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Hey guys, just wanted to throw out what I have found re: reasonable battery life.
As most of you know, you can tell when the phone is not getting what I consider reasonable battery life.
Here are the things that I found worth doing:
1: Greenify apps if you can. Unfortunately, Facebook is one of the worst violators of battery and if you greenify it, you will go a long way towards having decent battery life. Of course, then you don't get your Facebook notifications, but for me, this is a plus.
2: Battery Doctor. You can set it to kill apps when the screen is off. There is a whitelist as well so you can keep certain apps running instead being killed.
3: Adjust the auto brightness curve. This seems to work well. Keep the screen reasonably bright but no more than necessary. I think this might work better than just a fixed brightness level because if the area gets really bright, at least the screen will react and become brighter so you can still see the screen. To me, the screen is a battery killer.
4: If you have a super AMOLED display supposedly you can black out the screen with a dark UI. Not sure how much this helps.
5: Custom Kernel. I have only tried IceCode and insanity. Both were giving reasonable battery life. I tried the lower voltage tables in IceCode but didn't notice much difference.
For me, even though I tried several different ROMs, if I did the above, I got reasonable standby/sleep times. It was usually 1 to 1.5 percent per hour in sleep. When the screen was on, battery life was totally dependent on screen brightness. For me, reasonable is with decent use - check/reply to mail a few times an hour, browse web, text, talk abut an hour a day, etc... from 7a-3p and still have around 70% left. For me, the phone still needs charging every day though. Any other tips???
For Facebook, I use the Tinfoil For Facebook app, which is pretty much just a wrapper of the mobile browser version. Beside the battery drain the official app causes, the privacy concerns with the addition of them listening in on your mic makes this worth it.
Hi all. Can anyone please suggest which Rom & kernel combination gives best battery life for Ville c2 . Main use is web browsing on mobile data & some casual gaming.
I recently got this device and am new to this (c2) forum.
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I use the "Snapdragon BatteryGuru" application.
A feature I love is that I can set what apps have to be updated ever, when I use them or basing on my use. For example I installed Facebook, Twitter, a mail client and Skype on my phone. I can choose that the mail client has to be updated ever, Facebook and Twitter basing on my use, and Skype when I use it.
BatteryGuru can enable some features like the Wi-Fi or the Mobile data basing on my use. For example, I surf the internet between 8:00 AM and 3:00 PM. The Snapdragon's application registers this activity and it will automatically enable internet connection between 8:00 AM and 3:00 PM.
Another feature I like is that I can enable a low power mode when the battery reaches a choosen level and disable, for example, the mobile data, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, apps update, etc.
Awesome app!
I saw that app. Will need to check it out. Sounds like useful features.
Thanks! I'll try Greenify with Facebook.
I'm quite satisfied with the AOSPA 4+ ROM (stock kernel). I unplug the phone at 9am and around 10pm - 56% battery remaining (with Greenify + Auto brightness + Dark UI theme) with normal usage like browsing/checking emails/phone calls every now and then.
Let us not imagine a smartphone without battery. Battery is most important part of a smartphone. There is a few cause to drain battery quickly. Like as big LCD display and luscious AMOLED display, and background apps obviously drain your battery quickly. You can do something to make battery for last longer. Let’s see that how to increase battery on your android smartphone.
how save battery life
How android batteries work:
Have you heard that most smartphones have a lithium-polymer either or lithium-ion battery. Both of actually lithium-ion though, and as like, do not have a 'memory', which means that you can charge them from any level – you don't have to fully discharge it before charging it up – and you don't have to charge them all the way to 100 percent.
In fact, lithium-polymer either or lithium-ion types of batteries affected by low voltage problems, so it's actually better to partially charge it (say, from 20 percent to 90 percent) than to fully charge and fully drain tit. Just explore that is it work for you and you can easily increase battery on your Android smartphone.
how save battery life
Using du battery saver apps:
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Black wallpaper can increase battery:
If your phone has an AMOLED display (like as Samsung devices), use a dark-colored wallpaper for background . AMOLED screens only illuminate the colored pixels that’s why Black wallpaper can increase battery life. Black pixels are unlit, so that less power is needed to light them up.
Doze:
With the entrance of Marshmallow came a new feature called Doze, which is helps you get to reduce drain of your battery. , Doze is the most noticeable addition for android Marshmallow. It is allow default and typically permit your device to enter hibernation mode when it has been lock or unused for a long period of time.
Update your apps into latest version:
Keep update your apps with the latest version. The developers constantly update apps for battery and memory optimization. Keeping your apps updated also means you have the best optimizations available
Using Greenify apps:
There are many Android apps that claim that they optimize performance and increase battery life, Greenify is one of them and it’s actually works by preventing them from operating in the background. , which reduces their impact on the system Greenify stops this by sending those apps into hibernation and saving battery life while improving performance.
Reduce auto-brightness:
The screen is a biggest battery drainer. This is one of the best ways to increase your battery life to use auto-brightness manually to a level that is low but comfortable your eyes. And do not use display as auto-brightness mode.
Turn off vibrate and haptic feedback : For save battery turn-off your vibration alerts for incoming call, and turn-of your keyboard vibration and touchpad sound.
Use 'Do Not Disturb' or 'sleep' schedule :
when you are In a meeting , set your device to not ring, vibrate or connect to the internet when you are sleeping you can enable blocking mode to switch off Wi-Fi and mobile data when you don't need them.
For this purpose many phones have a Do Not Disturb setting.
For example you can use airplane mode.
Trun-off unnecessary service:
Whenever you don't need them turn off, Wi-Fi , GPS, Bluetooth, NFC and mobile data,Turning off location. It’s will increase battery on your Android smartphone.
Explore the battery saving features on your phone:
At first Find out the battery saving option in your smartphone and Trun on your bettery saving mode in your android smartphone when you are out of home and not use the phone.
Turn off auto-sync trap:
If you do not need google account update in every 30 minutes, tap into setting to turn-off google account turnoff auto sync and for these app you do not need update. For example email, Facebook, twitter, reddit Instagram etc. just sync when you actually use the app.
I miss something’s? What you have any idea about battery saving tips? Tell me about them in the comments.
I don't, and will never use gapps or any google's apps.
I am experiencing a high and crazy performance using ntfs as androed installation.
I will never burn my money in ext2/3/4 or any ext device.
I will never pay absurds for unrooted phones to rooting only to purge gapps and gogle apps or any other kind of damned apps that stays cooking battery.
My next device, needs be like this screenshot, with ntfs, rooteable, rom choices, or DEATH!
I hate androids.
This is why i preffer write Androed
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HEATING:
Heating while charging isn't an issue pls. You can let your phone cool down before charging it in a cool place. You can either power it off or put it on Airplane mode while charging. (This will reduce the charging time and also some activities by apps which slow the charging) Heating is normal while charging owing to the Quick Charge x.0 capability of Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 (MSM8952). It will heat up. Heating is reduced in the latest builds, especially while recording video via the camera. This semi-budget oriented processor isn't designed for heavy gaming pls, despite 3GB of DDR3 RAM available to it. If you're a hard core gamer or someone who likes to overclock stuff, this isn't the right phone.
If you feel your phone is heating with normal usage too, consider removing apps which are useless and clear the cache followed by a reboot. See to it that the apps are updated. You can switch to WiFi instead of Mobile Data (keeps my athene cool idk why). If nothing works, consider a factory reset; else shift to a custom ROM if you can and test.
PERFORMANCE:
General phone performance of Nougat has been better than Marshmallow for sure, but for many, 7.0 has had the notification drawer stuttering issue in some cases and Bluetooth being turned on automatically after turning Airplane mode ON. Overall experience is smooth. But many people do not like stock ROM very much, because of the lack of features. AOSP and LineageOS based ROMs are much better that stock in terms of speed. For god's sake don't use the task killer apps or battery savers like CCleaner / CleanMaster/ DU Battery Saver. Apps staying in the memory (RAM) are good for your device until your phone is lagging. Clearing the things from the recents panel will force them to start again from scratch, consuming the CPU and of course the battery.
BATTERY & CHARGING:
Stock N wasn't very good in terms of battery after all in comparison to MM despite the improved doze mode introduced in Nougat. Well this is the case in almost every android OEM that the battery performance went down in transition from one Android version to another. However, the March 1 update is said to fix a bit of battery and security issues. Android has the habit of collecting garbage (but that makes it smart too) and this can be one of the reasons why battery and performance issues occur after an OTA. The best thing after a "dirty/problem causing" update is to do a factory reset. Anyways, it is advised to clear the cache before and after doing an update. For god's sake don't use the task killer apps or battery savers like CCleaner / CleanMaster/ DU Battery Saver. Apps staying in the memory (RAM) are good for your device until your phone is lagging. Clearing the things from the recents panel will force them to start again from scratch, consuming the CPU and of course the battery.
Battery Saving and charging Tips:
Please understand the difference between Screen On time of a complete cycle and the usage time. People start judging the battery from the estimated time left after the first charge itself. A tip is to fully charge the battery after a clean flash and then let it drain till 15%. Do not let the battery drain completely, Li-ion batteries lose their capacity over time and are designed to run between 20-100 percent. Battery life of your phone is completely dependant on your usage. Turning off Auto-Rotation, WiFi, Bluetooth, Sync, Mobile Data, Location Services and scanning (almost everything ) when not needed can give you the best battery life possible. You can consider using Greenify although you should avoid any such thing. Android learns how you use it, no need to comment about the 2 H SOT you're getting after a clean flash. You might also want to uninstall the useless apps and block the wakelocks (which you understand) if possible. Turn off the SIM card if it's in very low network. If nothing is helping you, you might consider doing a factory reset too.
Checkout this amazing thread by @rirozizo and the video by XDA TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zt2j8lFbJQ
Ghost Touch: Your touchscreen is at fault. Visit the service center please.
Screen Retention: Your display is defective. Turning the phone off for a while and then setting blue light filter at 5% for Black colour or changing the RGB values is a temporary fix. Visit the service center please.
Random Reboots: Try factory resetting your device, see if you installed something wrong and flash latest stock firmware, just in case, you know. Else the service center only can fix the issue if still present.
For not being called a noob:
1. Read XDA and other forums and think before you do anything to your phone.
2. Ask in the community if you have doubts. (Read Rules and XDA University's New User's guide first)
3. Always make backups before flashing new things. (Use TitaniumBackup and TWRP backups)
Check the videos by XDA-TV and Rootjunky ( @Tomsgt )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEsgCrvEqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyr3FstDKH0&index=1&list=PLgLZvFga2ml4Atl32E4c_ZslfrTJJDUfr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-i59R51Cys
4. See this video by XDA-TV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
5. Stop using useless apps and be patient pls.
Valar Morghulis!
Good thread, I'll add a couple of my tips here.
- ohmergerd, there's thousands of ROMs for the G4! Which ones are the best???? Nearly every single ROM for the G4 subtracting perhaps GZR ROMs and RevivorOS/optimized stock is LineageOS based (Invicta is basically Lineage with MM kernel blobs and faux/OMS integrated). There's basically no performance differences, just feature differences based on the discretion of the dev.
- If heating is STILL an issue for you, disable the 4 big cores. There isn't a significant difference in everyday use- the LITTLE cluster handles the UI and basic apps anyway.
- Haven't noticed notification bar lag since the 7.1.2 builds. If you have lag (depending on your ROM), using blur or transparency helps trick your eyes into seeing no lag. If lag persists, force enable scrolling cache and speed up the animations.
- If you have a custom kernel and your RAM usage isn't an issue, disable KSM, Adaptive Memory Killer, and/or ZRAM and Kernel Adiutor/EXKM. While useful if you let your memory use skyrocket, if you are conservative in your memory use these memory killers just suck up CPU cycles.
- Build prop tweaks/L Speed/HEBF don't work. Completely placebo, except for governor tweaks.
- USB-OTG is great, I recommend getting a dongle if you're a flashaholic. Much easier and quicker to simply plug in your USB to flash instead of plugging in your phone, transferring the ROM, flashing, etc.
- Use a trickle charger, and save that fast charger for emergencies (camping, flights, etc.).
- Disable a bunch of Google's **** in settings- I advise going through Activity controls as Google takes snippets of keyboard input, voice, web history, video history, etc. This adversely affects battery life especially if you have a weak signal, as Google Play Services continuously attempts to push through their telemetry data. This is also why you get 2hrs of SoT after a clean flash.
- On stock-based ROMs (to eliminate lag), boot the ROM once, then reboot to recovery and flash the latest Aroma GApps package with the apps you want. Then, mount /system, and start deleting all apps in /system/app or /system/priv-app that begin with "3c". This effectively removes Motorola updates and telemetry, and also updates your GApps- the stock GApps are very old, and updating them caused Play Store errors and miscellaneous battery sucking services.
- Mr. Shield Protectors suck. Badly cut-out, misaligned, etc.
Hard reset: A term with the common misconception here in the group. Hard reset means nothing in android smartphones. It is only a term for older computers where you manually had to reset the old electrical parts from the charge they held.
Factory reset via the settings is equivalent to the Wipe Data/Factory reset available in the stock recovery.
Also, always sign out from your Google account before doing the wipe, else chances are your device may enable Factory Reset Protection and lock the device.
Normally my phone was using two BIG cores (and the four LITTLE ones). Each core was utilized around 40-60%.
Withing kernel manager I have set the minimum value for the BIG cores to 1 and I have lowered the minimum frequency value for that core. Now the utilization on that core is close to 100%.
Now the phone is cold all the time (except when charging with the Fast Charger) and I have no lag issues whatsoever.
Oh, btw, on some kernels (EX 1.07, Vegito), workqueue power saving is built in which iirc tries to schedule tasks on the fewest cores as possible, so on these kernels which tend to turn off cores and lower frequencies while asleep the wakeup action, especially while dozing, the wakeup action will be met with significant lag/delay.
If you have a delay when turning on your phone with these kernels (or even stock kernels for some ROMs), disable the setting called wq_power_saving.
I have the solution for random reboots. But only for those devices that reboots 4 or 5 times every day. Just open your device and disconnect the battery for 30 minits. Or also you can change the battery (confirmated it works)
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Good thread, I'll add a couple of my tips here.
- ohmergerd, there's thousands of ROMs for the G4! Which ones are the best???? Nearly every single ROM for the G4 subtracting perhaps GZR ROMs and RevivorOS/optimized stock is LineageOS based (Invicta is basically Lineage with MM kernel blobs and faux/OMS integrated). There's basically no performance differences, just feature differences based on the discretion of the dev.
- If heating is STILL an issue for you, disable the 4 big cores. There isn't a significant difference in everyday use- the LITTLE cluster handles the UI and basic apps anyway.
- Haven't noticed notification bar lag since the 7.1.2 builds. If you have lag (depending on your ROM), using blur or transparency helps trick your eyes into seeing no lag. If lag persists, force enable scrolling cache and speed up the animations.
- If you have a custom kernel and your RAM usage isn't an issue, disable KSM, Adaptive Memory Killer, and/or ZRAM and Kernel Adiutor/EXKM. While useful if you let your memory use skyrocket, if you are conservative in your memory use these memory killers just suck up CPU cycles.
- Build prop tweaks/L Speed/HEBF don't work. Completely placebo, except for governor tweaks.
- USB-OTG is great, I recommend getting a dongle if you're a flashaholic. Much easier and quicker to simply plug in your USB to flash instead of plugging in your phone, transferring the ROM, flashing, etc.
- Use a trickle charger, and save that fast charger for emergencies (camping, flights, etc.).
- Disable a bunch of Google's **** in settings- I advise going through Activity controls as Google takes snippets of keyboard input, voice, web history, video history, etc. This adversely affects battery life especially if you have a weak signal, as Google Play Services continuously attempts to push through their telemetry data. This is also why you get 2hrs of SoT after a clean flash.
- On stock-based ROMs (to eliminate lag), boot the ROM once, then reboot to recovery and flash the latest Aroma GApps package with the apps you want. Then, mount /system, and start deleting all apps in /system/app or /system/priv-app that begin with "3c". This effectively removes Motorola updates and telemetry, and also updates your GApps- the stock GApps are very old, and updating them caused Play Store errors and miscellaneous battery sucking services.
- Mr. Shield Protectors suck. Badly cut-out, misaligned, etc.
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Thanks for the tips.
Using Root explorer I deleted the 3c stuff and updated the Gapps via Aroma installer (never knew this Aroma version existed).
Where do I find the Activity controls thing?
bluegrass55 said:
Thanks for the tips.
Using Root explorer I deleted the 3c stuff and updated the Gapps via Aroma installer (never knew this Aroma version existed).
Where do I find the Activity controls thing?
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It's in settings>Google, first 3 menus iirc.
i just had to unroot, re-lock my boot, and flash the latest firmware because someone has been hacking my phone. I purchased a Samsung phone and been switching the SIM between phones. I wish custom ROMs were more secure, flashing every ROM available, some took longer then others. After seeing that the Samsung KNOX wasnt able to be hacked, i decided to flash your stock N package. They are yet to get in my XT-1644 since earlier after the flash.
Am i stuck on the Stock ROM or is there a way to keep from getting a rooted with unlocked bootloader, hacked?
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Click the three dots in the top right and choose battery usage.
As for battery life, mine has improved greatly on Android P
NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie even if I didn't have any major problem with 8.1 either. Overnight drain 3-4%. After regular use after a full day I easily exceed 5h SOT. Everything stock with just Greenify in non root mode. I couldn't be happier, best Android release so far for me.
NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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I've had my p2 installed with PIE for about 2 days now. I suggest giving it a week (which is what I'm doing) and then getting a full overview of how my battery is performing. Usually, after any major OS updates, being that apps are trying to utilize your resources and a new version of Android would try to allocate and learn your usage (in this case battery), you'd get a much better definitive idea of your overall performance.
I also think that since its now available, turn on Adaptive Battery mode. After a day of upgrading the OS, Adaptive battery at my 26 hr mark of upgrade said that one of my apps was taking in a lot of resources to be used in the background (ES File Explorer). I made AB to stop ES from taking battery resources.
So in conclusion, if it a week and then you'll be able to get a better overall understanding of whether your battery REALLY has gotten worse or better.
Hope this helps!
Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
Exact same problem here after updating. Even tried a factory reset in case it was an updating issue. Same problem. My battery is currently at 43% 4 hours after a full charge. And I've barely used it. This is really poor.
No new apps installed.
My Oreo battery life was great. I'll try shutting off adaptive battery as suggested - but seems a real shame if one of the flagship battery saving features is doing the total opposite on Google's current flagship phone!
Doesn't seem to be a massively common issue so not sure if a likelihood of a patch either
Just a quick update - Google play services has now become the biggest drain on my battery, just as it was before I factory reset after the first install...
Anyone else had the same?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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I had the same issue and did the same thing... until dp3 and my battery usage was terrible again even with adaptive battery turned off. I ended up turning it on again and after about a week my battery usage was back where it was before. So there doesn't seem to be a magic bullet here. FWIW app usage offered no insight as to what was causing the drain in the first place.
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Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie
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THIS.
I got like 8+ hours of SOT.... no mobile network though, all day wifi use only.
I have this issue. Dropped about 40% over night. I found that turning wifi off stopped the drain completely. I did not have this problem with Oreo at all so it's not the networks im connecting to. Weird thing is this did not happen when I first installed Pie. This started happening about 3 days into installing. Also, I put it in safe mode and saw the same drain with wifi on vs off.
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
I've gone from draining 8-10% an hour (screen off) to around 2.5%/hour and from 1hr 35 total SOT to 3hrs 39 minutes with 32% left (and an hour of that was Google maps navigating, so a proper work out for the phone).
Do give it a try and let me know if it works for you.
Although there's room for improvement (idle 2.5%/h seems high to me!) and it's ludicrous that I should have spent several hours finding a fix for this on 100% stock android, I'm very happy to have a usable battery life back again...
Adam.
UPDATE: Seems like in the night I lost 40% again. Idle drain climbed it's way up to 5.6% in the night. Still an improvement from where it was before, but not quite as good as it first appeared...
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
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Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
Burkules said:
So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Nothing to lose by trying. And as I said, Greenify makes it easy/quick to do. Force closing is almost as good as uninstalling those apps as the vast majority of installed apps won't restart or run in background until you use them for the first time again. In my experience, quiescent battery consumption (e.g. noticed over night):
Is vastly affected negatively by poor cellular signal strength. Marginal coverage can really drain the battery fast.
Gradually gets worse between reboots
Can be improved (once it degrades) if you force close all the apps you've installed, and swipe away the background apps just before you go to bed!
If quiescent consumption suddenly rises I can normally fix it by force closing all the apps (not being sure which was the one gone rogue/suddenly misbehaving)
At night I generally have excellent cellular coverage, good WiFi, and Bluetooth is off. NFC is always off
I don't enable sync on 2 of the 3 Gmail accounts I have configured
I disable notifications from any apps I don't actually need them from
Quiescent battery consumption is between, say, 0.4% and, 0.7%/hr at home, around 2 to 3%/hr when out and about which I put down to all background data being driven over 4G instead of Wifi, and variable cellular coverage
I've not noticed quiescent battery consumption change between Oreo and Pie, but this may be because I keep force closing apps at night and not giving adaptive battery (which I have on) a chance to have the same effect intelligently
Turning off app preview messages has made no practical different for me
I'm completely stock (stock launcher, not rooted, etc.)
If you can't fix it, at least a factory reset as the next experiment has the option to restore *most* of what was there before (so long as you have had the backup setting enabled). But because not everything is restored it's still a pain. And if that doesn't work it's another factory reset and test and then restore everything manually and gradually :-S. But I think you already tried that?
Burkules said:
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
Thanks, just tried that as well and my battery has stayed resolutely at 68% on idle beside me for the last few hours, previously it had gone from 100% down to 69% in about 4 hours whilst similarly doing nothing.
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I recently bought an S10e. Lots of improvements over my S7 - but I'm finding Android 10 to be very unstable. About once a day it gets into a mode where apps keep crashing and reopening.
I have turned off all the power management features I can find, but this still happens. Rebooting fixes the problem for a while (i.e. a matter of hours through a day or so).
The phone is an SM-G970W with the 1 Feb 2020 update (G970WVLS3CTA3).
Has anyone else encountered this kind of problem?
- richard
I have the same build and model with the same security patch update for Feb 2020. No issues here just waiting on one UI 2.1 is all. It's a pretty rocking phone.
Cheers
@Blandhotauce - Thanks - you give me hope that I can resolve this! I have reset the phone and am installing apps from scratch, rather than use Smart Switch (as I did the first time around).
Do you use any apps that require special permissions, such as AccuBattery or GSam? I had both installed before, and I'm wondering whether that may have led to the instability.
- richard
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@Blandhotauce - Thanks - you give me hope that I can resolve this! I have reset the phone and am installing apps from scratch, rather than use Smart Switch (as I did the first time around).
Do you use any apps that require special permissions, such as AccuBattery or GSam? I had both installed before, and I'm wondering whether that may have led to the instability.
- richard
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No I didn't use any apps like that. I use that standard array of Google and Samsung apps. Messages, gallery, pretty vanilla stuff.
Not many third party apps so that could be a reason. I have, however, installed an IPTV APK.
@Blandhotauce - Do you have any of the battery saving features turned on, such as
- Adaptive power saving
- Adaptive battery
- Put unused apps to sleep
- Auto optimization
- Optimize settings
Thanks
- richard
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@Blandhotauce - Do you have any of the battery saving features turned on, such as
- Adaptive power saving
- Adaptive battery
- Put unused apps to sleep
- Auto optimization
- Optimize settings
Thanks
- richard
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Under battery in device care I have power mode set to optimize. But adaptive power saving is not on.
Under app power management right below the power mode option I have both the adaptive battery option and put unused apps to sleep selected on.
That's pretty much it. I have a young family so that keeps me busy. I wouldnt say I'm a power user or anything like that but I watch YouTube and read a ton of articles and respond to emails throughout the day. I also make use of WhatsApp and Google duo video calls during this period of self isolation.
With that said, I get pretty much a full day of use out of it. By the time the kids are in bed and I'm ready to call it a day I'm at around 20- 30 percent.
Is the phone perfect? No, but I like the smallish form factor with the really decent specs. I expect to use this device for at least another 3 years. I've even prepared to replace the battery when it starts to become sluggish. There's helpful YouTube videos on what tools and methods are required for a battery replacement. Just can't find a modern phone in this form factor anymore.
Cheers