Help security/privacy question GrapheneOS (noob, beginner) - General Questions and Answers

Hello everybody, i am using Graphene OS and only FOSS apps and i have a question. Recently i see some Foss apps also have "trackers" like Duckduckgo browser for example. I want to choose which apps i can block the internet connection for + the communication wich each other + VPN. I tried to use a "firewall" like netguard to block internet connection from the apps whoem don't need it + trackercontrol to block the trackers from all the apps and OpenVPN to hide my IP adress. But i can't use these 3 apps at once because the phone recognize them all as an VPN. Does anyone have the solution for this for me?

Use Brave browser.

jwoegerbauer said:
Use Brave browser.
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That is only for tracking on web browsing. I am searching to block unwanted trackers on the background from the apps also

When you are on the Internet, data such as IIP address, browser type, operating system, etc.pp, are inevitably transported with. Even a VPN service - what is superior to a Proxy - get this data transmitted. And you never will really know what the VPN service is doing with these data - at least VPN services that are free-of-charge - and whether they themselves run Man in the Middle Attacks or not.
BTW: A Firewall protects a network’s resources from intrusion by users on another network such as the Internet. All networked and online Android users should implement a Firewall solution, IMO. If you have a rooted Android smartphone, you can use AFWall+ to control your device’s Internet activities. AFWall+ also allows users to control Internet access on a per-app basis.

jwoegerbauer said:
When you are on the Internet, data such as IIP address, browser type, operating system, etc.pp, are inevitably transported with. Even a VPN service - what is superior to a Proxy - get this data transmitted. And you never will really know what the VPN service is doing with these data - at least VPN services that are free-of-charge - and whether they themselves run Man in the Middle Attacks or not.
BTW: A Firewall protects a network’s resources from intrusion by users on another network such as the Internet. All networked and online Android users should implement a Firewall solution, IMO. If you have a rooted Android smartphone, you can use AFWall+ to control your device’s Internet activities. AFWall+ also allows users to control Internet access on a per-app basis.
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Thabk you very much for youre great advice. So if i understand it good it is VPN connection is not a top priority right? Is it also true that GrapheneOs creates every day another imei number? Is the firewall solution of AFWall+ not the same as Netguard? If no can you please tell me what the difference is. AFWall+ gives in Fdroid that it has antifunctions, also for a lot of other apps. Does that have also influence on privacy and security?

I don't
1. make use of VPNs
2. know anything about GraphenOS. Changing IMEI and/or Wi-Fi Mac Address on a per daily basis makes no sense for me
3. use NetGuard, never tried it

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Real Android firewall - doable? Does it exist?

DroidWall in the marketplace allows full WiFi access to all apps.
Is it possible to code an application for Android (perhaps with root access) that can:
- deny all outbound data access per app basis
- specify the rules (ip-range/port-range) per app basis
Like a real alternative to a desktop software firewall?
Way too many apps are leaking all sorts of information (in plain text!) from the user account database to the Internet.
The android security makes me really scared to use the platform for anything requiring security. The privacy/security model is basically a swiss cheese that can be poked through by almost any app that just asks for certain rights at install time.
I'm hoping a firewall would be able to limit this issue, no?
I don't know about the other stuff you mentioned, but my version of DroidWall has a block/allow option for wifi and 3g, separately. It's the latest version from the market place, 1.4.2
Thanks, I just checked it out and it seems DroidWall indeed has a Wifi side blocking by app basis as well. I'm still testing though.
Ah, just tried it. Force closes on Galaxy S (rooted). Sigh.

NoRoot Firewall privacy concerns, manipulation possible?

Hey folks,
I recently installed NoRoot Firewall and found it really interesting to dis/allow network traffic without root. The app uses a local VPN to tunnel traffic and selective adjust the access. It needs permission for startup and networkaccess, the dev says it only needs this for rooting issues (see in-app explanation). The funny thing is, the app runs perfectly even without the INTERNET permission.
Unfortunately, the app isn't open source, the dev is a ghost and it hasn't been audited for security flaws. Although on a German blog, a security specialist has partly audited it for 30 minutes using Wireshark and network analysis. This resulted in no unusual traffic and no manipulations (instead of Mobiwol firewall).
My concern is: Is the app able to manipulate the traffic, that's rooted through itself, to point it or copy it to another destination? I ask, because it even works without internet and wasn't manipulating traffic in the test I read. And if really sensitive data is routed through the app and it's possible to ship this data cloned to another place, it's really disturbing.
I hope someone is able to clarify the technical background.
Greetz
traceless said:
Hey folks,
I recently installed NoRoot Firewall and found it really interesting to dis/allow network traffic without root. The app uses a local VPN to tunnel traffic and selective adjust the access. It needs permission for startup and networkaccess, the dev says it only needs this for rooting issues (see in-app explanation). The funny thing is, the app runs perfectly even without the INTERNET permission.
Unfortunately, the app isn't open source, the dev is a ghost and it hasn't been audited for security flaws. Although on a German blog, a security specialist has partly audited it for 30 minutes using Wireshark and network analysis. This resulted in no unusual traffic and no manipulations (instead of Mobiwol firewall).
My concern is: Is the app able to manipulate the traffic, that's rooted through itself, to point it or copy it to another destination? I ask, because it even works without internet and wasn't manipulating traffic in the test I read. And if really sensitive data is routed through the app and it's possible to ship this data cloned to another place, it's really disturbing.
I hope someone is able to clarify the technical background.
Greetz
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Has Droidwall been tested?
crobjam said:
Has Droidwall been tested?
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Doesn't answer my question, but it's open source in contrast to NoRoot Firewall.
I use XPrivacy and it works OK without any additional bakdoors.
It has even more functions (blocking permissions for apps) for privacy protection.
Very good question OP.
This is a extremely useful app but I also would like to know about the possible risks involved.
One would assume that removing the internet access permission (thanks for that suggestion) would render the app harmless but I can't be sure...
EDIT: After removing the app's internet permission with APK Permission Remover I found that the app does run without any error message but it won't allow any app to connect to the internet whatsoever. Which I guess is totally logical since all connections are routed through NoRoot Firewall...
mp107 said:
I use XPrivacy and it works OK without any additional bakdoors.
It has even more functions (blocking permissions for apps) for privacy protection.
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with the difference that you need root..
I'm looking for no root firewall, NetGuard (alpha) seems to be the alternative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-netguard-root-firewall-t3233012
stpol77 said:
with the difference that you need root..
I'm looking for no root firewall, NetGuard (alpha) seems to be the alternative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-netguard-root-firewall-t3233012
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riesdepies said:
Very good question OP.
This is a extremely useful app but I also would like to know about the possible risks involved.
One would assume that removing the internet access permission (thanks for that suggestion) would render the app harmless but I can't be sure...
EDIT: After removing the app's internet permission with APK Permission Remover I found that the app does run without any error message but it won't allow any app to connect to the internet whatsoever. Which I guess is totally logical since all connections are routed through NoRoot Firewall...
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Xprivacy cannot block Android system internet access, as that breaks your internet connection. Another limitation is that it cannot restrict android native apps. So, you need a real firewall to deal with that.
Noroot firewall is a horrible concept: your internet traffic is routed through some unknown server. Whatever you send though the internet is totally exposed to any kind of attacks/exploits. Plus, the issue of open source vs. close is totally irrelevant as applied to servers: so what if they open source their server? You will never know whether that server was built out of that open source.
The only solution is a real firewall.
Please stop listening to dopes who tell you not to root your device. They have an agenda: most of them are either advertisers, spooks or Google employees. The argument that a user doesn't know what he/she is doing and therefore should not have root is false: every known operating system on Earth (windows, mac, linux et al) provides root access/administrative rights to a user. So, how is that the same PC/MAC/Linux user all of a sudden becomes a dummy when it comes to a smart phone? The answer is he does not. But when he gets root, he can restrict advertising, spooking and spying by Google, carriers, advertisers and others.
optimumpro said:
Noroot firewall is a horrible concept: your internet traffic is routed through some unknown server. Whatever you send though the internet is totally exposed to any kind of attacks/exploits. Plus, the issue of open source vs. close is totally irrelevant as applied to servers: so what if they open source their server? You will never know whether that server was built out of that open source.
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From what I understand, the concept of NoRoot Firewall isn't routing your traffic through an external server but using a local or virtual VPN as a firewall. The Android VPN service is only used to provide control over your connections. This was explained on their web page which now seems to have disappeared. The problem is that one shouldn't just take their word on this and that's why it is relevant that this program is not open source.
There's an interesting discussion on the subject here.
riesdepies said:
From what I understand, the concept of NoRoot Firewall isn't routing your traffic through an external server but using a local or virtual VPN as a firewall. The Android VPN service is only used to provide control over your connections. This was explained on their web page which now seems to have disappeared. The problem is that one shouldn't just take their word on this and that's why it is relevant that this program is not open source.
There's an interesting discussion on the subject here.
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If that were so, then why would users complain that NoRoot Firewall is increasingly being blocked by various services? That surely indicates a unique IP address, which is different from your mobile/wifi IPs. Android local vpn won't create a separate external IP address. I bet if you go to what's my ip, you will find a curious IP address.
I am always amused by people saying I am looking for a no root app when it comes to security. You just can't secure a system without administrative rights. This is like saying I need protection for my car, which has a habit of swerving around, but do it without using a steering wheel.
optimumpro said:
If that were so, then why would users complain that NoRoot Firewall is increasingly being blocked by various services? That surely indicates a unique IP address, which is different from your mobile/wifi IPs. Android local vpn won't create a separate external IP address. I bet if you go to what's my ip, you will find a curious IP address.
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I don't know where you read that 'NoRoot Firewall is increasingly being blocked by various services' but maybe it had to do with the fact that you can't use a VPN service while using NoRoot Firewall because it already uses the Android VPN functionality as a firewall.
I also verified my IP adress online and it does not change when I use NoRoot Firewall.
BTW, I am rooted because I like to have full control over my Android but I haven't come across a root firewall app with granular control like NoRoot Firewall. Do you have any suggestions?
I attached a screenshot of the app explaining itself and its permission.
stpol77 said:
with the difference that you need root..
I'm looking for no root firewall, NetGuard (alpha) seems to be the alternative
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-netguard-root-firewall-t3233012
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NetGuard is open source and very easily audited or checked - no Internet access itself.
It isn't as granular as other firewalls, but it has no battery drain, since the VPN service is only used for sinkholing traffic. So for now it's an all or nothing way to block an individual app from network access. There's more details in the thread, and the source is quite readable too.
Its using Vpn so its a power consuming app
Can anyone suggest best root app for restricting internet traffic to apps over wifi/mobile data. And also works as a VPN. The same option is there is noroot firewall. but from somehow from the above discussion, it is not 100% secure.
optimumpro said:
Xprivacy cannot block Android system internet access, as that breaks your internet connection. Another limitation is that it cannot restrict android native apps. So, you need a real firewall to deal with that.
Noroot firewall is a horrible concept: your internet traffic is routed through some unknown server. Whatever you send though the internet is totally exposed to any kind of attacks/exploits. Plus, the issue of open source vs. close is totally irrelevant as applied to servers: so what if they open source their server? You will never know whether that server was built out of that open source.
The only solution is a real firewall.
Please stop listening to dopes who tell you not to root your device. They have an agenda: most of them are either advertisers, spooks or Google employees. The argument that a user doesn't know what he/she is doing and therefore should not have root is false: every known operating system on Earth (windows, mac, linux et al) provides root access/administrative rights to a user. So, how is that the same PC/MAC/Linux user all of a sudden becomes a dummy when it comes to a smart phone? The answer is he does not. But when he gets root, he can restrict advertising, spooking and spying by Google, carriers, advertisers and others.
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Some of us are just stuck with phones that are locked up tight and can't root to begin with. So I to am looking for a no-root solution. Before this phone I had all the others rooted, when it was an option. I came across this in a search because I just got a gopro, and the app creates a wifi connection between the gopro and the phone. Soooo, if I'm driving with the gopro, the phone, and all other apps think it's on wifi. So while I'm controlling the camera, other apps like Pandora, Amazon Music, and the sort search and search for a connection on that wifi network that's only between phone and camera, and won't resort to mobile data as long as that connection exists. Anyway, calm down.... not everyone has an agenda. Rooting is indeed relatively simple, but it's also equally simple for someone who missed one detail to ruin their phone. Anyone that ever asked me about it, I'd help them and give them a good "what you need to know" before I show them how to make sure they understand how important it is to read read read. If I get the impression they're a little impatient, or this kind of thing goes over their head, I discourage them from rooting. Just because I care and would hate for them to ruin an expensive device.
Hey folks,
I recently signed up in this forum, and I'm aware of it's professionalism. First, I was a simple observer because I wanted to try to understand the basics and it wasn't not a long time I discovered Android.
I installed NoRoot Firewall. My smartphone is rooted and I also installed LightningWall.
I blocked (with LightningWall) outgoing and inbound access concerning "NoRoot Firewall", and NoRoot Firewall is running fine.
Is it the good action to be sure that NoRoot Firewall doesn't export my data to an external server ?
Or it's not the good action because NoRoot Firewall uses a VPN ?
Sorry if my first post is too basic.
I hope someone is able to answer me.
Due to my recent installation of app Network Log, I have examined the I/O on the Net made by NoRoot FireWall.
It appears (by examining the log) that NoRoot FireWall is making I/O on the Net, but unfortunately I can't determine if those I/O are on behalf of applications crossing NoRoot FireWall (through Android VPN functionality), or for app NoRoot FireWall itself.
I don't know how to determine it.
If anybody has an idea.
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Due to my recent installation of app Network Log, I have examined the I/O on the Net made by NoRoot FireWall.
It appears (by examining the log) that NoRoot FireWall is making I/O on the Net, but unfortunately I can't determine if those I/O are on behalf of applications crossing NoRoot FireWall (through Android VPN functionality), or for app NoRoot FireWall itself.
I don't know how to determine it.
If anybody has an idea.
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guys,
maybe we could just block the noroot firewall app itself in the app list from using data/wifi.
it's running fine for me.
micmaccc said:
guys,
maybe we could just block the noroot firewall app itself in the app list from using data/wifi.
it's running fine for me.
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Hi,
I blocked output of Noroot Firewall in the list of its controlled app.
I also blocked Noroot Firewall with LightningWall (input and output).
And I observed I/O made by Noroot Firewall in Internet, by using app NetworkLog (examining its log file).
I can't determine if I/O made by Noroot Firewall are really made by Noroot Firewall by itself, or for allowed app crossing Android VPN used by Noroot Firewall.
Is there a tool to determine it ?
Amusons-nous avant tout !
Hello. Please excuse the necro.
A few questions please:
I'm not a networking expert. I do not understand the difference between the pre- and post- filters. Does it need to be redundant, ie mirror the rules on both filters?
How do you know if it's incoming or outgoing?
Also, why is it that even if there is a rule blocking a domain, such as *.domain.comort, I still see a connection being requested?
micmaccc said:
guys,
maybe we could just block the noroot firewall app itself in the app list from using data/wifi.
it's running fine for me.
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How do you do this? I always thought blocking NoRoot from within NoRoot didn't make sense. Do I need to install another FW?
fpjones3 said:
Hello. Please excuse the necro.
A few questions please:
I'm not a networking expert. I do not understand the difference between the pre- and post- filters. Does it need to be redundant, ie mirror the rules on both filters?
How do you know if it's incoming or outgoing?
Also, why is it that even if there is a rule blocking a domain, such as *.domain.comort, I still see a connection being requested?
How do you do this? I always thought blocking NoRoot from within NoRoot didn't make sense. Do I need to install another FW?
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Install another FW dosen't make sense, because all traffic through NoRoot. The another FW can't recognize the network access by apps.
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iwanttoknow said:
Hey folks,
I recently signed up in this forum, and I'm aware of it's professionalism. First, I was a simple observer because I wanted to try to understand the basics and it wasn't not a long time I discovered Android.
I installed NoRoot Firewall. My smartphone is rooted and I also installed LightningWall.
I blocked (with LightningWall) outgoing and inbound access concerning "NoRoot Firewall", and NoRoot Firewall is running fine.
Is it the good action to be sure that NoRoot Firewall doesn't export my data to an external server ?
Or it's not the good action because NoRoot Firewall uses a VPN ?
Sorry if my first post is too basic.
I hope someone is able to answer me.
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You can think of it as a router on the network.

Can I make an app think I'm using a japan vpn without actually using it?

Hi, I'm a Samsung galaxy note 3 user, android version 4.4.2, I have it rooted, and xposed installed. I never installed xposed before but I installed it a couple of days ago and now I'm seeing that I can do a lot of things with it, and because of this I started wondering something.
Well, I have an app called Abematv which is a free japanese tv app that I can't use unless I connect through a japanese vpn. I do this by using an app called "japan vpn" and "openvpn connect for android". The problem with this is that sometimes is too slow and the video quality is very low. So I was wondering how could I make this app think I'm using a japanese vpn when I'm really connected to my home wifi without any vpn.
I don't know if this can be done but it sounds like it's the kind of thing that you do through a xposed module. If there's a module that can do this, I don't know how to search for it. So if anyone knows how to do this via xposed or via whatever it makes it possible, please leave a comment
Thanks
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Hi, I'm a Samsung galaxy note 3 user, android version 4.4.2, I have it rooted, and xposed installed. I never installed xposed before but I installed it a couple of days ago and now I'm seeing that I can do a lot of things with it, and because of this I started wondering something.
Well, I have an app called Abematv which is a free japanese tv app that I can't use unless I connect through a japanese vpn. I do this by using an app called "japan vpn" and "openvpn connect for android". The problem with this is that sometimes is too slow and the video quality is very low. So I was wondering how could I make this app think I'm using a japanese vpn when I'm really connected to my home wifi without any vpn.
I don't know if this can be done but it sounds like it's the kind of thing that you do through a xposed module. If there's a module that can do this, I don't know how to search for it. So if anyone knows how to do this via xposed or via whatever it makes it possible, please leave a comment
Thanks
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Ok well first things first. Don't mention lucky patcher here. It is banned as a Warez app and app developers will add code to that purposely causes issues if it is detected.
Depending in how it is getting your location you could make the device think it is in Japan. Something like mocking the Gps.
zelendel said:
Ok well first things first. Don't mention lucky patcher here. It is banned as a Warez app and app developers will add code to that purposely causes issues if it is detected.
Depending in how it is getting your location you could make the device think it is in Japan. Something like mocking the Gps.
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Hi, I eddited the message so the words don't appear. (would be good if you edit your message so the words don't appear there too, I don't want troubles xD) Thanks.
About the gps thing, I think it doesn't use the gps since I have it disabled and the app doesn't have the permission to get the location, so I think it gets the location based on the ip.
Not all VPN services are the same. Your current VPN service may be slow because it has you connecting through Japan. Nice VPN services allow you to connect to a VPN server in your country while they route your country VPN server to the final destination VPN server. This allows you to sometimes benefit with improved connection speeds. You can do free trials with most VPN services and I recommend maybe moving to another.
Example: Normal VPN> your-device->VPN server in japan->your-device
(upload/download limits determined by home network and ISP max connections)
Higher end VPN> your-device->local VPN->VPN server in japan->local VPN->your-device
(upload/download limit between VPNs determined by VPN servers which maximize limits before passing the information to your local device)
Other info relevant to the topic:
There are many options available to a developer to verify your location in today's internet.
Even your browser for your device has a unique "fingerprint" and if your gps or IP location changes they can still verify it's coming from the same device.
There are ways around browser fingerprinting.
With most programs, there is an order or hierarchy of testing your location. Spoofing your GPS may overrule an IP check. To overcome issues it's important to try and test and try even when met with failures. It's important to not be dismissive of possible solutions when troubleshooting an issue or searching for a work-around.
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Not all VPN services are the same. Your current VPN service may be slow because it has you connecting through Japan. Nice VPN services allow you to connect to a VPN server in your country while they route your country VPN server to the final destination VPN server. This allows you to sometimes benefit with improved connection speeds. You can do free trials with most VPN services and I recommend maybe moving to another.
Example: Normal VPN> your-device->VPN server in japan->your-device
(upload/download limits determined by home network and ISP max connections)
Higher end VPN> your-device->local VPN->VPN server in japan->local VPN->your-device
(upload/download limit between VPNs determined by VPN servers which maximize limits before passing the information to your local device)
Other info relevant to the topic:
There are many options available to a developer to verify your location in today's internet.
Even your browser for your device has a unique "fingerprint" and if your gps or IP location changes they can still verify it's coming from the same device.
There are ways around browser fingerprinting.
With most programs, there is an order or hierarchy of testing your location. Spoofing your GPS may overrule an IP check. To overcome issues it's important to try and test and try even when met with failures. It's important to not be dismissive of possible solutions when troubleshooting an issue or searching for a work-around.
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ok thanks, I will try to spoof the gps and will comment how it worked .

Best Adblocking solutions for rooted phone, no VPN?

I know the title is rather generic and not strictly related to OP7, but I didn't know where else to post, and as this applies to my OP7, I thought to post here.
OP7
OOS 10.0.7
Rooted, Magisk+TWRP
So far I have been using Blokada to stop ads and it's been a bliss, but the limitation of Android to only run one VPN at a time makes using another VPN a compromise.
Recently I decided to use NordVPN, but as the situation stays now, I must choose between really no ads (Blokada), or NordVPN, but rely on Nord's as filtering which isn't really doing much.
Can you recommend me some reliable Adblocking solutions for rooted phone that can work in parallel with NordVPN and do equally good job as Blokada is doing? I need to block apps across the whole system (apps, websites).
P.S. using YouTube Vanced, so that one is sorted.
Energized magisk module, energized.pro for info on which version best suits you
Adguard dns without any app
Isn't DNS ad-blocking problematic? I've been reading that apps and websites can detect ad- locking DNS and act strangely.
Also, some ISP may not like some DNS... What has been your experience with DNS Adblocking so far?
Hi
I'm using OP7T OOS Beta 7 at the moment. I've been using Blokada for a short time and liked it a lot. But a minor was indeed not being able to combine it with a VPN from another provider. So I tried Blokada VPN. I had the feeling that it was working smoother than the VPN I'm always using. And I like the way they handle accounts. So you could use Blokada and VPN together if you pay for the VPN from Blokada.
So what stopped me using it? Having a long time subscription at NordVPN. I'm not using a vpn much lately. My setup is as follows:
- setup private dns under settings-networks-private dns: dns.adguard.com
- setup Adaway from FDroid (you need root)
- setup NordVPN. Beware to use the apk from the website and not from the Play Store. Only the apk from the website has working cybersec functionality. It can be used together with Adaway.
I've no problems using a dns server that blocks ads and malware. Neither do I have problems using hosts file based blocking like Adaway. Besides that I'm using browsers like Privacy Browser, Firefox nightly, Bromite and ungoogled chromium. And I try not to use apps with ads.
SvenC said:
- setup private dns under settings-networks-private dns: dns.adguard.com
- setup Adaway from FDroid (you need root)
- setup NordVPN. Beware to use the apk from the website and not from the Play Store. Only the apk from the website has working cybersec functionality. It can be used together with Adaway.
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Thanks, I made the same setup... Seems less strict compared to Blokada, but this I am sure is just a matter of hosts list in adaway.
Do you recommend any hosts in particular besides the ones already in Adaway?
Also, what kind of apps do you split tunnel in NordVPN? Or no need? Everything working as it should?
derei said:
Thanks, I made the same setup... Seems less strict compared to Blokada, but this I am sure is just a matter of hosts list in adaway.
Do you recommend any hosts in particular besides the ones already in Adaway?
Also, what kind of apps do you split tunnel in NordVPN? Or no need? Everything working as it should?
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Be sure to update hosts file in Adaway regularly. I haven't changed any sources in Adaway. Just the standard setup. It blocks system wide and I don't want it to be too strict. Maybe I want to reach a domain sometimes on some site without hassle. You can start up "dns log"in Adaway and then just use your phone like you always do. It then monitors every request. After a while you can go back to Adaway to view which requests occurred. From there you can block domains that were allowed. Or allow domains that were blocked.
I'm not using vpn a lot lately as I'm in my home country. I use it especially when I'm abroad in less privacy conscious countries. That's why I haven't split anything. But I would just it more, I would split apps like Signal private messenger which are end to end encrypted, and apps that don't seem to work well going through the vpn tunnel.
If you are really concerned about your privacy/ISP, then you should setup VPN always on, or force apps to use vpn tunnel by using a firewall. Although opinions differ on this. To me that's overkill anyway. Do you have apps still showing ads? Or do you mean ads while browsing websites?
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Do you have apps still showing ads? Or do you mean ads while browsing websites?
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Yes, some apps are still showing placeholders. Didn't check all apps...but with Blokada I didn't even have the placeholders. Isn't a big nuisance, but if I can find a solution for it, for the better.
As for vpn usage... i just made some network speed tests... what do you see... it was better over the vpn. For some reason my isp was throttling my mobile (weird). So, I decided to allow NordVPN to always connect to the fastest server.
About tunneling, I was interested if any app misbehaves when on vpn (for example Netflix, or banking apps, if you personally encountered some issue).
derei said:
Yes, some apps are still showing placeholders. Didn't check all apps...but with Blokada I didn't even have the placeholders. Isn't a big nuisance, but if I can find a solution for it, for the better.
As for vpn usage... i just made some network speed tests... what do you see... it was better over the vpn. For some reason my isp was throttling my mobile (weird). So, I decided to allow NordVPN to always connect to the fastest server.
About tunneling, I was interested if any app misbehaves when on vpn (for example Netflix, or banking apps, if you personally encountered some issue).
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I keep apps with ads at a minimum, so probably that's why I haven't any problems like that. I remember having problems setting up Payconiq and Transferwise while on vpn. After finishing the setup, only Transferwise still gives problems while on vpn. I don't have streaming or social apps besides Telegram and Keybase.
That said, if I didn't have a subscription from NordVPN, I would use Blokada and pay for its vpn. Everything in one app. But in case speed is important, probably Nord is a better option.
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Isn't DNS ad-blocking problematic? I've been reading that apps and websites can detect ad- locking DNS and act strangely.
Also, some ISP may not like some DNS... What has been your experience with DNS Adblocking so far?
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You may have the same problems you have with VPN apps, I have not had any problems for the moment and I have been using dns adguard for some time ... once there was a problem in the server and they crashed but just set '' automatic dns' 'until the problem is solved. In any case, if you don't have root the only way is vpn or dns
I tried the Magisk module Energized but couldn't make it work. I got an error that it was not compatible although I had systemless hosts installed. Otherwise it seemed promising.
I'm testing another app now: Nebulo. At first sight I like it very much. But don't download it from Google Play cause that's a very limited version. Downloading it from Aurora Droid seems the easiest way. It's like Blokada, but I like it more. You can add packages to block ads. And the choice is large. You have a lot of dns servers to choose from. You can test the speed of the servers. Not just a ping test, but a revolution test. You can use cache to avoid sending the same dns requests over and over to the server; to speed up browsing. And a lot of other settings. Worth taking a look at.
Tried Magisk module energized.pro module on another ROM with success now. Using private DNS settings in android combined with that module. My favorite setup at the moment.

Question Question on privacy

My knowledge is limited.And I wonder,
A non-rooted A53 with default stock rom, removed bloatware, with usage only of open source apps, NetGuard VPN with allowence only to few used apps and all system stuff blocked. How private is this?
I know that networks have layers, and VPN works on an upper layer, where it cannot block traffic happening on lower levels.
But I'm just curious?
What is the most private configuration set you can have with non-rooted stock rom?
And there is that meta app (com.facebook.appmanager), it can be disabled with ADB...
The most private should be disabling the internet use and never enabling or using it. Other words, factory reset and don't sign into wifi and have no sim card then sideload any apps and that will be private.
Privacy of what you state will involve various data and info being spread around. Even open source can include malware, etc. Its been done before. VPN should be able to glean certain info. Etc. There's no easy way to say exactly how private it is or not. It all depends on various factors.
If you're that concerned about privacy, try a privacy centric OS like CalyxOS or GrapheneOS

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