recovering root access - General Questions and Answers

G'day all.
Rooted my old Galaxy Tab 4; flashed a ROM that seems to be working just fine.
Somehow I managed to delete/disable/screw up Google Play Services to the point where I had to do a factory reset. I still appear to be using the new ROM, but SuperUser now says I don't have root access. When I run the rooting software (KingoRoot, Kingroot, and RootMaster) they say I'm rooted. But Root Check says not.
Any thoughts as to how to recover access? I'd like to be able to get rid of some of the bloatware that still infests the machine.
regards

smithtor said:
G'day all.
Rooted my old Galaxy Tab 4; flashed a ROM that seems to be working just fine.
Somehow I managed to delete/disable/screw up Google Play Services to the point where I had to do a factory reset. I still appear to be using the new ROM, but SuperUser now says I don't have root access. When I run the rooting software (KingoRoot, Kingroot, and RootMaster) they say I'm rooted. But Root Check says not.
Any thoughts as to how to recover access? I'd like to be able to get rid of some of the bloatware that still infests the machine.
regards
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Try looking in https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/samsung-galaxy-tab-4.3223/

sd_shadow said:
Try looking in https://forum.xda-developers.com/c/samsung-galaxy-tab-4.3223/
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I'll have a look there but I think the issue is not necessarily related to the machine but to something with the software permissions. Somehow, Superuser is ignoring the rooting software, whiich did not happent he first time I did it and I think that's because something happened during the reset.

smithtor said:
I'll have a look there but I think the issue is not necessarily related to the machine but to something with the software permissions. Somehow, Superuser is ignoring the rooting software, whiich did not happent he first time I did it and I think that's because something happened during the reset.
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Samsung devices are not like other Android devices, very heavily modified android.
Very few devices can be rooted by KingoRoot, Kingroot, or RootMaster anymore.

As long as the SU-binary is present in /system/bin the device is rooted. Check for this.

jwoegerbauer said:
As long as the SU-binary is present in /system/bin the device is rooted. Check for this.
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Thanks. Presumably that's under Device Storage, yes? I don't appear to have a system folder there. A search doesn't turn up the file itself.

smithtor said:
Thanks. Presumably that's under Device Storage, yes? I don't appear to have a system folder there. A search doesn't turn up the file itself.
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And I do not appear to have access t the root files, so can't see if anything is in /system/bin. Indeed I can't see the folder itself. mite turn up on adb, I suppose. I'll try that when a get a few minutes.

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Baffled, newb

so i recently used superoneclick to root my phone. The program said my phone is rooted yet when my kernels etc are the same as stock. I have superuser on my phone but how do i change the kernels etc so that i can use non market apps like wireless tether?
Kernels can be changed with new ROMS. Rooting means you get superuser permission on the terminals so things can be changed.
i dont understand what you asking about non market apps? But you can use apps that required root.
Hope i helped.
mithusingh32 said:
Kernels can be changed with new ROMS. Rooting means you get superuser permission on the terminals so things can be changed.
i dont understand what you asking about non market apps? But you can use apps that required root.
Hope i helped.
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thanks, sorry let me clarify.
I downloaded wireless tether and titanium backup to remove sprint ID. The issue is when i try to run either, they dont work. Wireless says the kernel is the issue. What else should I do to be able to use these apps?
samsung transform m920 with eclair
atros1 said:
thanks, sorry let me clarify.
I downloaded wireless tether and titanium backup to remove sprint ID. The issue is when i try to run either, they dont work. Wireless says the kernel is the issue. What else should I do to be able to use these apps?
samsung transform m920 with eclair
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Try barnacle(it's in the market) for wifi tether and you need to download and install busybox in order to use titanium backup, and be careful what you remove because you could brick your phone...
joenathane said:
Try barnacle(it's in the market) for wifi tether and you need to download and install busybox in order to use titanium backup, and be careful what you remove because you could brick your phone...
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Thank you for the barnacle thing, i havn't removed anything im having issues using anything that requires root access, just unrooted my phone.
Can anyone give me a step by step to rooting it? I simply want to remove sprint ID and have my phone run faster. Cant think of any apps i would really need.
Download z4root here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=446145&d=1290341328 transfer it to your sdcard and use a file manager to open it(if you don't have one download astro) install and run it, choose permanent root, and let it do it's thing...
did that, still isnt working, thank you though.
it appears anytime i try to run an app it says something along the lines of not having root access, even though it is rooted
Weird. Hmmmm. I meant i dont know much about your phone. I know that when my root got effed, i just did a factory reset and re-rooted and it worked.
Sorry couldnt help
have you tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkOp2Q2AM4 ?
mithusingh32 said:
Weird. Hmmmm. I meant i dont know much about your phone. I know that when my root got effed, i just did a factory reset and re-rooted and it worked.
Sorry couldnt help
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thanks for trying either way
joenathane said:
have you tried this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shkOp2Q2AM4 ?
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going to try this now, just didnt want to since it seems a bit more complicated and im really weak when it comes to linux
You could try installing Rom Manager from the market. If it works you will be able to flash a custom recovery, backup your device and flash a custom ROM.
Give it a go and let us know if it works.
cool so i followed the video, then it wasnt rooted, so i used z4root apparently it took two things to fully root my phone. Not sure why, some sort of sprint failsafe?
Although i forgot to set a backup to sprint features, so im a bit screwed down the road.
You prolly can find a sprint ROM somewhere. Or you could do a factory reset, not sure of that will bring back the sprint apps. Dont they have the sprint apps on the Android market?
atros1 said:
cool so i followed the video, then it wasnt rooted, so i used z4root apparently it took two things to fully root my phone. Not sure why, some sort of sprint failsafe?
Although i forgot to set a backup to sprint features, so im a bit screwed down the road.
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That would be my video. AND no, you are NOT rooted if you flashed that tar. All that tar does, is make your phone STOCK with custom recovery, to ensure a nice clean platform to work with. You would hold down volume down, voice button, and power. let go when you see samsung, and then apply an update.zip for the kernel. i do have a video on how to root the Android 2.2.2 and it's a proper root video. Sorry for the confusion.

[Q] rooted? kinda? i dont know?

I used to be rooted at one point (not unlocked, i do not want to unlock my tablet), but after updating to jellybean i am not, ive looked at some of the guides for this, but dont think my situation is quite like theirs. I downloaded voodoo ota rootkeeper before hand and backuped my su, but i could never make it restore. The only checkboxes i have checked under Voodoo OTA rootkeeper are 'superuser app installed', 'system supports root protection' and 'protected su copy available'. I click 'restore root' and it says 'root su restored' but this does not seem to actually do anything.
The other 2 checkboxes 'device rooted' and 'root permission granted' remain unchecked seemingly no matter what i do :/. Is there a tutorial i missed that applies to my problem that does not require unlocking? or is there just nothing i can do to restore it?
Aquifel said:
I used to be rooted at one point (not unlocked, i do not want to unlock my tablet), but after updating to jellybean i am not, ive looked at some of the guides for this, but dont think my situation is quite like theirs. I downloaded voodoo ota rootkeeper before hand and backuped my su, but i could never make it restore. The only checkboxes i have checked under Voodoo OTA rootkeeper are 'superuser app installed', 'system supports root protection' and 'protected su copy available'. I click 'restore root' and it says 'root su restored' but this does not seem to actually do anything.
The other 2 checkboxes 'device rooted' and 'root permission granted' remain unchecked seemingly no matter what i do :/. Is there a tutorial i missed that applies to my problem that does not require unlocking? or is there just nothing i can do to restore it?
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Im really interested to know how you root without "unlocking" your bootloader, cause when I wanted to root, i need to unlock my bootloader.
Tamaskan said:
Im really interested to know how you root without "unlocking" your bootloader, cause when I wanted to root, i need to unlock my bootloader.
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There are a lot of methods to do so pre-jellybean, none that i know of post-jellybean, but im by no means an expert.
Aquifel said:
There are a lot of methods to do so pre-jellybean, none that i know of post-jellybean, but im by no means an expert.
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The hard part is getting su on your device and you already have that if voodoo does its job. Run superuser or if you have supersu run that ( if you are asked to update then do so ). Rerun voodoo and try to restore root. Still no love install supersu from play store and then run it, try voodoo again, no love reboot and try voodoo again.
Much easier to do than type.:good:
tobdaryl said:
The hard part is getting su on your device and you already have that if voodoo does its job. Run superuser or if you have supersu run that ( if you are asked to update then do so ). Rerun voodoo and try to restore root. Still no love install supersu from play store and then run it, try voodoo again, no love reboot and try voodoo again.
Much easier to do than type.:good:
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I tried that several times unfortunately :/, but! i did find the solution, i found a guy in these forums with a screenshot of my exact problem ( if only we could search screenshots ) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893044 which directed me to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30522201&postcount=118 and that combination of commands allowed me to finally restore my root . So far im getting superuser prompts again and things seem to be functioning normally, so i think my problem is solved!
Aquifel said:
I tried that several times unfortunately :/, but! i did find the solution, i found a guy in these forums with a screenshot of my exact problem ( if only we could search screenshots ) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893044 which directed me to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30522201&postcount=118 and that combination of commands allowed me to finally restore my root . So far im getting superuser prompts again and things seem to be functioning normally, so i think my problem is solved!
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Good! I'm glad you have everything sorted.:good:

[Q] Lost root after 4.2.1 update

Hi,
So I did the usual thing I do before an OTA update, I opened Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, protected the root, and then un-rooted. After applying the update I went back to voodoo and restored the root and got all the checks so it appears to be fine. Now I no longer get superuser prompts, but the app is there. Root Checker says im rooted but typing su in the terminal emulator shows me the # prompt but it looks different (with some permission denied) . Can someone help me forward the root to 4.2.1 or explain what I'm dealing with? I looked all over for a similar thread but couldn't find anything. The method I described is what i used for the last 4-5 updates and it kept the root just fine.
Also, I'm rooted but not unlocked. I would prefer fixes that doesnt involve unlocking,
Thanks.
00shakey00 said:
Hi,
So I did the usual thing I do before an OTA update, I opened Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, protected the root, and then un-rooted. After applying the update I went back to voodoo and restored the root and got all the checks so it appears to be fine. Now I no longer get superuser prompts, but the app is there. Root Checker says im rooted but typing su in the terminal emulator shows me the # prompt but it looks different (with some permission denied) . Can someone help me forward the root to 4.2.1 or explain what I'm dealing with? I looked all over for a similar thread but couldn't find anything. The method I described is what i used for the last 4-5 updates and it kept the root just fine.
Also, I'm rooted but not unlocked. I would prefer fixes that doesnt involve unlocking,
Thanks.
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Try using motochopper to gain root.
maxal said:
Try using motochopper to gain root.
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I tried it and now I have both superuser and supersu. I still do not get prompts to allow/deny superuser acess and the apps that require root still do not work (like Volume+, Root Explorer, Browser2Ram...). Whem applying motochopper it seemed to apply successfully too.
This doesnt seem to be a common problem. Did I go about restoring the root wrong?
Thanks again.
00shakey00 said:
I tried it and now I have both superuser and supersu. I still do not get prompts to allow/deny superuser acess and the apps that require root still do not work (like Volume+, Root Explorer, Browser2Ram...). Whem applying motochopper it seemed to apply successfully too.
This doesnt seem to be a common problem. Did I go about restoring the root wrong?
Thanks again.
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The most effective way to use motochopper is to uninstall all root before you use it.
buhohitr said:
The most effective way to use motochopper is to uninstall all root before you use it.
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I cant access the system file since root explorer tells me I'm not currently rooted. I know that I need to remove su from system/xbin or similar. Is there another way to access/delete that file? I'm not willing to run a factory reset so thats not an option.
Thanks again for the help. You all are awesome.
00shakey00 said:
I cant access the system file since root explorer tells me I'm not currently rooted. I know that I need to remove su from system/xbin or similar. Is there another way to access/delete that file? I'm not willing to run a factory reset so thats not an option.
Thanks again for the help. You all are awesome.
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The smartest thing to do once you rooted is MAKE A TITANIUM BACKUP of all your apps and settings. Don't corner yourself! since you're not unlocked, there is very limited action which you can do when things go wrong.... like right now. Also why people rooted? so they can installed rooted apps AND BACKUP their setup. So I don't know how much root you still have with your device (sometime some apps may cached and you still able to use root with them), you may try to un install root using superuser app option or you can download a backup app from the market, make a backup of all your apps, then you may need to factory reset or even re flash the full Asus firmware. If you reflash, it's very simple to gain root back.
buhohitr said:
The smartest thing to do once you rooted is MAKE A TITANIUM BACKUP of all your apps and settings. Don't corner yourself! since you're not unlocked, there is very limited action which you can do when things go wrong.... like right now. Also why people rooted? so they can installed rooted apps AND BACKUP their setup. So I don't know how much root you still have with your device (sometime some apps may cached and you still able to use root with them), you may try to un install root using superuser app option or you can download a backup app from the market, make a backup of all your apps, then you may need to factory reset or even re flash the full Asus firmware. If you reflash, it's very simple to gain root back.
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Thanks for all your help buhohitr! I performed a wipe, updated to 4.2.1 then used motochopper and it was flawless. I followed with a titanium back up of everything once I was done.

[Q] Weaksauce2 Failing to Root

I'm brand new to android so excuse my lack of knowledge but I recently attempted to install Weaksauce2 and Supersu. I tried checking if it was installed properly with Root Checker but it says it was not. I don't understand because when I open Weaksauce2 and click "I Agree", I get a notification that says "Root Activated".
I'm sorry if this is a very simple issue but I don't want to destroy my new phone and couldn't find anything about this on the forums. Thank you in advance.
m.sa said:
I'm brand new to android so excuse my lack of knowledge but I recently attempted to install Weaksauce2 and Supersu. I tried checking if it was installed properly with Root Checker but it says it was not. I don't understand because when I open Weaksauce2 and click "I Agree", I get a notification that says "Root Activated".
I'm sorry if this is a very simple issue but I don't want to destroy my new phone and couldn't find anything about this on the forums. Thank you in advance.
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Are you still on 4.4.4 or did you accept the update?
jcsugrue said:
Are you still on 4.4.4 or did you accept the update?
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Still on 4.4.4. I installed Weaksauce2 after transferring it from my computer and then installed Superdu afterwards. I thought the root was successful but then I got Root Checker and it said it was not installed properly.
Is it safe to uninstall Weaksauce and try installing it again?
m.sa said:
Still on 4.4.4. I installed Weaksauce2 after transferring it from my computer and then installed Superdu afterwards. I thought the root was successful but then I got Root Checker and it said it was not installed properly.
Is it safe to uninstall Weaksauce and try installing it again?
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Yes. You're not going to hurt anything by reinstalling. It took me a couple tries. Just make sure that you don't attempt to update the su bin when you install supersu. The update will fail, but the installed version will work.
m.sa said:
Still on 4.4.4. I installed Weaksauce2 after transferring it from my computer and then installed Superdu afterwards. I thought the root was successful but then I got Root Checker and it said it was not installed properly.
Is it safe to uninstall Weaksauce and try installing it again?
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You should check if sunshine will work on your device by running it. If you are able to use it.. your root will be permanent.
jcsugrue said:
Yes. You're not going to hurt anything by reinstalling. It took me a couple tries. Just make sure that you don't attempt to update the su bin when you install supersu. The update will fail, but the installed version will work.
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I tried it a couple of more times and it worked, so I thank you for the information. I wasn't sure if there was some steps I needed to take before uninstalling it.
As for Sunshine, I'd like to ease into rooting and feel around a bit before I pull the trigger on purchasing it. I'm sure I'll find some ROMs I'd like to install, so I'll probably grab it soon.
You can't install ROMs without it right? I don't think you can get a recovery tool without being in S-off, although I'm not sure.
Also, as a follow up question, if I install a third party app, will anything bad happen if the device shuts off? I know Weaksauce is temporary so I'm not sure what would happen if the device shuts off while an app that requires root is installed.
Again, thank you for all the help.
Hmm, it seems the issue actually hasn't been solved. When I used Root Check, it said it was successfully rooted, but Root Checker said it was not. When I tried to run Titanium Backup, an error message appeared saying it could not acquire root privileges. Busybox also says it could not get permission from SuperSU, even though SuperSU asked me to grant permission for it and I said yes.
I'm really not sure what's going on.
m.sa said:
Hmm, it seems the issue actually hasn't been solved. When I used Root Check, it said it was successfully rooted, but Root Checker said it was not. When I tried to run Titanium Backup, an error message appeared saying it could not acquire root privileges. Busybox also says it could not get permission from SuperSU, even though SuperSU asked me to grant permission for it and I said yes.
I'm really not sure what's going on.
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You cannot install busybox because unless you are s-off your system partition is write protected.
dottat said:
You cannot install busybox because unless you are s-off your system partition is write protected.
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Okay. I can still use Titanium Backup though right? Regardless, I can't achieve root access so I can't use it anyway. I was looking for a guide on how to use WeakSauce but it really does seem as simple as installing it, running it, and then installing SuperSU. Again, this is my first day on Android so if there's something obvious that I could be missing, feel free to let me know. Sorry for all the trouble.
dottat said:
You cannot install busybox because unless you are s-off your system partition is write protected.
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I'm VZW M8 4.4.4, Sunshine fails but I am TempRooted with WS2. Pounding away since getting the phone I had ChainfireSU installed but it could not update binaries. I also installed BusyBox. I uninstalled both thinking they were screwing up SS. It appears I still have the SS SU Helper APK installed. RootChecker shows me rooted with SU in /system/xbin/su and BusyBox installed in /system/xbin/busybox. Either WS2 or SS 2.8.4 re-roots me at each boot. I think WS is included in SS and will give TempRoot too. I do have redo any changes I've made such as renaming the HTC update files as they get replaced by HTC. Things like TiBU and ES File Explorer root requiring options work. Things like Xposed don't.
Don't know how I got here as I tried all sorts of combos until it sunk in that SS 2.8.4 just was not going to work on my phone.

Is it possible to unroot a device?

Hello. If I root my android phone (htc one m9), will I be able to unroot it afterwards?
And are there any good programs that can root my phone model with a single click, without me doing it manually?
Squickly said:
Hello. If I root my android phone (htc one m9), will I be able to unroot it afterwards?
And are there any good programs that can root my phone model with a single click, without me doing it manually?
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Use KingRoot app to root your device. If you use KingRoot or SuperSU super user app then both apps have unroot option that can completely remove root from your android.
I installed KingRoot on PC , but all is in Chinese language?
And btw, can I screw up my phone with root, can something bad happen, like bricked phone during/after root? Is there a chance for that to happen? Or root is totally safe?
Squickly said:
I installed KingRoot on PC , but all is in Chinese language?
And btw, can I screw up my phone with root, can something bad happen, like bricked phone during/after root? Is there a chance for that to happen? Or root is totally safe?
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Can't say that rooting android is 100℅ safe. But I never bricked my androids by rooting them. After root if you delete any system file other than bloatwares then it chances to bricked android. Always get nandroid backup after rooting your android.
Have you ever rooted HTC ONE M9?
Squickly said:
Have you ever rooted HTC ONE M9?
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No. I never rooted any HTC device. If you want root your android then you want to ready for good and bad consequences.
Yeah I think I won't root it...
I wanted to root it because I deleted some photos from my Gallery and I found some programs to recover deleted photos from android, but they all require device to be rooted before scanning for deleted photos. But I'd rather not take that chance of messing up my phone because of a few photos.
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Yeah I think I won't root it...
I wanted to root it because I deleted some photos from my Gallery and I found some programs to recover deleted photos from android, but they all require device to be rooted before scanning for deleted photos. But I'd rather not take that chance of messing up my phone because of a few photos.
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Have you tried disk digger photo recovery. It works on both rooted and non rooted android. There is limitation on non rooted android. It may recover your photos.
Yeah I've tried that one, as well as many others from Play Store but most of them just find the photos that I already have in the phone, not the one deleted, or they just can't find it, I guess more deep scan is necessary, that's why it requires my device to be rooted.
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Yeah I've tried that one, as well as many others from Play Store but most of them just find the photos that I already have in the phone, not the one deleted, or they just can't find it, I guess more deep scan is necessary, that's why it requires my device to be rooted.
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You tried PC softwares to recover your data. They don't want rooted android.
Ashwinrg said:
You tried PC softwares to recover your data. They don't want rooted android.
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Can you recommend one?

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