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so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!
FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
another thing. stock fw is pretty good but i miss some features, for example long press volume buttons when screen is off to switch songs (without headphones) and unlink notifications/ringtones volume and change volume steps. do you know if i can achieve all this with xposed for example and gravity box? will these features be compatible on huawei?
last thing, i don't use any gapps/services. in the past i used to create flahsable zips for stock firmwares (sony, Samsung etc) to remove all Google stuff, will this work with huawei as well i suppose? or maybe it will prevent phone to boot? dunno how is huawei linked to google stuff.. and if the Google icon in settings will disappear removing google stuff..
tia for any helps guys!
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I believe Honor 8 will impress you in terms of photography. As for your desired features, Xposed modules will most likely grant those. For Google stuff, you won't have problems of you delete the right apps.
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thanks for the answer my friend!
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thanks for the answer my friend!
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You are welcome my friend.
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Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.
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Low light camera is actually very good. Samsung GS7 is the best in this area but H8 comes close.
Overall you'll see a huge quality bump.
You can customize button press, yes.
If you root you can take almost every gaps from H8.
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Note 3 and 4 rocked as well.
FcukBloat said:
so I'm very disappointed about the so big advertising i saw about this phone on this forum from xda staff and promises about possible agreements between xda and huawei so to have maybe good development when in the end it seems it was just words.. nevertheless in this price range i still think this phone is one of the best if not the best for specs so could maybe get one anyway.
that said my first question is about camera. i tested two huawei phones lately (p8 lite and g8) and found out the former did very bad pictures (especially in low light conditions/inside spaces.. terrible!) while the latter (g8) seems to make very good pictures, also with low light.
do someone knows if the honor 8 makes good pictures in low light conditions/inside spaces in the evening like the g8 maybe? or better? but anyway better than the terrible p8 lite?
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I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.
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I can confirm that it makes good (I would not say great it is for the top Samsung devices) pictores in low light. That is the environment where the second camera comes to handy and makes pictures with a bit more light and less noise. The only thing which you have to keep it mind is that you have to hol the phone still since it does not have OIS.
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That's, for me the biggest gripe, the lack of any stabilization, either optical or electronic. I can live without 4K.
i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!
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i have pretty still hands but my primary need is to take pictures of my baby inside home.. so without that stabilisation thing you think all my pictures will be bad probably? (when baby is moving, so most of the times..)
the huawei gx8 my gf owns has OIS... and the honor 8 doesn't.. how is that possible? gx8 is older and wasn't even a flagship..!! her gx8 indeed takes nice pictures also inside home in the evening or outside with low light.. so is that supposed to take better pictures than the honor8..? my god..
tia!
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OIS comes handy when you take a video or a >1/30 picture. In normal light conditions it actually does not have any affect on the picture quality. Usually when there is less light (actually during night) the camera software tries to compensate with taking the picture longer. That is when you can enjoy the benefits of the OIS. But if you hold your phone still there is no much a difference between a camera with OIS and without it only if you zoom in. And even with the dual camera you can take better pictures (the second camera catches more light)
So that is it. And the gx8 could have the OIS because it was a single camera. For two camera you have to create an OIS which moves the two camera simultaneously. The Huawei could just finish the development at the Mate 9.
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thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!
FcukBloat said:
thanks chief! so i guess I'll experience it myself soon, am probably ordering one honor 8 today as my mi5 is gonna take ages to get back after repair in China.. and i need a replacement phone soon.
then if it takes better pictures than the mi5 and if development will arrive, will keep it, otherwise will sell it when i get my mi5 back
thanks again!
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Your welcome and enjoy the phone (and if there are some great pictures you took you are welcome to share them here in the forum).
Can confirm, absolutely love this phone for photography.
In fact I love this phone hands down, hope you enjoy it was much as I do!
What do u guys think of the camera?
Compared it to the pixel 2 and seriously that damn hdr on the google side is just insane.
P20 Pro loses alot of details even in normal shots.
Even in night shots pixel 2 captures so many details.
For some reason the ai also stands in the way, greenery mode especially cranks up the shadows and so many details are lost
I am kinda disappointed in the camera department.
Hopefully huawei will work on a better hdr in their future updates.
Pixel 2 is still the king of smartphone photography, can only imagine what will happen if pixel 3 goes dual cameras.
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What do u guys think of the camera?
Compared it to the pixel 2 and seriously that damn hdr on the google side is just insane.
P20 Pro loses alot of details even in normal shots.
Even in night shots pixel 2 captures so many details.
For some reason the ai also stands in the way, greenery mode especially cranks up the shadows and so many details are lost
I am kinda disappointed in the camera department.
Hopefully huawei will work on a better hdr in their future updates.
Pixel 2 is still the king of smartphone photography, can only imagine what will happen if pixel 3 goes dual cameras.
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Cant say that am agree with you,
And i own both phone.
You can go to this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...uawei-p20-pro-share-fantastic-t3774488/page15 to read more discussion about camera.
Conclusion is. P20 Pro is not your another point and shoot kind of camera. Its more like a photographer tool. It give you best result when you play around the setting and willing to go through the learning curve of using various camera mode. Not a fully auto like in our pixel 2 :laugh:
I'm very satisfied with the camera. Although I agree that the software can be on the heavy side when sharpening and smoothing areas. Havent tried RAW mode yet, but I'll experiment some more with that later.
Dark shots are amazing when using auto or night mode. I mean, considering doing them without a tripod.
any test gcam in p20 pro?
I am. Sold my p20 pro because of the camera and touch lag. I primarily take photos of people in indoor lighting at night, p20 pro just can't keep up with pixel 2 xl's crazy detail particularly in that situation. Using night mode gets it closer, but still can't beat the hdr+.
Also, the problem with night mode is that it is not a simple switch on the main interface. We have to scroll scroll, click, aaaand the moment's gone.
Megaromania said:
What do u guys think of the camera?
Compared it to the pixel 2 and seriously that damn hdr on the google side is just insane.
P20 Pro loses alot of details even in normal shots.
Even in night shots pixel 2 captures so many details.
For some reason the ai also stands in the way, greenery mode especially cranks up the shadows and so many details are lost
I am kinda disappointed in the camera department.
Hopefully huawei will work on a better hdr in their future updates.
Pixel 2 is still the king of smartphone photography, can only imagine what will happen if pixel 3 goes dual cameras.
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Try Night Mod in daylight it is better then Pixel HDR+. Thats what I see on meny photo comparisons.
Yes
You are definitely right! I looked at the original 40 MP photos taken with p20 pro with excitement. I zoomed in and saw that there is no good amount of detail! They looked like low quality 10-12 MP photos! In low light it might take better photos because it has a larger sensor but in low light nope..
I can definitely say that Huawei didn't focus on the "software" enough (shame on Huawei), that's very unfortunate considering this phone has a good camera hardware.
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I am. Sold my p20 pro because of the camera and touch lag. I primarily take photos of people in indoor lighting at night, p20 pro just can't keep up with pixel 2 xl's crazy detail particularly in that situation. Using night mode gets it closer, but still can't beat the hdr+.
Also, the problem with night mode is that it is not a simple switch on the main interface. We have to scroll scroll, click, aaaand the moment's gone.
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I have Pixel 2 and P20 Pro and disagree. The Pixel has far too omuch noise in indoor lighting, the P20 pro is just as quick at taking the shot and is clearer with less noise.
As for the Night mode... usually it's for buildings and such to get great low light phots... So we scroll... and click... aaaannnd the moment is still there unless the building fell over... haha.
HDR+ on the Pixel is good, but i'm afraid it just got toppled. Even the non HDR shots on the P20 Pro (with AI off) are better in all scenarios.
No issues with the camera, if you are wanting top notch photos then use a dedicated DLSR, the camera on the P20 Pro is the bridge between full on DSLR and Phone camera and does produce some outstanding results, just mess about with the settings, its not like other phone cameras and as a lot more settings/features to play with. I use my DLSR cameras for main photos while my P20 Pro will be for quick snaps when out and about and don't want to carry my main cameras.
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I am. Sold my p20 pro because of the camera and touch lag. I primarily take photos of people in indoor lighting at night, p20 pro just can't keep up with pixel 2 xl's crazy detail particularly in that situation. Using night mode gets it closer, but still can't beat the hdr+.
Also, the problem with night mode is that it is not a simple switch on the main interface. We have to scroll scroll, click, aaaand the moment's gone.
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its a pity that you still use old software at that time,
.107 bring on much improved auto HDR. much detail are preserved, and it produce more consistent results on various scene now
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I have Pixel 2 and P20 Pro and disagree. The Pixel has far too omuch noise in indoor lighting, the P20 pro is just as quick at taking the shot and is clearer with less noise.
As for the Night mode... usually it's for buildings and such to get great low light phots... So we scroll... and click... aaaannnd the moment is still there unless the building fell over... haha.
HDR+ on the Pixel is good, but i'm afraid it just got toppled. Even the non HDR shots on the P20 Pro (with AI off) are better in all scenarios.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Wc9KBJPHaCbV3l63
Not here to argue anything cuz these are the kind of photos I mainly take now with phones. To each their own. Check info to find out which taken with what. P20 pro came closest when using night mode
Allesa said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Wc9KBJPHaCbV3l63
Not here to argue anything cuz these are the kind of photos I mainly take now with phones. To each their own. Check info to find out which taken with what. P20 pro came closest when using night mode
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wow, much prefer the pixel shots
Allesa said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Wc9KBJPHaCbV3l63
Not here to argue anything cuz these are the kind of photos I mainly take now with phones. To each their own. Check info to find out which taken with what. P20 pro came closest when using night mode
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Ah, i see now. Then i would agree with you,
Pixel 2 XL would suit you much better for this kind of quick snapshot around the house,
using P20 Pro for this kind of shots would be a waste of money. Pixel algorithm do better job on that
Coming from a S8 Plus and Iphone 8 plus. The camera on the Huawei p20 Pro is weak as hell compared to those two.
Sorry, but it was just marketing.
Selling the phone and going another route.
neflictus said:
Coming from a S8 Plus and Iphone 8 plus. The camera on the Huawei p20 Pro is weak as hell compared to those two.
Sorry, but it was just marketing.
Selling the phone and going another route.
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Coming from every flagship the last two years I have to utterly disagree on your statement. Of course each to their own.
It's not perfect but the the versatility alone is huge. Night mode is certainly not a marketing ploy, it really does work and as advertised!
Can't wait to go on using 4 seconds breaks for a photo at night.
Auto is useless. Everything is over sharpened.
Oil for all of us.
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The camera is amazing im sorry but it's the best camera I've ever used in a phone period.
Certain situations call for certain features to be used, but I'm in no way disappointed, it's a complete beast, there isn't a phone on the planet that comes close, perhaps the pixel 2 but only maybe on video.
I am not really disapointed , but for a phone focusing on it's camera so much , i would like some added features.
I'ts nice to have AI available , but sometimes i would like to leave my own personal touch on my photo's. So why not include the AI "modes" into the filters menu ? That way i can pick the mode and strength i want to see , when i want to see it.
Manual HDR mode , effect is only marginal ? can't set any HDR bracketing options.
Sometimes, in high contrast scenes, HDR kick's in automatically , without warning or any way to cancel it. The effect is really pronounced then.
Pro mode : where is the bracketing ? Sharpening settings ? Noise removal settings ?
RAW : is not really raw , there is some weird effect where noise seems to be converted to dancing lines. Lens distortion is removed , but vignetting is still present ?
I also would like to have an option to save the "developed" photo in a lossless format (with some extra bit depth) in stead of JPG.
Allesa said:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/8Wc9KBJPHaCbV3l63
Not here to argue anything cuz these are the kind of photos I mainly take now with phones. To each their own. Check info to find out which taken with what. P20 pro came closest when using night mode
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Wow! that's stark! thanks for posting, it's exactly the type of images I plan to shoot and I was looking for a direct comparison between the Pixel 2 and the P20 Pro when shooting people in dimly lit indoors.
I suppose you had turned beauty mode down to 0, which however did not switch it off in earlier versions of the camera software.
Is the problem still present with the latest camera update (.128)?
Does shooting in Photo mode preserve more detail?
Thanks.
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otonieru said:
Ah, i see now. Then i would agree with you,
Pixel 2 XL would suit you much better for this kind of quick snapshot around the house,
using P20 Pro for this kind of shots would be a waste of money. Pixel algorithm do better job on that
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You said it, it's a software problem. The P20 Pro comes with superior camera hardware (a much larger main sensor to start with), so I really don't understand why it has to ruin skin in indoor shots to that extent.
From what users report it's all a matter of not being able to turn beautification off completely.
I've read that since update .128 the overprocessing issue was improved.
Does this also apply to skin?
How would such shots appear if shot in Photo mode, or RAW?
I ask about RAW because apparently Huawei's RAW images are also processed, at least geometrically, e.g. by applying lens distortion correction, so I can't be sure that pixel values are unaltered.
I purchased the P20 Pro specifically for the camera as I'm a professional photographer and want the best IQ out of my always with me smartphone camera. I have owned the P20 Pro for almost two months now and have seen a dramatic improvement in the camera software over that time. The initial, pre 107 firmware was terrible with regard to raw color vignetting and at first I was fairly disappointed. The 107 firmware corrected the raw color vignetting issue, though of course there is still the typical natural vignetting that occurs with a small lens and large sensor (and yes, often the sensor DOES affect vignetting due to how it receives non parallel light rays from the lens). So natural, non color shifting vignetting was not really a surprise and does not bother me at all. I'm very happy with the IQ from 40MP raw images now. It's not going to match my 36MP full frame camera in good light of course but for a smartphone, the P20 Pro is pretty amazing.
Probably my biggest positive surprise with the P20 Pro (beyond the software capabilities of Night Mode) is the quality of the black & white camera. Really nice tonality, no doubt somewhat due to the Leica involvement.
Anyway, I'm now on the 131 firmware and the additional improvements I would like to see are more user control over color saturation, noise reduction and sharpness (and I would also love to be able to tweak how the Master AI option deals with color and color saturation). For the B&W camera, I would really, really love a raw option as well as control of noise reduction and sharpness as I occasionally see where the very aggressive noise reduction completely smooths/ blurs very fine distant detail such as grass.
As far as all the noise about the P20 Pro camera not being as good vs phone X, etc. I would say that there is a higher learning curve to getting the most out of the cameras in the P20 Pro. I see this as the best option for a more experienced user who is looking for the absolute best IQ available today out of a smartphone. For someone looking for the best, "no hassle" snapshots from a smartphone, there may be better options though that does seem to be improving with every firmware update of the P20 Pro.
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
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I have Note10, didn't see any monochrome lens, but possibly can be applied later as an effect. Nigh camera mode is there. I like images that this phone produced. I usually take photos of the nature, clouds and such... I haven't had a chance to put the camera into a good use, but I will.
Coming from two Pixels the camera on the new note is.... alright..
The issue i have is that you need to mess with different modes to figure out which mode to be in to get the best picture. For instance in regular mode i cant get a crisp picture of anything moving at all. My sons slight movements even cause a blur which sucks. In pro mode it makes the shutter much quicker and is able to snap moving targets.
Portrait mode is also a weird one. Live Focus kind of sucks and takes a ton of time to snap a photo so youll have to make sure that whatever youre shooting stays absolutely still. Again pro mode works pretty well but youll need to quickly change your ISO/fstop etc to get the best color.
Im currently using the Gcam port from the s10 and it works a bit better at getting overall better photos.
Im very used to opening my camera app and quickly taking the best photo possible so for me this is the biggest issue i have with the phone. My advice if you're a camera person is to wait for the next Pixel and make a decision from there
I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.
mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
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Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc
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Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc
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Love Liverpool ? thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X
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I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.
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I am and I love to use pro the problem with the mate 20 X is the AI gimic it massively over saturated the pictures I don't use it and normally unless I want a quick pic use pro mode
Hopefully can reproduce shots like this when my note 10 plus lands tomorrow ?
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Love Liverpool thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X
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It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like
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It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like
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Could you screen shot so I can see how the icons look.like ??
Here you go
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Here you go
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That's so much better thank you hate the massive icons
I know a lot of people (including myself) are bitter about how the updates to our device have been. As much as i want to move away from Huawei I can't help, but lean towards getting the P40 Pro. Mainly towards the camera aspect as I'm a photographer and like having what's essentially a pro camera in my pocket. So what are people's thoughts on the phone? Let's keep the whole Google and Huawei controversy out of the discussion please as we all know how stupid it is, but there are work arounds in the P40 Pro forums so it's nothing that really worries me.
I moved from p30 Pro to P40 pro - The main camera on par with better shots in the dark wors night mode?
Zoom is a lot better, but far from other cameras
Wide 18mm vs 16mm??? Bad move difference with main camera is not so big now and definitely far from Samsung's 13mm.
AI changed a lot especially in wide camera - pictures are not so punchy like P30's
Video is a lot better all over it but the zoom is not very good
Overall good improvement but not overwhelming.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p40-pro/review/photo-quality-t4067711
Just a Post from the P40pro Board.
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Yes, Google is Possible on the P40pro, but i know this from my Kindle Fire Tablet, i am not really happy with it. (Blocker for me)
Updates: Another Blocker for me.
Bootloader: Another Blocker. (is essential after official Updates for me)
Besides that i am really happy with the Quality of my P20Pro, and i am sad about the above points... and i am sure the P40pro makes phantastic pictures.
https://www.dxomark.com/huawei-p40-front-camera-review/
i also want my next camera with 2 front cameras, i like to take selfies
I also use zoom a lot.
So my next camera will be something like the p40pro , but no more huawei i am afraid.
As good as Huawei hardware is, there is no way I'm ever buying a Huawei phone again unless they roll back their locked bootloader policy. Which they won't.
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As good as Huawei hardware is, there is no way I'm ever buying a Huawei phone again unless they roll back their locked bootloader policy. Which they won't.
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What he said.
Never again.
I'll go with the new oneplus 8pro
No matter how good the phone is now, if it doesnt get updates, its dumb.
I'm pretty happy with my p40 pro so far and I migrated from p20 pro about 2weeks now
Im not sure if it's me but objects at even 15cm take a long time to focus, and after that I can only get to about x4.6 magnification for use able images. Note: about 15 cm is the closest I can get on x1 magnification, anything closer the image looses focus.
Once the x5 lens kicks in you cannot even see what you are taking a photo of.
Is it just me? I've attached a couple of examples. x1, x4.6, x5.
Anything above x4.7 the focus length completely changes and everything gets blurry
hve you tried disabling the AI?
I did and it didn't seem to make much difference
PartheevP said:
Im not sure if it's me but objects at even 15cm take a long time to focus, and after that I can only get to about x4.6 magnification for use able images. Note: about 15 cm is the closest I can get on x1 magnification, anything closer the image looses focus.
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That's correct behavior. At present (firmware .121) there's no dedicated macro mode. There's some rumors about a macro mode coming with the next firmware updates - but you should take that with a grain of salt (don't rely on that).
My guess on the slow focus: This is caused by the low distance, too close for the fast laser autofocus to work, so the P40 Pro needs to rely on "traditional" autofocus taking some more time.
Once the x5 lens kicks in you cannot even see what you are taking a photo of.
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Of course, because everything over 5 x should (unfortunately that's not always the case) invoke the telephoto lens - and the name might suggest it's meant for telephotos, not for close-distance shots.
The telephoto lens just needs more distance to the object to focus.
Huawei are aware of the bug as we raised it with them.
If you zoom in 10x you can't focus on anything close up either.
Update 10.1.0.131 has really better close-up shots.
donpablo80 said:
Update 10.1.0.131 has really better close-up shots.
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Yeah .131 adds AI Mode "Close-Up" which really improves the macro mode. It's still not as good as the P30 Pro's Macro Mode because of the lens types but it's a vast improvement on what the P40 Pro was doing before the .131 update
AnthonyParryUK said:
Yeah .131 adds AI Mode "Close-Up" which really improves the macro mode. It's still not as good as the P30 Pro's Macro Mode because of the lens types but it's a vast improvement on what the P40 Pro was doing before the .131 update
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Wierd I have. 131 but I didn't see the close up ai function come up. Will try again. But you are right even compared to my p20 pro it isn't as close
No macro lens no macro pictures. Stop trying to do something the phone is not capable of. Use rhe 50mp ai focus with loads of light instead and boom you can zoom in with great detail
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Huawei are aware of the bug as we raised it with them.
If you zoom in 10x you can't focus on anything close up either.
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Ive got the p40 pro and ive tried taking a few shots at different zooms and im not really facing that issue i know curently theres no super macro embedded on this emui version but im confident itll come
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No macro lens no macro pictures. Stop trying to do something the phone is not capable of. Use rhe 50mp ai focus with loads of light instead and boom you can zoom in with great detail
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Thank you very much for stating this.
Central problem is people being unaware of the way cameras work.
In another thread, there was someone complaining about "unfocused" picture parts - parts in the background and foreground, outside the depth of field.
OF COURSE that parts are out of focus - because they are out of focus.
Even after lengthy explanations he wasn't willing to change his mind.
If they ain't got any bokeh, they complain about the flat pics. If they got bokeh, they complain about the pics not being flat.
Similar here: I see users complaining about the laws of nature. I guess I'd spend most of my time studying online instructions on how to make letter bombs if I worked at Huawei's customer support.
Right in this thread: I explained the camera behaves just the way it should be, there is NO bug. Response: "Huawei are aware of the bug as we raised it with them. If you zoom in 10x you can't focus on anything close up either. "
So I really, really appreciate a solitary voice of reason.
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Thank you very much for stating this.
Central problem is people being unaware of the way cameras work.
In another thread, there was someone complaining about "unfocused" picture parts - parts in the background and foreground, outside the depth of field.
OF COURSE that parts are out of focus - because they are out of focus.
Even after lengthy explanations he wasn't willing to change his mind.
If they ain't got any bokeh, they complain about the flat pics. If they got bokeh, they complain about the pics not being flat.
Similar here: I see users complaining about the laws of nature. I guess I'd spend most of my time studying online instructions on how to make letter bombs if I worked at Huawei's customer support.
Right in this thread: I explained the camera behaves just the way it should be, there is NO bug. Response: "Huawei are aware of the bug as we raised it with them. If you zoom in 10x you can't focus on anything close up either. "
So I really, really appreciate a solitary voice of reason.
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THis isnt really a complain about the cameras, i fully understand how they work for the most part. However the focal distance for this phone isnt very good. Clearly this is by design....i wanted to now if others have the same issue. As its a step down from the previous p series -> non-sensical when releasing new and better versions.
. 131 bring a closecup feature which immitates macro photography. With proper lighting you can get similar results with p30 pro.
Even after the update, the close up is terrible. My Samsung s9+ could take incredible close-up pics... I'm quite shocked at the lack of capability
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Even after the update, the close up is terrible. My Samsung s9+ could take incredible close-up pics... I'm quite shocked at the lack of capability
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Could you tell me what's wrong with this unprocessed macro picture of a part of a 50 Euro banknote, taken this morning with my P40 Pro (still on firmware .121)? Anything terrible, shocking, incapable?
... one day later: "Still ruht der See." (peace everywhere) :laugh:
It's not even close and nothing focuses...
Firmware 131, btw
Dude if you have a focus problem it might be a faulty device nothing wrong with the rest of us
Mate no on here explains you right. They using pro mode for normal focus on a camera phone and no ones telling you. They are unbelievable ppl here only supporting a low software phone which cNt focus right on a normal distance with a simple tap. Every one here uses pro mode to get a subject completly focus.. And they happy for that
Don't you even listen to ppl here xda isn't so good any more as it was.. If focus was good huwaei will not try to fix it with updates
.. Also if P40 pro hasn't issues with sharpness huwaei will not try to fix it with updates... Here it is your next version update you w8ing for hope to fix all those problems with focus
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Mate no on here explains you right. They using pro mode for normal focus on a camera phone and no ones telling you.
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You know the Ten Commandments? - The ninth is "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour", or short: You shall not lie!
I didn't use the "Pro mode" because I cannot manually focus as there are no focusing aids like focus peaking.
I used the PLAIN NORMAL PHOTO MODE for that 50 Euro picture, nothing else.
By the way: "Pro mode" wouldn't help at all because you cannot overcome the physical limitations of the lens just by using a different software mode.
They are unbelievable ppl here only supporting a low software phone which cNt focus right on a normal distance with a simple tap. Every one here uses pro mode to get a subject completly focus.. And they happy for that
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Stop telling nonsense!
TRY FOR YOURSELF if it's possible to better focus on close objects using the "Pro mode". Surprise! You'll find out that it's EXACTLY THE SAME minimum focus distance.
I expect your public feedback on this. And I expect you saying "Sorry, I was wrong."
Don't you even listen to ppl here xda isn't so good any more as it was.. If focus was good huwaei will not try to fix it with updates
.. Also if P40 pro hasn't issues with sharpness huwaei will not try to fix it with updates...
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Nonsense again. Huawei implemented that "AI macro mode" because clueless people like you, not willing to listing, not willing to accept the laws of physics, won't stop ranting about things they don't understand and don't know how to cope with. So Huawei tries to find solutions even for those who don't know how to handle a camera correctly. This is a courtesy, not an admittance of faults.
I am really, really fed up with your non-stop *****ing about things working perfectly well.
It's not the P40 Pro making it wrong, it's you.
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Puffin617: Use normal photo mode with 5 x zoom. Increase the distance to your subject until it's properly focused, make sure your hands don't shake. Don't even try manual focusing in Pro mode, it's close to impossible due to the lack of focusing aids like focus peaking. That's something Huawei indeed screwed.