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Next week getting a new Note 4 - and zerolemon 10,000mah battery!
I need to deep cycle battery 6-8 times to get phone to display the current vbbatt % correctly. The manufacturer for zerolemon says turn off fast charge and charge 12hrs each time.
That being said, with fast charge off, can I use a 5v 3.5 amp charger I see on amazon and possibly charge the phone faster than 12 hrs like normal is using a 2.1 amp charger?
Anyone tried this with let's say even the stock battery does the battery actually charge faster due to the increased amps or would it be a waste and still charges at the slower 2.1 amps?
I never deep cycled the battery and the longest discharge I got was 1 week with 16 hours on screen time...you just need to make sure you use an updated kernel with the zL fix.
The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.
ackliph said:
The amperage rating is the max the charger can put out. The Note will draw the same amperage on either charger because they are both 5V.
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But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z
i just used the stock fast charger on my zerolemmon with fast charge on and i never let it go the full 1 hours. Ive had insane battery life with it so i dont think it matters
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But will the phone charge faster on 3.5 amps at 5v vs the 1.5 amp or 2.1 amp the stock charger puts out? I am getting ZeroLemon and need to deep cycle the battery a few times and am trying to have it fully charged in less than the standard 12 hrs - was hoping a charger with more amps would cut down on the 12 hrs lol
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WN86VYQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3RPN0HBLXDN8Z
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Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.
joeuser said:
Your Note 4 will draw a maximum of 1.9A on a 5V standard charger and a maximum of 1.66A on a 9V Quickcharger. If you multiply these values, you will get your "charging speed" in Watts: The maximum is 9.5W on normal charger and 15W on a quick charger.
Using a higher rated normal charger (eg 5V/3A) will NOT INCREASE charging speed. The Note 4 will never draw more than 1.9A on 5V.
Using a lower rated normal charger (eg 5V/1A) WILL DECREASE the charging speed. The Note 4 will notice that it cannot get 1.9A from the charger and drop the current. Bad and/or long cables can also influence the charging speed negatively.
Also noteworthy: Quick charging will only work when screen is off. As soon as you turn your screen on, the charging speed when connected to a quick charger will drop from 15W to an extremely slow 5W. The only fix for this horrible Samsung joke is a custom ROM like CyanogenMod.
You can charge your Zerolemon battery nicely with the original Quickcharger that came with the phone. That will do 15W and is as fast as you can possibly charge.
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Wow. Good info. Thx. Now a ton with a hack to draw more amps lol. Hmmmm lolol
What is your S8 charging rate? (from 0% to 70%)
Mine is:
Fast charge adapter, fast charge on: 2.4A
Fast charge adapter, fast charge off: 1.6A
1A sony adapter: about 900mAh
Computer: About 500mAh
I tought "normal charge" with the fast adapter would use a lower rate. What do you think? I choose longevity (low current and low temp during charge, not going over 4.1v) over charge time, so i charge the phone to a max of 80% and at the lowest rate possible. I usually plug it in when i get home from work, and about bedtime is charged.
(My 3 year old Z1c still got 1 day battery until i broke the screen)
Fast charge adapter, fast charge on: 2.4A
Fast charge adapter, fast charge off: 1.6A
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I think you mixed up your measurements.
Fast charge is 9V @ 1.67A (15W)
Standard charge is 5V @ 2A (10W)
Is there any cheap alternatives for the 27W sonic charger?
Any qc 4.0+ im using ipad pro 30 w charger
support pd or not ?
bouyhy01 said:
Any qc 4.0+ im using ipad pro 30 w charger
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How much times it takes to charge with 30W charger?
And how much it does charge in first 30mins
MI 9 fast charger 27 w on aliexpress $11 shipped. Works and shows 'turbo charging' (it has to show this otherwise its less than 27w and will show fast charging)
dude0014 said:
MI 9 fast charger 27 w on aliexpress $11 shipped. Works and shows 'turbo charging' (it has to show this otherwise its less than 27w and will show fast charging)
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Please share the link...
Xiaomi offers the qc4 charger for around $4 when you buy the phone in their stores.
Using my girlfriends Huawei p30 pro charger, like 2x faster then the one they sent with the k20 pro
Casseius86 said:
Using my girlfriends Huawei p30 pro charger, like 2x faster then the one they sent with the k20 pro
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seriously ? Like can you specify the charging time?
I mean in 30mins how much it does charge and how much time to get full charged
From 40% to 68% in 30 min
Normal xiaomi charger 66% to 85% in 30 min.
Also the charging icon is different
Casseius86 said:
From 40% to 68% in 30 min
Normal xiaomi charger 66% to 85% in 30 min.
Also the charging icon is different
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Charging from higher percentage will always take longer, no matter what charger you use. For an accurate comparison, charge the phone for example from 10% for half an hour with both chargers.
I just tried the Spigen SteadiBoost PD Chargeur USB 27W and it is NOT compatible Turbo Charge, only QuickCharge.
The mi9t pro/ redmi k20 supports qc4.0 look at the website
https://www.anker.com
https://greencell.global/de/
I bought the last power supply from GC. Very good quality. PD 3.0, fast charging, quick charging etc.
Using MI/ZIMI 1A1C 30W/27W dual charger with Baseus C to C cable. After MIUI 12 update my phone charges in an hour from 0 to 100. Speeds are almost twice that of original charger. Turbo Mode is gimmick, I don't get it on screen but it still charges faster, and faster than 27W turbo mode.
Hi All,
I am not an expert and hence seeking suggestions.
I have Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter (with wireless which can also be used as wired) and wondering if I can use for the S22 Ultra (Snapdragon version).
Thanks
If the power supports USB PD PPS it will charge at up to 45 W. If it only supports USB PD it will charge up to 15 W. And if it doesn't support USB PD at all, it will charge between 5 and 10 W.
It should be noted on the power adapter itself whether it supports PPS
My Huawei 65W USB-C PD charger used with the Honor Magicbook 14 charges at a report "Superfast" rate but that means anything above 20W. Of course there isn't a measured difference between a 25W and a 45W charger according to GSM Arena so YMMV.
Thanks all. As per this article it does
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
Xiaomi 120W Power Adapter Supports QC5 and USB PD + PPS Over USB-A Port
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Hopefully no damage to the phone.
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
chistery said:
Does "Super Fast Charging 2.0" mean it's charging at 45W?
What is it if it's just "Super Fast Charging"?
Only one of my many third party chargers seems to show 2.0
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Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
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Superfast 2.0 means anything above 25W I believe.
Super Fast Charging I think is between 15 and 25W.
Both of these would be potential speeds, as the phones won't charge at max rate from 0-100%. The rate starts slow at 0%, rises slowly to max, then starts dropping between 60 and 80%, falling to 0 charge rate as the battery reaches 100%
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Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
chistery said:
Thanks. All these different standards get very confusing!
I would have expected my "Anker Powerport III 65W PPS charger" to show 2.0, but it doesn't. The "MINIX 66W Turbo 3-Port GaN Wall Charger" does.
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I just learned this myself, - but check your cables. The S22U is rated for 20V input, so it checks with the cable to make sure the cable can supply the correct power. USB-C cables have chips in them to identify the cable and its capability. If you use the cable that came with the phone you might get different results. I did for sure.
The PowerPort II also doesn't output the right voltage for the S22 from what I can understand. So there is that.
So... Phone is supposed to charge at 45W but, from what I've read, this is not really true...
I do not have the original 45W Samsung charger but a 3rd party multiport 90W charger, with 2 PD usb C and one A port.
Till yesterday I was using a standard usb C to C cable and phone would display "fast charging" with an estimate of 1h from 15% to 100%. Not really a good performance I'd say. Today I bought a certified 100W cable with a display showing charging speed (usb C to C). With this cable two things change: phone displays "fast charging 2.0" and charging speed has slightly improved: less than 1h from 12% to 100%. Still not fast enough for a 45W charging... And as a metter of fact after 5 minutes the display on the cable stops at 28W...
This matches with lots of articles that complain for the same problem...
I also have a Xiaomi 12 Pro with dedicated 120W charger + dedicated usb C to A cable (charger has A). I'm saying dedicated, because with any other cable (standard usb C to A or even the above 100W usb C to C with adapter) the Xiaomi displays "turbo charging" while with original dedicated Xiaomi cable it displays "120W max" and is indeed blazing fast: 15 min for a full charge!!!
What is strange is that if I use the Xiaomi 120W charger with dedicated cable on the s22 ultra, phone displays only "fast charging" without the "2.0".
Now... I'm not trying to compare charging speed of s22 ultra to 12 Pro: Xiaomi can achieve such a speed because the phones have two separated batteries that charge simultaneously, thanks to a power splitter that takes the 120W input and splits it into two 60W, one for each battery.
What I'd like to know is what's going on with the s22 ultra. I understand that a basic cable is not enough to deliver 45W, reason why I bought a better cable, yet I was expecting a big improvement, while it improved charging speed of less than 10 minutes. And as a matter of fact I've never seen 45W on the cable display. Maybe I need an original Samsung 45W charger instead of a 3rd party one?
Search the forum, there is a few topics regarding 45w charging... I have a 65w charger and 5a cable and the charger has all the necessary properties/charging formats needed to fast charge 2.0 the samsung, but it doesn't. i don't even get the fast charge 2.0 notification....In the end the difference between the 25w and 45w is very slim....will be a waste of money to purchase the 45w samsung charger....check the other discussion.....my charger takes basically an hour from 10-100%...it's good enough for now
Well good enough if not compared to the blazing fast xiaomi's 120w charge
Most of the time, it's only several minutes charging time difference when I have a "Super fast charging" charger or a "Super fast charging 2.0" charger connected. 45W charging seems to be over hyped by Samsung and it's not using full power to charge all the time.
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
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buddy66 said:
I have the original new 45W charger and the phone charges from ~ 0% to 50% in approximately 20 minutes as advertised. It is faster by around 22% in comparison to the 25W fast charger between 0-50% state of charge. Afterwards they both charge in almost same way with the 45W charger being max 10 minutes faster by reaching 100%. You need a PD & PPS charger. There are only some 3rd party ones that manage to do same as checked by androidpolice:
Best 45W chargers for the Samsung Galaxy S22+ & S22 Ultra in 2023
Time for a refill for your Samsung S22+ or S22 Ultra. These 45W chargers can help
www.androidpolice.com
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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My charger is compatible with FC 2.0 but as I said it depends on the cable. Real problem is that 10 mins faster between 25W and 45W is a real joke. Given this phones is energy hungry then... With the Xiaomi 12 Pro I don't even care: 5 mins and I get 30% of charge, although you need proprietary charger and cable
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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It depends on what you want. For example I am perfectly happy with my 25W charger which comes rarely in use because of me charging wirelessly and without fast charging over the night but I bought the 45W one to have the possibility to get that extra speed between 0 and 50, and my girlfriend gets my old 25W one for her base S22. Samsung has a different approach to fast charging and for me 120W on Xiaomi or 150W on Oppo/OnePlus is something I do not need although I am curious why Samsung did not make the same move yet. Just split the cells in two or three, give each cell a maximum of 25W and boom, you're in the mix and nobody will complain.
On the other hand they lied to us about last gen 45W charger which was useless so it is fair to say that their battery & charging department is almost on the same bad level as the Exynos software team if not actually worse than them
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2 cells is exactly what Xiaomi does
Reg Samsung, that's my point: they indeed lie, it's not a 45W phone. Full stop.
I have two Super Fast Samsung 25 watt chargers. One for my S22U and One for my Tab S7+ and both can charge in under an hour. 45 watt chargeers just wasting your money, and extra wear on the battery for a tiny bit of improvement. Not worth it to me.