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Anyone moved from Xperia Z Ultra to the X2? Looking for feedback

I am considering this mainly because of the 7" screen and bigger battery.
So if you moved from the XZU, please share your experience.
Also, it seems I really want the 703L for US not the 702L, correct?
Thanks!

I'd say go for it. I had a Sony Z Ultra GPE before and I am now using an X2 702L with 703L 5.1.1 firmware for it. The instructions to install 703L firmware on the 702L is a bit confusing, but if you read and write down your steps before hand, you should be good.

X2 is Awesome
I owned the XZU as well. I liked the big screen but I didn't care for how flexible the body could be. I hated the battery life. I simply Googled largest cell phone and found the X2. 5000 mAH battery is awesome. The only drawback is that it doesn't pick up LTE from AT&T. I got over that quick. 3G is good enough for me. Also difficult to find accessories except for Amazon and eBay. I bought the 703L. It's an awesome phone at a great price. Got mine for less than 400 brand new.

Chewy58204 said:
I owned the XZU as well. I liked the big screen but I didn't care for how flexible the body could be. I hated the battery life. I simply Googled largest cell phone and found the X2. 5000 mAH battery is awesome. The only drawback is that it doesn't pick up LTE from AT&T. I got over that quick. 3G is good enough for me. Also difficult to find accessories except for Amazon and eBay. I bought the 703L. It's an awesome phone at a great price. Got mine for less than 400 brand new.
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My Ultra has not LTE so I wont miss it. I am really getting pumped about get the X2 now. Battery life or replaceable battery was one of my main and likely only issue with the Ultra. I am not crazy about the colors on the screen either when watching some netflix show. Plus the 7" while keeping it small is very good for me. Just wish it had stereo speakers or at least that the speaker was in front but oh well.

Another thing was that I kept waiting and waiting for Sony to release a new Ultra. After seeing how their phones have just stagnated lately, I didn't have a problem with leaving them for Huawei. I wish I would have heard of Huawei sooner. I'm proud to tell people that my tablet is indeed a phone and it's made by the 3rd largest cell company in the world (that most have never heard of).

Chewy58204 said:
Another thing was that I kept waiting and waiting for Sony to release a new Ultra. After seeing how their phones have just stagnated lately, I didn't have a problem with leaving them for Huawei. I wish I would have heard of Huawei sooner. I'm proud to tell people that my tablet is indeed a phone and it's made by the 3rd largest cell company in the world (that most have never heard of).
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I was so pumped up about this until now that I just realized, it does not have NFC :/ Looks like the P8 Max does not have it either. I cant believe such new phones lacking that feature.
I use it very often to pair with my Sony A7ii camera as doing it manually is annoying. Also to send files to my wife.
I will have to think if I am willing to live without it.

shaolin95 said:
I am considering this mainly because of the 7" screen and bigger battery.
So if you moved from the XZU, please share your experience.
Also, it seems I really want the 703L for US not the 702L, correct?
Thanks!
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Yep, I had a Z Ultra and moved to the X2 this past July. The Z Ultra was the worst phone I've ever owned. The battery was undersized, the camera had no flash and the phone was way too big for it's screen size. It had a bigger chin than Jay Leno. The phone was put out of it's misery after I tried using the magnetic charger with it which completely fried the device. I returned it for a full refund (it was two weeks old) and got the X2 which is 100x better. Yeah, make it easier on yourself and get the 703L, it will be easier to update and ROM. I felt the same way about it not having NFC but when I bought it all doubt was laid to rest. The phone is awesome for the price you'll be paying.

ajsmsg78 said:
Yep, I had a Z Ultra and moved to the X2 this past July. The Z Ultra was the worst phone I've ever owned. The battery was undersized, the camera had no flash and the phone was way too big for it's screen size. It had a bigger chin than Jay Leno. The phone was put out of it's misery after I tried using the magnetic charger with it which completely fried the device. I returned it for a full refund (it was two weeks old) and got the X2 which is 100x better. Yeah, make it easier on yourself and get the 703L, it will be easier to update and ROM.
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mmm aside from the non repleceable battery, the Ultra has been my favorite phone of MANY so to each its own. I just want something new because I get bored after so long waiting for a good replacement...alas the Mediapad lacking NFC suddenly put a stop to my upgrade mood. Still trying to decide if I can deal with the non NFC.
Not like there are really any other options at 7" so its like Mediapad or keep what I have...1st world issues but issues nonetheless

Should i buy a similar Samsung S8

Hey everyone!
I am currently using Xiaomi mi4, but i found that it runs slower and slower, i asked some people on forums, they also have the same problem, so i am considering purchasing a new mobile phone that can accompany me for at least 2 years.
Last weekend, i went to Samsung Shop, the Samsung S8 attracts me in a sudden, yet when i close to see its price, oh god, it is near to sky, i know i have to give up the idea of buying it, then i walked out with sad
on the way of backing home, i search S8 pictures from google, i amazingly found another similar Samsung S8 mobile phone, the brand name seems like MEIIGOO S8, it doesn't matter, the important thing is its price is just near €180, how it could be so cheap. it is even with 4G RAM 64G ROM, MTK6750T, 1.5GHz, Octa Core6.1 Pollici Dual Camera , Android 7.1 system.
I already considered two days to buy it, i want to ask you guys is it worth of buying it?
Thanks guys!

myefox.it said:
Hey everyone!
I am currently using Xiaomi mi4, but i found that it runs slower and slower, i asked some people on forums, they also have the same problem, so i am considering purchasing a new mobile phone that can accompany me for at least 2 years.
Last weekend, i went to Samsung Shop, the Samsung S8 attracts me in a sudden, yet when i close to see its price, oh god, it is near to sky, i know i have to give up the idea of buying it, then i walked out with sad
on the way of backing home, i search S8 pictures from google, i amazingly found another similar Samsung S8 mobile phone, the brand name seems like MEIIGOO S8, it doesn't matter, the important thing is its price is just near €180, how it could be so cheap. it is even with 4G RAM 64G ROM, MTK6750T, 1.5GHz, Octa Core6.1 Pollici Dual Camera , Android 7.1 system.
I already considered two days to buy it, i want to ask you guys is it worth of buying it?
Thanks guys!
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Most people here wouldn't know of this phone, i ordered it and received it yesterday.
I am testing it out now, so far i can say the screen is beautiful and huge, yet because of the 18:9 and very thin bezels it is pretty small and is a pleasure to hold in the hand. i'll be testing more and if you are still interested let me know here and i'll post my findings.

krouri said:
Most people here wouldn't know of this phone, i ordered it and received it yesterday.
I am testing it out now, so far i can say the screen is beautiful and huge, yet because of the 18:9 and very thin bezels it is pretty small and is a pleasure to hold in the hand. i'll be testing more and if you are still interested let me know here and i'll post my findings.
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yes, thank you, welcome to share more of your experience

myefox.it said:
yes, thank you, welcome to share more of your experience
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So the phone is snappy screen is great, viewing angles are very good as well. More info. to come.

Ok so the phone is unfortunately not good at all! Apps randomly close, Bluetooth connection works with my car, and then i go out and back in and the phone keeps on saying connecting, yet it never does. The only way to make it work is restart the phone. WiFi says it's connected and it actually works...till it doesn't! I look and see for example that my Whatsapp messages haven't been sent, so i take off the WiFi and as soon as the phone gets the cellular data i get notifications galore. The phone's battery is very bad, 5-7 hours on time with 1.5-2 hrs. SOT. My banking app which can be unlocked with a Fingerprint scanner says my device isn't compatible with the feature. Speaking of the fingerprint scanner it is slow! And i'd say works approx. 60% of the time at best. I bought a blue one and the paint they use is a joke, as the phone's paint came off on the side and i only used this phone for 3 days!!! No falls or drops.
On the good side the 6.1" Sharp 2160*1080 screen is vibrant huge and gorgeous, the phone is pretty snappy for everyday use, the design is beautiful and it does have very narrow bezels all over, another nice touch is the rounded corners on top and bottom of screen. I am very saddened by the fact this phone turned out to be unuseful, as i had high hopes as their only previous model the M1 got some great reviews.

krouri said:
Ok so the phone is unfortunately not good at all! Apps randomly close, Bluetooth connection works with my car, and then i go out and back in and the phone keeps on saying connecting, yet it never does. The only way to make it work is restart the phone. WiFi says it's connected and it actually works...till it doesn't! I look and see for example that my Whatsapp messages haven't been sent, so i take off the WiFi and as soon as the phone gets the cellular data i get notifications galore. The phone's battery is very bad, 5-7 hours on time with 1.5-2 hrs. SOT. My banking app which can be unlocked with a Fingerprint scanner says my device isn't compatible with the feature. Speaking of the fingerprint scanner it is slow! And i'd say works approx. 60% of the time at best. I bought a blue one and the paint they use is a joke, as the phone's paint came off on the side and i only used this phone for 3 days!!! No falls or drops.
On the good side the 6.1" Sharp 2160*1080 screen is vibrant huge and gorgeous, the phone is pretty snappy for everyday use, the design is beautiful and it does have very narrow bezels all over, another nice touch is the rounded corners on top and bottom of screen. I am very saddened by the fact this phone turned out to be unuseful, as i had high hopes as their only previous model the M1 got some great reviews.
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That is the standard story for knock off devices. Remember that with cell phones like anything else, you get what you pay for. A good cellphone isn't cheap and a cheap cell phone isn't good.

zelendel said:
Remember that with cell phones like anything else, you get what you pay for. A good cellphone isn't cheap and a cheap cell phone isn't good.
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I will mostly agree with you, but i have a Xiaomi Redmi note 4, a Xiaomi mi A1 and had the Honor 6X and I can't fault any of them even though they were "cheap" in comparison.

Zenfone 6 vs Xiaomi Mi 9t pro?

At this rate It looks like the Mi 9t pro may actually start to become available for pre orders in the uk before we see any sign of a shipping date for the Zenfone 6 so I'm starting to see it as a contender.
The specs on the k20 pro / mi 9t pro look great and it's smaller and lighter than the zenfone, I know the battery is smaller but that's not much of an issue for me as I'm never far from a charger for long.
What I really want to know is if the miui software is really as bad as people say. I've seen loads of reports of bugs and integrated adverts. What are the chances of installing a debloated or pixel rom and still being able to use banking apps etc?
I'd love to hear from people who've used xioami phones and wether they've been able to overcome the awful firmware issues.

Where did you see confirmation of the K20 Pro for the UK? Is this selling officially here? If so I'm interested too, at present it only looks like it'll be the Chinese model through third parties which lacks band 20

@twistedvegan: The first comparison is here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBMG95sxptk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jYxFSaD5sU

never buy xiaomi product. i bought poco f1 and it has multitouch problem. cant play any games, cant type fast, screen touch delay. It's not with only me. we all requested xiaomi to change our product but they didn't do it. and instead of it the pushed and update and said touch problem is solved. how on earth a hardware problem is solved by software optimization.
they used cheap quality lcds and they saying me to change my screen guard. what a dumbass people. never buy xiaomi product. they suck big time. i will never pay this Chinese brands.

It amazes me to see sheeple flock to buy a miUI device....cheap crappy phone made with some (very few)above average specs (and the rest, cheapo short life hardware), and the worst after-sales service / customer support, and we haven't come to the ad-riddled, iPhone envy inspired Ui as yet....garbage phone is garbage phone.

I would say that if you're in USA I would skip on a Xiaomi phone. I bought the Mi Mix original and really loved that phone until one day it just wouldn't power on. Since it was not officially released in the US Xiaomi wouldn't entertain any kind of warranty. The same kind of situation happened when I got a Exynos variant of one of the Samsung S phones.
You don't know how important it is to have that warranty until something goes wrong

Should I buy this phone?

Hi Everyone
I'm looking to upgrade from a Oneplus 3. Previously it was a great price for good specs.
I noticed the magic 3 whilst looking at YouTube and the specs look amazing.
1 - Interested to know of those who have had it for a while would you recommend getting it?
2 - what are the main annoying factors about the phone?
3 - Are there any others in the price range I should consider? I mostly play pubg, do retoo gaming and watch films with my existing phone
Many thanks in advance
Jamie

1 - Difficult to answer....if you're not into rooting and customizing,but happy with a basic Android experience and raw power,you should buy it......otherwise,if you want 100% flagship bells and whistless for half the price,you'll have to search futher,as this phone does not 'has it all' for just €479.
2 - For me,the most annoying thing is that there's much more to squeeze out of the camera,if Nubia's app would match the capabilities......but hopefully, there will be a working Gcam release in the near future.
3 - Xiaomi Mi 9....but I fell for the RM3.....

Many thanks for the reply, I don't mind rooting if necessary.
Also happy with a basic android experience as my oneplus was pretty much that when it first came out.
Thanks for the suggestion I will look into that also ??

Jamie.bshop.1982 said:
Hi Everyone
I'm looking to upgrade from a Oneplus 3. Previously it was a great price for good specs.
I noticed the magic 3 whilst looking at YouTube and the specs look amazing.
1 - Interested to know of those who have had it for a while would you recommend getting it?
2 - what are the main annoying factors about the phone?
3 - Are there any others in the price range I should consider? I mostly play pubg, do retoo gaming and watch films with my existing phone
Many thanks in advance
Jamie
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I can tell the battery backup is awesome. Only problem I have is the gaming buttons are too annoying when playing a video.

I have it unrooted without gapps and IMO its better then some flagships. Reason is the big screen and the big battery and the stereo sound.
Also I prefer metal over Glas backside. And NO Notch.
The camera is better than that on my Xiaomi mi mix 3.

this phone is amazing, the only bad thing i see it had is not hdmi usb-c to support

I would wait for two main reasons:
1) Asus is going to announce their new ROG phone at the end of this month. While it will probably be a good deal more expensive, It might have some cool features
2) Nubia just announced they are going to release an 855 Plus version of this phone.
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Thing is,no matter how long you wait ,there will always be something better on the horizon after your purchase.......no matter which device you've bought...

Hi,
Considering the price and the specs, I think the Red Magic 3 is about the best phone you can have nowadays.
If you buy it, you should consider two things :
- Chinese UI has a lot of features but is ugly and themes are mostly paid ones ;
- Europe/US/Asia ROM has ZERO features.
Once I recovered from the disappointment, the second solution was clearly what I was looking for.
So here is my advice :
- take the Europe/US/Asia version and flash it to your device (if it doesn't ship with that as stock)
- unlock the bootloader
-root your phone.
All this is done in like 4/5 minutes...
Once done, install all apps to add the required features.
You will have a phone that has ONLY THE FEATURES YOU WANT.
No bloat, no unnecessary stuff...
A dream come true
Of course, it comes with a price : once rooted, you will get OTA notifications but won't be able to install them...
Regards.

roadworker said:
Thing is,no matter how long you wait ,there will always be something better on the horizon after your purchase.......no matter which device you've bought...
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True

If you live in North America, I'd steer clear of this company.
I ordered one of their phones last week. I still have yet to receive my shipping notice. I ordered it with priority shipping, and according to their website, it should have shipped within 24 hours of payment.
4 days after it failed to ship, I contacted support, and was told "Be patient". Ever since then, they've stopped responding to emails. They won't give me any sort of clue as to when my order will ship. Apparently this is a frequent occurrence with Red Magic.
They're one of those companies that are only interested in getting devices out to reviewers, everyone else is to fend for themselves.
The support page on their website doesn't work. Apparently they didn't pay for it. Nubia cannot give any answers either, they just argue back in forth in the support email with several of the employees arguing about who's job it is to deal with.
If you ever receive a phone from them, and have an issue, good luck with that. Their current company (if you can call it that) shows that can't deal with supporting their devices. They can't even deal with fulfilling orders.
Stay far far away from this company, for you own good.

Is there likely to significant difference between the 8gb and 12gb ram? I think I'm going to get it but wonder if it's worth the extra money. Also just seen they mentioned the magic 4 by the end of the year. So maybe prices will come down

Well I'm in N.A. and I bought it from the site day it released. Great phone, few bugs at the moment and its a gaming phone at heart with stock Android, easily customizable. Honestly any game task you throw at it handles like a boss. It's an emulation dream with built in buttons. My controller and case should arrive the 22nd and I'm sure it will be great. I can tell you any Bluetooth controller works well on it too. The choice to buy is up to you, basically do you want a gaming phone or something else.

I have had this for two days in the USA and I love it. Usually I have buyer's remorse and would be looking for a new phone by now so I can say it really is great. Battery life is better than my S9 with a Mophie pack so far. Even with playing with it constantly I can't kill it in one day and usually my S9 needs to be plugged in by late afternoon. I have not rooted it yet, and may not. I love a clean version of Android. Not sure why people think that is bad. All the random customization sometimes comes with a speed cost. This phone is just plain fast. Usually I root to get rid of crap so you can see where I stand. If you hate big heavy phones, don't buy it. That is the negative. I had a ZTE Axon 7 and updates were slow so that's another negative. Other than that, super fast, great screen, great battery, strong data signal...it's a buy. Reminds me of the original OnePlus, or the Axon. Phones that were surprising values, but were big and heavy.
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I'm coming from the OnePlus 3(T) as well, looking for a new device. What I didn't like at the Oneplus were the original ROM (luckily Lineage helped a lot) and the sound and position of the speaker. I loved the front facing stereo speakers of my HTC One (m7) years ago.
So I'm thinking of purchasing the RM3, but at the moment there are no alternative ROMS. Another device I'm looking at is the Black Shark 2, but situation with ROMs and support seems to be even worse.
For the RM3, I have concerns, if a fan inside a mobile will really last for some years, or break down at some time...

I also had the 3T and 1 and the 6T obviously this is just a better phone due to the increases in tech. No way to tell on the fan, I will say...and not sure how ZTE vs it's company Nubia will work, but my Axon 7 had a couple of screen issues due to my dropping it and the speaker stopped working, not sure if it was due to that and ZTE fixed it every time free of charge within the first year. I was very happy with their service on that phone. ROM support will be lacking but it's a clean version of Android so I prefer that
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To me...a clean, lean ROM, which the US version is, rooted with Magisk and other mods I choose myself is always the best option. Some custom ROMs can get pretty bloated themselves
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NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Considering the price and the specs, I think the Red Magic 3 is about the best phone you can have nowadays.
If you buy it, you should consider two things :
- Chinese UI has a lot of features but is ugly and themes are mostly paid ones ;
- Europe/US/Asia ROM has ZERO features.
Once I recovered from the disappointment, the second solution was clearly what I was looking for.
So here is my advice :
- take the Europe/US/Asia version and flash it to your device (if it doesn't ship with that as stock)
- unlock the bootloader
-root your phone.
All this is done in like 4/5 minutes...
Once done, install all apps to add the required features.
You will have a phone that has ONLY THE FEATURES YOU WANT.
No bloat, no unnecessary stuff...
A dream come true
Of course, it comes with a price : once rooted, you will get OTA notifications but won't be able to install them...
Regards.
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It depends on what you are looking for an what you want to do?
If you are a person who is happy with stock ROMs an just leaves cellphones in the state they are in out of the box then yes buy it.
However if you are a person who likes tinkering modifications an custom ROMs the please do not buy this cellphone.
I tried to install TWRP over 2 months ago an got stuck in a fastboot bootloop. Every xda suggestion to fix this plus paying a cellphone repair center an trying heaps of suggestions an it's still non functional.
It has horrible software an is rediculously sensitive to any and all attempts to FLASH ANYTHING.
If red magic 3s break you might never be able to fix them at a software level.
Mine lives in a bag by my bed to remind me not to bite off more than I can chew.
I have a xiaomi Mi9 now an have no real issues with it.
Good luck with your decision

So the options are to buy on Ali are with a stock Global Rom or a Chinese ROM. I see some other posts about people flashing to the Chinese one. Is that the best option to choose? I take it you can still select the language as English and support here etc? Thanks for everyone's responded it's been really helpful. I was thinking of holding out for the 855plus but not sure if I can afford which will be most likely an additional cost for it.

I also have the same question but mine is a bit different. Im convinced i am going to buy it but...
Should i buy it now or wait for the 855+ version? Idc if its gonna be a bit more expensive

xorphaz said:
I also have the same question but mine is a bit different. Im convinced i am going to buy it but...
Should i buy it now or wait for the 855+ version? Idc if its gonna be a bit more expensive
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I would of thought it would be more expensive as they still have the original to sell. Probably will stick another £100 on it or so I reckon ?

Question Anyone considering abandoning their X3 Pro?

And shifting to another fairly not flocked brand like Infinix? They are not touting their brand and models "As flagship killers" like OnePlus did, but their newer models are at least mid end spectrum of phone specs.
I'm checking out their Note 11 Pro... Anyone have this phone rn?

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And shifting to another fairly not flocked brand like Infinix? They are not touting their brand and models "As flagship killers" like OnePlus, but their newer models are at least mid end spectrum of phone specs.
I'm checking out their Note 11 Pro... Anyone have this phone rn?
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For my it's good phone at the moment x3 pro. I have no issue whit them at all. I'm on legion os, without any modification, just rooted.

irmas5 said:
For my it's good phone at the moment x3 pro. I have no issue whit them at all. I'm on legion os, without any modification, just rooted.
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For daily use, it works for me yeah... Somehow, as an everyday carry... But it is quite lacking compared to the last phone that I had(K20 Pro).
The FP is wonky at best, the plastic external button looks like it's about to fall off anytime it's being touched.
The audio is stupendously nerve-wracking if you don't know your way around the settings, good that I found the setting for volume control on individual apps. I find this the most annoying thing in the X3 Pro.

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For daily use, it works for me yeah... Somehow, as an everyday carry... But it is quite lacking compared to the last phone that I had(K20 Pro).
The FP is wonky at best, the plastic external button looks like it's about to fall off anytime it's being touched.
The audio is stupendously nerve-wracking if you don't know your way around the settings, good that I found the setting for volume control on individual apps. I find this the most annoying thing in the X3 Pro.
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Yeh. some times fp laging, needs touch few times. but overall it's not to bad for me. I'm not gamer or try push to over limits and say i bricked my phone.

I doubt you can find anything better for $200

Simple answer: You get what you pay for. And SD860 with ufs 3.1 storage at this price range is really a good steal.
If you really want a premium phone, you should start with $500+

The only criticisms I have are the relatively slow security patches and the awful MIUI. Everything else is totally acceptable given the very reasonable price.

irmas5 said:
Yeh. some times fp laging, needs touch few times. but overall it's not to bad for me. I'm not gamer or try push to over limits and say i bricked my phone.
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I haven't even played on my phone from 100% to 0% if that's what you meant by "Push to over limits". I have yet to unlock BL on my phone or do other soft mods, I lost my touch with custom roms after getting the K20 Pro. Not sure whether it's the lack of time and patience to deal with the whole process of installing a rom.
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I doubt you can find anything better for $200
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Infinix has the same pricing, not sure if they have the same or equivalent specs for their Note 11 Pro.
i_sagnik said:
Simple answer: You get what you pay for. And SD860 with ufs 3.1 storage at this price range is really a good steal.
If you really want a premium phone, you should start with $500+
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I mean it is pretty much what it is, but weird quirks of this phone is just everywhere. Pocket mode is spotty AF, one time while I was trying to fool myself on getting into running - the phone would randomly hold Forward/Next while on lockscreen or triple click or that other time while I was running and the phone made an in-app purchase worth US$80 Good thing Play store honors 24-hour refunds.
thorin0815 said:
The only criticisms I have are the relatively slow security patches and the awful MIUI. Everything else is totally acceptable given the very reasonable price.
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The entirety of the phone as a whole is good, the little problems is what makes it problematic for me. I could have just stuck with my K20 Pro if I knew this phone is no better than someone else's OnePlus 3.

k3lcior said:
I doubt you can find anything better for $200
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^^^^^ This ^^^^^