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It will be available in US next week for $400 (6/128)
Nice. Hopefully this device picks up in popularity now that it's being launched elsewhere. It's woefully ignored considering what it offers.
Just pulled the trigger on this from Amazon to run on Verizon. I'm expecting great things for as much as I loved my Nexus 6
i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
swes013 said:
i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
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Mine is also bought from Best Buy
Bootloader unlock request is same as other models.
Make sure those 5 lines from fastboot oem get_unlock_code is a complete one line (no missed character)
Giving myself buyers remorse and it hasn't even arrived yet! I currently have a Samsung Note8 (not rooted) and I'm comparing specs . . . no QC(QuickCharge) on the Motorola, lower dpi resolution, usb 2.0 vs 3.1 on the note? no mention of gorilla glass?
Those of you with the 5g ACE, what did you come from, and how is it comparing?
It does take 18 watts USB-PD
finnd1 said:
Giving myself buyers remorse and it hasn't even arrived yet! I currently have a Samsung Note8 (not rooted) and I'm comparing specs . . . no QC(QuickCharge) on the Motorola, lower dpi resolution, usb 2.0 vs 3.1 on the note? no mention of gorilla glass?
Those of you with the 5g ACE, what did you come from, and how is it comparing?
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Coming from a Xiaomi mi mix 2s. Phone has great specs in comparison to this one. I strictly also knew this is a budget device, and for the price I can't complain. With a smooth ui and root, it's a simple phone that does what I personally need it for. The camera in this phone blows away the mix.
The wireless charge was also a feature I thought I'd miss but I just don't, and the battery lasts forever in comparison. I used to fall for the pretty colors the displays on the big brands show off. Yes, they are nice, but after a year they look like any other screen out there anyways. This display is perfectly fine, does well in all lights and is quite large.
Also the feature sets the big name brands threw out there of course are cool, but when it comes down to it the less BS that is on the phone the better it works. Plus when I bought those devices I would be unlocking and flashing ROMs anyways to remove all that bloat.
This phone is not a gaming rig, it is a basic smartphone that has decent specs. Overall I cannot complain, my old phone has much, much better hardware and a newer OS, but this phone is perfect. Only root needed with the Android One ui experience. Don't get me wrong, if developers pick this thing up I'm game to ROM it, but it just doesn't need it. 5/10 if you're looking for a flagship, but 10/10 if you're looking for a budget device.
Its mid march and not a single AOSP ROM. I am so tempted seeing this phone going for a steal on swappa in great condition, but i need AOSP. i add F-Droid and use mostly FOSS Apps. Aurora store covers the play store apps i must absolutely have. But i need AOSP because i want no play services, no google nothing.
Hopefully Motorola will release source code for G 5G and Ace, and we need developers to make Lineage
mingkee said:
Hopefully Motorola will release source code for G 5G and Ace, and we need developers to make Lineage
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No, what we need is full R/W access after root. I have yet to be able to move anything around thanks to this new crap with Android 10. If the Devs are going to do anything hopefully its give us a Android Pie Rom.
swes013 said:
i have the Moto one ace 5g US unlocked version straight off the shelf from Best Buy and the bootloader unlock is not supported by the moto portal so i guess we are SOL for root or any other development yeah?
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I know thjis is a old post, but did you try using their format tool on the motodev portal for formatting the unlock_data string? I jumped to the same conclusion with my moto one action, however in the end it was user error on my part.
Ive had my Ace for about 12 hours, and have:
Unlocked the bootloader
Flashed HavokOS
Flashed Lineage 18.1
Flashed Android 11
Rooted\Magisked\Riru'ed\EdXsposed\GravityBox'ed
..and the phone has cooperated like a champ. I'm intentionally hard on phones, for hey thats how you learn! That and heh the wonderful folks of XDA ;-)
the.real.p3y0t3 said:
I know thjis is a old post, but did you try using their format tool on the motodev portal for formatting the unlock_data string? I jumped to the same conclusion with my moto one action, however in the end it was user error on my part.
Ive had my Ace for about 12 hours, and have:
Unlocked the bootloader
Flashed HavokOS
Flashed Lineage 18.1
Flashed Android 11
Rooted\Magisked\Riru'ed\EdXsposed\GravityBox'ed
..and the phone has cooperated like a champ. I'm intentionally hard on phones, for hey thats how you learn! That and heh the wonderful folks of XDA ;-)
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Hi.How did you do that for One Ace?
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I am planning to buy the s6, my country has the 920I model. My question is will there be enough rom support for this variant? As I see the 920F is the global variant, and it will get major support from rom developers. Will the 920F roms run on the 920I version too? I read somewhere that the Roms for the F version can be flashed on the I version by modifying the updater script. Most s5 and Note 4 users follow the updater script technique. How safe is it ? Will there be support from roms like (Liquidsmooth, Temasek, Crdroid, Beanstalk, Slim, DirtyUnicorns, Euphoria)? Any input is appreciated
You will find support limited at best. Most developers will not developer for Samsung devices unless they have the Qualcomm chip which we all know the S6 doesn't. So you may get some support but I know almost for sure that DU won't support it.
zelendel said:
You will find support limited at best. Most developers will not developer for Samsung devices unless they have the Qualcomm chip which we all know the S6 doesn't. So you may get some support but I know almost for sure that DU won't support it.
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Lol. I had a s3, exynos chip and DU supported it although I do not like DU. Well, the good thing is that there is no snapdragon variant, so ROM support will be universal. The question is the global version is 920F, and there will be a 920I version in my country. Will the F version roms be install friendly on the I version? I saw the note 4 forums and some people were able to flash roms by changing the updater script.
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Lol. I had a s3, exynos chip and DU supported it although I do not like DU. Well, the good thing is that there is no snapdragon variant, so ROM support will be universal. The question is the global version is 920F, and there will be a 920I version in my country. Will the F version roms be install friendly on the I version? I saw the note 4 forums and some people were able to flash roms by changing the updater script.
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That was when people trusted Samsung. Once They lied to people about offering the Documentation on the device so roms would work properly people walked away from them.
Will they be universal? No one can say for sure until they start getting the devices. The updater script works but you run a huge risk when doing something like that.
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That was when people trusted Samsung. Once They lied to people about offering the Documentation on the device so roms would work properly people walked away from them.
Will they be universal? No one can say for sure until they start getting the devices. The updater script works but you run a huge risk when doing something like that.
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well, Looks like I dont have many options then. I cannot have my Nexus 6 because of Uneven display, I can buy the one plus one but it is a year old. There are no good developer friendly phones out there
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well, [emoji14] Looks like I dont have many options then. I cannot have my Nexus 6 because of Uneven display, I can buy the one plus one but it is a year old. There are no good developer friendly phones out there
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So what if it is year old? The hardware is still good. Heck my 2 devices are 3 and 4 years old.
There are many great developers devices still out there. The newest device is not always the best device. But if your looking for a device that will most likely see lots of development then you could look at the m9.
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So what if it is year old? The hardware is still good. Heck my 2 devices are 3 and 4 years old.
There are many great developers devices still out there. The newest device is not always the best device. But if your looking for a device that will most likely see lots of development then you could look at the m9.
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Naah, not htc. You do have a point, even if it's a year old it is still a good device and reasonably priced almost half that of n6 with double storage capacity. I heard rumors of oneplus two coming this april. I dont know how true those are but looks like opo is the best option to go with right now, it has a lot of rom development going on.
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Naah, not htc. You do have a point, even if it's a year old it is still a good device and reasonably priced almost half that of n6 with double storage capacity. I heard rumors of oneplus two coming this april. I dont know how true those are but looks like opo is the best option to go with right now, it has a lot of rom development going on.
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I heard it is as well. I have been keeping an eye on them for a while and almost bought one but after they got some of the PA team to work on the rom I changed my mind.
My faithful nexus have served me well but it needs to be replaced soon
What phone is the spiritual successor of the nexus line with the following characteristics:
Many developers for the phone. (AOSP port within weeks without official support)
5-6 inch
<500$
Is it correct that most devs wants snapdragon?
I see OnePlus as a candidate, is there more not counting Pixel.
Nothing stands out to me as outstanding this year. I am considering a LG G5
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OnePlus 3 would be your best bet for sure.
I think the Xiaomi 5s is the best option.
I know you're probably dismissing the Pixel because of the price, but it really is a great phone. My sister just got one on Sunday since her S3 died a horrible death (eMMC card gave in for some unknown reason). The ad really wasn't lying with regard to having a great camera and charging extremely quickly (she got it at around 85% battery mid-Sunday and didn't have to charge it until 6 PM on Monday).
Yeah you're stuck in a sort of dead period between now and Mobile World Congress in Feb when the next wave of phone announcements come. As ppl have said, OnePlus3 (or rumoured OnePplus3T is your best bet in the flagship-specs-for-cheap segment. Mi5 or Mi5S would be the other option - maybe slightly prettier but bit more of a hassle to unlock and likely to have less good custom ROM support than the OnePlus.
Other than that wait til Feb/Mar for the next wave. In the meantime you could pick up a low end $150 device (take your pick of the Chinese vendors - I use a RedMi3) to tide you over and then use it as a backup phone?
Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
I had a look at mi5 page here at xda and saw that it hasen't got nougat yet so that's disqualifying.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
Even i have the same thoughts as yours and this is what I planned to do when im switching my Nexus 5.
- Look for a spiritual replacement: Right now I can only see One plus 3, which gives good hardware and dev support for under $500. Other phones are Axon 7 and Zen Phone Deluxe. They have good hardware but you need to research on the development part. Pixel is a good phone but not worth the price and im against such products.
- Look for a cheaper phone till I find a spiritual replacement: Xiaomi products are really good for $200. If you get bored in a year or so, can replace it with another cheaper phone till you find the replacement. Few Xiaomi phones have AOSP rom's which can be installed. I have not come across any other $200 phone with good hardware and little bit of dev support. One of the phones around $200 is Redmi Note 3. It has a Nougat AOSP ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/red...cyanogenmod-14-0-xiaomi-redmi-note-3-t3459382
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Thanks for the replies.
I am not in a hurry as my old nexus is working fine
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Oh. If you're not rushing wait til OnePlus4 (or whatever the successor is) launches in spring.
johnnydue said:
Thanks for the replies.
Maybe I should formulate the question as: What brand do you think that CM,AOKP etc. will develop mainly on?
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Pixel will be the leading brand open platforms develop on!
Otherwise OnePlus is probably a good bet. I heard from someone that many googlers use them now for all the reasons discussed above.
Otherwise your best bet for support is the device which has the largest installed base in the non-Chinese speaking world. Largest installed base = more users = (all things equal) more devs. Maybe you can get a Samsung device for cheap!!
As we know India got the Nougat. Brazil did too. EU finally gets it's share.
Nothing in US, except a soak announced by RepublicWireless. On the official Motorola / lenovo forums you can be banned if you talk about sideloading the Nougat on US devices. While Moto allows unlocking the bootloader by providing the unlock codes (in US they benefit from that by canceling the warranty), they frown upon what happens next. Like people will unlock the bootloader just for the pleasure of giving up the warranty, nothing more.
I was a Moto fan, me and my family owned a Moto DEFY XT (557D), MotoX (1st gen), Moto G (3rd gen), Moto E (2015) and now in use we have a Moto G4 Plus and a Moto X Pure.
Sadly, service (updates) for US is now last in line, bad interactions on their forums, no true international LTE bands support (band 20 is ommited from US phones, even if it is becoming one of the most important in EU for CA and rural).
I was planning to get the next Moto G5, but sadly I will have to move to a different company for my next phone.
What's sad is the fact that for each of us that have purchased their last Moto, there are probably 10 people that's never owned a Moto that will buy it. The US is pretty much the backwater for Lenovo and we probably are only a small fraction of their sales.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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At the price point that they try to sell the new Moto they needed loyal customers. The people that hunt bargains will not go for their inflated prices, not when they have likes of ZTE or Alcatel in the stores. Bad marketing strategy.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
However my beef is mainly that lenovo had put the US market on backburner.
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Custom firmwares are zero without updated blobs for camera, sensors, modem... That requires manufacturer support.
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All very true. But it seems that the updated drivers for various features are made available long before stock ROM upgrades, thus custom ROM's are also available. In five years of using Android smart phones and tablets, I have never had to wait long for decent custom ROMs based on the latest version as opposed to the long delays for stock upgrades by some manufacturers. Huawei and Asus come to mind.
Anyhow, I wasn't trying to negate anyone's position about the current situation. I merely was stating my own personal opinion and what works for me. My own 2-cents worth so to speak.
US soak seems to be older (-13) than what is out now (-14). Probably is somehow related to the RepublicWireless preloaded app.
I would like to try the US soak test. Has anyone have a URL for it? I heard their was issues but sounds like the same issues I read about Nougat. Any truth to that?
I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I usually get a new phone every two years. I have had my G4 for six months, so I won't make any statements about what I will or won't buy at this time since a lot can change in 18 months. But I will say that Lenova is far from being the only manufacturer to drag their feet on updates. And in reality, I really don't care that much about getting stock upgrades since I unlock and customize every device I have. The custom firmwares are usually much better choices IMHO. So when I am ready to get a new phone (or tablet), the custom ROM choices and development activity will influence me more than whether or not the manufacturer is updating in a timely manner. And introductory prices usually fall in time
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The main reason I've stuck with Moto so long is the custom firmware options. It's actually unprecedented for me to be still running a stock rom all this time.
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I'm using Nougat 14 and it's having battery drain problems, it's general (check Lenovo forums).
Maybe for that reason they didn't update the US version for now.
Anyway it's taking too much time for be an Android version similar to AOSP, other companies like Huawei have very modified versions and are updating more fast.
Maybe Nokia is going to be what Motorola was. I'm going to wait the Nokia 8 presentation for decide if I buy it or a Moto G5 Plus.
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I ran Nougat NPJ25.93-14 for a week and didn't see any battery drain whatsoever. In fact, the battery life was slightly better than any of the custom ROMs I have tried. I would have stuck with it except I missed the advanced boot menu and being able to customize the status bar. Not to mention it still has bloat that I really don't need.
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
Shady282 said:
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone! ?
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Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone!
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+1 Great phone! I am running stock longer than any rom in 10 years! Think about all the things you can do in your life without constantly tinkering with a phone :laugh:
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Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
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Rebrand between localizations means that you are able to buy Chinese model MHA-AL00 with Chinese ROM and rebrand to world ROM and vice versa.
Models are same by hardware.
About sim and updates - yeah, problem still exists. To get updates quickly after they released need phone with proper region/localization and proper sim.
So, I live in Russia and have Russian operator's sim. I bought European Mate 9 cause Huawei doesn't sell Mate's series in Russia (Russia is C10 in Huawei customization). My chances to get update on my MHA-L29C432 faster than European owners are very small. Fortunately, it is not problem to me.
P.s. I told that chances are small but they are not null. Huawei rolls on some ROMs to all after some time (about month)
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You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Oh but a lot of users reported that huawei does not have a good customer support in case of issues with the phone and such. is it true?
What about updates? do you expect getting oero and so on OS ? since there are not a lot of custom roms?
tho i didn't like the fact the regional update lock based on the sim card region you are using.
but i love the good SOT.
https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-drops-support-devices-inactive-maintainers/
TL;DR:
LineageOS drops official support due to inactive maintainers for Moto X Style/Pure alongside other Motorolas (such as Moto Z2 and G4) and other devices as well (most prominently Galaxy Note 3 and 8, HTC 10, Oneplus X, LG G3, Nexus 7 2013, several LG GPads and the recently released Xiaomi Redmi Note 5).
What do you think about this situation? Is support for our Moto X Style officialy dead?
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MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
Losing LineageOS for it is a great loss! I wish I had more time on my hands to help support this great device.
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TheACBH said:
I use LineageOS in combination with MicroG, so yes! it's a big loss. But I hope I can still use this phone for 2 more years at least. I've planned to get a new mobile contract in 3 months. This time without a smartphone. Next will be a Copperhead Pixel 2 or, if it's available in the future, a Copperhead Pixel 3.
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That's very interesting. I wonder how it is living with a phone with Copperhead OS and/or F-droid apps only.
Some people say that avoiding Google services and using F-droid instead in a standard ROM like Lineage gives you an extra hour of screen on time and improved idle power consumption, but information online is scarce about that particular subject. Most people use F-droid just to avoid Google for privacy reasons.
Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
Legendary phone stands on its own
Thankfully, the stock Rom on this phone is good enough that there's really no need for these. Still, it's better to have more choices than to have fewer choices, so it will be a bit of a hypothetical bummer to one of the greatest smartphones ever.
Long live the Pure Edition!
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Considering the phone release date was over 3 years ago, I'm not too surprised that ROM development is tapering off at this point. Many users have switched to new devices. The fact that a reliable battery replacement has been so hard to find until recently helped drive more people away. I can't blame devs for moving on.
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Where can I find this reliable battery replacement? Thanks!
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Just go to the Post below for more info. Ifixit is involved with it so I would imagine it is legit. They can sell just the battery or the entire kit.
I personally got mine off ebay and got lucky. 7+ months and still going strong.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...al-oem-battery-replacement-kit-t3857897/page3
So where to download Lineage OS for Moto X Sytle now?
So sad because I wanted to install a custom rom in my moto x pure . Im new to rooting so is there any way to download the rom regardless not having support anymore?
devsk said:
MXPE is still a great phone 3.5 years on!!
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lmao, it never was... Very bad cpu with throttling issues, weak battery, no official batteries for replacement, poor official and unoficial support, poor build quality and no fingerprint scaner lol