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MFD display in VW-group cars

Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
Regards
Kurt Lund

Kurt Lund said:
Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
Regards
Kurt Lund
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do you see anything on the MFD when using the original Bolero/Columbus/Amundsen?
If yes, then you don't need VCDS coding, the canbus adapter and MCU should do the job. I didn't try it on mine, i will do so later today and post results.
...and latest Malaysk is 11.5, not 4.0 btw

zerozoneice said:
do you see anything on the MFD when using the original Bolero/Columbus/Amundsen?
If yes, then you don't need VCDS coding, the canbus adapter and MCU should do the job. I didn't try it on mine, i will do so later today and post results.
...and latest Malaysk is 11.5, not 4.0 btw
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I never had an original radio which was able to send information to the display. I tried various setiings in VCDS to see if I could enable something, but to no avail. Thank you in advance for looking.
Regards
Kurt Lund
BTW: The latest ROM for MTCD HU with PX5 processor from Malaysk is 4.0. 11.5 is for older type of HU.

Kurt Lund said:
Question for VW, Skoda and Seat owners: Is there anybody here who is able to get their MTCD unit to show things like radio station frequencies on the build in MFD display? I have a Skoda Yeti (technically similar to Golf VI) and I am not able to make my MTCD unit with Malaysk 4.0 show these things on the MFD. Previously I had a Ownice C500 and that unit was actually able to show a compass on the MFD. I have seen pictures on an russian forum from a guy who could see radio frequncies on his Seat MFD (I think it was from a MTCB unit) . I am looking for a hint as to what settings I need to change in the ECU with my VCDS equipment. Thank you in advance.
Regards
Kurt Lund
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I have a SEAT Leon and a MTCD PX5. It only shows the radio station, but not the RDS info. If I use the music app or the bluetooth app the MFD only shows the number of the song but not the tags (name, artist, etc.) As I understand, it is something with the canbus.

Kurt Lund said:
I never had an original radio which was able to send information to the display. I tried various setiings in VCDS to see if I could enable something, but to no avail. Thank you in advance for looking.
Regards
Kurt Lund
BTW: The latest ROM for MTCD HU with PX5 processor from Malaysk is 4.0. 11.5 is for older type of HU.
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a, ok i assumed u had a PX3

I have a 2010 GTI. Replaced the original radio with an MTCD.
Previously, my MFD would show compass direction (N, NE, E, SE, ect) next to the clock and I would also have a radio station section. After installing the MTCD, the compass would turn on, set to North, correct to the actual direction, then turn off again. It was a continuous 5 second cycle of this. I asked around on other forums and finally found that it just wouldn't work. One person just pulled out the compass unit. That's what I ended up doing. It doesn't bother me to not have it there if I'm just going to have navigation on my HU anyway.
For the radio, honestly, I never used the function on the MFD. It was easier to just cycle the presets using the steering wheel controls or pressing the button on the HU instead of changing to the radio function and scrolling through the list.

Troggie81 said:
I have a 2010 GTI. Replaced the original radio with an MTCD.
Previously, my MFD would show compass direction (N, NE, E, SE, ect) next to the clock and I would also have a radio station section. After installing the MTCD, the compass would turn on, set to North, correct to the actual direction, then turn off again. It was a continuous 5 second cycle of this. I asked around on other forums and finally found that it just wouldn't work. One person just pulled out the compass unit. That's what I ended up doing. It doesn't bother me to not have it there if I'm just going to have navigation on my HU anyway.
For the radio, honestly, I never used the function on the MFD. It was easier to just cycle the presets using the steering wheel controls or pressing the button on the HU instead of changing to the radio function and scrolling through the list.
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I agree it is not the worlds most important function, but it irritates me that I cant get it to work anyway. Your GTI from 2010 has exactely the same ECU as my Skoda as far as I know so it ought to work.
What do you mean by "just pulled out the compass unit"? Physically took something out?
Regards
Kurt Lund

Kurt Lund said:
I agree it is not the worlds most important function, but it irritates me that I cant get it to work anyway. Your GTI from 2010 has exactely the same ECU as my Skoda as far as I know so it ought to work.
What do you mean by "just pulled out the compass unit"? Physically took something out?
Regards
Kurt Lund
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Seems like there are always going to be little things you have to ignore when you go with non OEM electronics. I'm pretty picky about stuff, but I can let the radio go.
Yep, the compass module in my car is in the rear headliner. Just Googled it and found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw1T7oqiQsw

@Kurt Lund i checked on mine and in the "audio" menu it shows the FM frequency of the station playing (when in radio mode) and track# and mm:ss (when in default built-in music player mode). If i use poweramp it shows just "Video" input on the MFD, no track or counter info. I don't see a compass on the MFD since i didn't have an OEM navigation setup beforehand.

zerozoneice said:
@Kurt Lund i checked on mine and in the "audio" menu it shows the FM frequency of the station playing (when in radio mode) and track# and mm:ss (when in default built-in music player mode). If i use poweramp it shows just "Video" input on the MFD, no track or counter info. I don't see a compass on the MFD since i didn't have an OEM navigation setup beforehand.
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The compass on mine always showed up as just letters next to the time. So, the very top would have something like "NE 5:34" or "S 6:20". There was also a calibration option in the MFD setup menu. Selecting calibration would require you to drive in a circle. I also didn't have a factory nav unit.

Is there a fix to this yet ? I installed a MTCD unit on my vw touran 2006 and at first (1-2 days) the MFD displayed Audio but no information.. that was not a problem since I could atlist use the buttons on the steering wheel to change the songs anyway.. but afther that the Audio from MFD dissapeared and the onky way I can change the songs are from the HU. (compas also dissapeared).

dirty_dty said:
Is there a fix to this yet ? I installed a MTCD unit on my vw touran 2006 and at first (1-2 days) the MFD displayed Audio but no information.. that was not a problem since I could atlist use the buttons on the steering wheel to change the songs anyway.. but afther that the Audio from MFD dissapeared and the onky way I can change the songs are from the HU. (compas also dissapeared).
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anyone got a fix for this. i just got some zeroes in 2013 t5 when using dab or bluetooth audio.

If anyone is wondering, we can display on MFD using CanBus.
We can find adresses to write on internet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eirT8LbSRl4j06BpwgsiE4PM_2BGH9UStdWLXwKvHJw
If someone is able to take info from android and send them through canbus you should display everything as original.
Here is a MFD compatible Head unit: http://m.cardvdstereos.com/android-8-0-car-dvd-player-vw-mqb-universal
If you ask for firmware of these unit you should maybe able to look how it works.

I looked at this. I had a windows CE head unit and that could display the MFD compass heading, so I know it should be possible with a non-VAG head unit. Looking at VCDS information it seems that compass information can be put onto canbus by either the head unit or a compass module. Cars without a VAG satnav such as the Columbus, would have a compass module instead, usually fitted in the top of the tailgate/boot/trunk.
So theoretically if you want the MFD compass and your MTCE head unit isn't putting the data on the canbus you could install a VAG compass module to do this. It would require VCDS coding to setup though; to register the compass module.
From what I've read it doesn't seem as if any MTCE head units put this compass data on the canbus; though there seems no reason why they shouldn't be able to do this. I would guess that it wouldn't even need a firmware mod, but could be managed in software.

UnReal' said:
If anyone is wondering, we can display on MFD using CanBus.
We can find adresses to write on internet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eirT8LbSRl4j06BpwgsiE4PM_2BGH9UStdWLXwKvHJw
If someone is able to take info from android and send them through canbus you should display everything as original.
Here is a MFD compatible Head unit: http://m.cardvdstereos.com/android-8-0-car-dvd-player-vw-mqb-universal
If you ask for firmware of these unit you should maybe able to look how it works.
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Interesting links! I'm really looking for something like this as well, but not with Android 8.1
I'm wondering how they've implemented this in the software. Is it like a driver for a system app or just a normal app?
I'm a developer myself and I feel like I can add this myself. I'm not sure though if I can just send whatever data I want over canbus via Android? Would be great to write some software for all of the VAG users here that have an Android unit so their MFD are fully working again.
I'm thinking of: Fully working navigation with the compass and the instructions, full working media display (FM, DAB, BT).

Bose321 said:
I'm thinking of: Fully working navigation with the compass and the instructions, full working media display (FM, DAB, BT).
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That would be GREAT! I'm not a developer and an app like this would be awesome for me!
When I switched to Andorid unit instead of original unit, I completely lost any info from my unit to MFD: radio, compass, navigation, etc.

I unfortunately no longer have an Android unit in my car, so I would first have to find something for that and start programming on it. Is there any other interest in starting a project like this?

ISDB-T Digital TV tuner Controllable via Headunit Touchscreen?

Any suggestion?
I have Px5 MTCE headunit from Klyde.
Thanks everyone.

almost same question as above. PX5 MTCE Dasaita 10.2 with ISDB -T, the factory tv tuner but not working in my area. i am swapping it with another tuner (working) with the automotive multi pin connector for the power, composite video signal and the UART tx/rx signals. anyone knows the "nuts and bolts" for the protocol?

tagar said:
almost same question as above. PX5 MTCE Dasaita 10.2 with ISDB -T, the factory tv tuner but not working in my area. i am swapping it with another tuner (working) with the automotive multi pin connector for the power, composite video signal and the UART tx/rx signals. anyone knows the "nuts and bolts" for the protocol?
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What's your Country's DTV standard?
Your factory TV Tuner is built-in or external? Thanks.

tribalfs said:
What's your Country's DTV standard?
Your factory TV Tuner is built-in or external? Thanks.
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it is ISDB-T for south america, japan, philipines etc. the dasaita tv tuner (external) is for japan market with mini B CAS which i think is the reason it will not pick up the signal. i purchased another tuner that works ( same standard ) and i can tap to the composite video signals for signal display without problem. however, the HU commands to scan/change channels of course does not work even with correct tx/rx pairing of the wires between HU and tuner. someone here had hacked this before?

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/c2UwNoZi
Will this work (touchscreen control) with my Klyde PX5 MTCE headunit?
Can't find Klyde branded one.
Any idea? Thanks

tribalfs said:
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/c2UwNoZi
Will this work (touchscreen control) with my Klyde PX5 MTCE headunit?
Can't find Klyde branded one.
Any idea? Thanks
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Don't think they make their own. Most if not all hu manufacturers buy from the vendors and slap on their company logos
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk

SilentO said:
Don't think they make their own. Most if not all hu manufacturers buy from the vendors and slap on their company logos
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
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So will it work or not?

Dasaita MCU with DSP: Bluetooth not working

I have a one year old 7" Dasaita PX5 4GB RAM, Android 8, which performs flawlessly. Even the Blootooth and MIC volume level issue was solved in this unit, it has configured Bluetooth WD-BC6.
I wanted to upgrade to DSP, so instead of removing componentes and soldering wires , I just bought in Ali Express Dasaita Official Store the Dasaita MCU board with DSP:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32965198383.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6de363c0vGoD1p
After installation on new MCU board, everything is working fine, except Bluetooth, which is not working, if I go to FACTORY SETTINGS, (Password 126) I can select different Bluetooth Adapters, like: MD725, WQ_BC5, WQ_BC6, WQ_BC8, Parrot_FC6000T, SD-968, SD-BC6, SD-GT936, IVT-i145, SD-8350
But after trying several of them, Bluetooth is still not working. Dues anybody know which one I should select.

etulio said:
I have a one year old 7" Dasaita PX5 4GB RAM, Android 8, which performs flawlessly. Even the Blootooth and MIC volume level issue was solved in this unit, it has configured Bluetooth WD-BC6.
I wanted to upgrade to DSP, so instead of removing componentes and soldering wires , I just bought in Ali Express Dasaita Official Store the Dasaita MCU board with DSP:
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32965198383.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6de363c0vGoD1p
After installation on new MCU board, everything is working fine, except Bluetooth, which is not working, if I go to FACTORY SETTINGS, (Password 126) I can select different Bluetooth Adapters, like: MD725, WQ_BC5, WQ_BC6, WQ_BC8, Parrot_FC6000T, SD-968, SD-BC6, SD-GT936, IVT-i145, SD-8350
But after trying several of them, Bluetooth is still not working. Dues anybody know which one I should select.
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what BT module does your new unit have?

I did not check the Bluetooth module and I mounted the unit in the car. I took pictures of the board, but they do not show the BT model. So to check it physically I would have to disassembly again. To save this step, I was asking here just in case somebody has this MCU and knows the anser. But looks like I'll have to dissassembly.

Finally, I removed the new unit to check the BT, and it ios as follows:
The BT card in the "old" (one year old) board is:
Silk Marks in the back of the PCB: GOC-MD-705D
Paper label on top of QFP IC (Probably FW version and date) = A5BC6 1907
To have it working I selected in HU Factory Settings : WQ_BC6
The BT in the new MCU with DSP is smaller (shorter) and marks are:
Silk Marks in the back of the PCB: GOC-RF210 2019.04.27
There are no FW labels in the ICs on Top side of the PCB
What do I have to select to have it working?
In Factory configuration, the available BT optios are:
MD725
WQ_BC5
WQ_BC6
WQ_BC8
Parrot_FC6000T
SD-968
SD-BC6
SD-GT936
IVT-i145
SD-8350
I am attaching pictures of Old and New BT boards.
MCU has the latest FW 3.37, but PX5 has Android 8.0 one year old.

etulio said:
Finally, I removed the new unit to check the BT, and it ios as follows:
The BT card in the "old" (one year old) board is:
Silk Marks in the back of the PCB: GOC-MD-705D
Paper label on top of QFP IC (Probably FW version and date) = A5BC6 1907
To have it working I selected in HU Factory Settings : WQ_BC6
The BT in the new MCU with DSP is smaller (shorter) and marks are:
Silk Marks in the back of the PCB: GOC-RF210 2019.04.27
There are no FW labels in the ICs on Top side of the PCB
What do I have to select to have it working?
In Factory configuration, the available BT optios are:
MD725
WQ_BC5
WQ_BC6
WQ_BC8
Parrot_FC6000T
SD-968
SD-BC6
SD-GT936
IVT-i145
SD-8350
I am attaching pictures of Old and New BT boards.
MCU has the latest FW 3.37, but PX5 has Android 8.0 one year old.
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Good post, an example of what information to post. Also good /must to know MCU version and that you have upgraded it to the latest available.
Unfortunately I still dont know what BT module you have - it might be a new model or compatible with one of the others lists, or it might require new firmware. Have you tried cycling through all of the MCU BT options, restarting in between? Also try reviewing logcats for BT detected type.

Hi, thank you for your help.
MCU PCB is the latest one: HA-D6100-MAIN VER 0.1 20190701, that integrates a DSP board. MCU FW version is the latest one from Dasaita, MCU 3.37. I tried cycling all MCU BT options with restarting in between, but without success. I do not know how to check Android BT logs.
I purchased this MCU PCB in Aliexpress Dasaita Official Store and I send messages asking for support, but I got no answer. I had to open a dispute to get an answer from Dasaita, now they say that they will send a new BT module, but if the real problem is the lack of support by MCU FW, this new module will not fix the issue.
BT Module and MCU PCB are very new, so probably they will release soon a new MCU FW that will support it, but the Dasaita support

Still not working

etulio said:
Still not working
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Hello. I had a similar problem. Today I solved it. With the help of seller Dasaita on Aliexpress, I found out that the motherboard has a fresh Bluetooth chip installed. As the seller says installed RF210 Bluetooth 5.0 chip, which is not supported by Android 8. Therefore, all you need to do is install Recovery Android 9, then the firmware with Android 9, and then in the Factory Setting, in the Bluetooth settings on the first tab, select RF210 (it will be added to the list, on Android 8 it simply does not exist). That's all. Everything worked for me. The sound is better than it was on the old Bluetooth chip.

555sssaaa said:
Hello. I had a similar problem. Today I solved it. With the help of seller Dasaita on Aliexpress, I found out that the motherboard has a fresh Bluetooth chip installed. As the seller says installed RF210 Bluetooth 5.0 chip, which is not supported by Android 8. Therefore, all you need to do is install Recovery Android 9, then the firmware with Android 9, and then in the Factory Setting, in the Bluetooth settings on the first tab, select RF210 (it will be added to the list, on Android 8 it simply does not exist). That's all. Everything worked for me. The sound is better than it was on the old Bluetooth chip.
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Thanks for taking the time, your explanation solves the puzzle. Good to know they finally have an updated BT option, wonder if they improved the code/drivers.

I will add links. I installed Recovery and Android 9 according to the instructions Hal9k. Hal9k, thank you very much!
Link to his Mod - h t t p://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=973606&st=0#entry91199154
Link to Recovery for Android 9 - h t t p://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=883219&st=24080#entry84508631
The link to the instructions for installing Recovery - h t t p://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=891403&st=540#Spoil-77218289-3
Probably on this forum there is a description of the upgrade from Android 8 to Android 9. But I rarely come here. I just saw a problem similar to mine and want to share its solution. I hope this helps someone.

Hello,
I have the PX6 (Adroid 9) with the RF210 BT module, but it doesn't work at all. I've installed the latest MCU and the one before that (MCU 3.45 then MCU 3.53).
I also installed the latest firmware update (20200521). In the end I also installed Hal9k mod, and it still doesn't work.
Does your BT work?

RupOase said:
Hello,
I have the PX6 (Adroid 9) with the RF210 BT module, but it doesn't work at all. I've installed the latest MCU and the one before that (MCU 3.45 then MCU 3.53).
I also installed the latest firmware update (20200521). In the end I also installed Hal9k mod, and it still doesn't work.
Does your BT work?
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No, it did not work. But I did not try to install Android 9, mine was at Android 8.

SD-BC6
Hi,
I have tried all the BT setting and for me finally working SD-BC6 (PX5 with Android 9 Malaysk mod) . Finally means that my mobile can connect and working and ODB2 module can connect and working. All others setting worked only for mobile or only for ODB2 or not worked at all.

MTCE and BLE modules compatibilty

Hi, I really need my PX5 to support Bluetooth low energy (version 4.0 minimum) so I could receive gps beacons, which use the protocol. Looking at the factory menu in my unit i can see that i have BC5 bluetooth module which is version 2.1 only. Other types i can select are MD725, BC6, BC8, FC6000T and SD-968. From what i managed to figure out, only MD725 and BC8 have the 4.0 protocol, however i can't manage to find module that supports them and fits the module slot in my unit. I did actually find the following item:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32974934318.html
It sates both BC8 and I145, which I understand is another module supported bu some units, but not mine. Could someone maybe confirm this one works under BC8 setting? Alternatively, any way to update the bluetooth support in my units to have I145, other than MCU update? because I can't find one for my unit (MTCE_HZA).
Thanks for any help!

Question PX5 Android 9 replacement no sound

Hello. I fixed the damaged radio by replacing the PX5 module. The radio has started working, however the sound is only from the radio and bluetooth. No sound from USB, internet, navigation - displaying correct. I don't have an amplifier in my car. The radio comes with a CANBUS but I have a version of the car without CANBUS. Could this cause a problem with the sound? Please help.

You are in the wrong Forum. This is for FYT Head Units and you have an MTCD Head Unit. There is a forum for that where you will find the right people.
But anyway, did your unit used to have a PX5 and you replaced it by another PX5? Audio selection and processing happens a the Motherboard (the MTCD). There, the chip in charge of Sound source selection and processing selects from Bluetooth Chip, Radio Chip, and the PX5 (that generates any App-sourced sound like Navigation and MP3 playing). For some reason either the motherboard does not like your PX5 (faulty?) or there is some misconfiguration at the Android Level and PX5 is not reproducing sounds.
Have you changed anything on the Factory Settings?
But definitely your problem is not at the Canbus, but either at Android Config, PX5, or how the MTCD is communicating with the PX5

Thank you very much for the information, I'm new here so I'm still lost. I will move the topic to the appropriate forum. Thank you.

Hi, post system info, mcu version.

MCU version CSN2_D_1152020_114103
Android 9

bogsie said:
MCU version CSN2_D_1152020_114103
Android 9
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It's not an MTCD unit, search forums for CSN2