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When lower volume tones play or any audio through speakers that is not loud, speakers have static. Also speaker on left of tablet is quieter than speaker on right side of tablet.
Every once in a great while tablet powers itself off. Or its own apps that are installed by default have FC issues. After it goes into standby, wifi resets itself and takes a minute to reconnect. Wifi signal strength stock is very good!
have not tried headphone jack yet!
Also this is a big one... The built in microphone when recording any kind of audio has a low sensitive volume level. If the tablet is half a foot to a foot away from your face the microphone picks you up and records but the sensitivity is so low when you play it back you can barely hear it. Same goes for yahoo messenger using it for voice or video chat. If you put the microphone hole on bottom of tablet right by your mouth like an inch or so away, then it picks you up good and clear and is audible when you play it back or voice/video chat. Then this defeats the purpose because the tablet is to close to face to use the camera and mic up close at the same time.
Anyone else have these issues on their tablet?
thanks!
any fixes?
P.S. battery seems to drain pretty quickly while in use and also in standby mode probably since the wifi is having issues and not power saving anything. I do not know if this thing can go 8 hours or so watching a movie unless wifi is off and everything else is not running in background!
I'm not sure what the issue may be with your battery but I've had two of these and have gotten nothing but excellent battery life stock or otherwise. I would really look into seeing if something is hung in the background. I just took a flight and watched a movie and still had over 90% left afterwars and most people are reporting the same. One user reported an issue with ' cell standby' milking his battery but I know rothnic removed that in the zpad .3 version rom.
Good luck.
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Could be a bad unit. Battery life is great. Sound quality too.
I am so impressed with the power, battery life and sound quality, I will wait & hope for a Tegra 2 phone by VZW.
So then is anyone having the same issues I am with the microphone recording volume being so low???
Yes my microphone blows. Battery is pretty impressive, but I agree the default programs FC a lot. I'm using Dolphin mainly for browsing and it gives me lots of "Error 400."
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So then is anyone having the same issues I am with the microphone recording volume being so low???
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Yes, mine is the same way.
P.S. Did you get your ViewSonic beta tester T-shirt yet?
Not yet! I would like one though! ViewSonic has gone down the tube like most companys. They use to be a great company with A+ support for their monitors and lcd screens. For a tablet made in china with so many problems that they slapped their sticker on and sold, this is making them look like crap.
I do not understand how apps on android can force close themselves! It means it has to do with memory allocation or bad memory that fails crc issues...
Maybe since the tablet has 512mb of ram and androind 2.2 aka froyo is not made to work with tablets with dual core cpus and an nvidia gpu that apps and there cache+data are getting lost in all the available memory and cannot be recovered so they crash.
For a microphone installed into a tablet you would think it would be more sensitive meaning louder and more volume without over doing it. Also installing speakers correctly at the same exact location on each side inside of tablet. Also equalizing the volume for each one.
Of course I will probably be returning this thing back to staples for two reasons.
1. If I did not own multiple pc computers and laptops this would not work in their place since its so unstable!!!!
2. by the time if they try to get the software right, gingerbread/honeycomb will be out next year. With that os out and about of course the new tablets with dual core cpus and using nvidia tegra 3 or 4 chipsets will be available besides dual core arm processors with dual core gpu chipsets.
400 dollars is a lot of money to beta test a hardware tablet that is not capable of running an older os that does not support it. If out of the box you could play videos, listen to music, browse the web, install apps and they all work, and nothing crashes and the tablet can stay on 24/7 being used or in standby, then this might be worth something. It does none of these things even after using whatever custom firmware and software you can find because the base operating system files were made for phones not tablets or pcs. The crappy apple Ipad works so well because they finally got the IOS to not only support the ipad but to actually run stable under everything even on a tablet which is just a vblown up ipod/iphone.
At least samsung with the galaxy s made it look like a big phone in the hardware arena so all apps work! and its got a great screen!!! To bad its a 7 inch phone hahaha!
I currently have a Vibrant and I feel like this phone was a total POS until almost 6month later when voodoo lag fix came along and ROMS started to come out that had working GPS, better data, etc etc... If not for the dev community I would have thrown this thing out the window the 2nd time the GPS couldn't find me on google maps...
I love tinkering with a phone, but I also want to start with a phone that doesn't have random reboots, crappy GPS, slow file system lag and all the other crap I had to deal with the Vibrant (and my first android MyTouch 3g)... Althought most issues have been ironed out now, it took almost a year since I first purchased my Vibrant, and I am looking to upgrade either to G2x, Sensation or GSII. Don't want to start a battle which is better, but from what I gathered so far from G2x:
-Screen: hit or miss, some complain about bleed, some say its the best thing ever... seems like the quality control is really a hit or miss with the display
-Data: Won't connect to 4g network, generally seems to be unreliable and signal strength weaker than most phones but has a great GPS
-Battery: Heard there is a battery drain issue, some say its corrected with factory reset?
-Integration: Stock android 2.2? So I am guessing contacts aren't linked together to social network profiles?
-Build Quality: Better than most other phones, rock solid not many complain
-Speed: Looks like its a pretty quick phone for running on an un-optimized OS, will get quicker with updates
Before anyone starts praising and telling me this phones potential and that CM is going to make this awesome, I really don't care... my Vibrant had the potential to not be a total POS either, a year later its somewhat tolerable and right about the time when dual core phones have come out and me starting to look for upgrade. So I guess I just want to know what are some known issues with the phone today that you guys have noticed. I know there is no perfect phone, but I want something that can be tolerable for at least a little while before a custom rom comes out that doesn't breaks more things than it fixes
Me Personnally
I too also came from the vibrants ., and was also fed up with the crappy support from samsung, and that an official cm has still not seen the light of day.
Thats the reason i got the g2x. From what i heard, its completely open. Alot of the top devs for cm have or are getting the phone.
I think the screen bleed is something that everyone is going to have to get used too. I have some bleeds at the corner of my screen too.
Performance wise; without tweaks, just straight out of the box for me, this has destroyed my vibrant with teamweaskys latest rom.
I wont get the sensation because of the locked bootloader, and i am not going to trust or put up with the crap that samsung gave us with the vibrant.
This phone is AWESOME!!!!!!! i am loving it so much.
apart from the screen bleed, all the other issues you see here, are all temporary, i mean real temporary.
Ps
Saw a tweet come in with some peeps already running gingerbread on there gx2
Same Reason why I bought the phoen was because the bootloader is unlocked, but unfortunately this phone has to many other issue's.
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-Screen: hit or miss, some complain about bleed, some say its the best thing ever... seems like the quality control is really a hit or miss with the display
-Data: Won't connect to 4g network, generally seems to be unreliable and signal strength weaker than most phones but has a great GPS
-Battery: Heard there is a battery drain issue, some say its corrected with factory reset?
-Integration: Stock android 2.2? So I am guessing contacts aren't linked together to social network profiles?
-Build Quality: Better than most other phones, rock solid not many complain
-Speed: Looks like its a pretty quick phone for running on an un-optimized OS, will get quicker with updates
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These are my opinions.
-Screen: Yes, some bleed more than others. I think this issue has been blown way out of proportion as it seems the majority of users have to manipulate screen brightness, environment and content displayed on the screen in order to show bleed.
-Data: I only have 2G in my area. When I'm out in 4G areas away from home, I just set the connection to force 4G data and it's smokin' fast, never drops.
-GPS: Most of the time it locks on instantly for me on any Froyo ROM. Sometimes it takes about 60 seconds. If it looks like it's going to take a while, I usually close Maps, open GPS Status & Toolbox to refresh the AGPS data and it'll lock solid again. This should be fixed as soon as Gingerbread drivers are available.
-Battery: Battery is up to par with other Android phones in my opinion. Seems better on any tweaked out Froyo or Gingerbread ROM.
-Integration: I don't use social network/contact integration so I can't even touch on this. Don't know how and not interested. Sorry.
-Build Quality: Good weight, doesn't feel cheap. Generally accepted that it has Gorilla Glass. I have a couple extremely light scratches on my screen, so it's probably a good idea to get a screen protector if you care about such things. I just haven't touched a screen protector I like so I don't use one. I've taken the back off about 15 times and there is now one spot on the phone that if I squeeze, it creaks a little bit. Can't tell with normal use and still feels solid.
-Speed: Stock ROM is a little sluggish but with a couple flashable mods, maybe a kernel, this phone is super fast. I don't even feel the need to overclock. Currently running EaglesBlood Froyo 1.05 with faux's froyo kernel at the time of this writing.
Hope some of this helps you out.
Edit: And with an unlocked bootloader, just flash recovery and start crackflashing away. Love not messing with bootloaders.
Add Randomly REFORMATS to the list. My phone has reformatted itself randomly three times now since i've had it. stock. Once it like forgot it had an OS and just kept looping itself and then installed the OS randomly. Badass phone.
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Add Randomly REFORMATS to the list. My phone has reformatted itself randomly three times now since i've had it. stock. Once it like forgot it had an OS and just kept looping itself and then installed the OS randomly. Badass phone.
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I can atest this also has happened to me. LG has a class action suit against them, you should all file your complaints.
I made a thread about this because it could give insight as to whether there are deeper hardware issues that could lead to some of these software instabilities;
The 3.5 mm audio jack has very audible noise/hiss on it when the amplifier is turned on (up to 1 second after any sound finishes playing, such as after the tone you hear when changing the ringer volume). This should be completely inaudible if the circuit itself is designed properly and everything is shielded where it should be, and if the components related to power supply/filtering are working properly. If someone could test this (takes 5 seconds) with their good and faulty phones, stock or modded, it may demonstrate something.
More: non-reboot bugs. On pressing the power button to unlock the phone today (3 days since factory reset, 1.5 weeks since buying) the unlock slider is missing, except for the white triangle pointing to the right. Sliding it makes it appear and play the animation, and it appears next unlock.
Another random: Holding volume down until it is vibrating non-stop and then powering down the phone causes some apps to show and do random things after the power down animation plays, before the screen suddenly blanks.
I still urge owners of variably configured G2x's to test for the presence of noise as described in my thread- if LG has hardware problems instead of all software, not everything is safe by modding the ROM. Perhaps the noise is shoddy software coding. The DAC and opamps used here would not create that, only the circuit design.
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I made a thread about this because it could give insight as to whether there are deeper hardware issues that could lead to some of these software instabilities;
The 3.5 mm audio jack has very audible noise/hiss on it when the amplifier is turned on (up to 1 second after any sound finishes playing, such as after the tone you hear when changing the ringer volume). This should be completely inaudible if the circuit itself is designed properly and everything is shielded where it should be, and if the components related to power supply/filtering are working properly. If someone could test this (takes 5 seconds) with their good and faulty phones, stock or modded, it may demonstrate something.
More: non-reboot bugs. On pressing the power button to unlock the phone today (3 days since factory reset, 1.5 weeks since buying) the unlock slider is missing, except for the white triangle pointing to the right. Sliding it makes it appear and play the animation, and it appears next unlock.
Another random: Holding volume down until it is vibrating non-stop and then powering down the phone causes some apps to show and do random things after the power down animation plays, before the screen suddenly blanks.
I still urge owners of variably configured G2x's to test for the presence of noise as described in my thread- if LG has hardware problems instead of all software, not everything is safe by modding the ROM. Perhaps the noise is shoddy software coding. The DAC and opamps used here would not create that, only the circuit design.
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I don't even think I own a pair of headphones anymore... hahaha. I'll try this with a set of powered speakers as soon as my children let me.
Wow I was going to buy G2x. Can anybody answer about 4G data part who use it on regular basis? Is it really not reliable?
I was thinking of upgrading from HD2 to g2x mainly because of 4G and front camera, but if 4G is not properly working on this one, I have to select some different phone then..
I'm curious if there are any forum members that replaced the Samsung S7 with the Google Pixel. I have one pre-ordered and I'm glad for the wait, but I would like to hear from those that are moving from Samsung to this phone. I've had stock Android before with the Nexus 6P. How do the two compare as far as battery life, photos and day to day functionality.
I've seen the YouTube reviews, but they are mixed and who knows if they are paid reviews.
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Here are my first impressions. I posted this originally on TheVerge
Setup of this phone was the fastest I have ever done. More apps are taking advantage of the Google Drive backups and using the cable to plug directly into my S7 Edge allowed me to move over 3.3 GB of data in 3 minutes. Additionally I had to install 92 more apps which seemed to just fly through. I had to sign in to a few but DashLane helped speed that process up
No more grinding down to a stall when installing apps. One thing that annoyed me about pretty much all Android devices especially the S7 Edge was the fact the entire system will just slow down to almost a complete standstill when apps where updating. Not the Pixel, didn't even realize app updates where happening in the background. I can actually use my phone while an app is updating.
Hey look! The Pixel can charge my Galaxy S7. This may come in handy in a crunch with my iPhone
It is still going to take me a while to get used to the button placements on the Pixel after using the S7 which had them reversed. I still think there are capacitive buttons in there to sometimes as I press the non functional chin.
Wow my Tile now works correctly. It ill now ring my phone when I press the button like it is supposed to do. This feature never worked on the S7 Edge.
Whatever DAC their using in this phone sounds great. Had me lit on Young Jeezy driving to work. However, where is the damn equalizer?
I prefer Action Launcher to the Pixel Launcher. Swiping for the shortcuts seems more intuitive than long pressing.
Built in Visual Voicemail is sweet. Maybe I can finally stop using Google Voice for VM. I would like transcription though which would be nice.
I dig the notification sounds
Fingerprint sensor is so much better than the S7 Edge
Double Tap to open an notification at the lockscreen. Geez here have you been all my life. Its the small things.
All in all I'm liking this phone. After being in the Samsung camp for my past 2 phones S6 Edge and S7 Edge I am happy to be back to the Googlish way of doing Android.
I came from a Samsung Galaxy S7 and love it. I am on Verizon but I bought my Pixel from the Google Store. Battery life for me anyway is better despite having a smaller battery in the Pixel. I could definitely get 2 days out of this phone. I am a light to medium user. I am actually sick at home so I haven't tried out the camera much. I thought I would miss at first some of TouchWiz features, but I don't miss them at all. Day to day use: everything works great as expected from a high end smartphone. No issues yet. I am glad I made the jump. The stock ui is a nice to have back. I had the Nexus 5 a while back. Glad to be back to Google's stuff. I do miss the waterproofing though. But I will manage.
Bruce,
Thanks. I'm a medium to heavy user. I normally put 2.5 to 3 hours of screen on time daily and I make it through the day. I look forward to getting the pixel at the end of November. I trying to wait for Google and other break down and order from Verizon.
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I was a die hard Samsung user. I had the S4, S5, S6 and the S7. Before that I had the first Nexus out. When I heard about the Google Pixel and that it was high end hardware I thought I'd give it a try and get back to the Google Android experience. Since I've had it I love it and am not looking back. Battery life is better, it is more responsive, camera is great. I too thought I'd miss some of the features on the S7 but not the case at all. I see this phone offers a lot of good features out of the box and very customizable.
Don't regret the move at all.
Edit: and the fingerprint sensor is more accurate and responsive.
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Here are my first impressions. I posted this originally on TheVerge
Setup of this phone was the fastest I have ever done. More apps are taking advantage of the Google Drive backups and using the cable to plug directly into my S7 Edge allowed me to move over 3.3 GB of data in 3 minutes. Additionally I had to install 92 more apps which seemed to just fly through. I had to sign in to a few but DashLane helped speed that process up
No more grinding down to a stall when installing apps. One thing that annoyed me about pretty much all Android devices especially the S7 Edge was the fact the entire system will just slow down to almost a complete standstill when apps where updating. Not the Pixel, didn't even realize app updates where happening in the background. I can actually use my phone while an app is updating.
Hey look! The Pixel can charge my Galaxy S7. This may come in handy in a crunch with my iPhone
All in all I'm liking this phone. After being in the Samsung camp for my past 2 phones S6 Edge and S7 Edge I am happy to be back to the Googlish way of doing Android.
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I never have any problem with my S7 edge with exynos as far as phone stalling....
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for what its worth, the S7 edge is the only phone right now with the longest lasting battery. I had the I7 for a month and would constantly have to charged by 5 pm everyday (unplug at 7) my S7 edge would get through 8-9 pm with 41% left. Honestly, the only thing that hold me back from getting the pixel 1. its made by HTC 2. no Always on display. 3. IP68 rating 4. dual speakers...my S7 edge and i'm sure S7 exynos variant can be flash to utilize dual speakers.
I had the 6p a while back too, if its not for the snapdragon 810 with the 28mm architecture, I would've kept the phone, Samsung perfected the 14mm architechture with their in-house chip and its a wonderful experience now.
Things I miss from the S7:
- Wireless charging
- microSD card capabilities
- Folders in the stock app drawer (fixed with Nova Launcher, paid version)
- Charging status LED (fixed with Light Manager, free version)
- Gear S2 capabilities (moved onto Android Wear, but still)
- Functional "Smart Switch". Didn't want to work, so I had to transfer via Bluetooth and manual setup
- Physical "home" button for waking up screen during calls (I'm hesitant to press power button on important calls as that's my "hang up" button)
- Root/Xposed (won't be long though)
- Apps broken with Nougat (R.I.P. Llama)
Things I love on the Pixel:
- Far better camera
- USB type C
- MUCH faster phone in general. Hardly any lag at all. S7 lagged big time when I traded it in, still not sure why.
- Official Google support
- Google apps not as forced as Samsung apps (automatic photo backup for example is easy to prevent)
- Default apps perform better
- No bloat. S7 had some NFL crap and 3-4 games that I couldn't remove. Pixel had none of that. Bought from Verizon too.
- No TouchWiz stupidity (remember "I'll just save this selection as default without asking you if you wanted that"? Pixel asks every time if you want)
Comparable between both:
- Screenshots (power + home for S7, power + Volume Down on Pixel)
- Internal storage (both were 128 GB)
I'm sure there's more, but that's off the top of my head. Bottom line is Pixel is far better at what it's designed for, but I do still miss the microSD and wireless charging capabilities. I can live without them however.
This is really interesting feedback as I am trying to decide right now between the Pixel and the S7.
The two things I am pretty interested in knowing about are battery life and durability (Ive had an S4 for years, dropped it plenty of times and while there are a few dings around the edges, that phone keeps on rocking).
Anyone else have thoughts after having used both phones?
I also came from the s7.
My only thing I really miss is my Tumi case I had for it. I'm hoping they will make one for the pixel. Otherwise the pixel performs better, great photos, fingerprint is very fast. I would get lagging all the time on the s7, probably touch wiz related.
I've had 2 instances where my Bluetooth quit playing music from Google play on my Toyota Camry, I've had to restart my car to get it to connect again. I'm still troubleshooting if it's the car, Google play or the phone. I've used Spotify in the past and never had the issue.
My battery is much better and quick charging also works great. I have no problem getting through the day without running my battery down
I have a galaxy gear that appears to work perfectly with it.
I don't have an SD card on my s7 and haven't needed one. So that's not an issue. I have however used up my Dropbox 10gb in the past so the unlimited photo storage is nice.
I've had mine for about a week now and just sent my s7 in for the edge up.
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- Physical "home" button for waking up screen during calls (I'm hesitant to press power button on important calls as that's my "hang up" button)
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You should be able to touch the fingerprint sensor to wake the phone while in a call.
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You should be able to touch the fingerprint sensor to wake the phone while in a call.
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Fancy that! I'll give that a try
coming from S7 Edge you will NOT like the volume level while you're on speaker phone calls or youtubing on the toilet lol ,,,,I am waiting for volume mod on this thing,,other than that you'll love the phone,,even if she doesn't wireless charge,,oh also the charging times it's bull sheet,,,i timed it 15 mins 7 hours more like 30 to 45 mins charge still fast but not that google bullcrap fast,,,standby battery time it's pretty good better than S7 Edge kind of like the iPhone on standby where your battery percentage seem to not go down too fast,,anyone agree?
HeCareth said:
Here are my first impressions. I posted this originally on TheVerge
Setup of this phone was the fastest I have ever done. More apps are taking advantage of the Google Drive backups and using the cable to plug directly into my S7 Edge allowed me to move over 3.3 GB of data in 3 minutes. Additionally I had to install 92 more apps which seemed to just fly through. I had to sign in to a few but DashLane helped speed that process up
No more grinding down to a stall when installing apps. One thing that annoyed me about pretty much all Android devices especially the S7 Edge was the fact the entire system will just slow down to almost a complete standstill when apps where updating. Not the Pixel, didn't even realize app updates where happening in the background. I can actually use my phone while an app is updating.
Hey look! The Pixel can charge my Galaxy S7. This may come in handy in a crunch with my iPhone
It is still going to take me a while to get used to the button placements on the Pixel after using the S7 which had them reversed. I still think there are capacitive buttons in there to sometimes as I press the non functional chin.
Wow my Tile now works correctly. It ill now ring my phone when I press the button like it is supposed to do. This feature never worked on the S7 Edge.
Whatever DAC their using in this phone sounds great. Had me lit on Young Jeezy driving to work. However, where is the damn equalizer?
I prefer Action Launcher to the Pixel Launcher. Swiping for the shortcuts seems more intuitive than long pressing.
Built in Visual Voicemail is sweet. Maybe I can finally stop using Google Voice for VM. I would like transcription though which would be nice.
I dig the notification sounds
Fingerprint sensor is so much better than the S7 Edge
Double Tap to open an notification at the lockscreen. Geez here have you been all my life. Its the small things.
All in all I'm liking this phone. After being in the Samsung camp for my past 2 phones S6 Edge and S7 Edge I am happy to be back to the Googlish way of doing Android.
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Cons:- no Waterproofing, no wireless charger, no SD slot, no removable battery, no IR blaster, no dual stereo speakers very less features no themes support for example, big bezels, looks ugly from behind and very overpriced.
just very basic bore-bones boring Google Pixel.
you can get Pixel launcher and Google assistant for FREE if you Root and install custom ROM so whats the big deal?
Pros:-
Excellent Screen, Excellent Camera, very fast and smooth, fast updates, excellent build quality, unlocked boot loader. i love the finger print scanner on the back with gestures, swipe up and down.
but the very high price outweighs the good points.
even OnePlus 3, ZTE Axon 7, Moto Z play, Honor 8 are better buy less price more software and hardware features.
if you want to know which is better between Galaxy S7 Edge and Google Pixel the answer is very clear galaxy S7 win's hands down.
youtube channel's like CNET are biased.
people think it's the iPhone from far away or even from just couple feet away. Phone is awesome just the hardware doesn't have an identity yet lol
Curious to hear more about the battery-life comparisons between the S7 (non-Edge) and Pixel. In this thread a few have said the Pixel wins, but I've read plenty of other reviews that suggest they're on par when it comes to battery life/SoT.
Battery life and Camera quality are the top-two priorities for me -- sounds like camera quality is about equal although the S7 does offer RAW support, which AFAIK the Pixel does not (at least not without a third party app). S7's default camera app also seems a lot more comprehensive than the Pixel's
In my test the pixel standby is definitely longer I have S7 Edge and standby will go down much quicker
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In my test the pixel standby is definitely longer I have S7 Edge and standby will go down much quicker
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This. S7 standby is not good. I find my Pixel does much better in standby mode.
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This. S7 standby is not good. I find my Pixel does much better in standby mode.
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Good to know. Thanks. And is SoT about the same between them with, say, heavy use in one day?
I can't say--I have not done an SOT test as all my use is mixed. A heavy use day for me is 3 hours of SOT and just about any phone can handle that. I did have occasion to charge the S7 during the day. That's rare with my Pixel.
I went from the stock Unlocked S7, which ide expect to be the closest to the Play Store Pixel - both lacking carrier bloat. Having said that, the Pixel outperforms the S7 hands down on battery life and performance. I don't have anything scientific, but I simply replaced my S7 with a pixel as my daily driver. I didn't change my habits (if anything I use my Pixel more). At the end of the day my S7 would be in the ~20% range. Currently at the same time everyday my Pixel is at ~60%. The difference is drastic and very noticeable.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Elephone S8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Elephone S8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
too much problem
I have no problems at all:
Fast speed (I don't play games)
64gb is enough for me (10gb in use)
4gb is enough for me
Usb-c audio jack adapter works well
YouTube works (I don't use Netflix)
I don't use Facebook (Facebook playback issue)
Camera works well with "Google camera app" ver. 7.0
Screen and body is perfect designed
Weight is normal
Finger sensor is fast
Operation system is clean
GPS works well with only GPS (don't use 4G/3G for navigation)
Listen Music over Bluetooth, it's important to first connect the device and then restart the music app
Wish a nice day
Much the same situation. S8 is my third and last Elephone. My S7 was fine and still is after passing on to my wife. I wanted the big 2K screen and the 21MP camera. I got the big beautiful display but basically a useless camera. The S8 is now my mini tablet used for web browsing, ebook reader, email and occasional Youtube and it works fine for that. I gave up on it as a carry around phone after trying to take a video of a baby turtle release while on vacation in Mexico, a "once in a lifetime experience". Unwatchable with the continual hunting for focus. I have replaced it as a phone with a 5 inch screen, Helio X20, 3GB, 32GB (with a 128GB SD card) Kodak phone and a 21 megapixel camera that actually works ! It is very disappointing that Elephone has not tried to fix the camera bug since last October and I doubt that an Oreo upgrade is at the top of anyone's list. I have not tried Google Camera 7.0 and will not bother because I have my very good replacement. Shame because I could have bought a very good 7 inch tablet for less money to do the same thing.
I have to say this phone has exceeded my expectations in every way.
* Battery life is amazing once you remove the spyware. 2-3 days of normal use for me, and that's with Life-360 on all the time. No idea how much SOT but I'd guess double my old Oneplus One..
* That screen .... I never get tired of it. Really the design as a whole is far above what I was expecting in a cheap phone.
* Fingerprint sensor is super fast and reliable
* The OS seems solid as a rock. I've seen no problems with calls, wifi or bluetooth, and it hasn't crashed on me once.
As for the supposed cons:
* No notification LED is no problem - just configure the NoLED app and it's brilliant.
* Likewise the camera seems fine on mine. I used Open Camera for a few minutes and it seems just the same as my old Oneplus.
* I don't see any of the video sync issues people talk about either. I don't use netflix so maybe that's still broken but ... look, it's 2018, get yourself a VPN and live free.
* If you're into action games the decacore CPU sucks down juice like there's no tomorrow. In fact, no today. But I don't play action games. A little Monument Valley 2 on the way to sleep maybe.
I expect this will be my daily driver for at least the next 2 years. Loving it.
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I have to say this phone has exceeded my expectations in every way.
* Battery life is amazing once you remove the spyware. 2-3 days of normal use for me, and that's with Life-360 on all the time. No idea how much SOT but I'd guess double my old Oneplus One..
* That screen .... I never get tired of it. Really the design as a whole is far above what I was expecting in a cheap phone.
* Fingerprint sensor is super fast and reliable
* The OS seems solid as a rock. I've seen no problems with calls, wifi or bluetooth, and it hasn't crashed on me once.
As for the supposed cons:
* No notification LED is no problem - just configure the NoLED app and it's brilliant.
* Likewise the camera seems fine on mine. I used Open Camera for a few minutes and it seems just the same as my old Oneplus.
* I don't see any of the video sync issues people talk about either. I don't use netflix so maybe that's still broken but ... look, it's 2018, get yourself a VPN and live free.
* If you're into action games the decacore CPU sucks down juice like there's no tomorrow. In fact, no today. But I don't play action games. A little Monument Valley 2 on the way to sleep maybe.
I expect this will be my daily driver for at least the next 2 years. Loving it.
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How did you remove the Spyware?
I'm guessing you rooted your phone but your still using stock rom?
No need to root the phone, just install ADB and then https://forum.xda-developers.com/elephone-s8/how-to/beware-com-adups-fota-myapplication-t3741622
BragaisG said:
How did you remove the Spyware?
I'm guessing you rooted your phone but your still using stock rom?
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Does anyone screen suffer from bright spots that is more noticeable on white backgrounds?
The only problem I have is the WiFi.
I have a 50 mb connection. Near the router it's ok. But move any bit away and it's so slow. In the kitchen, I get 0mb. It's so frustrating.
On all of the other phones in the house, they have perfect wifi.
Is there any fix for this?
Other than this, the phone is really good
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
agree on AI button - hate it! especially in phone case it gets triggered too often just holding the phone
any way to mute that button or change it to another usage? I think I can only deactivate the google assistant itself, but it keeps reacting starting it up and asking to enable the assistant again
steffenmix3 said:
agree on AI button - hate it! especially in phone case it gets triggered too often just holding the phone
any way to mute that button or change it to another usage? I think I can only deactivate the google assistant itself, but it keeps reacting starting it up and asking to enable the assistant again
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There is a magisk module to remapped the button
dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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Totally agree with the AI button thing, I click it ALL the time by accident it's super annoying. There is a thread on XDA for changing the functionality and a Magisk module as well. The Magisk module is for the Mi 9 but may work for the Mix 3 as well, not entirely sure on that. I haven't experienced the Bluetooth issues though, and I have the global hardware (6 GB RAM 128 GB ROM). My Bluetooth works flawlessly. The slider does feel a bit inconsistent, not sure how/why but I rarely use the selfie camera anyway so it's not a big deal for me. I feel like the battery is pretty average for a smartphone, nothing great but not bad. I can usually get through a day with it and its better than my V30 so that's a plus. Hope you're still enjoying the phone overall!
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raven213 said:
There is a magisk module to remapped the button
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Are you talking about the one for the Mi 9? It works fine for the Mix 3 too?
Rockmadeofrock said:
Totally agree with the AI button thing, I click it ALL the time by accident it's super annoying. I've been looking for a way to disable it entirely but haven't found anything I understand yet. I'll keep you updated on that. I haven't experienced the Bluetooth issues though, and I have the global hardware (6 GB RAM 128 GB ROM). My Bluetooth works flawlessly. The slider does feel a bit inconsistent, not sure how/why but I rarely use the selfie camera anyway so it's not a big deal for me. I feel like the battery is pretty average for a smartphone, nothing great but not bad. I can usually get through a day with it and its better than my V30 so that's a plus. Hope you're still enjoying the phone overall!
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Are you talking about the one for the Mi 9? It works fine for the Mix 3 too?
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Yeah it should be check on magisk it's there it's called Xiaomi AI remapper
raven213 said:
Yeah it should be check on magisk it's there it's called Xiaomi AI remapper
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Awesome thanks!
Rockmadeofrock said:
Awesome thanks!
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No problem
Personally, I don't have any issues with the thickness and actually, it makes it easier to hold with my large hands. I have had thinner devices, like the LG V30, S9 Plus, and Note 9, but they just feel like toys by comparison.
The AI button isn't an issue for me. I am not rooted but I have used ADB to uninstall Xiaomi's when I was using the Chinese ROM my device came with and used ADB to remove Google Assistant when I installed the Global Stable ROM. I have no issues finishing a day of very heavy use with about 10% battery left using both SIM slots simultaneously. On average, I finish my day with about 30% left, but I do travel often, so those days, I spend more time watching YouTube on planes and texting more than anything else. I have used ADB though to remove a lot of bloat that can run and waste battery life.
I don't use Bluetooth devices at all so i can't really comment on how well or how well it doesn't work on the Mi MIX 3. However, many devices do experience Bluetooth issues for various reasons. Firmware updates for cars or the Bluetooth in the device itself is usually the more common answer. No manufacturer is exempt from these issues.
I definitely agree with the earpiece. Because it is technically set in the bottom part of the device, it has to send sound straight through the other to get to your ear. If your ear is right over the hole where this comes through, it's fine, but it does take some getting used to and makes it hard to rest the phone on your shoulder and still talk on it.
I haven't had any issues with the slider. From the day I got my device, the slider has been stiff and robust. I often use it just fiddling around as well. The magnets pull and push feel just as strong as the day I opened the box. I also haven't noticed the screen being on when it is in my pocket and have never had my screen on when removing it from my pocket. I do have double tap to wake and lift to turn on the screen disabled though. Perhaps it is one or a combination of both of those settings causing that issue for you.
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jcsww said:
Personally, I don't have any issues with the thickness and actually, it makes it easier to hold with my large hands. I have had thinner devices, like the LG V30, S9 Plus, and Note 9, but they just feel like toys by comparison.
The AI button isn't an issue for me. I am not rooted but I have used ADB to uninstall Xiaomi's when I was using the Chinese ROM my device came with and used ADB to remove Google Assistant when I installed the Global Stable ROM. I have no issues finishing a day of very heavy use with about 10% battery left using both SIM slots simultaneously. On average, I finish my day with about 30% left, but I do travel often, so those days, I spend more time watching YouTube on planes and texting more than anything else. I have used ADB though to remove a lot of bloat that can run and waste battery life.
I don't use Bluetooth devices at all so i can't really comment on how well or how well it doesn't work on the Mi MIX 3. However, many devices do experience Bluetooth issues for various reasons. Firmware updates for cars or the Bluetooth in the device itself is usually the more common answer. No manufacturer is exempt from these issues.
I definitely agree with the earpiece. Because it is technically set in the bottom part of the device, it has to send sound straight through the other to get to your ear. If your ear is right over the hole where this comes through, it's fine, but it does take some getting used to and makes it hard to rest the phone on your shoulder and still talk on it.
I haven't had any issues with the slider. From the day I got my device, the slider has been stiff and robust. I often use it just fiddling around as well. The magnets pull and push feel just as strong as the day I opened the box. I also haven't noticed the screen being on when it is in my pocket and have never had my screen on when removing it from my pocket. I do have double tap to wake and lift to turn on the screen disabled though. Perhaps it is one or a combination of both of those settings causing that issue for you.
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I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places
georgito said:
I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places
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I have some issues with MIUI as well. Would they stop me from buying another Xiaomi device? No.
Tue stock apps suck! The default Messaging app doesn't support rotation and doesn't display group texts under those in that. It splits tue group texts under their individual threads. Changing Messaging apps leaves me with notification sounds that can't be changed because Xiaomi developers are stuck in the years of KitKat with how their sounds work!
The change to not being able to lock the bootloader when switching ROM's is probably the worst I can think of. I get the reasoning behind the change but I bought thebChinese model as the Chinese model because I wanted more RAM.
MIUI settings are also lacking when it comes to restricting roaming from one SIM but not the other.
My T-Mobile plan works in multiple countries and I want that to roam when outside of the US. My Telus SIM though is insane for roaming so I don't want that SIM roaming but I want that SIM left enabled to see who calls and texts.
All that said and a few more gripes. The Mi MIX 3 is still a superb device and one I don't regret buying.
Notifications are awful. I have yet to have a notification display on the lock screen. When I do receive new mail or an SMS message, it can take up to 40 minutes before notifying me if the screen is off. If the screen is on I get the notification within a couple of minutes but that is only if the screen is on. Screen on means the screen is being displayed and the lock screen has been dismissed. It does not mean that the always on ambient display is on. That is just as bad as the display being completely off which makes me think that the problem lies with the phone being locked and is not just an over aggressive doze problem. I am using the notification repeater app and I also use Auto-notifications with its notification categories feature. Both of those have helped a little bit but it is rare that I get a notification within 10 minutes of my phone receiving e-mail or text messages when the screen is off (10 minutes is actually good).
There is also an issue with Android calendars. These aren't the calendars attached to your gmail account and they are not local calendars as well. Android calendars are usually created by 3rd party apps that offer holiday calendars for every country, sports scedules for every NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL and NCAA teams (motor sports and European football in some apps). The apps that also create TV listing calendars create their calendars as Android calendars. Any calendar app for Android can display them and you can choose to display or hide them individually within any android based calendar apps. Not with MIUI though. I can see them in the settings of any calendar app I install and can set them as hidden or viewable but they will not display as a calendar in any calendar app. MIUI has a few nice features but it is not worth the lack of timely notifications and it would also be nice if I could actually display all of my calendars. I have gone the custom GSI route and there were issues with every GSI based ROM I tried. I could install every GSI ROM I tried. I could even install Resurrection Remix GSI without a problem (repairing and resizing the system partition so you can install GAPPS is easier than most people realize. I kept running into deal breaker isssues with each GSI ROM though. I don't remember what the issue was with BlissROM but I do remember taking half a day to try and find a work around to no avail. Pixel Dust had an annoying random reboot problem and Resurrection Remix seemed to work just fine until it randomly would display a Setting up phone message after logging into the phone at a very random time. It would sometimes do this somewhere with the first few hours of use but could go as long as a day and a half before doing it. The only way to get past that screen was to get into the phones settings and clear out your fingerprints and set the phone to not require any type of password, pin or pattern. Once you clear those out the phone will continue to boot. If you want security you will need to setup security again and you will find yourself doing this all over again anywhere within the next hour too 24 hours. This is a known issue and there is a thread about it. It is a ROM issue because it is doing it on many different brands of phones. It is doing it very randomly though and the developers of the ROM have not had it happen to one of their phones yet. It makes the ROM unusable for those of us that are running into it though which is why I am back to MIUI (eu version) and in my opinion, MIUI ruins what would be a very good phone experience.
The pocket detection is occasionally driving me crazy, it's an issue on the PE rom too. The settings pull-down is active even on the lock screen, so while it's in my pocket it will sometimes turn wifi/bluetooth on or off, etc. I'm hoping the Cyanogen rom will eventually improve this. Only seems to be a problem for me when the radio app is automatically activated when I turn on my bluetooth headset.
Bluetooth connection also causes me some minor irritation. It won't auto-connect to the A2DP unit in my car, although it does connect to the phone module. I've been looking through the configuration files trying to find something to tweak this, but the structure of the current roms makes finding anything useful almost impossible.
AI button, also a hassle, but it can't be that bad because I haven't bothered to install the Magisk module to remap it yet. I much prefer a button to call up the assistant rather than "ok google".
Battery, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I guess it depends on what device you came from. This device is far and away the most battery frugal I've ever had, by a long shot, and the speed of the wireless charging makes it even better.
I never have a problem with the earpiece, but I do remove the lint from it fairly regularly, maybe that's the problem? If anything, the sound on calls I would rate as way better than previous phones.
My slider mechanism is also variable. Sometimes it's perfect, other times it's hard to get it to slide, but I think it's more to do with the friction from my fingers than the mechanism itself, sometimes the surfaces feel super-slippery! Give me cheap, rubberized plastic and a removable rear cover and battery every day of the week!
invisiblewave said:
Battery, I have no idea what you're talking about, but I guess it depends on what device you came from. This device is far and away the most battery frugal I've ever had, by a long shot, and the speed of the wireless charging makes it even better.
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I guess you are right there with the point from where you came from. In comparison to my "old" Huawei Mathe 10 Pro the Battery is bad. But on the other Hand the Mix3 has (fast) Wireless Charging :good:
I checked the last weeks my Battery stats and usage. There was nothing uncommon. To me it is not satisfying, especially when I am on a trip (like last week) I barely made it back to the Hotel with a few % left.
Just to get this into Context (for most of you tl;dr):
Listening to music for 2 hrs
Navigation for public transport - also active for 2 hrs
checking Mails - hard to measure
searching for a place for diner - 20 min
checking social media... every minute is too much
In my opinion this is an average usage and therefore the battery is considered bad to me.
dondrexer said:
I guess you are right there with the point from where you came from. In comparison to my "old" Huawei Mathe 10 Pro the Battery is bad. But on the other Hand the Mix3 has (fast) Wireless Charging :good:
I checked the last weeks my Battery stats and usage. There was nothing uncommon. To me it is not satisfying, especially when I am on a trip (like last week) I barely made it back to the Hotel with a few % left.
Just to get this into Context (for most of you tl;dr):
Listening to music for 2 hrs
Navigation for public transport - also active for 2 hrs
checking Mails - hard to measure
searching for a place for diner - 20 min
checking social media... every minute is too much
In my opinion this is an average usage and therefore the battery is considered bad to me.
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I think you must have a problem somewhere. Which software are you running?
georgito said:
I will add one more issue regarding MIUI - can't add trusted device (snartwatch) and trusted places
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That's the deal breaker, had to go custom ROM route, no smart lock is no good.
dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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im very sure the problem with the slider is because of your case, remove ur case and try again move the slider
invisiblewave said:
I think you must have a problem somewhere. Which software are you running?
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Latest weekly. MIUI 10 / 9.5.17 / (weekly)
juninhoak said:
im very sure the problem with the slider is because of your case, remove ur case and try again move the slider
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Appreciate that tipp, but I don't use any case. (Why buy a pretty phone, when you put plastic around it?!) *screen is crying silently in fear :crying: *
Love the phone. The screen, everything. Running Lineage at the moment.
Really hate:
Notifications on MIUI. Seriously.
The process around flashing roms. Vendor image, dirty flash doesnt work (at least for me), switching roms difficult. Just very, very tiresome.
Would I buy it again? Definitely.
dondrexer said:
Hey together. I have been using the Mix3 for a few month now. The black 265GB variant, China version with international Software.
But I got to say that there are a few problems I wasn't able to solve. Maybe you can!
So here is the List
Love
Screen ratio
MIUI
The overall Look. Gave it to a friend so he can call someone... Damn this phone looks good!
Position of Volume-rocker and Powerbutton
Wireless-charging
Not that good or worse
Thickness
The battery lasts barely a day (medium use)
The AI button... I hit this one too often by accident
No pocketdetection. The screen activates too often by accident (while calling, in the pocket or just picking up)
While calling you got to position the speaker very near to your ear, because if you move it a bit you can't understand the one on the other side anymore
inconsitent strength of the magnetic slider (sometimes it moves very hardly and other times too easy)
connection delays with bluetooth devices. If you did not connect a device in the last few days you got to manually connect the device (click on it in bluetooth settings)
If you got solutions for my concerns you can maybe safe it from getting abandoned or beeing forwarded to my brother
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Mine is running rooted crDroid ROM, which allows me to address most of these points.
Thickness: this is a tradeoff for sliding display.
Battery: crDroid is very good battery-wise, but also installed magic module LKT and get easily 1.5 days of heavy use now
AI button: Used magisk module and button remapper APK to remap mine, for me single press does nothing (because like you i press it accidentally all the time) double press toggles flashlight and long press launches google assistant.
Pocket detection: You can enable this in crDroid settings
Holding phone to ear: I don't have this problem
Slider: My slider took a bit of wearing in. That might sound strange but it was a bit squeeky and felt weaker than it should be to begin with but after a few months of use it now feels great.
Bluetooth delays: No idea, never use bluetooth. Sorry about that one.