Pocketable mobile internet terminal integrating
mobile phone, GPS and laptop computer into one * 4.8' touch screen;
* VGA output to 1920 * 1200 resolution;
* Keyboard: Double-thumb input greatly improves your speed to write a message or e-mail, which is more than 3 times faster than normal mobile phone input. After a period of use, your touch typing speed on xpPhone can reach up to 90% of that on a desktop computer;
* Input method: xpPhone supports 5-stroke input, Google Chinese Pinyin input method and etc. Standard Specification(Configuration) *CPU： AMD Super Mobile CPU
* Memory：512M/1G
* SSD: 8G/16G/32G/64G
* HDD：30G/60G/80G/120G
* LCD: 4.8' TFT Touch-screen LCD 800*480
* Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP
* Network：GSM/GPRS/EDGE/WCDMA (HSDPA/HSUPA)
CDMA/CDMA2000 1X/CDMA1X EVDO,TD-SCDMA，TD-HSDPA
* Wireless：WiFi 802.11b/g,WiMax(optional),Buletooth,Stand-alone GPS
* Camera Specifications:CMOS, 300k/1.3 Million
* Ports:1 x earphone jack,1 x microphone jack,Docking Connector
(include VGA output signal ),1 x USB 2.0, SIM Slot
* Power Management:
Battery: Removable Lithium-ion
Talk time: about 5 hours,Stand by time: about 5 days
Real life: about 7 hours(Standard), about 12 hours(Large)
Talk time，Standby time，Operation time may vary depending different usage.
* Weight: 400g (include battery)
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
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http://www.xpphone.com/en/product/functions.html
where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
htckaiseruser said:
where can i buy this? dont care about the price. I WANT THIS
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IDK havn't heard anything else about this!
Anyone know anything?
There are several news on this phone on Engadget.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/30/xpphone-teased-with-specs-and-pictures-makes-windows-xp-young-a/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/11/itg-xpphone-shown-off-in-green-and-yes-you-can-have-a-differen/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/17/itgs-windows-xp-loving-xpphone-now-accepting-pre-orders-worldwi/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/itg-xpphone-seen-powering-up-on-video/
but no news on price yet.
http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/12/23/xpphone-7-phone-shows-off-browsing-over-3g.aspx
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meh
been following that for a while. it sounds great but i'll believe it wheb i see it. it has been rumored to have lots of upgrade options including ssd drives and even win7
Something like this is the viliv s5, a few versions have a voice capable 3g modem, but there is no built in mic, so you would need bluetooth or something. My guess on this for the cpu would be an amd geode, but they may have stopped making those
Great device, but battery life doesn't look promising... I would still like to buy one if it wouldn't cost too much. But what on earth is AMD super mobile CPU ?! I need a thing to play GTA vice city, not less
Wow you really brought an almost year old thread back from the dead?
well. yes, but that device is going to be released only now, so this topic is not outdated. I have contacted their sales manager, and this what they say:
1."Graphical processor hardware: LX800. You can use graphical software as notebook PC."
2. "The AMD CPU is customized from AMD, it's quick, and you can try later." (it made everything really clear )
it's on sale right now. My question is how does one activate it on verizon? It lists CDMA for being supported.
http://en.xpphone.com/product/product.html
I want one. But would like to know what kind of touch screen is has. And a speed test as well.
could be awesome to have the OS on HD2
WAUW. IT does say that it can run WINDOWS 7 - AWESOME. Would love to hear if anyone have tried this Super Phoney
It looks nice!
Hope anybody can give a review
I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
ResurrectionTime
xpPhone 2 Windows 8
http://en.xpphone.com/news/kuaibao/114.html
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I searched on youtube and found some information about it,although they are good but not enough to understand how it is in action.
I'm waiting for a good review , too
please share your experiance of using this great phone if you got any
please tell me also is there any difference between embedded and normal version of windows?
I mean if I have a normal windows XP CD for my PC can I install it on this phone?
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I dared to order a xpphone so i can answer your questions now:
The embedded XP is a real windows, it gives the device-producer the possibility to leave functions out of the system that are not needed in this special case. So you can install a normal windows on this device. Sadly ITG does not provide any separate drivers, so with a normal XP you would not be able to use internal components of the device that need their own drivers.
Short summary: device and customer care are VERY disappointing if you try to use it as an all-day-phone. Please see also my comment here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1503531
Hello all! Especially developers
As you know, there's a nice application that is called "LeoCPUspeed" that is used to manage the cpu speed of HD2.
However, this is manual and cannot be manipulated automatically.
I'll explain:
As far as i know, there is an application for the HD that can manipulate the cpu speed automatically, e.g. for example cpu speed 20% when phone is idle, 50% speed when the phone is half idle (when backlight drops to half after some seconds) and 100% speed when the phone is awake! (and % supposing can be customized for personal use)
Why not to develop such an important application for the HD2! It will save a lot of battery and preserve the cpu for a longer period (I suppose so).
I don’t know if there is such an application but I guess it’s very useful and important.
I guess developers, can take for instance the “LeoCPUspeed” application for instance and modify it to do such a task without bugs or lacks (if they don’t want to develop such an application from scratch).
Just wanted to improve with good intentions ,
Regards,
Life Engineer said:
Hello all! Especially developers
As you know, there's a nice application that is called "LeoCPUspeed" that is used to manage the cpu speed of HD2.
However, this is manual and cannot be manipulated automatically.
I'll explain:
As far as i know, there is an application for the HD that can manipulate the cpu speed automatically, e.g. for example cpu speed 20% when phone is idle, 50% speed when the phone is half idle (when backlight drops to half after some seconds) and 100% speed when the phone is awake! (and % supposing can be customized for personal use)
Why not to develop such an important application for the HD2! It will save a lot of battery and preserve the cpu for a longer period (I suppose so).
I don’t know if there is such an application but I guess it’s very useful and important.
I guess developers, can take for instance the “LeoCPUspeed” application for instance and modify it to do such a task without bugs or lacks (if they don’t want to develop such an application from scratch).
Just wanted to improve with good intentions ,
Regards,
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The Leo CPU already automatically scales now. This app is just for fun and to make some manual changes.
FYI, the HTC guy had already created this and the app is already installed in your phone.
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FYI, the HTC guy had already created this and the app is already installed in your phone.
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lol i thought exactly the same while reading first couple of lines
really man, you have got this on your phone(unless your cook had fun with that)
it is actually more advanced, and also scales by load on processor-going up to 998mHz
I have a simple question about Android in which I have not found the simple answer to... (Although I think I know, I just want some clarification). I recently switched over to Windows Phone 7 because of various reasons, I will not name them here as that is an entirely different subject, however one of the reasons i switched was because of overall responsiveness of the OS. Why does Android's touch response feel sooo clunky? Yeah transitions and app launches are nice and quick, but I mean like pinch-to-zoom, and scrolling... I have played with the latest and greatest both rooted (with and without custom rom) and non rooted (with or without OEM UI), Motorola Xoom, Atrix 4G whatever is being claimed latest and greatest. But no matter what they all have the same touch response lag no matter what. This, believe it or not, is a major deal breaker for me, and before the majority of you speak, I'll speak for you; "why is something so simple and small, barely even considered a nuisance, be such a nuisance?" for me, i love fluidity, so, it just is. At this question however i do retort; if its such a "simple" or "small" nuisance, why can't it "simply" be coded to feel as fluid as Windows Phone 7, or iOS?
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I have a simple question about Android in which I have not found the simple answer to... (Although I think I know, I just want some clarification). I recently switched over to Windows Phone 7 because of various reasons, I will not name them here as that is an entirely different subject, however one of the reasons i switched was because of overall responsiveness of the OS. Why does Android's touch response feel sooo clunky? Yeah transitions and app launches are nice and quick, but I mean like pinch-to-zoom, and scrolling... I have played with the latest and greatest both rooted (with and without custom rom) and non rooted (with or without OEM UI), Motorola Xoom, Atrix 4G whatever is being claimed latest and greatest. But no matter what they all have the same touch response lag no matter what. This, believe it or not, is a major deal breaker for me, and before the majority of you speak, I'll speak for you; "why is something so simple and small, barely even considered a nuisance, be such a nuisance?" for me, i love fluidity, so, it just is. At this question however i do retort; if its such a "simple" or "small" nuisance, why can't it "simply" be coded to feel as fluid as Windows Phone 7, or iOS?
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I will try to answer since I've been using android before. android now as I believe is still in development stage. especially because it started from open source, where many developers get involved to participate in android development. unlike windows or the IOS platform. development is only done by the company itself through microsoft and apple. Except for third-party application development
android is a system (for run smoothly) with very powerful hardware. so that the source code would require a very complicated of encoding. Its a very difficult job to sync between the needs of software with hardware which is available. and vice versa. in an application such as pinching and scrolling there is more than one command which contains a lot of code. and should be remembered that this is a system. which are all related to each other for the overall operations to run smoothly based on the minimum demand of the hardware required. if there is one character in which is wrong of encoding or difference may cause the application not running properly.
for high-end android device such as Xoom, atrik 4G I'm sure the hardware is not an issue. I'm sure it was more caused by the complexity of encoding in one of the applications listed that is running inside in the whole operating system, making it not running smoothly. because so many commands which must be running at the same time is what make pinching and scrolling activity to be "clunky" like you said. you can differentiate by turning off the internet connection or turn off unnecessary applications running in the background. But I'm sure very soon android operating system will have a system which is more stable and efficient in encoding such as those held by the windows or apple.
My answer may be added by other members of the more expert in these matters. as a newbie, i am just trying to help based on the knowledge I had acquired over the years. CMIIW
Yeah I figured it would be something like that, I owned a Droid (1st gen.) and I had multiple setups from completely stock to my favorite, Cyanogenmod (always on the latest stable build, although I've already flashed CM7 RC2 and its probably the fastest its ever been at 800 MHz) everything was perfect except; scrolling and pinch-to-zoom. The scrolling is almost there, it actually lags for a bit but if I leave my finger on the page, it locks on to that position and stays there, but once I lift it to continue scrolling down or up it'll lag a bit again. The pinch zooming is just horrible no matter what. Unfortunately, given the nature of open source, and coding software in general, there is no such thing as "finished" software, so since this is open source, and the software is basically written to run on "nearly" whatever device you choose to flash it on, i don't think that problem will ever be solved. However, if Android does eventually reach that richness of responsiveness, then i will more than gladly switch back.
issues of a system running smoothly is different from one device to another device.
due to the wide variety of different android devices that causes the emergence of issues on the system stability. it was time to google as the main developer sets the standards for the development of next android os. while there is no standardization of hardware is set by google. it will be very difficult for other developers to write code/adjust performance in the operating system command. all this time writing code is must be adapted to the device from vendor itself. This will bring up the differences result of writing the code on other devices from another vendors (competitors). so if we running bencmark test or head to head test on both devices from different vendor the result will not be the same.
and if there will be a standarization set by google i believed it will not againts a spirit of an open source
I think the hardware that the WinCE (well...the shoe still fits) and Android phones are made on is essentially the same, in terms of the CPU power, the actual CPUs, the memory and the various other systems (graphics, etc.). Maybe not identical but overlapping classes and performance.
I haven't played with the new WinPhones but have noticed that every Android phone, no matter how fast and how "bare" factory, sometimes goes out to lunch. Apparently that's just the way the OS is written, it sometimes goes off to do other things internally (loading code? checking hardware states?) and you can't do anything except wait for it to come back.
But then again, almost every OS does that at times, including the main Windows OSes. That's just how they are done these days. If you had a cell phone fifteen year ago, you could turn it on and dial NOW. With any of the new cell phones? Can you do a cold power up and have a functioning phone in less than 30 seconds? Uh, no. But they call that progress, because you rarely have to power them off these days.
Every OS has tradeoffs, if the WinPhone makes you happier, by all means do it.
Rred said:
I think the hardware that the WinCE (well...the shoe still fits) and Android phones are made on is essentially the same, in terms of the CPU power, the actual CPUs, the memory and the various other systems (graphics, etc.). Maybe not identical but overlapping classes and performance.
I haven't played with the new WinPhones but have noticed that every Android phone, no matter how fast and how "bare" factory, sometimes goes out to lunch. Apparently that's just the way the OS is written, it sometimes goes off to do other things internally (loading code? checking hardware states?) and you can't do anything except wait for it to come back.
But then again, almost every OS does that at times, including the main Windows OSes. That's just how they are done these days. If you had a cell phone fifteen year ago, you could turn it on and dial NOW. With any of the new cell phones? Can you do a cold power up and have a functioning phone in less than 30 seconds? Uh, no. But they call that progress, because you rarely have to power them off these days.
Every OS has tradeoffs, if the WinPhone makes you happier, by all means do it.
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I agree with you, I do like both OS's for their own benefits, currently I do like WP7 better than Android and keeps me "happy". However if you notice; that's not my prime motive in starting this thread, I didn't come here to say one is better than the other. I just want to know why those two simple things (scrolling and pinch zooming) are not fluid on Android. You can't use the excuse that it's different hardware because Microsoft is playing that trick too. You can't use the "its busy doing other things" excuse either, while WP7 doesn't have multi-tasking, iOS does (somewhat) so it can go "do" something else but will still feel fluid. In a multi-OEM environment it is up to the OEM to optimize it for the device it runs on, which is why it baffles me that even Sense and MotoBlur and others make performance decline a bit and still has the lag. Shouldn't it be the opposite?
Nothing? So no one can tell me why Android's responsiveness (scrolling, pinch-zooming) sucks?
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Nothing? So no one can tell me why Android's responsiveness (scrolling, pinch-zooming) sucks?
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The answer is quite simple (and the above replies are miles off the mark). Hardware acceleration.
WP7 has it, Android doesn't.
FloatingFatMan said:
The answer is quite simple (and the above replies are miles off the mark). Hardware acceleration.
WP7 has it, Android doesn't.
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So the hardware acceleration runs throughout the entire OS? I thought it was mainly just the XNA and Silverlight stuff that was accelerated (I do believe those are different than native OS code, as Microsoft isnt allowing developers to write apps with native code. Future compatibility issues I guess)
Of course it's the entire OS. Why do you think MS's minimum spec stipulations are so high? This is what Windows Mobile was so plagued with, and how MS fixed that problem.
Luis-
"So the hardware acceleration runs throughout the entire OS?"
It isn't so much that the hardware acceleration runs in the OS, but that the hardware itself has certain routines built into it, on the firmware level, so the OS can just call those routines instead of trying to calculate them.
To oversimplify a bit, for instance, a hardware accelerator for "zoom in" might be programmed into the video chip system to automatically tell it "take the 50 pixels around this spot and blow up up to 250 pixels, refresh screen" where the OS would be saying "OK, let's take this spot, draw a square with a 50 pixel radius around it, now let's take each of those pixels and transpose it over twice the radius and go fill..." sending a long slow string of commands, each computed by the CPU.
When the CPU can offload all of that into a simple "zoom" command to the video chip, the CPU is now free to do other things. Like, respond to your next input, or push the next menu onto the display.
When you have ironclad control over the hardware--it can be a great way to make systems faster. And more stable.
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Luis-
"So the hardware acceleration runs throughout the entire OS?"
It isn't so much that the hardware acceleration runs in the OS, but that the hardware itself has certain routines built into it, on the firmware level, so the OS can just call those routines instead of trying to calculate them.
To oversimplify a bit, for instance, a hardware accelerator for "zoom in" might be programmed into the video chip system to automatically tell it "take the 50 pixels around this spot and blow up up to 250 pixels, refresh screen" where the OS would be saying "OK, let's take this spot, draw a square with a 50 pixel radius around it, now let's take each of those pixels and transpose it over twice the radius and go fill..." sending a long slow string of commands, each computed by the CPU.
When the CPU can offload all of that into a simple "zoom" command to the video chip, the CPU is now free to do other things. Like, respond to your next input, or push the next menu onto the display.
When you have ironclad control over the hardware--it can be a great way to make systems faster. And more stable.
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Great answer. Makes sense, thanks. Now given that this is an Android section lets talk more on that, will it ever be possible to have hardware acceleration on Android, Whether it be through custom ROMs or OEM devices?
"will it ever be possible to have hardware acceleration on Android,"
Possible? Sure, I've seen pigs on the wing.<G> Don't hold your breath for it though. Android is an unruly place where even ordinary hardware is often not supported by the OS and software breaks on every new phone. In order for hardware acceleration to work, the OS needs to have routines and drivers for standard hardware, which means locking down a hardware spec. Which is so very Undroid.
Can't see that happening, unless ten year from now someone invents a "standard universal Android cell phone chipset" and all the manufacturers get paid to exclusively use it. That's the ticket--use our chipset, we'll pay you to use it, and oh, yes, it will play one of "our" ads every time your screen turns on. Or you launch a new app. Or place a call.
(See? Things could get worse!<G>)
Here's an interesting discussion...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
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Here's an interesting discussion...
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
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Well as far as I read, it was just a bunch of "me too" and "I agree" lol I got bored reading that I still dont think Google has an official statement on the matter do they?
TL;DR: Could you check with AIDA64 if your phone support Wi-Fi Aware and report the result here?
Hello everyone, I am trying to create a list of the Android devices compatible with Wi-Fi Aware.To this date, the Pixel 3/3XL and the Galaxy Note 10/10+ are the only certified smartphones for Wi-Fi Aware. Oddly enough, none of them actually advertise that they support it on their storage page.I discovered that some other devices, like the Pixel 2 or Xiaomi Mi 8 and Pocophone are compatible with this technology but do not advertise their compatibility as well.
In a nutshell, I have no way to know which phones are compatible without getting my hand on them.
For this, I would like to request you to check if your phone is compatible with this technology. You must have Android 8 or more to have support for Wi-Fi Aware. If you match this requirement, you can know if your phone support Wi-Fi Aware by using the application AIDA64, which provide multiple specifications of your phone. The information can be find in the Network page, in Wi-Fi category. It requires to have the Wi-Fi switched on in order to test the API access.
Whether your phone support or not the technology, please report the result here, alongside with your phone model.You can report the result the way you want, screenshot, text. I will then add your phone capability to this list (That I cannot link yet because of this forum restriction...)
I am currently especially focused on smartphone having Snapdragon 845 or Snapdragon 855 processors
I have some questions regarding the temperature range on my new OPPO Find X2 Neo.
Been searching for info but nothing. Have no idea what a smartphone or tablet CPU or GPU should be for at:
1. idle
2. web browsing ( lite work)
3. heavy gaming ( PUBG, 60fps, HD graphics, 2400x1080p)
I know it depends on the chip itself as different SoC have different rattings but some general numbers are fine. I did try to use Device info HW app but no reading on this
If you want to share, please answer all 3 loads ( if you know)
thanks for your time,
silvagi
Processor Temperature Results for Tens of SoCs -- How Hot is Your Chip?
TestBird has shared with us interesting data of various SoC's heat performance. This was obtained after systematic steps, so hop on over to know more!
www.xda-developers.com
thanks alot for that, according to this article from 2015, idle is 30C and max is 60C.
Do you have more sources of information as the rest of the number are on a link thats no longer working.
NO. GIYF ...
It exist several apps that you can run on an Android device to show you CPU temperature :
How To Show CPU Temperature in Android Status bar
Well, as we all know, Android is always known for its massive app ecosystem. Just take a brief look at the Google Play Store, you will find apps for every
techviral.net
TBH ive tried for days but cant find anything. Anyone else wana share, is very simple info but somehow no info.strange...
i have those app but nothing tell me what the temp ranges are for my Soc ie cpu and gpu, i want know what the max temp is for my soc so i dont cook it
As a safety feature, phones and tablets are designed to shut down in extreme temperatures, AFAIK.