Hi, considering buying this one, I am wondering what level of camera 2 api support Zoom edition?
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Hi there,
this isn't strictly a M5 S Plus question but I am debating buying one.
My needs are quite simple:
- the phone needs to be rootable
- xposed needs to run on it
- the best camera I can afford and when I talk about a good camera I am looking at Samsung S7/S8 for comparison.
So I looked at the new MI 6 and it has a dual 12mp camera with OIS but only 1.25 µm pixel size and apparently the dual cameras are not being used to combine a picture with qualcomm's clearsight rather its 2 cameras with different angles aka 27mm and 52mm you can use to zoom and other gimmicks, not really contributing to the picture quality.
I then looked at the MI 5 PRO and it seems to have an even smaller 1.12 µm pixel size but instead it has OIS.
Alternatives which popped up are the MI 5S which has a single camera but with 1.55µm pixel size which is one of the biggest on the market and obviously the MI 5S Plus which is the only one using qualcomm's clearsight with dual 13MP cameras but a very small 1.12 µm pixel size
On the cheaper end there is the Xiaomi Redmi Pro although I couldn't find anything about its pixel size.
So after hours of reading reviews and pixel peeping I thought I'd ask for some users feedback, maybe someone has used one or two of these cameras and can give some real feedback on their quality?
Based on this video, which photos did you find the best? I found those of P20 Pro more natural. And you?
https://youtu.be/6QCR56IR3_8
I think they are more or less the same. The differences are color temperature, saturation etc which honestly are easy fixes with the right photo editing software.
Just wait for p20 pro pie update... than we can talk about camera...
Both are very similar...
I hope P20 series can get the super macro feature from this mate 20...although i am not sure if it is a hardware or software question.
These videos are fake. No one has the phone for such comparisons yet.
Yea they're fake, don't bother looking on youtube for photo comparisons.
As both devices features the same main 40mpix sensor and only differ in software processing the output should be very similar, except for the Mate 20 Pro featuring a HDR RAW mode where it stacks multiple RAW shots into one for increased dynamic range and detail rendering. Except for that it should be about the same.
/ Magnus
lemach said:
Both are very similar...
I hope P20 series can get the super macro feature from this mate 20...although i am not sure if it is a hardware or software question.
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I have P20 pro on 108 beta and there is a super macro mode acrivated via AI
But I think it’s just a naming thing. The focus didn‘t change, still 10cm minimal distance with Pie Beta.
Me too, i mean i have the 108 pie beta but i have not noticed about that... When i want to take a very close picture it show a warning message to move away
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I have P20 pro on 108 beta and there is a super macro mode acrivated via AI
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The would be for mate also.
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Talking about the P20, NOT PRO.
On paper, the specs are very similar. If anything the P10 Plus has more camera features likeOIS.
I can upgrade my P10 Plus to a P20 for free but doesn't seem to be much of an upgrade?
The P10 Plus is plenty fast still. And I care about the MAIN camera more.
Please help me decide.
From Huawei.com:
P20
Main Camera
Dual-lens camera:
12 MP (RGB, f/1.8 aperture) + 20 MP (Monochrome, f/1.6 aperture)
supports autofocus (laser focus, deep focus, phase focus, contrast focus)
Note: The photo pixels may vary depending on the shooting mode.
This Note also worries me...the P10 Plus page doesn't have this Note.
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P10 Plus
Main Camera
20 MP Monochrome + 12 MP RGB, F1.8 (So I take it that both cameras are F1.8)
OIS (Optical Image Stabilization)
Dual-tone Flash
PDAF + CAF + Laser + Depth Auto Focus (same)
2x Hybrid Zoom
4K Video Recording
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So from this, it is the very same 12 MP RGB camera?
The difference is that the BW camera has a smaller aperture. 1.8->1.6.
And does not have:
OIS (Optical Image Stabilization)
Dual-tone Flash
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Whats more in Geekbench 4 the P10 Plus trounces the P20 in single and multicore performance. I have both phones right now (update) and in GB4, MY P10 Plus has higher scores. I know what it says on websites 960 vs 970 https://www.notebookcheck.net/Kirin-960-vs-Kirin-970_8366_9236.247596.0.html. Marginal improvement on paper of 1-10% but in the case of P20 and P10 Plus, the P10 Plus, maybe its higher clocked than default, is the winner by a lot.
So I'm confused, I gravitated towards Huawei because of the camera but they're pretty lazy in terms of CPU performance unlike Snapdragon increments are night and day. I don't care about CPU per say but it would be NICE if the 970 is a significant upgrade over the 960, which it's not.
https://consumer.huawei.com/ca/phones/p20/specs/
https://consumer.huawei.com/ca/phones/p10-plus/specs/
P20 has bigger sensor and it does have laser Focus as well, so it is upgrade
Can you reference this?
Also the P10 Plus has ALL the same focus mechanism the P20 has. Please see the Op.
i'm a heavy RAW photography shooter via the ultrawide lens , and from what i've researched im tempted to get a CC9 pro ~$370 USD and shoot computational RAWs with gcam with it. With this price range, there seems to be a huge explosion of "flagship killers" like the POCO F2 / X3, K30 Ultra, Realme X2/X7 etc. While all of these seem to have really competitive processors like the Dimensity 1000+ being almost equiv to SD865, none of them have as good cameras as the Mi note 10 especially the ultrawide.
It's VERY difficult to find any phone with a good sensor for the ultrawide, phone companies just dont seem to care. The only other one is Huawei Mate 30 pro but it doesnt support google pay and that's a deal breaker.
Is the CC9 Pro my best option...?
Thanks,
Hi, for this price range is for sure the best option. Other competitors better with ultrawide (bigger sensor/ better lens) would be probably closest as you mentioned Huawei Mate 30 Pro, P40 Pro, OP 8 Pro and newest samsung s20 series. Also Xiaomi M10 Ultra seems with same sensor, but updated lens design - providing less distortion and better details.
Do know, when you shoot RAW, gcam or stock cam does not provide distortion correction - so you have to do it afterwards in post-processing software. Love the output from gcam, can manage all preferences and detail, denoise etc. With adequate settings and provided very good light, it is really usable next to my DSLR in photoshoots (don't have wide angle lens). With little post production photos comes astonishing (especially from tripod and night sight astro setting). If you don't raise expectations too high - it won't disappoint!
Hi all,
I'm looking to buy a new smartphone.
The camera is a huge factor for me, especially the ability to save photos in a RAW format for further editing.
I thought about the OnePlus Nord 2, which I read supports RAW format only in its main rear camera.
Does the Xiaomi Redmi Note 11 Pro Plus supports RAW photos with *all* of its lenses?
Thanks!