Hi Guys,
I've read a bit about how Xiaomi are apparently going to be launching in the UK, but I've seen this info for some time and not really found anything concrete about what their plans are... I know it will be in partnership with Three and on the Poco launch I saw that this is planned to be available in UK but I've not seen a huge amount else...
So I thought I'd create this thread as a wish list or dumping ground for any information or rumours that people might have
So for me, I think there should definitely be a 'flagship' Xiaomi shop in London - I visited the one in Madrid and it was a great store full of not just phones but other Xiaomi stuff (kettles, routers, towels!)
In terms of phones, I'd like to see the Poco F1, Mi 8/SE, Mi Mix 3 and then in the mid range the Mi A2/Lite, Mi Max 3, Redmi 6 and Note 6. Also the Mi Pad 4. Yeah, I don't want much eh?
I think Xiaomi does have the opportunity to make an impact in the UK market but it will take a few years. Look at Huawei, I think it's only really with the release of the P20 Pro that they have become really 'acceptable' to UK buyers as a viable option, but there are as many people in my office with the P20 Pro as there are with the Galaxy S9 so they are definitely mainstream now.
Maybe something like an amazing release price for the Poco F1, or releasing something as awesome as the Mi Mix 3 looks to be will be able to put Xiaomi 'on the map' quicker
Hello folks,
time for phone upgrade for me. Trying to decide Mi A2 and Redmi Note 6 Pro that came out recently. I am leaning towards Mi A2 primarily due to Android One.
Many don't like MIUI interface. I have personally never used Xiaomi phones so far so have no idea if its good or bad. Android one because other than google's bloatware there should not be anything else. Plus, regular updates and hopefully no anti-rollback lock so the phone won't brick. (I am not too sure if this anti-rollback is by google or Xiaomi, haven't searched yet)
What is recommendation? Mi A2 or Redmi Note 6 Pro?
Thanks in advance.
be very very careful with the redmi note 6 pro. pick the global (official) version unless you want to be stuck on the china miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-3831680-1-1.html
redmi note 6 pro
pros:
-bigger battery
-it will probably have better custom rom support (eventually - check the redmi note 5 pro info)
-should be cheaper compared to the a2 (if it costs you as much as the mi a2 you're being ripped off)
-dual selfie cameras if you're into that
cons:
-micro usb - we're in 2018 xiaomi... seriously?
-sightly lower clock on the cpu
-miui (you should be able to get a custom rom eventually)
-currently sells at the highest price you will find it (it will get cheaper)
-notch
-competition:
*redmi note 5 pro has almost the same hardware, already has good custom roms and sells for less.
*poco f1 is selling for a bit more but you do get better hardware. and custom roms ramping up already.
mi a2:
pros:
-better stock rom.
-better back camera
-slimer and lighter
-usb c
-sturdier build (case uses actual screws)
cons:
-if you intend to custom rom it, don't bother with android one. miui gets you better hardware for the money and in some cases custom roms (see lineage) can be a better choice. see appendix.
-price
-no headphone jack
-smaller battery
-competition:
*miui phones which cost less to get you the same/similar specs (and are the same xiaomi build quality)
*nokias with android one cost a bit more to get the same specs but nokia has even better build quality (sorry xiaomi but you dont build bricks like they do) and they're already updating to pie for their android ones. so maybe better support in the future too? who knows.
miui versus android one versus custom roms:
miui:
-has 2 versions: china (without google play because reasons) and just china + en languages, plenty of china targeted apps, even their own app store. and global (china miui - some bloatware + google play)
-ONLY these 2 miui versions will ever be OTA compatible.
-never ever get a phone with china miui (unless you're actually in china) - sometimes vendors will "customize" the china rom, add google play and a "bunch of other" stuff and sell that to you as official. DO NOT BUY THAT! (unless you intend to completely remove miui anyway)
-an official global miui is a must for daily use outside china... (do not consider a china only phone, you will regret it)
-there are semi-custom miui releases like xiaomi.eu and miuipro.com (in case your phone happens to not have an official miui global not all do - only the ones released outside china officially get a global rom!). they are not that bad, some say even better compared to miui global official - but you do need to unlock your bootloader (and some willingness to tinker with your phone os). and you lose things like: OTA and official support (as bad as it may be)
problems with miui are:
-miui support and updates are kinda slow.
-security patches are released but not very fast.
-it's based on personal preference, some like it compared to android standard, some find it snappier, some find it's slower.
-for the redmi series you get at most ONE official android update. (i.e. from nougat to oreo or oreo to pie). you get miui updates (and security patches), but never more then 1 android.
-bugs and serious problems sometime go unanswered while they add more and more features. (not always, not all bugs, but sometimes... en.miui.com for examples - read the forums on some of the phones released for a while)
if you're willing to learn and to have an unlocked bootloader phone (some people do not), miui can be completely wiped and you can get an proper custom rom (hell you can even build one yourself). these will be based on the aosp or caf source code, will look like android standard (sometime even better if you don't really want all the google apps - or google apps at all). if you want a rooted phone this is your best bet. most have even ota updates (on their own custom channels).
problem is .... as much as i like custom roms, they are built and maintained by volunteer devs working on their own free time. so it's always unknown and you have 0 guarantees that a phone that's supported now will continue to be supported next year. there's also no guarantee that any phone will be supported. (they're not looking to add to their workload)
and so in comes android one... it's got the stock android experience without requiring you to unlock, root, custom rom etc. it does mean google adds all their gapps but the stock experience is much better compared to stock miui. you get updates in time, you get a clean nice stock android. good luck, i hope this helps you make your decision.
laviniu_c said:
be very very careful with the redmi note 6 pro. pick the global (official) version unless you want to be stuck on the china miui:
http://en.miui.com/thread-3831680-1-1.html
redmi note 6 pro
pros:
-bigger battery
-it will probably have better custom rom support (eventually - check the redmi note 5 pro info)
-should be cheaper compared to the a2 (if it costs you as much as the mi a2 you're being ripped off)
-dual selfie cameras if you're into that
cons:
-micro usb - we're in 2018 xiaomi... seriously?
-sightly lower clock on the cpu
-miui (you should be able to get a custom rom eventually)
-currently sells at the highest price you will find it (it will get cheaper)
-notch
-competition:
*redmi note 5 pro has almost the same hardware, already has good custom roms and sells for less.
*poco f1 is selling for a bit more but you do get better hardware. and custom roms ramping up already.
mi a2:
pros:
-better stock rom.
-better back camera
-slimer and lighter
-usb c
-sturdier build (case uses actual screws)
cons:
-if you intend to custom rom it, don't bother with android one. miui gets you better hardware for the money and in some cases custom roms (see lineage) can be a better choice. see appendix.
-price
-no headphone jack
-smaller battery
-competition:
*miui phones which cost less to get you the same/similar specs (and are the same xiaomi build quality)
*nokias with android one cost a bit more to get the same specs but nokia has even better build quality (sorry xiaomi but you dont build bricks like they do) and they're already updating to pie for their android ones. so maybe better support in the future too? who knows.
miui versus android one versus custom roms:
miui:
-has 2 versions: china (without google play because reasons) and just china + en languages, plenty of china targeted apps, even their own app store. and global (china miui - some bloatware + google play)
-ONLY these 2 miui versions will ever be OTA compatible.
-never ever get a phone with china miui (unless you're actually in china) - sometimes vendors will "customize" the china rom, add google play and a "bunch of other" stuff and sell that to you as official. DO NOT BUY THAT! (unless you intend to completely remove miui anyway)
-an official global miui is a must for daily use outside china... (do not consider a china only phone, you will regret it)
-there are semi-custom miui releases like xiaomi.eu and miuipro.com (in case your phone happens to not have an official miui global not all do - only the ones released outside china officially get a global rom!). they are not that bad, some say even better compared to miui global official - but you do need to unlock your bootloader (and some willingness to tinker with your phone os). and you lose things like: OTA and official support (as bad as it may be)
problems with miui are:
-miui support and updates are kinda slow.
-security patches are released but not very fast.
-it's based on personal preference, some like it compared to android standard, some find it snappier, some find it's slower.
-for the redmi series you get at most ONE official android update. (i.e. from nougat to oreo or oreo to pie). you get miui updates (and security patches), but never more then 1 android.
-bugs and serious problems sometime go unanswered while they add more and more features. (not always, not all bugs, but sometimes... en.miui.com for examples - read the forums on some of the phones released for a while)
if you're willing to learn and to have an unlocked bootloader phone (some people do not), miui can be completely wiped and you can get an proper custom rom (hell you can even build one yourself). these will be based on the aosp or caf source code, will look like android standard (sometime even better if you don't really want all the google apps - or google apps at all). if you want a rooted phone this is your best bet. most have even ota updates (on their own custom channels).
problem is .... as much as i like custom roms, they are built and maintained by volunteer devs working on their own free time. so it's always unknown and you have 0 guarantees that a phone that's supported now will continue to be supported next year. there's also no guarantee that any phone will be supported. (they're not looking to add to their workload)
and so in comes android one... it's got the stock android experience without requiring you to unlock, root, custom rom etc. it does mean google adds all their gapps but the stock experience is much better compared to stock miui. you get updates in time, you get a clean nice stock android. good luck, i hope this helps you make your decision.
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Thank u I am actually looking at both these phones myself thank u for the breakdown I believe the 6 pro also has the 636 snapedragon chip supposed to be alot faster
rob420p said:
Thank u I am actually looking at both these phones myself thank u for the breakdown I believe the 6 pro also has the 636 snapedragon chip supposed to be alot faster
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well the 636 is a downclocked 660. same identical cpu, lower clock speeds for it and the gpu. (it's the same comparison like 626 vs 625)
laviniu_c said:
well the 636 is a downclocked 660. same identical cpu, lower clock speeds for it and the gpu. (it's the same comparison like 626 vs 625)
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Thank you so I'll get what ever I get a better deal on
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Thank you so I'll get what ever I get a better deal on
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I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
sureshjonna said:
I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
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I'm getting the Redmi 6 it doesn't say pro idk if it's the same thing lol
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sureshjonna said:
I was in your shoes. I finally got Note 6 pro for 13K INR.
I felt MI A2 lacked battery and costed 3K extra.
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IDK that donomination found it for 155$$
rob420p said:
I'm getting the Redmi 6 it doesn't say pro idk if it's the same thing lol
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IDK that donomination found it for 155$$
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redmi 6 pro = mi a2 lite
redmi note 6 pro is not the same phone
The performance is very close compared with Mi A2 if you don't play games. You also get a more beautiful display and very good battery life. According to notebookcheck.net the display is like high-end smartphones
If you are buying for your mother, wife, girl friend, sister, father or in general any non technical or non gaming folks, then go for Note 6 Pro any day.
Note 6 Pro with older SD636 is good for mainly those who prefer picture, social, entertainment over gaming or customisation. MiUi is bad in our eye who are tech savvy but main advantage is longer and really agressive update cycle.
It keeps the device relatively clean & up to date for non technical people. MiUi in general is really battery friendly too.
Having both within family so giving you feedback based on typical family feedback and first hand use.
I don't know if you still interested confused between these two phones, earlier I was also in the same situation but that time I was considering to buy note 5pro as note 6pro was not launched, but when it launched on "single's day"(celebrated in China) at 12,999 with 5% extra discount with selected banks, that offer was great, while MIA2 was around 15-16k so I bought note 6 pro, right now note 6 pro is around 13,999 and MiA2 is also price at 14-15k so why not buy better process i.e sd660 which is better clocked, better camera, vulkan supported. Only downside of MIA2 I can think about is battery capacity, no headphones jack and hybrid sim try,
Bhanu_Chauhan said:
I don't know if you still interested confused between these two phones, earlier I was also in the same situation but that time I was considering to buy note 5pro as note 6pro was not launched, but when it launched on "single's day"(celebrated in China) at 12,999 with 5% extra discount with selected banks, that offer was great, while MIA2 was around 15-16k so I bought note 6 pro, right now note 6 pro is around 13,999 and MiA2 is also price at 14-15k so why not buy better process i.e sd660 which is better clocked, better camera, vulkan supported. Only downside of MIA2 I can think about is battery capacity, no headphones jack and hybrid sim try,
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the mi a2 4/64 has also the emmc bug which makes the phone terribly slow and the pie update is unusable
all that plus a battery that will last you 4hs is a big no for me
the differences are not that big, the note 6 pro is clearly a better product in comparison, plus it's cheaper
Hi guys,
Just checking with you, is this still worth it to buy as of April 2020?
Mi 10 has been released here but the pricing is too much 2599 AED which is almost near the Samsung flagships and iPhone 11. iPhone SE 2020 has been released as well with identical pricing to mi note 10 pro
What bothers me is the software update which is the usual complaints about Xiaomi phones. I don't think there's an official Android 10 now.
Please let me know of your thoughts and advise if I should buy this or not, or if you have other recommendations, it is welcome too.
Thanks guys.
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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is there anything you can suggest for the same price point?
Thanks for your reply. Mi 10 is released here but the pricing is too high
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
OC-Freak said:
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
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thank you. now I am deciding for mi note 10, real me x2 pro and Samsung note 10 (not the plus).
Still unsure but more on mi note 10 and x2 pro
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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I read today that that Stable Android 10 for CC9 Pro (Chinese Mi Note 10) was just released (V11.1.1.0.QFDCNXM). I think only a few days, then there will be a global stable...
This is the best for my budget but I am thinking due to the software updates. Realme got his own UI now. modified color OS so I am thinking this mi note 10 or the realme x2 pro
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
engineer000 said:
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
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The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
MacGuy2006 said:
The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
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So it will be long waiting for the Android 11, yeah? I think I'm gonna go with realme. They are pushing their new UI that looks like color OS with Android 10 already so android 11 can be delivered earlier than xiaomi delivers in Mi note 10
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
luisarriaga said:
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm checking where I can buy realme with local warranty here in UAE and will decide based on that. oneplus 8 here is a Chinese version flashed with oxygen OS so I doubt about 5G. I can buy realme here but it is import from India. I will check and let you know
ond96 said:
5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
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There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
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the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
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My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
Neo XL said:
There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
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Thanks. I am thinking about this too. MIUI 12 previews in youtube are very cool with the features I am missing in my former MIUI devices.
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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Why do you say the phone is not supported by Xiaomi? MIUI 12 will be released for the Mi Note 10 sometime in June.
I was about to purchase the Mi9T and was bothered by the camera.
The Mi Note 10 seem to be the best for me.
I still did not purchase it. why?
The main difference from the 9T is the camera, and if that amazing camera lacks performance I'm not sure it worth that difference in price...
would appreciate your suggestions.
I currently have the Mi 9 SE. For me personally the performance is fine (snapdragon 712), battery is fine too (3070mah), camera is great but only with gcam (currently gcam mods have problems support all lenses) also very easy to debloat. I do mostly two things on my phone; browsing and tinkering with the camera. So naturally Mi 10 Note is perfect. I just worry about the size and weight. Is it easy to get use to it?
I'm mostly worried that adding 100$+ for the cameras (comparing to 9T) simply doesn't worth it.
The Note 10 has the exact same specifications in terms for cpu and graphics with the 9T.
The main difference are the cameras.
If the 730 does not stand up with the required performance for such great lens power, there's no use to it.
So here I am puzzled between 9T and Note 10...