SM-N9860 changing firmware from BRI to TGY - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

Hi
I raised this in another thread but realised the title might be misleading so I have deleted that post and ask it here.
I have at last just received my Note 20 Ultra SM-N9860. I see it is the Taiwanese BRI version.
I have tried to read as much as I can and it appears that it may be a good idea to switch to the TGY firmware as there may be some benefits over BRI.
If I understand correctly, I can do this via Odin using all the elements (using CSC rather than Home_CSC). I know this will do a factory reset but that is no problem as I have not set the phone up yet.
If I do that, I will not trip Knox and I will get TGY OTA updates in future.
Have I understood that all correctly? Have I missed anything?

Sorry but I also have another question. What is the difference between using Odin to change the complete firmware to TGY and using Samkey just to change the CSC? All the files between BRI and TGY appear to be identical, other than the CSC. Does it make a difference over whether I get the TGY OTA updates if I only change the CSC?
Is there a disadvantage to using Odin as otherwise why do people pay Samkey when they could just use Odin for free?

Changing BRI to TGY is safe. But you will not have any benefits. Instead of this, changing to CHC gives you voice recorder etc. This operation keeps knox intact as well (actually, knox is tripped only in case of bootloader unlocked to load non-Samsung signed images).
Samkey will not change CSC in your case (you'll loose your money), so the Odin is the only way.

andriy_ said:
Changing BRI to TGY is safe. But you will not have any benefits. Instead of this, changing to CHC gives you voice recorder etc. This operation keeps knox intact as well (actually, knox is tripped only in case of bootloader unlocked to load non-Samsung signed images).
Samkey will not change CSC in your case (you'll loose your money), so the Odin is the only way.
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How is the CSC selected in Odin if Frija downloads the exact same CSC files for both BRI and TGY inputs??

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OTA Nougat UK

I have an S7 on MM, when are Nougat OTA's are coming to the UK? I don't bother rooting any longer but I am tempted to sideload if Samsung are going to take forever.
Depend on what s7 you have?
Edge G935
I'm on a sim only plan with BT so I own my phone rather than rent, I have spoken to BT who tell me its a Samsung OTA and they have no control, and Samsung merely tell me to to contact my Carrier.
Might end up sideloading!
It's already out. What CSC are you using?
Is the device network locked.
Can you install "Phone Info" app from play store and check which CSC is currently set as your active CSC. The CSC is the one based on which the updates are set.
kamranali44 said:
It's already out. What CSC are you using?
Is the device network locked.
Can you install "Phone Info" app from play store and check which CSC is currently set as your active CSC. The CSC is the one based on which the updates are set.
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XEU
Unlocked
It's not been released yet from what i can see on SamMobile.
InfernalByte said:
XEU
Unlocked
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I have the same UK firmware but with BTU. The difference is given below (Copied from someone on xda). https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/btu-xeu-t3100911
"I think i worked out the difference between BTU and XEU.
BTU firmware are on phones that come directly from Samsung (unbranded)
XEU firmware are on Sim Free handsets that are generic (unbranded) but not from Samsung"
You can now decide whether to wait for XEU or flash BTU. If you do decide to flash, backup data first and confirm that the active csc is set to BTU for OTA to work.
mimo2008 said:
It's not been released yet from what i can see on SamMobile.
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Is this mine? Listed after the update half way down the page?
https://www.sammobile.com/2017/01/1...mware-for-the-galaxy-s7-now-available-online/
kamranali44 said:
I have the same UK firmware but with BTU. The difference is given below (Copied from someone on xda). https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/btu-xeu-t3100911
"I think i worked out the difference between BTU and XEU.
BTU firmware are on phones that come directly from Samsung (unbranded)
XEU firmware are on Sim Free handsets that are generic (unbranded) but not from Samsung"
You can now decide whether to wait for XEU or flash BTU. If you do decide to flash, backup data first and confirm that the active csc is set to BTU for OTA to work.
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I may wait a few weeks, unless its done with the flash Icannot set XEU to BTU, there is no option.
kamranali44 said:
I have the same UK firmware but with BTU. The difference is given below (Copied from someone on xda). https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/help/btu-xeu-t3100911
"I think i worked out the difference between BTU and XEU.
BTU firmware are on phones that come directly from Samsung (unbranded)
XEU firmware are on Sim Free handsets that are generic (unbranded) but not from Samsung"
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Is your phone direct from Samsung? Mine is Sim Free, unbranded not from Samsung.
Exu is Ireland band by the looks of it.
InfernalByte said:
Is your phone direct from Samsung? Mine is Sim Free, unbranded not from Samsung.
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I brought it from ebay but I did flash the BTU firmware myself. My phone orignally had multi csc which included BTU and had a german (DBT) csc set as active.
You cannot change the CSC by device but you can flash a firmware with completely different CSC and then flash the BTU one.
I flashed mine with O2U firmware which made it forget the multi csc and then flashed BTU which set the active csc as BTU. I originally flashed the first nougat update release by Samsung and then received the performance update using OTA.
This might make it simple "You are not getting the BTU OTA updates because you don't have BTU CSC but DBT. You flashed BTU Rom but it's a multi CSC Rom and it has inside your original DBT CSC. So your CSC didn't change to BTU...If you want to have BTU CSC so you can get OTA upfates from BTU you have first to flash a rom that it's CSC is not inside the multi CSC you have now, let's say for example a rom with EUR CSC. Then you CSC will change to EUR. After that you can reflash BTU Rom and your CSC will change to BTU...Then you can take the OTA updates from BTU normally..."
Check this thread - https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ta-updates-t3552316/post70923890#post70923890
Check post number 32, I added the screenshots over there as well.
There is http://updato.com/ as well if you want to download firmware faster (a lot faster than sammobile). I think they are official but have only checked one so far.
Backup the data first, flashing a different csc will factory reset the device.
That's what I kinda done I was on vodafone and preferred to be on btu so I flashed that instead but once I flashed it done wipe cache and data factory reset just to make sure all was ok on another note I kept wifi calling as well.

Manual Nougat Update for SM-G930F Germany

Hello.
Is it possible to use Nougat UK firmware G930FXXU1DPLT for my unlocked german phone. It currently has G930FXXU1BPLB. The phone CSC is DBT with CSC country of Germany/DE. Country of Origin: made in Vietnam.
I did search but can't confirm from what I've read so far.
Thank you.
Yes you can just did it some hours ago and it's working like a charm
Ok, I flashed nougat and all went well.
I used the lasted firmware from here: http://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=38264056ECF011E69215FA163EE8F90B
Country/Region: United Kingdom
PDAG930FXXU1DQB3
CSCG930FOXA1DQB1
PhoneG930FXXU1DQB1
However, my csc is still DBT instead of BTU. I checked "re-partition" per instructions here: https://www.sammobile.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30800
How do I get BTU to stick? I even tried going into recovery and wiping and factory resetting. It didn't work.
Why do you ant BTU?
The BTU is a Multi-CSC which also beside others include the DBT-CSC.
I think soon we will have the offical Nougat DBT then you might need to flash again with Odin, if you want to have OTA-Updates.
Also you do not have to enable "Re-Partition". Just flash with the normal CSC (not the HOME_CSC if you want to change your CSC) but keep in mind that with flashing the normal CSC all data on the internal ROM is lost.
maik005 said:
Why do you ant BTU?
The BTU is a Multi-CSC which also beside others include the DBT-CSC.
I think soon we will have the offical Nougat DBT then you might need to flash again with Odin, if you want to have OTA-Updates.
Also you do not have to enable "Re-Partition". Just flash with the normal CSC (not the HOME_CSC if you want to change your CSC) but keep in mind that with flashing the normal CSC all data on the internal ROM is lost.
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Thanks for the reply.
I wanted BTU because I've read on several posts that I won't receive OTA updates if CSC is crossed with BTU and DBT. I also wanted samsung apps to stop defaulting to Deutschland since I can't read it.
Thanks again.
2545 said:
Thanks for the reply.
I wanted BTU because I've read on several posts that I won't receive OTA updates if CSC is crossed with BTU and DBT. I also wanted samsung apps to stop defaulting to Deutschland since I can't read it.
Thanks again.
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I have a DBT S7 and I flashed the BTU version as well. Just select Home CSC and it will keep all your data saved. If you select CSC_ it will erase the phone. Also the apps are in German based on location. You will need a VPN to use some apps in English
Question:
Firmware for Germany has now been released. Should I now download the Germany firmware and replace my BTU (UK) firmware? Or since only the CSC file seem to be different, should I Odin just the CSC file?

Firmware change - double-check please?

Hi all,
I'm back to Samsung after a number of years away at HTC and LG! Last Samsung was an S2 and so I've used Odin, reflashed firmwares, rooted etc. before so know my way around this stuff in a general sense.
I got an S7 from CEX recently to replace my broken LG G3 but the firmware on it seems to be a slightly older / foreign one and I want to get onto a clean UK / EU firmware, so I can keep stem with OTAs that I see friends' S7's receiving. My current firmware is baseband G930FXXU1BPJE, build number G930FXXU1ZPK4.
I've looked on SAMMobile and can see two options for UK unbranded; XEU and BTU. So my first question is what one should I use and what the difference is?
Secondly, when I use Odin to flash whichever one is correct, will I need to repartition? Or will factory resetting after flash be enough to properly correct the CSC?
Finally, will this still show up as an 'untampered' phone, and receive OTA correctly?
Thanks for the help.
XEU has the most updated firmware atm with a February security patch, where BTU is still on January afaik, both unbranded UK firmwares
If you flash them using CSC (Not HOME_CSC) which will reset the phone and change CSC, then you will remain KNOX 0x0 and receive OTAs for whichever CSC you choose, XEU or BTU
No need to repartition
I did read something about needing to flash to another CSC supported by the current CSC on your phone atm (Multi CSC) before flashing to the one you want to change to, but not sure about that, I've only ever switched between BTU and XEU, and BTU is multi CSC containing XEU too
*Detection* said:
XEU has the most updated firmware atm with a February security patch, where BTU is still on January afaik, both unbranded UK firmwares
If you flash them using CSC (Not HOME_CSC) which will reset the phone and change CSC, then you will remain KNOX 0x0 and receive OTAs for whichever CSC you choose, XEU or BTU
No need to repartition
I did read something about needing to flash to another CSC supported by the current CSC on your phone atm (Multi CSC) before flashing to the one you want to change to, but not sure about that, I've only ever switched between BTU and XEU, and BTU is multi CSC containing XEU too
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Thanks, I'll stay alert to that possibility. I'll go with the XEU variant and hopefully be ok. Just need to backup my stuff first.
gyaku_zuki said:
Thanks, I'll stay alert to that possibility. I'll go with the XEU variant and hopefully be ok. Just need to backup my stuff first.
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Hello, did you have any luck changing your CSC without Re-Partitioning ?
Im in the same situation right now (DDE CSC, still on 6.0.1) and I am kinda scared after reading so many posts where people bricked their phones.

Samsung Pay / Android Pay no longer available for latest stock firmware (ARO)?

Hello fellas,
I have just flashed latest stock firmware, and couldn't help noticing there was no Samsung Pay or Android Pay app.
When attempting to access both items through Google Play Store, it says my device is not compatible with the version available. How come this is possible? I can't think that the S7 has been outed of Samsung Pay, there has to be something else.
Could it be a problem with the CSC? My region code is ARO (Argentina Unbranded), but after checking the app Phone Info, I have realized that the CSC Installed belongs to TTT (Trinidad y Tobago) and not my region. This always happen when flashing CSC, since it's a multi-CSC, it randomly selects a region. If anyone knows a way of flashing the proper CSC through ODIN, that would be awesome.
Thanks!
hemp_invader said:
Hello fellas,
I have just flashed latest stock firmware, and couldn't help noticing there was no Samsung Pay or Android Pay app.
When attempting to access both items through Google Play Store, it says my device is not compatible with the version available. How come this is possible? I can't think that the S7 has been outed of Samsung Pay, there has to be something else.
Could it be a problem with the CSC? My region code is ARO (Argentina Unbranded), but after checking the app Phone Info, I have realized that the CSC Installed belongs to TTT (Trinidad y Tobago) and not my region. This always happen when flashing CSC, since it's a multi-CSC, it randomly selects a region. If anyone knows a way of flashing the proper CSC through ODIN, that would be awesome.
Thanks!
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Hi
Download the firmware you want, extract BL , CP and AP , now download the firmware for you country /carrier , extract from it the CSC file
not home_csc , and flash the BL , CP, AP from the first firmware with the CSC from your country
BAckup this will factory reset your phone
MAX 404 said:
Hi
Download the firmware you want, extract BL , CP and AP , now download the firmware for you country /carrier , extract from it the CSC file
not home_csc , and flash the BL , CP, AP from the first firmware with the CSC from your country
BAckup this will factory reset your phone
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Thanks for replying.
The firmware I want is the one that comes with the ARO package, the problem is that such package also includes a multi-country CSC. Among those there is this ARO region I'm needing. My device is Unbranded, I won't install a CSC from a carrier.
Also, I don't have root and I'm not planning to have it either.
hemp_invader said:
Thanks for replying.
The firmware I want is the one that comes with the ARO package, the problem is that such package also includes a multi-country CSC. Among those there is this ARO region I'm needing. My device is Unbranded, I won't install a CSC from a carrier.
Also, I don't have root and I'm not planning to have it either.
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Hi
Sorry I read your first post again
Samsung Pay will not work again after you root your phone , if knox is set 0x1 there is no chance to make it work
Android pay is possible if knox is set but firmware is official ( no root) and if the flashed firmware (CSC) has that option
Is ARO part of the multi CSC you flashed with TTT?
You need a CSC that has Android pay , do you remember what CSC you had when it worked?
MAX 404 said:
Hi
Sorry I read your first post again
Samsung Pay will not work again after you root your phone , if knox is set 0x1 there is no chance to make it work
Android pay is possible if knox is set but firmware is official ( no root) and if the flashed firmware (CSC) has that option
Is ARO part of the multi CSC you flashed with TTT?
You need a CSC that has Android pay , do you remember what CSC you had when it worked?
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BTU. I will try that one. Thanks mate!
hemp_invader said:
BTU. I will try that one. Thanks mate!
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BTU (UK) i think it works , if your carrier at home offers the service you can flash any unbranded firmware (BL, CP andAP) with the CSC from your carrier
That way you can have unbranded firmware plus you carrier CSC
Magisk fakes 0x0 doesn't it?
Beanvee7 said:
Magisk fakes 0x0 doesn't it?
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yes , magisk hides from android SU detection but samsung pay also looks for knox 0 x 1 ....if you are or were rooted SP will not work
Beanvee7 said:
Magisk fakes 0x0 doesn't it?
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Yes it does, but some additional kernel modifications are still required for Knox to work. So stock firmware isn't fooled. Most custom s7 kernels have them though.

Use combination firmware to change CSC?

I'm trying to flash to PCT to see if I get full US feature SPay with their rom.
However, PCT is part of Latin America multi-CSC rom and I'm now stuck with CDR which is the default.
I've read about how to change CSC. So far the only promising way out is to download Combination firmware and change CSC using *#243203855# in Factory IME to change CSC and then flash back to stock firmware. But there's not a lot discussion I can find... So will this operation work? Will it trip Knox? Can somebody with experience let me know...

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