For those like me who are holding on to their Razer Phone 1 for as long as possible, the battery health is likely to have greatly deteriorated from the once massive 4000mAh. (AccuBattery shows mine is at 61% or 2,455mAh)
I recently came across ACC as a Magisk module which (on default settings) starts to slow charge the phone after 60%, then stops charging on 75%, then when the battery dips to 70% it will charge again. This charge cycle seems to be working my (a) QC3.0 / PD battery bank and (b) samsung charger that i got from a Galaxy C5 Pro. The Razer charger seems to charge past 75% for some reason (may need to play around with settings via terminal, not too sure how for now).
Advantage of this is I can simply keep the phone plugged in whenever possible and not worry about the battery health deteriorating as much.
I installed through Magisk (on LineageOS 17.1 2021-02-15) with a reboot after install, but apparently you can also do so with the app AccA (it didn't seem to work for me). FYI, you must have root.
More info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/advanced-charging-controller-acc.3668427/
-SKYLINE- said:
For those like me who are holding on to their Razer Phone 1 for as long as possible, the battery health is likely to have greatly deteriorated from the once massive 4000mAh. (AccuBattery shows mine is at 61% or 2,455mAh)
I recently came across ACC as a Magisk module which (on default settings) starts to slow charge the phone after 60%, then stops charging on 75%, then when the battery dips to 70% it will charge again. This charge cycle seems to be working my (a) QC3.0 / PD battery bank and (b) samsung charger that i got from a Galaxy C5 Pro. The Razer charger seems to charge past 75% for some reason (may need to play around with settings via terminal, not too sure how for now).
Advantage of this is I can simply keep the phone plugged in whenever possible and not worry about the battery health deteriorating as much.
I installed through Magisk (on LineageOS 17.1 2021-02-15) with a reboot after install, but apparently you can also do so with the app AccA (it didn't seem to work for me). FYI, you must have root.
More info: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/advanced-charging-controller-acc.3668427/
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Do I understand correctly that the phone will keep cycling between 70-75%, which is better for retaining the battery capacity?
I may try it, but the battery still reports a good health status. The previous owner of the phone didn't seem to use it much.
dungeon_mesher said:
Do I understand correctly that the phone will keep cycling between 70-75%, which is better for retaining the battery capacity?
I may try it, but the battery still reports a good health status. The previous owner of the phone didn't seem to use it much.
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That's correct. I can now safely leave the phone plugged in at the office, at home and overnight and it will cycle between 70%-75%. In theory, by not charging above 80% (or discharging below 20%) the battery capacity will decrease at a slower rate.
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Hey guys, I am so insecure about the battery charging tips for the OnePlus 6. I've seen a lot of posts, some say it does no harm charging to 100% and vice versa. Could anyone please enlighten me? I always charge my phone until 80% and then disconnect the power source.
Thank You
Whatever makes you feel comfortable.
I always charge to 100% but try to avoid the constant use of dash charging. I find that regular fast charging slightly reduces the battery life. Not charging to 100% also reduces the battery life (as the phone will think after a while that 80% is the max it can reach). I want to keep this phone for a long time (got the 8/256 version) and my experience with years of computerized Lithium chargers (for RC stuff) suggests that a. always charge to 100% and b. avoid frequent fast charging, slow(er) charging is better. That lead for me to the max battery life (both capacity and overall life expectancy)
Gadgetguy2005 said:
I always charge to 100% but try to avoid the constant use of dash charging. I find that regular fast charging slightly reduces the battery life. Not charging to 100% also reduces the battery life (as the phone will think after a while that 80% is the max it can reach). I want to keep this phone for a long time (got the 8/256 version) and my experience with years of computerized Lithium chargers (for RC stuff) suggests that a. always charge to 100% and b. avoid frequent fast charging, slow(er) charging is better. That lead for me to the max battery life (both capacity and overall life expectancy)
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Not charging to 100% will NOT reduce battery life as much as charging to 100%. You're probably thinking of Lithium-Polymer batteries and not Lithium-Ion batteries which this phone uses.
isaacchook said:
Hey guys, I am so insecure about the battery charging tips for the OnePlus 6. I've seen a lot of posts, some say it does no harm charging to 100% and vice versa. Could anyone please enlighten me? I always charge my phone until 80% and then disconnect the power source.
Thank You
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Ignore all the crap. Just use your phone comfortably as that's how the experience should be. By the time your battery degrades, you'll probably be looking to replace it anyway.
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Not charging to 100% will NOT reduce battery life as much as charging to 100%. You're probably thinking of Lithium-Polymer batteries and not Lithium-Ion batteries which this phone uses.
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You may be right. I am not sure. What I do know is that I sold my last three phones after 12-18 months of use and using my method their batteries had the exact same capacity than the day I got them. My wife is charging her phone whenever she feels like it (most of the time she charges to less than 100%) and after less than a year the capacity is reduced.
So I am not sure if I do it right (they way it "should be done") but it works for me.
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Hey guys, I am so insecure about the battery charging tips for the OnePlus 6. I've seen a lot of posts, some say it does no harm charging to 100% and vice versa. Could anyone please enlighten me? I always charge my phone until 80% and then disconnect the power source.
Thank You
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It's 2018 battery technology has changed. Charging it to 100% is the same amount of wear as having to charge to 80% more often 1 cycle on a lithium ion battery is how many times it is charged to 100% total. So a charge from 25% to 100% is .75 of a cycle then if you run it down to 75% and charge the 25% back to 100 that is 1 total cycle. It doesn't matter how many times you go to 100% or how many times you plug it in. And dash charge has built in protection against overcharging and it also slows charging when it nears full capacity. So Dash charging isn't any more wear than a slow charger.
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Not charging to 100% will NOT reduce battery life as much as charging to 100%. You're probably thinking of Lithium-Polymer batteries and not Lithium-Ion batteries which this phone uses.
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It won't reduce the battery life and neither will just going to 100%
See https://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
BTW.. my battery is often hot, running at 30-31c. What Temperature is your battery at when not doing much?
as you want
Just bear in mind your battery will not have the same performance after 2 years of use.
just charge it up to the level you want, then invest in a $30 replacement battery.
Gadgetguy2005 said:
I always charge to 100% but try to avoid the constant use of dash charging. I find that regular fast charging slightly reduces the battery life. Not charging to 100% also reduces the battery life (as the phone will think after a while that 80% is the max it can reach). I want to keep this phone for a long time (got the 8/256 version) and my experience with years of computerized Lithium chargers (for RC stuff) suggests that a. always charge to 100% and b. avoid frequent fast charging, slow(er) charging is better. That lead for me to the max battery life (both capacity and overall life expectancy)
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How do you not do dash charging if all you got is the charger that came with the phone? Is there a way to actually tell it how to charge the battery?
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How do you not do dash charging if all you got is the charger that came with the phone? Is there a way to actually tell it how to charge the battery?
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I have about a half dozen phone chargers - I just use one that is not dash
i emailed oneplus and they told me a new battery after warranty cost only 33 euro including repair and shipping so now that i know this i dont really care about my battery health and will change it out around 2 years
I'm changing phones every year. By this time battery will be fine, so I don't really care how to charge it. My way is to charge it every night with USB cable connected to pc (slow as f*ck, 80% takes about 3 or 4 hrs, but sleeping takes6-8hrs anyway - reason for that is stupid I don't have power socket close to my bed ) - in case I need juice fast - two oneplus chargers somewhere at home.
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isaacchook said:
Hey guys, I am so insecure about the battery charging tips for the OnePlus 6. I've seen a lot of posts, some say it does no harm charging to 100% and vice versa. Could anyone please enlighten me? I always charge my phone until 80% and then disconnect the power source.
Thank You
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You should charge your phone to 100% and if you can leave it on a charger even after that, even better
I'm actually a developer and have read the code so please read on for the explanation
If you have had a phone with android M or lower you might be familiar with the "android is starting/upgrading" screen where it showed "optimising app x of total"
So, Google removed that code in N right? Why is this a bother
Actually wrong, that code was simply relocated
The code was moved from the boot process to when the device was charging (that is, plugged in), full charged (that is, 100%) and idle (idle = device is not physically moving)
Once this condition is satisfied, the code behind the "android is starting" screen runs in the background and starts optimising apps
In other words, you have to keep your phone connected to a charger in order to finish this process
Which is why it is a good idea to charge overnight
What if you don't allow this to happen?
Ever heard of the classic "android system using a lot of battery" issue? You basically force your system to use the JIT compiler which uses a lot of battery and android system comes to the top as a result
In other words if you don't leave your device on a charger long enough, your battery life will suffer anyway
Wiping cache is also a pretty bad idea
So, leave your phone on a charger without worries. Google just made the "android is starting" code a lot more convenient for the user but you have to allow your phone to run that code otherwise it's meaningless
Protip: some root users suggest running "cmd package bg-dexopt-job" in a terminal emulator app as root forces the optimisation to happen. I haven't personally tried it but it won't cause any damage to your phone that's for sure
That doesn't mean you should go try it unless you are aware of what you're doing either
anupritaisno1 said:
You should charge your phone to 100% and if you can leave it on a charger even after that, even better
I'm actually a developer and have read the code so please read on for the explanation
If you have had a phone with android M or lower you might be familiar with the "android is starting/upgrading" screen where it showed "optimising app x of total"
So, Google removed that code in N right? Why is this a bother
Actually wrong, that code was simply relocated
The code was moved from the boot process to when the device was charging (that is, plugged in), full charged (that is, 100%) and idle (idle = device is not physically moving)
Once this condition is satisfied, the code behind the "android is starting" screen runs in the background and starts optimising apps
In other words, you have to keep your phone connected to a charger in order to finish this process
Which is why it is a good idea to charge overnight
What if you don't allow this to happen?
Ever heard of the classic "android system using a lot of battery" issue? You basically force your system to use the JIT compiler which uses a lot of battery and android system comes to the top as a result
In other words if you don't leave your device on a charger long enough, your battery life will suffer anyway
Wiping cache is also a pretty bad idea
So, leave your phone on a charger without worries. Google just made the "android is starting" code a lot more convenient for the user but you have to allow your phone to run that code otherwise it's meaningless
Protip: some root users suggest running "cmd package bg-dexopt-job" in a terminal emulator app as root forces the optimisation to happen. I haven't personally tried it but it won't cause any damage to your phone that's for sure
That doesn't mean you should go try it unless you are aware of what you're doing either
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Thank you. Understood!
anupritaisno1 said:
You should charge your phone to 100% and if you can leave it on a charger even after that, even better
I'm actually a developer and have read the code so please read on for the explanation
If you have had a phone with android M or lower you might be familiar with the "android is starting/upgrading" screen where it showed "optimising app x of total"
So, Google removed that code in N right? Why is this a bother
Actually wrong, that code was simply relocated
The code was moved from the boot process to when the device was charging (that is, plugged in), full charged (that is, 100%) and idle (idle = device is not physically moving)
Once this condition is satisfied, the code behind the "android is starting" screen runs in the background and starts optimising apps
In other words, you have to keep your phone connected to a charger in order to finish this process
Which is why it is a good idea to charge overnight
What if you don't allow this to happen?
Ever heard of the classic "android system using a lot of battery" issue? You basically force your system to use the JIT compiler which uses a lot of battery and android system comes to the top as a result
In other words if you don't leave your device on a charger long enough, your battery life will suffer anyway
Wiping cache is also a pretty bad idea
So, leave your phone on a charger without worries. Google just made the "android is starting" code a lot more convenient for the user but you have to allow your phone to run that code otherwise it's meaningless
Protip: some root users suggest running "cmd package bg-dexopt-job" in a terminal emulator app as root forces the optimisation to happen. I haven't personally tried it but it won't cause any damage to your phone that's for sure
That doesn't mean you should go try it unless you are aware of what you're doing either
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Nice, now that's some interesting reading, thanks for the info, didn't know that !
anupritaisno1 said:
You should charge your phone to 100% and if you can leave it on a charger even after that, even better
I'm actually a developer and have read the code so please read on for the explanation
If you have had a phone with android M or lower you might be familiar with the "android is starting/upgrading" screen where it showed "optimising app x of total"
So, Google removed that code in N right? Why is this a bother
Actually wrong, that code was simply relocated
The code was moved from the boot process to when the device was charging (that is, plugged in), full charged (that is, 100%) and idle (idle = device is not physically moving)
Once this condition is satisfied, the code behind the "android is starting" screen runs in the background and starts optimising apps
In other words, you have to keep your phone connected to a charger in order to finish this process
Which is why it is a good idea to charge overnight
What if you don't allow this to happen?
Ever heard of the classic "android system using a lot of battery" issue? You basically force your system to use the JIT compiler which uses a lot of battery and android system comes to the top as a result
In other words if you don't leave your device on a charger long enough, your battery life will suffer anyway
Wiping cache is also a pretty bad idea
So, leave your phone on a charger without worries. Google just made the "android is starting" code a lot more convenient for the user but you have to allow your phone to run that code otherwise it's meaningless
Protip: some root users suggest running "cmd package bg-dexopt-job" in a terminal emulator app as root forces the optimisation to happen. I haven't personally tried it but it won't cause any damage to your phone that's for sure
That doesn't mean you should go try it unless you are aware of what you're doing either
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What if I charge for a prolonged time but the battery doesn't reach 100%? I.e. if I plug it into my PC (very slow charging) and leave it for a few hours?
So I've noticed that the phone doesn't charge above approximately 73% when fully turned off. I'm using the standard Google charger for the phone. It also charges normally when the phone is turned on. See screenshot...
My refurbished Pixel also does not show only around 65% charge after being plugged in for the whole night.
But then when I use it, it sort of freezes at a specific battery percentage, so it is on for example 30% for two hours, before it goes further down. See the attached picture.
So at least in my case, the phone is fully charged when turned off and plugged in, but somehow the percentage count of the phone does not recognize it. Maybe it's more or less the same in your case?
I too am having battery issues since updating to the latest October Android 10. I have bootloader unlocked and rooted with latest magisk Canary build.
I can charge to 100% but it then tends to stick at a certain% for a while and then the battery dies at 15-20%. I've tried battery calibration but it doesn't seem to help
I've had a dose of the same lately, had a couple of days where my charge has reached 42% for the entire day? Still charges fine but from a 100% charge I will lose at least 13% - 16% charge in a few hours on idle with nothing showing as draining heavy in battery manager. If I run it down to 18% or less and try and use the camera it will shutdown and if I can get it to reboot it's on 1%. I've come to the conclusion its the battery (could be wrong) purely as it's acting exactly the same way as my nexus 6p did when it's battery started to fail.
I don't know if this deserves a message thread but the other one claiming a 100% was closed and it didn't apparently work anyway. But I have found a simple way to get it to 86% when you really want to get it as fully charged as possible. I get mine up to 86% regularly by putting it on the charger while in Safestrap (TWRP). If you had your phone charged to 80% and it won't go higher reboot to Safestrap (TWRP mode). It will show probably now show about 74% in Safestrap.
Let it charge for a little while and it will come up to 80% according to TWRP (Safestrap). But when you reboot to the regular system it will show 86%. Strange but it's a way to get it a little higher. If you put it on your charger it won't do anything until it gets below 80%. I use one of those inline USB volt / amp meter devices between my phone and the charger so I can actually see when it is charging and how much current is being used in the charge. It really does charge in Safestrap to a higher percentage (as seen on reboot) and sometimes the current is well over 1 amp. If for example I stop at 83% though in Safestrap and reboot it will only show 0.0 amp charge in the regular Android system but if I go back to Safestrap it will continue to charge at close to 1 amp.
Maybe this might tell someone who knows more about this to help find a way around that 80% limit.
Note: While this is a quick easy work around to get to 85% or 86% as TheMadScientist has pointed out there is a way to get to 99% or even 100% if you install Xposed framework and a special module as mentioned in this thread here:
Charge past 80% on Snapdragon
I have post quoted you inn another thread
droidzer1 said:
I don't know if this deserves a message thread but the other one claiming a 100% was closed and it didn't apparently work anyway. But I have found a simple way to get it to 86% when you really want to get it as fully charged as possible. I get mine up to 86% regularly by putting it on the charger while in Safestrap (TWRP). If you had your phone charged to 80% and it won't go higher reboot to Safestrap (TWRP mode). It will show probably now show about 74% in Safestrap.
Let it charge for a little while and it will come up to 80% according to TWRP (Safestrap). But when you reboot to the regular system it will show 86%. Strange but it's a way to get it a little higher. If you put it on your charger it won't do anything until it gets below 80%. I use one of those inline USB volt / amp meter devices between my phone and the charger so I can actually see when it is charging and how much current is being used in the charge. It really does charge in Safestrap to a higher percentage (as seen on reboot) and sometimes the current is well over 1 amp. If for example I stop at 83% though in Safestrap and reboot it will only show 0.0 amp charge in the regular Android system but if I go back to Safestrap it will continue to charge at close to 1 amp.
Maybe this might tell someone who knows more about this to help find a way around that 80% limit.
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I got one of the choetech current cables and it has been totaly awesome. It tells a lot about how these devices charge.
Not familiar with that particular cable but the ones I have can be had for anywhere from $1.29 to about $3 or so on eBay. It is really nice to have and track the current a phone is charging at. And with some Samsungs you can see if it is fast charging or not by the charger voltage output which jumps from 5 volts to about 9 volts when it's fast charging. Also good for detecting bad USB cables.
Using an App like Androsensor the voltage read from the S8 battery appears to be well below a fully charged voltage level. The question I think that needs to be asked is whether the voltage being read is correct or if something in the root process or kernel is causing it to be read incorrectly since charge percentage on Lithium ion batteries closely correlate to the voltage level (unlike some other battery chemistry types). A Nicad or NiMH battery can look fully charged based on voltage in less than a minute from a fully discharged state once it's put on a charger but it can take hours before it is actually fully charged.
So I bought POCO X3 Pro earlier this month...So I play games on it mainly and the question is which kind of charging habit is better?
1.Frequently charging to make the percentage between 50%-100%
2.Charge it to 80-90 and try not make to make it fall below 20% and charge only once in a day?
The second option is a bit far fetched for me...Though I will try
My habit is 1 + 2: when around 50%, charge it up to around 90%.
Of course I'm not paranoid about it. But I do check battery levels most times I pick up my phone, to decide what to do.
If you root your device, you can use Battery Charge Limit.
You can set the maximum charging percentage, like setting it to 80%, then the charger will stop charging.
For our POCO X3 PRO, we need to go into this app setting and change "Set Control File" to the one with mi6 or something I don't clearly remember.
ArrowOS has this smart charging built-in.
I personally use my old charger to charge it slowly.
From what I observe, the Xiaomi 33W charger will rise the battery temperature to 40°C, which is bad to the battery. My slow charger will increase to ~33°C.
The fast charge is for convenience and emergency eg. forgot to charge at night and need to rush in the morning.
Frequently charging between 40~80% is better for battery health in long term.
Advanced Charging Controller (acc) is a good module to do this under control. It also has links about battery health explanation. (Battery university)
It is best to keep it between 20-80 present and not gaming while charging. I use my old slow charger when i am not in a hurry.
i keep mine at 70% max. i charge when it gets to 40%. I use arrowOS so i can set max charging and it resets the battery stats as well, so i know which apps eats power next time
Trying to keep it between 40-80%, with 10min break before recharging to cool down
Actually, I always keep my battery between 25% and 75%, then I restart the device once a week. Finally, I will use it until 0% one or two times a month before charging fully to 100% , I have read in a newspaper, it is necessary for digital devices.
nthp999 said:
Actually, I always keep my battery between 25% and 75%, then I restart the device once a week. Finally, I will use it until 0% one or two times a month before charging fully to 100% , I have read in a newspaper, it is necessary for digital devices.
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discharging at 0% seems to be at a high risk that it won't power on anymore
Wait... is there a problem with charging my phone to 100%?
Darklink007 said:
Wait... is there a problem with charging my phone to 100%?
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If you want your phone battery health to last longer for years, like 2 years or more, then it's better. Info is here: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
For long term, battery will degrade and loose it's capacity, so your battery die eventually, then replace, then die, then replace...
Like this:
https://imgur.com/aUOLaob
If you are wealthy enough to change your phone so frequently that you don't even want to concern the long term damage to phones, then forget about it and go for the TOP. (And coffee for me )
Cycling from 100 to 0 % we get 500 cycles
Cycling from 100 to 10 % we get 500 cycles
Cycling from 100 to 20 % we get 1.000 cycles
Cycling from 90 to 0 % we get 1.500 cycles
Cycling from 90 to 10 % we get 1.500 cycles
Cycling from 90 to 20 % we get 2.000 cycles
Cycling from 80 to 0 % we get 3.000 cycles
Cycling from 80 to 10 % we get 3.000 cycles
Cycling from 80 to 20 % we get 3.500 cycles
Cycling from 70 to 0 % we get 5.000 cycles
Cycling from 70 to 10 % we get 5.500 cycles
Cycling from 70 to 20 % we get 6.000 cycles
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Battery charging: Full versus Partial - 🔋PushEVs
What's better for your electric car battery?
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To be honest, I wouldn't worry too much about any loss of capacity in the battery. My oldest still active device is now 5 years old and even with that I do not notice any significant loss of capacity. Typically all of my devices charge from around 5% to 100%. My Nokia 7 Plus was charged almost daily by me for 2 years and by my brother for a year before that, but I don't know how he charged it. Still, I haven't noticed any change in the running time to this day.
Maybe it's not the place to ask, but I was wondering, is there any way to know if a Xiaomi charger is fake? I want to buy a charger between 10-18w to replace my 33w charger in order to reduce my POCO X3 PRO battery's suffering, but I live in a third world country where is VERY difficult to adquire imported products and I don't want to buy a fake one from the local online marketplaces, if you guys could please help me I would appreciate it
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Maybe it's not the place to ask, but I was wondering, is there any way to know if a Xiaomi charger is fake? I want to buy a charger between 10-18w to replace my 33w charger in order to reduce my POCO X3 PRO battery's suffering, but I live in a third world country where is VERY difficult to adquire imported products and I don't want to buy a fake one from the local online marketplaces, if you guys could please help me I would appreciate it
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Just buy any 2 Ampere, 5 Volt charger. It should be fast enough, but not too fast. It doesn't have to be a Xiaomi charger.
Darklink007 said:
Maybe it's not the place to ask, but I was wondering, is there any way to know if a Xiaomi charger is fake? I want to buy a charger between 10-18w to replace my 33w charger in order to reduce my POCO X3 PRO battery's suffering, but I live in a third world country where is VERY difficult to adquire imported products and I don't want to buy a fake one from the local online marketplaces, if you guys could please help me I would appreciate it
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If you have a laptop, use it's USB. It most likely will charge VERY slow, to the point that you want it to charge faster.
Edit: The alternative way is to use Magisk module Advanced Charging Controller (acc)
You need to unlock bootloader, install Magisk, and install Advanced Charging Controller (acc) module.
Then you can restrict the charging current or voltage. I tried with the official charger and it can be charged below 500 mAh, so below 2.5 watts.
pl1992aw said:
If you have a laptop, use it's USB. It most likely will charge VERY slow, to the point that you want it to charge faster.
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If you then put a mirror on the laptop, you can see your beard grow in real time while it is charging.
pl1992aw said:
If you root your device, you can use Battery Charge Limit. ... like setting it to 80% ... ArrowOS has this smart charging built-in.
I personally use my old charger to charge it slowly.
From what I observe, the Xiaomi 33W charger will rise the battery temperature to 40°C, which is bad to the battery. My slow charger will increase to ~33°C.
The fast charge is for convenience and emergency eg. forgot to charge at night and need to rush in the morning.
Frequently charging between 40~80% is better for battery health in long term.
Advanced Charging Controller (acc) is a good module to do this under control. It also has links about battery health explanation. (Battery university)
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fnldstntn said:
It is best to keep it between 20-80 present and not gaming while charging. I use my old slow charger when i am not in a hurry.
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Battery charging: Full versus Partial - 🔋PushEVs
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Cycling from 100 to 10 % we get 500 cycles
Cycling from 100 to 20 % we get 1.000 cycles
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Cycling from 70 to 20 % we get 6.000 cycles
The first two are should be the standard user behaviour, given the ROM build-in recharging warning. The difference in cycles to 70 to 20 % seems huge (6-10x more)
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If you have a laptop, use it's USB. It most likely will charge VERY slow, to the point that you want it to charge faster.
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All interesting posts. I wonder however:
What about having the device connected to the charger most of the time (at work place) with 100% most of the time, so it is de-charged only a small time of the day? So only at times when really moving around some workdays or in the weekend the device gets down to 20% or below.
I have now changed the 33W (12V/3A) Fast-Charger with the older 18W (9V/2A) Charger of the RN7 I have.
Would setting the charge limit to 80% give a huge benefit if I would like to use the device at least for 2-3 years?
ChriMo said:
Cycling from 100 to 10 % we get 500 cycles
Cycling from 100 to 20 % we get 1.000 cycles
...
Cycling from 70 to 20 % we get 6.000 cycles
The first two are should be the standard user behaviour, given the ROM build-in recharging warning. The difference in cycles to 70 to 20 % seems huge (6-10x more)
All interesting posts. I wonder however:
What about having the device connected to the charger most of the time (at work place) with 100% most of the time, so it is de-charged only a small time of the day? So only at times when really moving around some workdays or in the weekend the device gets down to 20% or below.
I have now changed the 33W (12V/3A) Fast-Charger with the older 18W (9V/2A) Charger of the RN7 I have.
Would setting the charge limit to 80% give a huge benefit if I would like to use the device at least for 2-3 years?
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Connecting to the power all the time at around 100% is bad. It is at the limit of Over charging, the battery may bloat up and destroy the screen.
If you want, it's better to set it limit 40~80% and connect. The importance is the battery temperature. Don't make it hot. You can check it with Ampere.
The benefit is about the battery. You might not need to replace it often when you encounter like cases of sudden drop of percentage or sudden shutdown.
Huge or not is subjective.
pl1992aw said:
Connecting to the power all the time at around 100% is bad. It is at the limit of Over charging, the battery may bloat up and destroy the screen.
If you want, it's better to set it limit 40~80% and connect. The importance is the battery temperature. Don't make it hot. You can check it with Ampere.
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Regarding battery temperature at least after reaching 100% I never noticed a hot or even warm phone.
I taught the device/system has some "charging intelligence" when always connected, so that the phone is directly using the power from the cable while the battery is not drained?
In Stock MIUI (debloated) or xiaomi.eu without root it is not possible to set a different Battery Charge Limit then?
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Regarding battery temperature at least after reaching 100% I never noticed a hot or even warm phone.
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When it's about to reach 80% or 90%, smart batteries now will charge slower automatically, so you don't feel the temperature.
However, when you see it in ultra-fast charge, like 40% charing to 70% in 30 minutes, the battery rise to 40°C or higher (as I observed.) Can even go higher depend on climate and using while charging.
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I taught the device/system has some "charging intelligence" when always connected, so that the phone is directly using the power from the cable while the battery is not drained?
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This can be done with Advanced Charging Controller (acc).
I had answered similar questions here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/custom-kernel-for-gaming-poco-x3-pro-please.4281305/post-85105659
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In Stock MIUI (debloated) or xiaomi.eu without root it is not possible to set a different Battery Charge Limit then?
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This control needs root.
Unless it's built into the Rom.
ArrowOS version 2021-05-07 had Smart charging that can set a limit threshold without root.
But developer said will remove this funtcion. See in his Rom thread for his reply.
Hello. I just noticed something weird on my TCL 10L phone. When the phone reaches 100%, it displays fully charged on my lockscreen. Though, unlocking the phone I see the phone is still charging. I see the battery bar being green with a charging bolt. It takes around 15-30 minutes until it says charged (and the bolt removed). Is this normal? I do not remember the phone doing this when I bought it around 5 months ago.
Changes in charging and especially sudden loss of capacity can indicate a battery failure.
Check for cover swelling/bulging, battery swelling is a failure, replace asap if so.
A failure this early is rare but Li's can fail at any time in their life.
Inspect jack and port for contamination. Use a known good charger and cable. Try cycling the battery until the phone shutdown then charge to 100%, repeat... to calibrate battery indicator.
Minimum start charging temp is 72F
Best start temperature is 82-90F
Never attempt to charge a Li below 40F
Keep battery temperature below about 101F when charging.
Do not use phone while charging as it will skew the charging curve.
Thanks for the reply. There is no battery loss. I can play games on this device, browse, and check apps and drain the battery in the same period I did since I got it. I actually charged it to 100% since went to sleep. 9 hours later the device was still at 100%. 1.5 hour of playing a game after that and the battery was down to 84%. The issue is really weird. I am thinking a battery calibration may help. I do not know.
P.S. I am currently using Android 10 and I do not want to switch to Android 11.
I wouldn't worry about it.
It's best not to charge to 100%.or below 30%.
Lu's like frequent midrange power cycling (40-65%).
As for 11, no way that crapware is getting on my phones....
blackhawk said:
I wouldn't worry about it.
It's best not to charge to 100%.or below 30%.
Lu's like frequent midrange power cycling (40-65%).
As for 11, no way that crapware is getting on my phones....
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Did you personally experience this on any device? This is the first time I saw something like this. According to some articles the phone may display wrong battery stats. So I was thinking calibration would be a solution to this issue.