So, i have an LG K11 Plus (LM-X410BCW), released in 2018, the hardware of this phone is pretty good but, for some reason, while its CPU does supports 64-Bits, LGE installed an 32-Bits kernel on it (thank you for mistakes like that you always do, LGE.... ugh)
I searched for another root and custom kernel for this phone, and i could not find any. No rooting, no custom bootloader, and no custom kernel. Simply, nothing.
And for the most unfortunate, this phone is now completely abandoned by the manufacturer. Their official ROM and kernel are so bad, so glitched, so awful. The phone does not use the maximum power of its hardware, it keeps rebooting, it's stuck in Android 7.0 and even its camera app is glitched (my BACK flash doesn't work on the back camera, the app recognizes it as a "frontal" flash)
I know for rooting and installing custom kernel, i need another bootloader first
So i plan to make an unofficial bootloader for this model.
But i don't know where to begin, i know nothing about Android deep-modding and developing mobile custom kernels and bootloaders, i've no clues how to do that
I only know the basics of Android app developing, Android shell scripting and i'm more advanced in J2ME applications (completely useless for today's Android standards)
So, ¿where do i begin to do that?
My initial plans is making a unofficial TWRP bootloader for this model, but i don't know how i'll do that
I'd really help you if i knew how to, i also have this phone. I got it for a realtively high price and must say that it's absolutely unworthy of it's existance in our planet and modern society. The absolute maximum of modifications it allowed me to do was to remove bloatware packages using ADB, so i removed almost everything Google/Android related and now i'm working on a list of what you can/can't remove.
I removed the included launchers to only use Evie launcher, installed XDA's Navigation Gestures app (tho it made my phone lag a bit, as any overlay/draw-over-screen app will do), replaced Play Store by F-Droid, and etc... The phone is still bad, sub-entry level hardware even for it's time, has a Vulkan-capable GPU without Vulkan drivers included in the OS, and a 64-bit CPU running a 32-bit Kernel/OS, like you mentioned. But after that, the experience became a little bit smoother, at least!
I don't know nothing about this, but maybe you can get this phone's stock ROM in KDZ format, and start doing brute-force modifications to it, to flash it with LGUp, or LGFlashTool as if it was a stock ROM, but your modified version, because i don't think this phone checks the integrity of the ROM being flashed, or at least not in a way that can't be easily bypassed.
I have found its firmware on the internet, but i don't know how to modify it yet... But maybe i'll not delay much to learn it if i begin to. But i think i'll not be able to change its kernel nor the bootloader, as i want, from the firmware only, only the ROM... So it would be a bit useless as the LG's negligency was most on its software, with that lack of Vulkan and 64-bit support stuff
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Hi!
I'm new to this forums. I was led here by the people from another forums (LinusTechTips) since I was asking for help about rooting and modding my Samsung Galaxy S4.
Now, I really don't know anything about rooting or modding, but I just realized that my phone is starting to go slow, and there are some bloatwares I do not really use. I heard that if I root and mod my phone, all the bloatware can be erased and I will be able to have more space in my phone.
Can someone please link me or teach me how to root and mod my Samsung Galaxy S4? I've been reading around, but I am scared that the thread I am following is either out of date, or would not turn out well, so if you do have the time, please do help me!
Thanks!
Yours,
Veridisduo
Hey veris, i have a s4 GT-i9505 and i recently rooted it. First... did you get it by carrier? Just youtube this ( GT-i9505 (LTE, ATNT etc.) Root (Android version) sorry for bad english.
Yours, Jan
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Hi!
I'm new to this forums. I was led here by the people from another forums (LinusTechTips) since I was asking for help about rooting and modding my Samsung Galaxy S4.
Now, I really don't know anything about rooting or modding, but I just realized that my phone is starting to go slow, and there are some bloatwares I do not really use. I heard that if I root and mod my phone, all the bloatware can be erased and I will be able to have more space in my phone.
Can someone please link me or teach me how to root and mod my Samsung Galaxy S4? I've been reading around, but I am scared that the thread I am following is either out of date, or would not turn out well, so if you do have the time, please do help me!
Thanks!
Yours,
Veridisduo
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Easiest way to root your phone is with Chainfire Autoroot.
Deleting system bloatware won't really free up space. The System partition is a set size, so while deleting some apps will free up space in that partition, it won't give you extra space for, say, games or photos or music or other non-system stuff. Any extra space will be minimal anyway. It's also dangerous to do if you don't know what you're doing. Read, read, and read.
If you install custom recovery, such as TWRP (easy to do on this phone after rooting), you can however flash custom ROMs. This includes ROMs like CyanogenMod that are based on stock Android, and also customized Samsung TouchWiz ROMs that have been modified and typically de-bloated like you wish to do with your phone. Omega and Hyperdrive are probably the most popular modified TouchWiz ROMs for the S4. Custom recovery is an essential life-saver for learning about root and ROMs, because it allows you to make an exact backup, so when you screw something up (and you will, we all do, it's all part of the learning process) all you have to do is restore the backup.
There's plenty of youtube videos that'll walk you through the processes, but the best thing to do is read, read, and read. Educate yourself not just so you know what to do, but why you're doing it.
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Hey veris, i have a s4 GT-i9505 and i recently rooted it. First... did you get it by carrier? Just youtube this ( GT-i9505 (LTE, ATNT etc.) Root (Android version) sorry for bad english.
Yours, Jan
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Hi! How would I know what carrier I got it from?
I am from the Philippines and so, I didn't get it from ATNT or whatever carrier you mean. Sorry if I don't get it!
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Easiest way to root your phone is with Chainfire Autoroot.
Deleting system bloatware won't really free up space. The System partition is a set size, so while deleting some apps will free up space in that partition, it won't give you extra space for, say, games or photos or music or other non-system stuff. Any extra space will be minimal anyway. It's also dangerous to do if you don't know what you're doing. Read, read, and read.
If you install custom recovery, such as TWRP (easy to do on this phone after rooting), you can however flash custom ROMs. This includes ROMs like CyanogenMod that are based on stock Android, and also customized Samsung TouchWiz ROMs that have been modified and typically de-bloated like you wish to do with your phone. Omega and Hyperdrive are probably the most popular modified TouchWiz ROMs for the S4. Custom recovery is an essential life-saver for learning about root and ROMs, because it allows you to make an exact backup, so when you screw something up (and you will, we all do, it's all part of the learning process) all you have to do is restore the backup.
There's plenty of youtube videos that'll walk you through the processes, but the best thing to do is read, read, and read. Educate yourself not just so you know what to do, but why you're doing it.
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Hello!
First of all, I would like to thank you for your lengthy reply about my post. I really appreciate it a lot.
If I use the Chainfire Autoroot, it would do no harm with my files, am I right? (Well, I will of course back it up, but just to make sure!)
Next, what is custom recovery? Should I install this first before doing any mods?
I have heard about CyanogenMod (was thinking of modding my phone to it). What are TouchWiz ROMS though? Oh and other than CyanogenMod, are there any other mods that are nice to try out there? Would be nice to try something nice.
Sorry I ask too much question!
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Hello!
First of all, I would like to thank you for your lengthy reply about my post. I really appreciate it a lot.
If I use the Chainfire Autoroot, it would do no harm with my files, am I right? (Well, I will of course back it up, but just to make sure!)
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It's my understanding that as long as you're not using encryption, your data won't be wiped. But definitely back your stuff up first.
Next, what is custom recovery? Should I install this first before doing any mods?
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Recovery is sorta like the BIOS menu on a computer. The stock recovery on a Samsung gives you the options reboot, clear your data or cache, or do a factory reset. Custom recoveries allow you to flash things like ROMs, kernels, modem firmwares, as well as do full back-up and restores. The wiping options differentiate between storage and the ROM, so when flashing ROMs, you can choose not to wipe your data (music, pictures, etc). The most popular and easy to use custom recovery is Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). There's an app you can download from the Play Store that will install it for you (and update) once you're rooted. A custom recovery is an indispensable tool for modding your phone, and fixing it when you screw something up. Read up on TWRP and its capabilities before doing anything drastic with it.
I have heard about CyanogenMod (was thinking of modding my phone to it). What are TouchWiz ROMS though? Oh and other than CyanogenMod, are there any other mods that are nice to try out there? Would be nice to try something nice.
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CyanogenMod is by far the most popular custom ROM. It's very close to stock (ie: Nexus) Android, with some very useful features added without bogging the phone down with tones of useless crap. Many other custom ROMs borrow from CM, many built upon it and borrow from other custom ROMs. Personally, I think there's better ROMs out there than CyanogenMod, but that's a personal preference, and CM is a good place to start for anybody venturing into custom ROMs.
TouchWiz is what Samsung calls their UI. It'll be the stock ROM on the device. As I mentioned, Omega and Hyperdrive are examples of customized TouchWiz ROMs. They're tweaked for performance, some useless/unwanted features removed (like KNOX), often they port over features from newer or more powerful Samsung devices; it's possible to get features from the Note series and the S5 and S6 on your older S4 this way. They can also add other UI tweaks like expanded reboot menus, audio mods, visual tweaks, etc. The main advantage for using a customized TouchWiz ROM is that it'll be familiar, yet greatly improved.
Apart from that, custom kernels are fun to play with too. I use Koontz kernel on my S4. The kernel, simplistically put, is a bit of software that tells the operating system (ROM) how to use the hardware. This includes everything from the screen and buttons and speakers to the CPU, GPU, and RAM. A custom kernel can give you options like overclocking, undervolting (to save battery), adding touch-wake options, screen calibration, etc. Koontz is a very adjustable kernel. Messing with kernel options can be very risky though, so do your research before making any changes (and do a back-up!)
Sorry I ask too much question!
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No problem! We're all here to learn and help others learn.
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It's my understanding that as long as you're not using encryption, your data won't be wiped. But definitely back your stuff up first.
Recovery is sorta like the BIOS menu on a computer. The stock recovery on a Samsung gives you the options reboot, clear your data or cache, or do a factory reset. Custom recoveries allow you to flash things like ROMs, kernels, modem firmwares, as well as do full back-up and restores. The wiping options differentiate between storage and the ROM, so when flashing ROMs, you can choose not to wipe your data (music, pictures, etc). The most popular and easy to use custom recovery is Team Win Recovery Project (TWRP). There's an app you can download from the Play Store that will install it for you (and update) once you're rooted. A custom recovery is an indispensable tool for modding your phone, and fixing it when you screw something up. Read up on TWRP and its capabilities before doing anything drastic with it.
CyanogenMod is by far the most popular custom ROM. It's very close to stock (ie: Nexus) Android, with some very useful features added without bogging the phone down with tones of useless crap. Many other custom ROMs borrow from CM, many built upon it and borrow from other custom ROMs. Personally, I think there's better ROMs out there than CyanogenMod, but that's a personal preference, and CM is a good place to start for anybody venturing into custom ROMs.
TouchWiz is what Samsung calls their UI. It'll be the stock ROM on the device. As I mentioned, Omega and Hyperdrive are examples of customized TouchWiz ROMs. They're tweaked for performance, some useless/unwanted features removed (like KNOX), often they port over features from newer or more powerful Samsung devices; it's possible to get features from the Note series and the S5 and S6 on your older S4 this way. They can also add other UI tweaks like expanded reboot menus, audio mods, visual tweaks, etc. The main advantage for using a customized TouchWiz ROM is that it'll be familiar, yet greatly improved.
Apart from that, custom kernels are fun to play with too. I use Koontz kernel on my S4. The kernel, simplistically put, is a bit of software that tells the operating system (ROM) how to use the hardware. This includes everything from the screen and buttons and speakers to the CPU, GPU, and RAM. A custom kernel can give you options like overclocking, undervolting (to save battery), adding touch-wake options, screen calibration, etc. Koontz is a very adjustable kernel. Messing with kernel options can be very risky though, so do your research before making any changes (and do a back-up!)
No problem! We're all here to learn and help others learn.
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Awesome! Thanks a lot again!
It seems you have lots of knowledge on the S4, and since you have the same phone as I do, would it be okay if I just message you up instead of posting all my questions here?
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Awesome! Thanks a lot again!
It seems you have lots of knowledge on the S4, and since you have the same phone as I do, would it be okay if I just message you up instead of posting all my questions here?
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Honestly, I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the S4; what I know is fairly basic and I'm relatively inexperienced with modifying this specific device. I got mine for $70, and after rooting and flashing TWRP, I tried a couple ROMs, found a custom kernel, and basically haven't really messed around with anything else for months. My S4 is not my primary device, that'd be my OnePlus One. Mainly I use the S4 as a mobile hotspot and to USB tether to my computer for home internet, since the battery is removable and I can use it for that purpose without ruining my OnePlus One (running a constant hotspot destroys batteries) .
Feel free to PM me, but it might be more prudent just to keep it public so anyone searching for the same answers can find them here, and if I can't answer them, someone else can. Right now though, it's bed time, then I'm off to work so don't think that I'm ignoring you if I don't answer in the next 20 hours or so.
By all means, read @Neffy27 's FAQ if you are starting out. even as a refresher for stuff you may have forgotten.
-But do think a bit about what you are doing:
-Do not modify your phone unless you are willing to toss it into the trash, as that could well be the result, no matter how well planned.
-Always have a spare on hand. I used my old Moto G3 when my MZP died suddenly. Worked just fine. You know, things really haven't changed all that much since Gingerbread...
-If you are going to be getting the latest OTA stuff by doing a full flash you might want to reflect on just how much, or little, you would gain. We all like to think that if we have the latest security patch we are somehow more safe, though I don't believe I have ever heard of a phone being affected by something just because it is not on the latest patch. I was running my old Moto z play on an aug '18 (if I remember correctly) patch with no problems up until a few weeks ago when it was done in by an expanding battery envelope which cracked the display. Consider, also, that many of the custom roms that are available are not updated at all - it takes a ton of work to try to get/keep a custom ROM current, AND working! Yet you never hear of viruses or the like.
- Be aware that if you modify ANYTHING on your phone, even as little as a new boot logo to cover up the unlocked bootloader message, you will prevent your phone from taking any further OTA updates. Some mods, like adding TWRP, may still allow it to try to download and install an OTA, but when it reboots to finish that install, it will fail since it needs to re-boot through stock recovery to complete. And it will continue offering you that update.
- There is a difference between the partition structure in our phones on 8.x, and those on 9. 9 is not full Treble, only a "partial" Treble, and really only the addition of a second set of partitions which OTA updates can use to update the system - instead of modifying the single partition set, it modifies the other (a or b) set and boots to that on update completion. If it fails it can always boot the other set. Theoretically! Makes it safer than the old way of doing OTA updates, but this may cause problems if you try to flash a 2 partition set phone with a single partition set ROM. I don't believe anyone has run any experiments on this, so YOU, when you flash things without thinking about the situation, may get an unusable phone. I do not know the answer here. If you read these forums which detail other's problems, you may trod a bit more hesitantly!
-The idea here is to have fun, and sometimes to experiment with new things. To a newbie, losing the use of a $200 phone can be a tough life lesson. Let's help them out by helping them to be cautious!
Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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Agreed. I've been running stock with January 2018 patch, TWRP installed and Magisk for root and successful safety net bypass.
I'm looking to see if running Lineage will help streamline any update processes. It looks like they have their own recovery too.
Maintaining root has become a pain in my ass the past few years.
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I would be careful about lineage as folks don't seem to be able to get back to stock from it.
I agree about maintaining root. I will likely just stay on stock with this one.
I have a regular OnePlus 7 PRO (GM1913)
My bootloader is unlocked and I am rooted with Magisk on Android 10, with Oxygen 10.3.4 Stock.
something got funky with switching between apps and keyboard gets stuck sometimes and camera crashes, could be Nova launcher, could be Swiftkey, idk really
but I guess its time for a refresh to see if that fixes the problem (which I believe it will).
My Questions are:
1: How would I go on about flashing a custom ROM / latest Stock (recommendations welcome) without wiping data and keeping everything intact?
2: do I need a PC for that or can I do it "Over the air"? (sorry not fluent in this stuff since a long time)
Thank you!
Well, I'm not an expert but I've done that for the same reason as yours; ended up with the stock OxygenOS. Actually it started with stock OTA updater, ended with a brick(then unbrick)...
I've tried several custom roms, but
stock camera app is irreplaceable (Custom OS got more options, but Android 10+ is difficult to tinker with)
Even the most popular custom OS's may crash with an upgrade (especially if you tinker with your system). So whatever is wrong with it now, may got worse, or better.. Or it may get worse later(or not, who knows).
OTA doesn't do downgrades and check the signature of the package, so if something goes wrong or if you want oos back, you may need to use EDL with MSM Tools(Which, unfortunately requires a PC)
Thats why your safest bet is to:
Backup everything you can't afford to lose, then prepare an unbrick tool image if you can. You can backup without pc, but using edl or fastboot requires PC or other android device as a host device.
By the way, It's not that fun after a hundreds of reboot and flashes, so I use Linux now
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
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You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
zorak20 said:
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
weltall2 said:
Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.
bruh, I regret updating my samsung phone, Android 13 on the A53 is not good, the battery is wasteful and many applications don't use, which is a bad user experience. I've tried debloating and it's better but it's still good on Android 12 it turns out, yep I wanted to downgrade it was discussed before some said it didn't work. before I had a Samsung A10, I also had a custom ROM. many say you can't if the binaries are different, but after I try, I can flash it with other binaries. I want to try but with consideration of success. in download mode it says custom binary which I think can use any binary.