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Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
I ordered from SamsungUK.. lets see if they honor the order.
i am checking into this place.
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
I'll wait for the Duos version a month later from start shipping, I'm using exynos galaxy/notes from the note 2 .
biship said:
It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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I'm not sure. i've never bought intl phone.
I have written to the samsung UK web page and they told me the sim free phone is "locked" to unnlocked you muts make a 5 minut call to a number but from the place the phone was intended to sell, the UK
When you do the checkout on Clove store, you can choose this option: "Samsung’s region lock stops use of this handset within your chosen country unless activated with a European SIM. I agree for Clove Technology to break the seal on the box, activate the phone and remove the region lock by completing a 5 minute call on the handset."
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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It's that site correct that the F must first be activated in the E E A?
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Doubt it. Every year on release there is this region lock, but when I get my phones, they're never region locked.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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Oh this sounds more like it. I've never had to deal with region lock..
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osmosizzz said:
Where are all the people that will be using the exynos variant in the US? I have been using international unlocked (F models) sammy phones since the s6 and I plan on sticking to this model. Where you guys ordering from? I usually get it from ebay (usually never-msrp) but it seems I might have to hold on a little longer as $970 for an 8+ is a little high.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
BarryH_GEG said:
Clove is great and I ordered a S8+ from them too. I've ordered previous phones and accessories from them. They ship DHL overnight. Yes, EU phones are equipped with region lock to prevent them from being used outside their assigned selling region. You have to make a 5 minute phone call using a SIM from the phone's home region to unlock it. That's what Clove's doing for their international customers.
There are pros to buying from authorized resellers like Clove. EU phones have a two year warranty and Clove will act as a middleman on your behalf to get warranty work done if your phone ever needs it. You send it to them and they manage it through getting repaired and sent back to you. Having a "real" BTU phone is great for those that don't want to screw around with ODIN and multi-CSC to get updates. BTU is typically one of the first EU regions to get updates. We in the U.S. are lucky to get two for the life of the phone.
Only possible downside is getting Samsung Pay working since the framework isn't pre-installed as the UK doesn't currently support Samsung Pay. I've read the forums and some have gotten some of the features of Samsung Pay working on the S7-series but it's not a guarantee. I have a pre-order with AT&T and an order with Clove. I'm still debating which to go with primarily because I'm a heavy Samsung Pay user.
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I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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No I never got Samsung pay to work on the international model. But recently I think they got it to work on the s7 edge somehow.
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Question. Do you ever get samsung pay to work on those models ?. or samsung pay is something you never really use or cared for ?
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PuffinNugz said:
I've got a samsung watch and use samsung pay through it with a Nexus 6P. Think I would be able to do the same with the S8? I use android pay also, so not being able to use samsung pay would not be a deal breaker.
The thing has has me confused about clove is that the device seems to be good bit less expensive than anywhere else. Cost for the S8+ with shipping is only 665 GBP ($829) as opposed to 779 GBP ($971) from Samsung UK site. Is that correct?
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I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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osmosizzz said:
I just checked clover and the price they showed me was 970 usd once I converted it (771 British pounds). That includes vat and shipping.
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When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
PuffinNugz said:
When I selected US for shipping, it automatically deleted the VAT option and lowered to 665 pounds. What exactly is VAT and why would I want it?
Nevermind, I see it's a tax, but it removed itself when I selected the US.
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I just did it on my Computer and you're right..its cheaper than anywhere else. I may just pick it up now
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
The phone says it supports: LTE Bands 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(AWS), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700)
And ATT Uses 2, 4, 5, 17 1900, 1700 abcde, 700 bc
So would the internation phone support ATT LTE?
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Just a Newbee question here in regards to using the international models in the US. I am guessing that these international phone can only support GSM here in the US - no LTE on any US carrier.
I get that the international boot loader might be unlocked, and the international phones seem to come carrier unlocked. But if you don't travel international all the time and just live in the US - don't you guy miss the LTE speeds? Or is there any international models that support say ATT LTE bands?
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LTE works.
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LTE works.
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Thanks for the education! I usually buy TMOB as in the past they have unlocked bootloaders and LTE works on ATT. But if I read the tea leaves correctly, TMOB might be changing that for the S8. I guess no one knows for sure yet for the S8, but generally speaking, have the boot loaders on past Sammy international models usually unlocked?
The axynos ones are cheap on ebay, but I can also buy an unlocked US version from Samsungs website.
Can you advice me on this?
I'm coming from the LG V20 side with the unlocked US996 model, and just looked at the non-existent G6 forums so please keep it in mind as I say this: I will never ever ever buy a major branded Android phone unlocked, ever again.
Signed, a likely future S8+ owner
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I'm coming from the LG V20 side with the unlocked US996 model, and just looked at the non-existent G6 forums so please keep it in mind as I say this: I will never ever ever buy a major branded Android phone unlocked, ever again.
Signed, a likely future S8+ owner
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? Why ???
The exynos have an unlocked bootloader, the "unlocked" other version only has unlocked sim. The exynos will allow root, however root trips knox, and therefore breaks Samsung Pay.
I'm using a UK version and it's pretty flawless. Samsung Pay works out of the box. I bought it from a UK authorized reseller so its got a two year warranty (in the UK - I pay to ship it there) and BTU is typically in front of the line for updates. It has no bloatware but none of the unlocked versions do. I had a AT&T version first and the Exynos version seems a tad more fluid and responsive.
It has all AT&T's LTE bands except for 30 and gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T version. Do a search, there's a thread on it.
I'm going to sell it when the Note8 comes out and it was cheaper to buy outright and will fetch more when I resell it. I liked it so much I bought a EU LTE Tab S3 to keep it company. It doesn't do VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling but that too is common to unlocked phones.
BarryH_GEG said:
I'm using a UK version and it's pretty flawless. Samsung Pay works out of the box. I bought it from a UK authorized reseller so its got a two year warranty (in the UK - I pay to ship it there) and BTU is typically in front of the line for updates. It has no bloatware but none of the unlocked versions do. I had a AT&T version first and the Exynos version seems a tad more fluid and responsive.
It has all AT&T's LTE bands except for 30 and gets better LTE speeds than the AT&T version. Do a search, there's a thread on it.
I'm going to sell it when the Note8 comes out and it was cheaper to buy outright and will fetch more when I resell it. I liked it so much I bought a EU LTE Tab S3 to keep it company. It doesn't do VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling but that too is common to unlocked phones.
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I want to get a phone with a care plan . Is there something like that in the states?
Hi All
I am in the UK and am about to buy the S3 Frontier... but my question is this - there seems to be at least 3 variants that I can find mentioned on the web - UK / US / International. In the UK the price on the UK device is about $400 and the US version is $299. I can get the UK model from a high street shop or online... but I also see much cheaper version on eBay... as low as $250. I checked the part number of one of the eBay ones and it is SM-R760NDAAXAR. What I cant seem to find is a detailed comparison of the UK, US and International Version.
The information I can find is conflicting and some say that the US version is LTE - which I understand means that it has a hard wired SIM card inside so it can connect to the cellular network directly with no phone. I think the UK one doesn't have this feature... which TBH I am not worried about.
I have also read that if I buy the US version I wont be able to get Android Pay working, etc. I have also read that if I get the International version it will update to UK via software update when it syncs with my S7.
Can anyone tell me if there is any issues with buying an out-of-region device as its tempting because they are about half the price than on the high street here in the UK.
Thanks in advance
Slimat
You should be able to flash SM-R760NDAAXAR with UK firmware but I'm not sure if Samsung Pay will be active.
Hey all,
Got some mixed messages when researching this so figured best to ask here. I am currently in Canada and potentially looking to purchase both a Galaxy tablet (S7 FE most likely or S7+) and Galaxy Watch 4 but wanted to know whether there would be any complications when I return back to the UK in a few days in terms of device functionality. I have a S21 Ultra (on O2 in the UK) so obviously want it all devices (tablet/watch/phone) to link through and work together. Any advice would be awesome!
Thanks!
I am trying to purchase Samsung S22 Ultra that is to be rooted and then used for a project (not used as a personal phone). It absolutely needs to be rooted.
I understand that the snapdragon versions sold in the US do not have an unlocked bootloader, and that exynos version is required that is sold outside of NA.
However, I had some bad luck already, I bought a European S22 Ultra from Ebay with exynos. I was able to unlock the bootloader.. But, I could not install custom firmware because custom binaries were blocked due to "remaining installment balance." This appears to be the Knox Guard lock added from companies or MDM activation, or if the phone was bought through Samsung Finance + and is not fully paid for. And it seems there is no way to bypass this KG. So I am out of luck on that phone.
I am wondering can someone recommend me a better place to purchase, and / or confirm that I can buy a new S22 Ultra (exynos) and will be able to install a custom firmware? I don't want to buy one again and have it not work out.
Or am I better off just giving up on the Samsung S22 Ultra? If that's the case, my main requirement for this phone is one that I can root easily, so maybe someone can recommend me an option that I should not have any trouble being able to root?
First things first, have you contacted the eBay vendor who sold you the phone? If the seller won't cooperate eBay has a buyer protection program.
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varcor said:
First things first, have you contacted the eBay vendor who sold you the phone? If the seller won't cooperate eBay has a buyer protection program.
eBay Money Back Guarantee
It’s automatic and covers your purchase price plus original shipping on eligible purchases* and there’s no extra fee for coverage. Follow these steps to get your refund.
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Thanks for the support.
Yes, but no where in the item description does it say this device does not have Knox Guard blocking custom firmwares. Seller can argue it was sold as described. It's kind of a niche thing, most buyers wouldn't care or know it exists. Also, I'm afraid it might be over 30 days since it arrived...
Also, I assume I have now voided the warranty on the phone now too, with the tinkering I have been doing.
I am also wondering if its possible that newest Samsung S22 Ulta's with exynos just all have Knox Guard installed and activated from Samsung. I am wondering if anyone can confirm that is not the case.
mattsasa said:
I am trying to purchase Samsung S22 Ultra that is to be rooted and then used for a project (not used as a personal phone). It absolutely needs to be rooted.
I understand that the snapdragon versions sold in the US do not have an unlocked bootloader, and that exynos version is required that is sold outside of NA.
However, I had some bad luck already, I bought a European S22 Ultra from Ebay with exynos. I was able to unlock the bootloader.. But, I could not install custom firmware because custom binaries were blocked due to "remaining installment balance." This appears to be the Knox Guard lock added from companies or MDM activation, or if the phone was bought through Samsung Finance + and is not fully paid for. And it seems there is no way to bypass this KG. So I am out of luck on that phone.
I am wondering can someone recommend me a better place to purchase, and / or confirm that I can buy a new S22 Ultra (exynos) and will be able to install a custom firmware? I don't want to buy one again and have it not work out.
Or am I better off just giving up on the Samsung S22 Ultra? If that's the case, my main requirement for this phone is one that I can root easily, so maybe someone can recommend me an option that I should not have any trouble being able to root?
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Get a Pixel 6 Pro.
mattsasa said:
I am trying to purchase Samsung S22 Ultra that is to be rooted and then used for a project (not used as a personal phone). It absolutely needs to be rooted.
I understand that the snapdragon versions sold in the US do not have an unlocked bootloader, and that exynos version is required that is sold outside of NA.
However, I had some bad luck already, I bought a European S22 Ultra from Ebay with exynos. I was able to unlock the bootloader.. But, I could not install custom firmware because custom binaries were blocked due to "remaining installment balance." This appears to be the Knox Guard lock added from companies or MDM activation, or if the phone was bought through Samsung Finance + and is not fully paid for. And it seems there is no way to bypass this KG. So I am out of luck on that phone.
I am wondering can someone recommend me a better place to purchase, and / or confirm that I can buy a new S22 Ultra (exynos) and will be able to install a custom firmware? I don't want to buy one again and have it not work out.
Or am I better off just giving up on the Samsung S22 Ultra? If that's the case, my main requirement for this phone is one that I can root easily, so maybe someone can recommend me an option that I should not have any trouble being able to root?
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I might be wrong, but you can see if it's rootable by the model. S908E (Snapdragon) and S908B ( Exynos) can be rooted.
S908U can't. I believe yours S908U (north america)?
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I might be wrong, but you can see if it's rootable by the model. S908E (Snapdragon) and S908B ( Exynos) can be rooted.
S908U can't. I believe yours S908U (north america)?
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No mine is S908B (Exynos), I explained that in the post.
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Get a Pixel 6 Pro.
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thank you for the tip! Are there any considerations I need to know when buying for root capability? Location, model, firmware version, other?
mattsasa said:
thank you for the tip! Are there any considerations I need to know when buying for root capability? Location, model, firmware version, other?
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Spend some time over at the Pixel 6 pro forum. You will find a wealth of knowledge there that will address most of your questions.
Just to let OP know. I just bought S22 Ultra SM-S908N Korean version from Ebay. Look for store with_us. Its a snapdragon, with OEM unlock option present. So bootloader can be unlocked and phone can be rooted. I am in Canada using with Fido provider with 4G data only. 5G bands of the phone is curerntly not supported. Since my plan is 4g only so I dont care about that.
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Just to let OP know. I just bought S22 Ultra SM-S908N Korean version from Ebay. Look for store with_us. Its a snapdragon, with OEM unlock option present. So bootloader can be unlocked and phone can be rooted. I am in Canada using with Fido provider with 4G data only. 5G bands of the phone is curerntly not supported. Since my plan is 4g only so I dont care about that.
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thank you for this information! I don't even need any kind of connectivity on this phone
I will look for this seller
Oncet said:
Just to let OP know. I just bought S22 Ultra SM-S908N Korean version from Ebay. Look for store with_us. Its a snapdragon, with OEM unlock option present. So bootloader can be unlocked and phone can be rooted. I am in Canada using with Fido provider with 4G data only. 5G bands of the phone is curerntly not supported. Since my plan is 4g only so I dont care about that.
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I bought this phone from this seller and it worked! This was clutch! Thank you so much
mattsasa said:
I bought this phone from this seller and it worked! This was clutch! Thank you so much
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I am glad that its working for you!!