I have a Pixel 3 and just bought two USB 3 cables (type A to type C) from Amazon Warehouse Deals. After receiving them I tested them with my Pixel 3. Weirdly, the first one would only connect in USB 2/High Speed mode. Until I inserted the USB-C plug the other way around in my Pixel. Suddenly it was connected with Super Speed/USB 3. What?
On my wife's Pixel 3a the orientation does not matter, it is always only USB 2 (but I think that is one of the points where the 3a has lower specs than the 3).
So I tried some other devices. I have any Icy Box IB-CR401-C3 USB-C card reader. It is only recognized in one orientation in my Pixel 3. On the Pixel 3a, it works both ways.
I also tried the USB-C cable (both ends) that normally connects a Chromebook to my screen. While the orientation on the PC's UBC-C port does not seem to matter, it only connects with Super Speed in one orientation on the phone. Flip the connector 180°, and it is only USB 2. I am very confused.
I tried cleaning the phone's port from pocket lint, but as the connection does work (at USB 2.0 speed) and charging works fine as far as I can tell, I am not sure that is the issue anyway.
Has anyone else noticed this? You can check with USB Tree Viewer under Windows or under Linux with
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lsusb
to identify Bus and Device number and
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lsusb -t
to see the connection speed by Bus/Port/Device.
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I bought a couple of cheap generic USB cables, one a retractable micro USB job and the other a standard USB that splits to both a mini and micro USB at the other end.
Both cables charge my phone just fine, but the phone doesn't register either cable as a data connection and no notification comes up.
Is the micro USB cable that comes with the phone industry standard, and if so does this mean that my generic cables are likely to be just off spec enough in some way that the phone doesn't register them?
Strange thing is that the mini USB end of the split cable seem to work on other things like cameras and other phones. I'm confuzzled.
when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
i bought a mini to micro converter as I still have quite a few devices that need mini and thought I could save on convenience by just carrying round the adapter and plugging into existing computer cables and chargers I have around the house, car and work - Same thing with that power only, no data.
Got it from ebay some of the listings on there state "power only", still dont understand why, it cant be much more expensive to wire all 4 pins. As micro is becoming the standard.....
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when plugging in cable did you activate usb mount in the notification bar
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That's the problem, I plug the cable into the N1, but don't get a notification, no tone, nothing to suggest that the phone sees the cable as a data cable at all.
I'm guessing that if the phone doesn't think it is a data cable there is no way to persuade it otherwise.
There's essentially 2 types of cables: Charge-only or Sync & Charge. This is true for the adapters as well.
It seems you folks mistakenly bought the Charge-only cable/adapter.
After some research, I found this cable (it's blackberry branded, but works 100% with my N1 for Sync and Charge):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001UC9NOQ/ref=oss_product
It's cheap ($3 shipped), it's made by a trusted brand (Blackberry) and the actual cable is rather thickly insulated so it's durable too.
Read the user reviews, especially the guy with the high helpful votes count, for more details about charge-only and sync-n-charge cables.
Just tried both cables on a Nokia E623, and they both worked fine first time, charging and data.
Now it' looking like there is something slightly odd (or perfectly on spec) about the female Micro USB plug on the N1. Perhaps they are just made to only accept male plugs that exactly meet standard specs, and if a plug is out slightly in say it's contact positions or sizes the N1 won't detect it.
Anyone got any ideas?
I am trying to charge my Nexus 6P while simultaneously casting a streaming video from a USB drive to a Chromecast using a USB keyboard and mouse (Basically a computer replacement scenario). I have purchased the Cynergy 3 Port Ethernet Hub USB C with USB C connector and everything works independently but I can not seem to get it to simultaneously charge and read the USB port data. When the hub is inserted into the Nexus 6P the phone asks me to choose between 5 USB scenarios (see attached picture). When I pick “Charging” the USB ports stop working and when I unplug the power supply and then plug it back in the phone defaults to “Power supply” and the phone does not charge but the USB ports work along with the items connected to them. So I wonder if simultaneous charging and data is possible with the USB C connector on the Nexus 6P? I have read elsewhere in this forum that it may not be allowed in the USB standard but can’t find any confirmation of this. Has anyone found a cable/hub that can do this or is this not possible due to the USB C connector limitation?
You might want to try something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delive...hromeBook/dp/B01D0WE99C/ref=pd_sim_sbs_107_1?
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You might want to try something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Delive...hromeBook/dp/B01D0WE99C/ref=pd_sim_sbs_107_1?
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Why tell him to waste money on something that isn't going to work? The 6P doesn't support USB PD so this isn't possible.
i think you need to do some mad hacks in the kernel to get otg and charging at once (i think they did it on the oneplus 1 and possibly on the 2nd gen n7 so maybe google those for what it needs to be done?) i tried various resistors to the sense pin on the micro usb z4 which ended up not working but i have no idea how the usb c is wired up. Good luck with it anyway
Ever since getting my Pixel 2, I've had trouble finding a USB Type A-to-C cable that works reliably for charging and/or data connections. Now the one that I've been using for Android Auto in my car seems not to work consistently, and I'm leaving on a trip in a week where I was really counting on using AA for navigation.
Can anyone recommend an Amazon-stocked cable that is known to be suitable for this purpose without any problems? Seems like a simple thing, but apparently not! I'd really like one that clicks in positively, as well as having the proper connections, wire gages, etc.
Can anyone help? TIA.
This works when connected to my pc and a charger but is not fast charging because fast charge only works on c-c cables.
Elzo 3A USB Type C Cable 6ft/180cm USB3.0 Fast Charging Quick Charge High Speed Data Transfer Nylon Braided Metal Housing Cable For LG, Nexus, MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nokia N1, Type-C Devices, Gray https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N7GA19V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1LMqBb3ABTS3E
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Cherrystone said:
This works when connected to my pc and a charger but is not fast charging because fast charge only works on c-c cables.
Elzo 3A USB Type C Cable 6ft/180cm USB3.0 Fast Charging Quick Charge High Speed Data Transfer Nylon Braided Metal Housing Cable For LG, Nexus, MacBook, ChromeBook Pixel, Nokia N1, Type-C Devices, Gray https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N7GA19V/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1LMqBb3ABTS3E
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Thanks. I found it on the US site and it looks good. Would be nice if it were a few feet shorter!
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rochrunner said:
Thanks. I found it on the US site and it looks good. Would be nice if it were a few feet shorter!
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Welcome. It is a nice sturdy cable.
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A slight drift in topic. But has anyone had experience with the newer wireless Android Auto head units? With the units themselves being new, and with only a handful of compatible phones out there, there's not much info on the interwebs yet.
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Thanks. I found it on the US site and it looks good. Would be nice if it were a few feet shorter!
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I use this one, the 3-feet version. It works fine, just the right length. It is a two-pack, so you can use one for your car and one for your PC.
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerL...bp_QL65&keywords=anker+usb+c+cable&psc=1&th=1
Here's what I use in my car. Haven't had any issues with it since I got it last year.
Nonda ZUS USB-A to USB-C
I've used several. Here's my current and is my favorite:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4OKUB8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is better than the Anker ones I've used and the iOrange ones (which seem to get loose quickly, and especially in the summer heat). All are better than the stock OEM one from my original Pixel
I've used these in my truck with a 6P and my Pioneer head unit:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076KC16B5/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Three lengths in one package, very sturdy cables, never had a connection issue.
Change USB settings to enable Android Auto
Hey everyone,
I just got Android Auto installed via my Mazda dealer on my Mazda Connect infotainment system. Using my Google Pixel 2 XL, it was working fine for two drives and then stopped out of nowhere. I thought it was the USB 2 to USB C cable. Ordered 3 cables, and they still weren't working. Then I lucked out when trying to clear my phone's system memory by finding the USB settings and now Android Auto is working just fine with my cords again. [Facepalm]. At least I have several backup cables now. The steps I took are below (if you have the correct cable):
1) Swipe down on Android to access "settings" cog [bottom right typically]
2) Type "memory" into the 'search settings' bar at the top.
3) Select "Memory - System > Developer options". . . It should be the first result after you've searched.
4) Scroll down to and select "Default USB Configuration" . . . Under the 'Networking' section.
5) Select "File Transfer"
Might have to reboot, but that was it for me! Hope this helps.
I bought a BlitzWolf BW-TC9 and I have absolutely zero issue. I had disconnect issues on my OnePlus X with every cable I tried. I was afraid that the situation will be the same with the Pixel 2, but no, it's fully stable. If you are in Europe you can give it a try.
I know that the one plus 8t has usb c 3.1 port but does it support video out ? And I’m not talking video out with those adapters that will make any phone have a display output , I’m talking about native display out from the phone using either a compliant usb c to usb c to a monitor that supports usb c or with hdmi like Samsung newer smartphones , thanks in advance
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I know that the one plus 8t has usb c 3.1 port but does it support video out ? And I’m not talking video out with those adapters that will make any phone have a display output , I’m talking about native display out from the phone using either a compliant usb c to usb c to a monitor that supports usb c or with hdmi like Samsung newer smartphones , thanks in advance
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I have never owned a usb-c monitor, but my laptop is one of those thin ones that doesn't have many ports. and so a while ago I bought a cheap dongle off of amazon that is basically a usb-c hub with hdmi, usb-a and a charging usb-c passthrough, and this works perfectly with the oneplus 8t. The only issue I have is that the tall screen mirroring onto a 16:9 display means black bars on the top and bottom. My mate also has a direct usb-c to hdmi cable (basically has the dongle components built in to the cable ends), and this works fine too with my 8t, although a dongle is preferred so you can charge at the same time.
As I said, I don't have direct experience with a usb-c monitor, but logic follows that if the monitor supports usb-c video in, and the oneplus 8t supports video out over usb-c, then you should be away.
I believe there's an experimental desktop mode available too - go into developer options, scroll down to the apps subheading (nearly at the bottom) and there should be a Force Desktop Mode toggle. I tinkered once with it, and it reminded me a bit of Samsung's dex, but as I have a real laptop, I use that instead.
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I have never owned a usb-c monitor, but my laptop is one of those thin ones that doesn't have many ports. and so a while ago I bought a cheap dongle off of amazon that is basically a usb-c hub with hdmi, usb-a and a charging usb-c passthrough, and this works perfectly with the oneplus 8t. The only issue I have is that the tall screen mirroring onto a 16:9 display means black bars on the top and bottom. My mate also has a direct usb-c to hdmi cable (basically has the dongle components built in to the cable ends), and this works fine too with my 8t, although a dongle is preferred so you can charge at the same time.
As I said, I don't have direct experience with a usb-c monitor, but logic follows that if the monitor supports usb-c video in, and the oneplus 8t supports video out over usb-c, then you should be away.
I believe there's an experimental desktop mode available too - go into developer options, scroll down to the apps subheading (nearly at the bottom) and there should be a Force Desktop Mode toggle. I tinkered once with it, and it reminded me a bit of Samsung's dex, but as I have a real laptop, I use that instead.
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Thank you ! Is there a way to remove those black bars by creating a custom aspect ratio or resolution when the phone is rooted ? also what about the resolution , refresh rate and input lag , Does it support at least 1080p 60hz and low enough input lag for gaming ?
I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I have tried 2 different Ethernet adapter/hubs with my Pixel 7 Pro. They are: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LCHDRP9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W52R8KY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These will not allow the Ethernet tethering setting to activate on the Pixel 7 Pro, although both work instantly with my Samsung. I need one that will put a mouse pointer on the phone's screen and allow the use of a keyboard, and may need power input, unless I can power it with the phone upside down in the pixel stand. If nothing else, a working plain Ethernet adapter, and I will use Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Google sells one for their 4k chromecast, but they fail to specify if it will work for Ethernet tethering on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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I haven't been able to get anything to work with stability on either of my two docks so I don't have a large enough selection to make a definitive statement on the support, but the farthest I've gotten is using my dock that has an RTL8153A-4. It will work for a bit, but when pushing enough data it'll end up resetting. Hits up to 400Mbps but then it drops out. That's par for the course with early RTL8153 chips. It's also a terrible dock and the seller has been banned from Amazon for one reason or another, so can add that on too.
On the other hand I have a more modern Yottamaster NVMe dock that I use with my Steam Deck and it works great. Surprisingly, it is almost fully functional on my phone except for display (obviously know why) and Ethernet. It's using the RTL8153B-2, but I can't get any data to pass over it. The r8152 kernel driver reports that it can't load the firmware, because the phone doesn't have any firmware from linux-firmware outside of what is needed for the hardware internally. Both the kernel driver and Ethernet system report when a cable is connected and the carrier is on, but nothing makes it over the cable.
The first dock you linked also has an RTL8153, so at this point I'm guessing newer revision RTL8153 support is just broken on the phones without the ability to load firmware for them. The second dock you linked inspires some confidence that it will have an AX88178 controller in it, but I've looked at docks recently on Amazon and ones that list AX88178/AX88179 are apparently silently subbing them out for the RTL8153 according to reviews. You're going to have to plug it in to your computer to check what the Ethernet controller shows up as.
Best course of action I can see is to either try to find a dock with an AX88178 in it if your second dock actually has an RTL8153 in it, or get an older USB 2.0 RTL8152 adapter since those are more reliable although that restricts you to 10/100.
It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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It's a bit of an older model but I have been using an Aukey CB-C71 with a Pixel 7 Pro and previously Pixel 6 Pro with ethernet, USB-PD, USB keyboard, and USB wireless mouse. I have used USB PD with everything from the original Nexus 6p chargers to various Windows and Mac laptop chargers without issues.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I'm curious, do you know what chipset the CB-C71 uses? I have another adapter on the way from Amazon, if that doesn't work out I may try the CB-C71 or a device with a similar chipset.
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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I really can't say for sure, but this is the output from 'sudo lshw'
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8152 driverversion=v1.12.13 duplex=full firmware=rtl8153b-2 v1 10/23/19 ip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=1Gbit/s
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RTL8153B-2, interesting that it doesn't have any issues.
I found an adapter that works: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGHKLSPG?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details It is gigabit, with power port. It works without its power plugged in and the phone upside down on the powered pixel stand. I would still like to buy a real hub with gigabit ethernet for the P7P, if someone finds one.
This Anker one works just fine
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This Anker one works just fine
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That meets most of my specs. The problem is only 4k 30hz HDMI. If I want to use it with a 4k 60hz device that can use the HDMI output, (obviously not the crippled Pixel line) I would be downgrading.