Root / magisk vs bootloader? - OnePlus 8 Questions & Answers

Hello guys!
I'm fine with oxygen OS and I migrated all my data from previous phone, now I realized that I need root for few features, so the question is... Is there any way to get root and magister without factory reset/ wiping data?
Thanks in advance
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remialfa said:
Hello guys!
I'm fine with oxygen OS and I migrated all my data from previous phone, now I realized that I need root for few features, so the question is... Is there any way to get root and magister without factory reset/ wiping data?
Thanks in advance
Device IN2010
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No. You can try make backup with titanium backup to minimize afterwipe restoration.

vip77 said:
No. You can try make backup with titanium backup to minimize afterwipe restoration.
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I see... One more question does this factory reset wipe also phone data like photos and everything that is on memory or it only wipes system?

Can anybody help?

remialfa said:
I see... One more question does this factory reset wipe also phone data like photos and everything that is on memory or it only wipes system?
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It wipes everything. Happy modding!

Unlocking the Bootloader is a complete Data wipe!!

remialfa said:
Can anybody help?
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And actually there are one-click root apps that, if they find an exploit, use it to root. But afaik they're very rare by now, and those apps are extremely sketchy (like kingo root,...). So if you come across one WHATEVER YOU DO do NOT install it and use it.

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Files Not Being Recognized

I have a Nexus 5 that I have had since December that has been functioning flawlessly (Google replacement for my last one with busted glass)
I have not done anything to this device (no hacking, no ROMSs, no rooting), beside replace the battery....
A few days ago, I noticed that a bunch of my "custom" ringtones were not working anymore. They just stopped showing up on the ringtone picker. The same goes for my "custom" alarm tones. I also noticed that when I go to attach a picture (to a hangout message, or SMS) that the "Recent" category shows only 1 or 2 pictures (instead of all recent pics). However, when I use RootExplorer and look at the directories, all of the files are there. The ringtones, alarms, pictures, etc. In fact the only pictures that are showing up under the "Recent" category are the ones that have been taken since I began having the problem.
There is also some other weird things happening, like I have lost some contact pictures and the phone has been acting weird.
This phone got the 5.1 update and I have already tried to wipe the /cache partition. Again, all files are there, but Android is not recognizing them...
Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Try doing factory reset
Isus <3 said:
Try doing factory reset
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Yeah, I will eventually try that but I was hoping that someone had a magic :fingers-crossed: fix that would be a little easier...
TaterTot24 said:
Yeah, I will eventually try that but I was hoping that someone had a magic :fingers-crossed: fix that would be a little easier...
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If you're afraid of losing data just use applications to store it. Like titanium backup
Isus <3 said:
If you're afraid of losing data just use applications to store it. Like titanium backup
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I guess I was just hesitant because this is the 1st phone I have had that does not have an actual "SD card" so I was not sure how it would work...
Also, the phone is not rooted -- not sure if that matters
TaterTot24 said:
I guess I was just hesitant because this is the 1st phone I have had that does not have an actual "SD card" so I was not sure how it would work...
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Store pictures at Google photos app or use Dropbox, and for data and applications use titanium backup
Isus <3 said:
Store pictures at Google photos app or use Dropbox, and for data and applications use titanium backup
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Does it have to be rooted? -- this is a Stock Nexus 5
TaterTot24 said:
Does it have to be rooted? -- this is a Stock Nexus 5
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You need for titanium backup but for photos you don't.
Isus <3 said:
You need for titanium backup but for photos you don't.
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So to keep from loosing app data, I need to use Ti Backup -- but to use Ti Backup I need to have root access...
In order to get root access, I will have to wipe my phone and loose my app data.... -- Sounds like a never-ending feedback loop
This is why I wanted to wait to do a factory reset
TaterTot24 said:
So to keep from loosing app data, I need to use Ti Backup -- but to use Ti Backup I need to have root access...
In order to get root access, I will have to wipe my phone and loose my app data.... -- Sounds like a never-ending feedback loop [emoji14]
This is why I wanted to wait to do a factory reset
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If you have unlocked bootloader then you don't need to wipe your device for root
Isus <3 said:
If you have unlocked bootloader then you don't need to wipe your device for root
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Ok, I guess I need to do some research on that then... Not sure how to tell if the bootloader is unlocked
Most of the stuff I looked at said it would wipe all data... Any links/suggestions on using the unlocked bootloader?
TaterTot24 said:
Ok, I guess I need to do some research on that then... Not sure how to tell if the bootloader is unlocked
Most of the stuff I looked at said it would wipe all data... Any links/suggestions on using the unlocked bootloader?
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If you don't know how to see that then probably it's locked because it comes locked out of the box. So I'm afraid you will have to wipe your device data to fix your issue. If you're still wondering how to see that you must turn off your device and hold volume down + power button, phone will turn on and green Android will appear. At the bottom you will see lock state of bootloader

Maintaining Data Throughout the Root Process

Hi there!
My brother has a Z5 which he has been using for quite some time. Recently he's been wanting to root it and he's asked me to do it. From what I understand, since he's on MM, I'll need to downgrade his firmware to backup DRM files and unlock the bootloader and such, and this process will involve erasing all his data. My question is, is there any way to root without losing data, or failing that, is there any way to back up his apps/app data/conversations/contacts/etc prior to the process? TB doesn't seem to work without root. I noticed there was a built-in Xperia backup tool but I was unsure how good a job this did at backing up all app data and such. Thanks!
Have you tried Kingroot. Just downgrade to ? with flash tool and try Kingroot.
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CarteNoir said:
Hi there!
My brother has a Z5 which he has been using for quite some time. Recently he's been wanting to root it and he's asked me to do it. From what I understand, since he's on MM, I'll need to downgrade his firmware to backup DRM files and unlock the bootloader and such, and this process will involve erasing all his data. My question is, is there any way to root without losing data, or failing that, is there any way to back up his apps/app data/conversations/contacts/etc prior to the process? TB doesn't seem to work without root. I noticed there was a built-in Xperia backup tool but I was unsure how good a job this did at backing up all app data and such. Thanks!
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STreeTNerD said:
Have you tried Kingroot. Just downgrade to ðŸ* with flash tool and try Kingroot.
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From the flashing I've done, in order to downgrade to LP, you're going to have to wipe all partitions to get the device to boot. You can try downgrading the firmware without wiping anything, but when I tried that I ended up stuck in a bootloop and the only way to resolve it was to flash the LP firmware and wipe everything.
So the short answer you're going to need to figure out a way to backup the data before you try to downgrade the firmware. That said, there is a tool that will backup the TA on firmware before the November patch, maybe you should try that first. Once you decide to unlock the bootloader, it will wipe all data so again, see if you can figure out a way to backup data before unlocking the bootloader.
Is there some data in particular you're trying to backup? A lot of stuff is saved to the cloud or there are other backup apps that might be able to backup certain data.
EDIT: Have you looked at Helium? I've never used it but it might be able to do what you're looking for.

Forgot unlock password

Hi, I have forgot my password for unlocking the phone and now I need help because I dont want to restore it and loosing all the data (pictures and so on). Is there any way, please helpp
I think the only solution is to factory reset from recovery, if you can do that.
SORRY.. i think factory reset is the only way..
also i heard another way which requires twrp to be installed , but i dont recomend it, bcause it caused some serious problems to some ppl..
Do you maybe know if there is any possibility for me to recover the lost photos after?
Anastazija91 said:
Do you maybe know if there is any possibility for me to recover the lost photos after?
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Unlocking the boot loader to flash TWRP wipes the phone. Factory reset wipes the phone. Bottom line don't forget the password
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clsA said:
Unlocking the boot loader to flash TWRP wipes the phone. Factory reset wipes the phone. Bottom line don't forget the password
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Thanks anyway
Yeah sadly with Android 5.0+ you need root to get rid of any lockscreen security. The only way is to factory reset if you want to remove it. But sadly as mentioned rooting would wipe the phone since you have to unlock the bootloader.
Anastazija91 said:
Thanks anyway
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it's good if you think about it ... what if a stranger wanted to get your photo's txt and contacts ?
that's the whole point in having the password in the first place

ROOT NOUGAT ? - CF-AutoRoot For Nougat ?

Hello everyone , i just flashed Nougat on my S7 and i can't find CF AUTOROOT to root it , i tried the TWRP way but no succes for me i always end up in bootloop and flash all overgain so
H-banGG said:
Hello everyone , i just flashed Nougat on my S7 and i can't find CF AUTOROOT to root it , i tried the TWRP way but no succes for me i always end up in bootloop and flash all overgain so
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I'm wondering now, myself, because I flashed Nougat and I figure Root would be nice to have.
Kilva said:
I'm wondering now, myself, because I flashed Nougat and I figure Root would be nice to have.
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Hi
Root is possible on Nougat but you need TWRP , follow all steps 1-10
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770
MAX 404 said:
Hi
Root is possible on Nougat but you need TWRP , follow all steps 1-10
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770
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Does this require starting over or could I restore a backup I made today?
Kilva said:
Does this require starting over or could I restore a backup I made today?
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mate , do not know what you mean
backup , what backup ??
Please explain in detail
I think he means that he has backed up in TWRP before trying to root.
Every time I try to flash with twrp I get stuck in a bootloop or in the recovery with the /data error.
Best of luck to you. Please let me know if you find a way. Thanks
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mate , do not know what you mean
backup , what backup ??
Please explain in detail
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LOL... Who cares what backup I'm talking about? That's irrelevant to the question, which was "does this require starting over?"
Let me try asking again, I suppose.
Does this require [mean that I'll need to be] starting over [Reformatting/wiping all data on device; 'starting' from factory settings] or could I restore a backup [the copied data from my phone to another device, in order to restore data] I made [after rooting with the method you posted]?
Kilva said:
LOL... Who cares what backup I'm talking about? That's irrelevant to the question, which was "does this require starting over?"
Let me try asking again, I suppose.
Does this require [mean that I'll need to be] starting over [Reformatting/wiping all data on device; 'starting' from factory settings] or could I restore a backup [the copied data from my phone to another device, in order to restore data] I made [after rooting with the method you posted]?
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Relevant is to ask correctly , to the point and give relevant information , this is not the mind reading section of the forum
what kind of backup you made? Titanium?
What data you mean , user data or apps data?
If you followed the procedure in post 3 the same in both telephones( same model) and both have the same firmware restoring app and settings , user data should be possible ...data of those apps i would not restore .
MAX 404 said:
Relevant is to ask correctly , to the point and give relevant information , this is not the mind reading section of the forum
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Ask correctly? ...You what mate? You've just proven in that post that I did ask correctly, because you gave me my answer. I gave exactly enough information for you to give me the answer I needed, you did not need anything else:
MAX 404 said:
[if] both have the same firmware restoring app and settings , user data should be possible ...data of those apps i would not restore .
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That is all I was looking for, and I thank you for that. To humor you I shall give more information now.
MAX 404 said:
what kind of backup you made? Titanium?
What data you mean , user data or apps data?
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Does this imply that one backup may not restore data in this case while another may? I used SmartSwitch on a PC, Titanium wouldn't let me back up without root. Are you implying that it matters which backup program I use?
I wasn't planning to back up app data such as game progress, just apps, user settings and files.
I've already started from factory 3 times on this phone and I simply didn't want to go through settings again.
Regardless I think this gives me the information I needed, I wouldn't feel so bad about restarting my phone again just to root it, if I can get all my settings and files back.
Kilva said:
Ask correctly? ...You what mate? You've just proven in that post that I did ask correctly, because you gave me my answer. I gave exactly enough information for you to give me the answer I needed, you did not need anything else:
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WOW , thanks for your comments I'll make a note of that....
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WOW ,
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I'm not sure what you're getting offended about. I'm just trying to be straight to the point. This is the internet and sarcasm doesn't portray well so if you really want to take notes, don't you think this exchange would have been ideal? :fingers-crossed:
Kilva said:
Does this require starting over or could I restore a backup I made today?
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MAX 404 said:
[if] both have the same firmware restoring app and settings , user data should be possible ...data of those apps i would not restore .
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Kilva said:
Thank you!!
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Is there any way to root without losing data. I am running latest Nougat
Thank you
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oscar682 said:
Is there any way to root without losing data. I am running latest Nougat
Thank you
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Do you mean keeping the encrypted data from the stock firmware? If so, then no. Root always changes the encryption keys. Even the methods that allow root + encryption still require a wipe at first.

Help Please. How to root S8+ Exynos G955FD?

I am using S8+ Exynos G955FD. So guys I have done rooting, flashing on samsung and other phones before. Can someone guide me about how to root this device. My phone has been on for more than 7 days so oem unlock is enabled. Build number is R16NW.G955FXXS4CRIA
I tried searching but those threads were more than a year old.
Mustafa Jafri said:
I am using S8+ Exynos G955FD. So guys I have done rooting, flashing on samsung and other phones before. Can someone guide me about how to root this device. My phone has been on for more than 7 days so oem unlock is enabled. Build number is R16NW.G955FXXS4CRIA
I tried searching but those threads were more than a year old.
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Which threads were you looking at? so I can point you in the right direction.
In the mean time I would not reboot your phone as you will more than likely relock your bootloader.
spawnlives said:
Which threads were you looking at? so I can point you in the right direction.
In the mean time I would not reboot your phone as you will more than likely relock your bootloader.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/guide-how-to-install-twrp-root-galaxy-t3752492
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/root-sm-g955f-fd-g955fxxu1aqg5-t3652038
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-exynos-t3594756
Okay I wont reboot my device, waiting for a reply till then. One more thing is it necessary to wipe data? I mean is there any way to save the data and restore it later or something else I could do!
Mustafa Jafri said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/guide-how-to-install-twrp-root-galaxy-t3752492
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/how-to/root-sm-g955f-fd-g955fxxu1aqg5-t3652038
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/recovery-twrp-galaxy-s8-exynos-t3594756
Okay I wont reboot my device, waiting for a reply till then. One more thing is it necessary to wipe data? I mean is there any way to save the data and restore it later or something else I could do!
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Try this thread it is a bit more up to date. It includes info about RMM state and has a link to the latest zip file. As for rooting I would suggest using magisk.
Also use:
Latest Odin 3.13.1
Latest twrp 3.2.3.2 for the s8+
Latest no-verity-,opt- encrypt ver 6.0
As for the data wiping issue it is necessary to format data in twrp . For backing up apps/data you could try smart switch or an app from playstore. I generally use twrp for my backups but I do have titanium backup as well but it does require root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535
spawnlives said:
Try this thread it is a bit more up to date. It includes info about RMM state and has a link to the latest zip file. As for rooting I would suggest using magisk.
Also use:
Latest Odin 3.13.1
Latest twrp 3.2.3.2 for the s8+
Latest no-verity-,opt- encrypt ver 6.0
As for the data wiping issue it is necessary to format data in twrp . For backing up apps/data you could try smart switch or an app from playstore. I generally use twrp for my backups but I do have titanium backup as well but it does require root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535
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Thanks I'll try it. Then I guess I'll backup with either helium or smart switch.
Wanted to ask one more thing. Why did you suggest magisk, I have always used SuperSU so just thats why asking.
Edit: Thank you very much, now my phone is rooted. Used magisk for rooting and Smart Switch for backup and restore data
Mustafa Jafri said:
Thanks I'll try it. Then I guess I'll backup with either helium or smart switch.
Wanted to ask one more thing. Why did you suggest magisk, I have always used SuperSU so just thats why asking.
Edit: Thank you very much, now my phone is rooted. Used magisk for rooting and Smart Switch for backup and restore data
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Hi Mustafa,
Helium does not backup all apps data (some yes and some no)
Smart switch does not backup any apps data (only backup and restore the apps without the data)
so how you managed this (Smart Switch for backup and restore data) or you mean the apps without its data (settings and games levels)?
Which steps and files exactly you used to root? did you wipe every data on phone?

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