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XDA app issues

EDIT: app thread linked in following post

The thread is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841646
(Not an android user so I can't answer your questions)
Thanks
Dave

twvance said:
I tried searching for 'XDA app,' but I guess thats too frequently used to find a thread dedicated to the app, so I thought I would start one in order to address certain issues with the XDA app.
Here are some complaints I have with the app:
1. It won't save my favorite threads. If I navigate to the thread, the menu tells me it is a favorite, yet the thread doesn't show up in my favorites tab.
2. Kind of minor, but I think adding a 'search this thread' option would be nice a well.
Can anyone else confirm these issues?
Sent from my Captivate running Serendipity 2.0
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1. It will show in the favorite tab if you refresh the app. But I personnally prefer to mark it with the star so it is immediately displayed in my favorite threads.
2. I agree. The search function isn't very useful on the application as you get results from all the forum threads which makes it hard to find posts related to your question.

[Q] Off topic but don't want to have another lost thread in some other forum...

I always thought the foums here at XDA were little counter-intuitive at times as far as navigation, but it never really mattered that much.... However, now I am stuck and cannot seem to do something rather simple... I dunno maybe I am tired.... but I thought I would ask so this doesn't become an obstacle.
I am trying to find all of my posts in this forum (HTC One-S). I didn't see an option, so I went to one of the sub-forums (like this one: One S General). Under advanced search, I entered my username in the correct place ("Find posts by..."). The result is 40 or so threads...but each thread has anywhere from 8 to 95 pages. I appreciate the helpful information to the left of each thread stating "you have X posts in this thread".... but I cannot for the life of me figure out how to bring up those posts.
[Also, I now see the widget icon next to Search All Forums on the Main Forum page... maybe I can search individual forums though that.]
But can someone tell me how to do a search which results in a page of only my posts????
Thanks in advance...!

On the advanced search page there is an option that lets you "show results as posts". It will show individual posts instead of threads.
Edit: nevermind they seem to have drastically simplified the advanced search and removed a lot of options. Try going to your profile page and the "Statistics" tab, then click "find all posts by syntropic".

Scroll to the top of the XDA Website where it says Welcome, "_______" <------ your name. Click on your name. Your profile should come up in the "About me" part of your profile. Scroll down toward the middle park of your profile and click on "Statistics". There should be a list that comes up. Click on "Find all posts by ______" (Your name)..

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This is not the place to ask this! Just use the statistics tab in your profile, it will show you all of your posts with a marker on which forum they were posted. You could of even PMed one of the moderation team, we are here to help.​

[Guide] How to Use XDA Forums And Threads: For [New Members]

I have had many people ask questions about how to use this website, so i thought i would take the time to make a guide to help out newer members that may be confused or overwhelmed by the wealth of information here. Hopefully this will help you to make a quick transition from a new member to an experienced member. I am basing this off of the website version (Dark theme 2015) on PC as it seems to be the most confusing for people. If you are using the mobile site, or app, then some of these options may not be available or may be located in a slightly different place. I have also left a few things out for the sake of simplicity. After reading this thread feel free to ask any questions that you have and i will try my best to clear things up. Some of the things we will discuss are...
~Settings
~How to set up your profile and preferences
~How to make friends
~How to graduate to a Member, Senior Member, and more
~How to make a signature
~What does my profile look like to others?
~Notifications
~How to change thread display options
~How to change the theme
~How to keep up to date with interesting threads
~How to find your previous posts
~XDA forum rules
~How to search for what you are looking for
~Your device page
~How to find the right download for your device in threads
~How to get help when you cant find the threads or answers that you are looking for
~How to post, reply, give thanks, etc. in threads
~How to rate threads and participate in polls
~How to report bad behavior
~How to attach photos to a thread
~How to donate to developers
~XDA Assist
~How to start a new thread
~Sending private messages
~How to upload photos to a private message
~And more!
​
Settings:​I think setting this up first is best. Click on settings button near the top right of your screen. Then you will find the XDA control panel on the left. Here you can setup/edit your XDA experience. Now we will take a look at some of the options available in "Settings"...​
Edit Your Details​
Here you will find a quick link to change the email affiliated with your XDA account or change your password. You can also add information that will show up to others when they view your profile such as your birthday, what device you are using, your personal website link, how to instant message you on other messaging networks, links to your social media accounts, the phone carrier that you are using, what city and country you are from, a short biography of yourself, your interests and hobbies, your work occupation, and how to donate to you (if you think your contributions to XDA will be worth a donation).​
Profile Privacy​
Here you can edit what information you will allow others to see about you just in case you would like to keep some information more private.​
Edit Profile Picture​
Here you can add/edit a profile picture by either uploading a photo from your computer or phone, or entering a link to a photo from another website that you use such as dropbox.​
Contacts & Friends​
Here you can select XDA users to add to your contacts or friends list. You can also find information on how to delete contacts here.​
Social Groups​
Here you can search for social groups to join or start your own social group. Social groups are usually a grouping of people that have the same device, same interests, same cultural background, etc.​
Pictures & Albums​
Here you can add picture albums to upload photos to for sharing with others here on XDA.​
Edit Avatar​
Here you can add a photo that will appear under your username whenever you make a post.​
Edit Signature​
Here you can add/edit a signature (text and/or photo) that will appear at the bottom of every post you make. You can hover over edit options with your cursor to see a description of what they do (like change color of text, change size of text, etc.). You can highlight a part of your signature and select an edit option to change only that part. For a complete guide to all the cool things you can do in a signature, go here! Things that would be great to include in your signature would be your device model number, which ROM version you are using (stock is what came on your phone from the store, and custom ROM is like Cyanogenmod or other aftermarket ROM that was flashed by you or previous owner of device), which kernel version you are using, which android version you have (like 4.4.2 or 5.1.1), which baseband version you are using, which recovery version you are using (stock is what came on your phone from the store, and custom recovery is like Clockworkmod, team win recovery project, etc), any additional custom framework or modules that have been added to your device (like Xposed, Lspeed, etc. Do not list apps), or anything else that you think is important related to your device. If you are unsure, most of this info is available in android settings-about phone. Entering this info will help us to quickly answer your questions.​
Edit Email & Password​
Here you can change the email affiliated with your XDA account, change your password, or connect a Google+ account to your XDA profile.​
Edit Options​
Here you can find additional privacy options, messaging and notification options to keep up with interesting threads, private messaging options, date and time options, and customize how the website looks to you including the theme.​
Edit Ignore List​
Here you can add or delete contacts that you wish to ignore during your XDA experience.​
List Messages​
Here you can see any private messages that you have received or sent. You can also delete or save messages here as well as change the display options for your message list. An easier way to get to this list is by going into messages from the box labeled "messages" near the top right of your screen.​
List Subscriptions​
Here you can view the threads that you have subscribed to in a nice and neat list.​
Edit Folders​
Here you can add/edit folders that you want to keep subscribed threads organized in case you have a lot of them.​
Attachments​
Here you can view or delete any attachments that you have attached in previous posts.​
You may find that you are unable to post replies or threads in some places at first. Please make 10 meaningful or helpful posts elsewhere first and then you will be able to. You will graduate from a Junior Member to a Member at 30 posts. You will graduate from a Member to a Senior Member at 100 posts. To graduate to a Recognized Contributor, Recognized Developer, or Moderator, please search in the "Search all forums" box near the top middle of the screen, and type "How to become a (which ever one of these I mentioned that you are curious about)"​
Near the top right of the screen there will be a button labeled "Notifications". Here you will get quick access to messages, mentions, quotes and statistics (statistics will be shown on same page as quotes. Here you can also find all posts made by you in the past, and all thanked posts made by you in the past), and update alerts for software you are using from subscribed threads. Also towards the right of the screen you will see easy access tabs to quickly view unread messages, and threads that you subscribed to.​
Near the top right of the screen you will see the button for "Swappa". This is an online store for buying and selling devices and is recommended by XDA​.
Next read XDA Forum Rules if you haven't yet before going any further. Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the webpage and you will find a link for this as well as some other useful links. Or you can click here.​
Finding The Forums And Threads That You Are Looking For​​​​
Now to find the best forums and threads related to your device, click on the search box near the top left of your screen and start typing any identifying words that relate to your device until you find it. Once your device is selected you will find specifications, forums, threads, information on how to root, ROM's, kernels, and tools/utilities that are related to your device. If you are not able to find your device, then use the search box for searching all forums to find forums and threads that may be related to your device. This may be needed if you have a very new, old, or less common device. You may have to select the settings icon to the right of this search box for advanced search options. For a complete guide to using XDA's search features, check out this thread by my friend @TheMerovingian. If you are still not finding the information you need, read below for what to do next.
XDA Assist And How To Start Your Own Thread​
If you are still not finding the information you need after following the steps above, then click on the XDA assist tab near the top left of your screen. Here you can start a new thread requesting help to find the information you are looking for. You can find the new thread button near the top left of your screen. If you did find the forum you were looking for, then you can start a thread there the same way by selecting the new thread button near the top left of your screen. If you are unsure if this is the right forum to start your thread, then select the moderator tab near the top middle of the screen and send a private message to one of the moderators telling them what your thread is about, the name of your thread, where you think it should go, and politely ask if that is the right thing to do.
How To Operate Within Threads​​​​
Now that you have found a thread that interests you, here is some information on how to utilize your resources to get the most out of it. The original post or OP is where you are going to find the most info and usually any downloads that are related to the thread. This is on the first page of the thread (sdk version is related to which android version you are running. Arm, arm64, and x86 version is related to which processor you have in your device). If you cannot find this info in your android settings, then search for your device specifications online. Read all of the first page now. If you still have questions about the thread, next use the search box at the top of the original post to find specific info within the thread. If you still have questions read through a majority of the thread before posting questions. Unless it is a new thread, most likely the answer to your question is in there somewhere. The newest posts will be towards the last page of the thread. If you still have questions its time to make a post in the thread.
Making A Post In A Thread​​​​
At the bottom of the thread page you will see an option for a quick reply. This is a basic reply with limited options. Not many people are going to notice this post especially in a busy thread. If you want a specific person to be alerted that you have made a post then you either need to mention them by adding text in your post like this... @ZipAddict or you need to quote another persons post by selecting the "reply" button at the bottom right of the post that you are replying to. If you would like to alert multiple people that you have posted, then you need to select the "multi-quote" button at the bottom right of each persons post that you are replying to followed by selecting reply. Once again if you hover over edit options at the top of the reply you are making, you will see a description of what each one does (like change the font, or hide text like in my signature). For a complete guide on all the cool things you can do in a post, go here! Additional options are available below the text box and this is where you can add attachments to your post. If you are wanting to post several photos or videos, it can be easier to post a link to an offsite photo gallery like dropbox in your post itself. ​
Sending Private Messages​
To send someone a private message you can either click on their username and select "send message", or you can go to your message list and start a new message by manually entering the username/s of who you wish to send a message to. If you are wanting to send attachments in a private message, then you can include a link to your offsite gallery just like we discussed above.
~If someone has posted something that has helped you, then you are urged to hit the "thanks" button under that post regardless if you post a thank you.
~If someone is breaking the forum rules, then you are urged to hit the "!" button at the bottom left of their post and report them.
~If the thread has a poll (at the top of the thread), then you should participate. It only takes a second, and your opinion matters.
~You should rate the thread (at the top of the thread) immediately if it has helped you a lot. If not, give it a little time before rating and dont be quick to give a bad rating.
~If you benefit from software that you have used here, you should donate to the developer. Any amount is appreciated, and this will motivate them to keep providing the service that you use.
~Be patient and do not make another post about the same thing twice. If no one answers within 24 hours you could send a private message to the maker of the thread politely asking for direction.​
This is something I put together real quickly to point new members in the right direction and once again i did not go over every single option or detail. Feel free to ask any questions here, or to request more information regarding a certain topic though. And if you see any mistakes please point them out so that i can correct them. Also, if anyone would like to make photos or videos outlining these things, then i will be happy to add them and give credit. In the meantime i will attach photos as requested. Thank you for reading and good luck on your XDA adventures!:good::good:

Thank you.

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Very helpful ! Thank you !

Very well done. Excellent guide and very helpful for new members. :victory:

The_Merovingian said:
Very well done. Excellent guide and very helpful for new members. :victory:
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Thank you friend!
I urge everyone to look through his threads as well ^ as he has some very informative ones that cover many topics, and is extremely helpful and kind to all members! :good::good:

Very useful information for every member, Thank you so much !

Thanks for the heads up, new member today

J.I. Shawon said:
Thank you.
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Very helpful ! Thank you !
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Sparkia said:
Very useful information for every member, Thank you so much !
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ULTRA777 said:
Thanks for the heads up, new member today
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! Let me know if you need anything!

thank you very much. will read then go ahead

blackview said:
thank you very much. will read then go ahead
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! Let me know if you need anything!

Newbie here. Thanks for the guide, it's informative and helpful for me.

Thank's for guide bro

Thank you...it's really Helpful.
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Anders81 said:
Newbie here. Thanks for the guide, it's informative and helpful for me.
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Anonymous94 said:
Thank's for guide bro
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jhalayashraj said:
Thank you...it's really Helpful.
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! Let me know if you need anything!

Thanks for the info its always nice to get friendly advice on your first day at school

@ZipAddict great job here
I'm so proud on you heheh
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

davyro said:
Thanks for the info its always nice to get friendly advice on your first day at school
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! Let me know if you need anything!
Paget96 said:
@ZipAddict great job here
I'm so proud on you heheh
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Thank u friend! Great work on LSpeed! I love it! Have a good day!

Thank you!
Really thank you!
It is very helpful to newcomers like me

L-K said:
Really thank you!
It is very helpful to newcomers like me
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! Let me know if you need anything!

kanesimicart said:
Thank You !
It's Very useful information for every member.
I'm Kane
Happy to be here also. I hope that we can build better community here.
Nice to meet you !
Regards!
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Welcome to XDA and thank you for reading! I like that attitude! You will be able to help build a better community here (even though it is already awesome!) Nice to meet you as well! Let me know if you need anything!

Can you be interested in a new keyboard type?

hi, I would need feedback and some advice on this topic, is there a need to change the way we enter data via our touch-screen?
the qwerty model keyboard, as functional as it is, doesn't prevent us from fully exploiting the flexibility that a touch screen offers?
Do you already know of any applications that are trying an innovative way?
something like this -> h__ps://78.media.tumblr.com/4b793885c31132b1db6a1bbcc517d0a4/tumblr_inline_n4t4ws6F821r0z1sd.gif
I have not found one so I made one, I developed a new app to enter data via touch input, i developed it for android system and allows you to completely customize the system with which to enter data; what does that mean?
means that every touch on the screen becomes a valid point for data entry and each of these various characters/actions/suggestions change positions and dimension based on different parameters, such as number of touches on the screen, screen size, screen orientation, screen definition, type of data to be entered, dictionary used.... too complicated? the app is currently in its final stage, and I am now developing a python library that allows you to create pkg of configurations;
What I would also ask you would support a crowdfunding campaign to complete this app and its supporting site?

crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
Forum Rules
8. Donations.
As a user, you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work, however donations up front are not allowed. This forum is about sharing and not about getting paid to do something... that is what your job is for.
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xanthrax said:
crowdfunding campaign isn`t allowed on XDA
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the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )

_U03C6_ said:
the fact is that there is no fundraising campaign, and there will not be until I have finished all the work, and it will take a long time; the post I created was not to raise funds but to get an answer on what I think a big limit that we still carry behind, I wanted to open a discussion about what alternative to qwerty users believe should exist; if I expressed myself badly deleted even the post, it is not a problem : )
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I did not say you started a campaign, I just pointed to the rules that a further discussion won`t derail towards crowdfunding, that`s all.
You are more than welcome to discuss anything else related to development and also post links , screenshots or anything wich can help you.
I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know

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I also can move this thread to the Android General discussion section if you want, off-topic is basically non-development related so , your choice, just let me know
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if this will increase the volume of discussion seems to me a good idea, thx

How to search into a thread.

Like the title said... How can i search into a thread on this forum, I can't seem to find it anywhere.

xenius123 said:
Like the title said... How can i search into a thread on this forum, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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Go to the search bar, and in the menu where it says "everywhere" by default, select "this thread"
Edit: Old answer, newest one here:
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Yep, we knew that when testing. The xda team is working on it (it takes time but it will be addressed eventually)
You can keep using "[your search] site:forum.xda-developers.com" in google to search for threads. To search in thread use control+F and go through as much pages as you can (that's a solution if you REALLLLLLLY want to search. Otherwise look at the right part of your screen, there should be a "most thanked" section. Useful answers are usually there
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Raiz said:
Go to the search bar, and in the menu where it says "everywhere" by default, select "this thread"
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Thanks!

Didn't work for me. Still shows results same as "Everywhere". Please help.

Raiz said:
Go to the search bar, and in the menu where it says "everywhere" by default, select "this thread"
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It doesn't work at all. Search "everywhere" or "threads" "forum and devices" all yield identical result. And you'd know that if you actually use the function yourself.
There is another button says "search forums" and all it does is search globally.
I think XDA-Developer's new website is trying to boost the site's activities by deliberately crippling the search function and encourage people to ask the same question again and again.
A prime example of "if it is not broken, let's break it for kicks"
Someone is having some sort of weird satisfaction by watching their users hopelessly trying to find their answer and couldn't find any. It's like watching his pet mouse couldn't get out of a maze.

The previous search was intuitive. It used to produce results sorted to newest first. Please tell me how to get results sorted to descending order of date now.

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It doesn't work at all. Search "everywhere" or "threads" "forum and devices" all yield identical result. And you'd know that if you actually use the function yourself.
There is another button says "search forums" and all it does is search globally.
I think XDA-Developer's new website is trying to boost the site's activities by deliberately crippling the search function and encourage people to ask the same question again and again.
A prime example of "if it is not broken, let's break it for kicks"
Someone is having some sort of weird satisfaction by watching their users hopelessly trying to find their answer and couldn't find any. It's like watching his pet mouse couldn't get out of a maze.
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This message was from quite long ago, some things may have changed. When I wrote this message I used the function, and it worked just fine.
I know, the search function isn't working flawlessly rn, but things keeps moving, so be patient.
And do you seriously think xda is deliberately breaking the search function to make users mad ?? Do you really think that xda would deliberately force its users to clog the already full Q'n'A forum with useless repeated questions ? You're saying "boost the activity" when it's literally spamming the forum with old questions that contributors will just answer by ("see here: link)" anyway. XDA isn't payed for how much post/thread is created, in fact it's the opposite! You come with assumptions on how works the whole thing, those are assumptions, so you can complain about the search function no problem but keep those theories of yours for yourself.
And if you want you can just use google:
[your search] site:forum.xda-developers.com
I get it you're frustrated, but be nice when posting, I would've happily told you that trick if you did so. I still did, but it wasn't heartily...

that1 said:
The previous search was intuitive. It used to produce results sorted to newest first. Please tell me how to get results sorted to descending order of date now.
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Didn't work for me. Still shows results same as "Everywhere". Please help.
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Forgot to answer, use google like that it should work fine:
[your search] site:forum.xda-developers.com
It looks like it's broken rn, there surely will be a fix, but for now use google it should get the job done

Experiencing the same issue here.. The search function in the new interface does not work for me..

voided said:
Experiencing the same issue here.. The search function in the new interface does not work for me..
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Yep, we knew that when testing. The xda team is working on it (it takes time but it will be addressed eventually)
You can keep using "[your search] site:forum.xda-developers.com" in google to search for threads. To search in thread use control+F and go through as much pages as you can (that's a solution if you REALLLLLLLY want to search. Otherwise look at the right part of your screen, there should be a "most thanked" section. Useful answers are usually there

Trying to use the search function (thread) with no result at all.

Not working, what a pain! Why always need to change the theme when everything was fine before?

ah so it's not just me... There should be like a huge flashing message at the top of every page saying "search does not work properly" or just disable the function until its working.

xenius123 said:
Like the title said... How can i search into a thread on this forum, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
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See this post
[CLOSED] XenForo 2.2 Upgrade! Post Bugs, Issues and Comments Here
On 3/11/2021 at around 10am New York time, XDA will be upgrading our forum software to XenForo 2.2 which brings a bunch of new improvements, like a new thread preview tool, a Device Inventory tool to show off which phones you use, a most-thanked...
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ErismaSS said:
ah so it's not just me... There should be like a huge flashing message at the top of every page saying "search does not work properly" or just disable the function until its working.
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Especially considering following favorite mechanical answer from exp. devs :
> This has been discussed many times on this thread. Please search the thread for keywords (such as ${search} in this case) before posting. Thanks
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tags search is working https://forum.xda-developers.com/tags/ , btw @sd_shadow @svetius thanks for having raised them to 10x units, exp. devs must use them more efficiently...
(EDIT: @svetius , technically I should be able to up-vote (or down-vote) my post, shouldn't I ?)

kngharv said:
It doesn't work at all. Search "everywhere" or "threads" "forum and devices" all yield identical result. And you'd know that if you actually use the function yourself.
There is another button says "search forums" and all it does is search globally.
I think XDA-Developer's new website is trying to boost the site's activities by deliberately crippling the search function and encourage people to ask the same question again and again.
A prime example of "if it is not broken, let's break it for kicks"
Someone is having some sort of weird satisfaction by watching their users hopelessly trying to find their answer and couldn't find any. It's like watching his pet mouse couldn't get out of a maze.
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I can't agree more with @kngharv : It's impossible that a website like xda-developers hasn't managed (unless intentionally) to fix this issue in months. I'm sure they could fix it in a couple of hourse if they wanted to.

zogoibi said:
I can't agree more with @kngharv : It's impossible that a website like xda-developers hasn't managed (unless intentionally) to fix this issue in months. I'm sure they could fix it in a couple of hourse if they wanted to.
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In January at the time when the post was created that you quoted the search function was indeed broken. However, at least for me it seems to be completely fixed already for weeks or months. I've personally no issues at all, neither with a general search on XDA or e.g. a specific in-thread search. For me it's obvious that meanwhile the complete database has been transfered and indexed after the transition from vBulletin to Xenforo and the new servers.
If you still have problems please provide some more information, examples or screenshots to allow us to support and assist you in fixing your problem. Such a generic statement like yours isn't really helpful in trouble-shooting.
And I hope you don't mind that I don't respond to the unsubstantial assumptions and accusations in the post to that you completely agree. Even during the times of the broken search we enforced implementation of rule no. 5 of the XDA Forum Rules, and removed duplicated posts or questions or closed threads if a subject matter related one already existed.

Oswald Boelcke said:
In January at the time when the post was created that you quoted the search function was indeed broken. However, at least for me it seems to be completely fixed already for weeks or months. I've personally no issues at all, neither with a general search on XDA or e.g. a specific in-thread search. For me it's obvious that meanwhile the complete database has been transfered and indexed after the transition from vBulletin to Xenforo and the new servers.
If you still have problems please provide some more information, examples or screenshots to allow us to support and assist you in fixing your problem. Such a generic statement like yours isn't really helpful in trouble-shooting.
And I hope you don't mind that I don't respond to the unsubstantial assumptions and accusations in the post to that you completely agree. Even during the times of the broken search we enforced implementation of rule no. 5 of the XDA Forum Rules, and removed duplicated posts or questions or closed threads if a subject matter related one already existed.
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In thread search rarely works for me.

sd_shadow said:
In thread search rarely works for me.
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As I said, for me it works fine but probably it's my limited use, too. Can you provide me an example that we can compare our results?

Oswald Boelcke said:
As I said, for me it works fine but probably it's my limited use, too. Can you provide me an example that we can compare our results?
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Seems to be working now, but when @zogoibi posted It wasn't.