SNote and TWRP manual restore problem. - General Questions and Answers

This is my first time posting here and I am not sure how to best classify this question with tags, so please excuse me.
Here's the problem: I have backed up the data partition with TWRP and then wiped my Note 10.1 2014 before installing a fresh stock ROM. I did this because it went into a bootloop. When I tried to do a restore of the data partition through TWRP it sent the tablet back into a bootloop, so I had to redo the wipe and installation. I am only really trying to get one thing from the data partition, my S Note notes, so I thought I'd try to do this manually. I unzipped one of the TWRP backup archives (data.ext3.win001 or something like that) and found the folder com.samsung.android.snote in there with the .SPD files inside.
However, the .SPD files actually appear as folders on my Mac, not as zip archives as they should be. Something must've gotten mixed up in the TWRP backup. They contain all the appropriate files, and they are of the appropriate size, so I thought I'd zip them on my computer, change the file extension and put them on the SD card and back into the phone to be imported into S Note. However, S Note says "Invalid file format" when I tried to open them.
Does anyone have an idea about how S Note files work, and how they can be correctly zipped, give that I have all the correct contents? I know it's a long shot, but any assistance would be welcome! Cheers!

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[Q] backups and restore issues

So I spent my weekend playing with some roms, and somewhere in the process something got hosed.
CWM shows my backups.. starts restoring my backups.. then gives me an error about E:..
Trying to recall for sure.. I think it said sd-ext is an unrecognizable format, and wouldn't restore anything.
It would take a new Rom ZIP from the external SD card and install it just fine, just not the backups I had made. I can access the data just fine..
Any suggestions on exactly what the problem is and how to fix it?
Current CWM (5.0.2.0)
Rom Mngr 5.0.0.7
Running Weapon 3.0 ROM
Thanx!
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Hmm.. A difficult question to answer, perhaps?
Chaosmstr said:
So I spent my weekend playing with some roms, and somewhere in the process something got hosed.
CWM shows my backups.. starts restoring my backups.. then gives me an error about E:..
Trying to recall for sure.. I think it said sd-ext is an unrecognizable format, and wouldn't restore anything.
It would take a new Rom ZIP from the external SD card and install it just fine, just not the backups I had made. I can access the data just fine..
Any suggestions on exactly what the problem is and how to fix it?
Current CWM (5.0.2.0)
Rom Mngr 5.0.0.7
Running Weapon 3.0 ROM
Thanx!
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Check your SD card, you should have folder called "clockworkmod" inside find folder "backup". Inside this folder are all rom backups that you made. I think your backups got corrupted. Once you are in the folder try renaming your backups(change the name of the folder) like 2012-02-original or 2012-04-22.MIUI, 2012-04-29.CM7(just samples you can use your own labeling but try to keep same format.) Hope this helps, if not format SD card and start all over again. In the future make sure when you have everything set on your SD card to make a backup to your PC.
ratza66 said:
Check your SD card, you should have folder called "clockworkmod" inside find folder "backup". Inside this folder are all rom backups that you made. I think your backups got corrupted. Once you are in the folder try renaming your backups(change the name of the folder) like 2012-02-original or 2012-04-22.MIUI, 2012-04-29.CM7(just samples you can use your own labeling but try to keep same format.) Hope this helps, if not format SD card and start all over again. In the future make sure when you have everything set on your SD card to make a backup to your PC.
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that's pretty much all you can do, other then that report exactly what the error said, i assume that these were all on the same recovery, how much space is on your sdcard. Was there an error when the backup finished? What are the files on your Clockwork Mod Folder list the files with on one of your backups...
mine has these folders.
boot img
cache.ext3.tar
data.ext3.tar
nandroid.md5
recovery.img
system.ext4.tar
any of those in there? my backup is something like 520mb...
Chaosmstr said:
So I spent my weekend playing with some roms, and somewhere in the process something got hosed.
CWM shows my backups.. starts restoring my backups.. then gives me an error about E:..
Trying to recall for sure.. I think it said sd-ext is an unrecognizable format, and wouldn't restore anything.
It would take a new Rom ZIP from the external SD card and install it just fine, just not the backups I had made. I can access the data just fine..
Any suggestions on exactly what the problem is and how to fix it?
Current CWM (5.0.2.0)
Rom Mngr 5.0.0.7
Running Weapon 3.0 ROM
Thanx!
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Well happened to me before all i did was wipe all data, cache, and dalvik before i restored and it worked for me
hypemanisus said:
Well happened to me before all i did was wipe all data, cache, and dalvik before i restored and it worked for me
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Ahh, I just assumed that he would've done this prior to trying to restore, That is probably the issue. I've seen it before, I think on my MyTouch 3G.

[Q] no sd ext found, skipping back up of sd ext

When doing a backup in cwm, this is what it says right before completion. What does this mean?
Also, can you not rename ur backups. If you have more than one. How do you tell them apart?
Thank you
That's normal. If i remember correctly, its a partition inside your internal sd card for your external sd card and it's not mounted in CWM by default.
And you can rename it. Once you back up I'm CWM, boot your phone and go into your sd card. Inside clockworkmod/backups there's folders with date and time as the name, rename it to your hearts content
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sd-ext is an ext4 partition on the sdcard in addition to the normal fat32 partition. Just as an fyi, the defacto "standard" for alternative sdcard partitions also includes the ability to have a dedicated swap partition.
I have a proper sd-ext partition and get the same message, so it's likely that CWM isn't set up correctly. Nothing you can do about it unless you want to rebuild CWM
I also believe that partitioning the sdcard through CWM also doesn't work properly.
jparnell8839 said:
And you can rename it. Once you back up I'm CWM, boot your phone and go into your sd card. Inside clockworkmod/backups there's folders with date and time as the name, rename it to your hearts content
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Everytime i renamed backup. It would never let me restore, if needed too. Due to MD5 checksum error (or something like that)
i googled why it was happening and read changing backup name will cause the issue.
So next backup i made, i didnt rename it, annd restored as expected. kinda sucks would like to no which back up, is which.
trevor7428 said:
Everytime i renamed backup. It would never let me restore, if needed too. Due to MD5 checksum error (or something like that)
i googled why it was happening and read changing backup name will cause the issue.
So next backup i made, i didnt rename it, annd restored as expected. kinda sucks would like to no which back up, is which.
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that's weird :/ I always rename my backups and it's never gave me that error on all 3 android phones i've had (htc thunderbolt, wildfire s, and the blaze). something like "Current-10/3-preICSkies" and it never hurts. of course, I always copy my backups to windows to store on my hard drive before I rename
merwin said:
sd-ext is an ext4 partition on the sdcard in addition to the normal fat32 partition. Just as an fyi, the defacto "standard" for alternative sdcard partitions also includes the ability to have a dedicated swap partition.
I have a proper sd-ext partition and get the same message, so it's likely that CWM isn't set up correctly. Nothing you can do about it unless you want to rebuild CWM
I also believe that partitioning the sdcard through CWM also doesn't work properly.
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So it is all good if we get this message?
correct, phones of yester-year had low memory and storage. people devised ways to make apps2sd prior to froyo and thus an ext partition on the sdcard was born. i didnt include it as any device since the sgs1 has had plenty of space (the samsung galaxy prevail's /data partition was only 140MB's which included things like google maps updates etc)
you can use rom manager to rename backups, but cwm generates an md5 sum off the folder name, in this case a very specific date
trevor7428 said:
Everytime i renamed backup. It would never let me restore, if needed too. Due to MD5 checksum error (or something like that)
i googled why it was happening and read changing backup name will cause the issue.
So next backup i made, i didnt rename it, annd restored as expected. kinda sucks would like to no which back up, is which.
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Can't you just make a folder name what you would like then put the back up into the folder that has the name you wanted to be able to tell them apart?
I just thought of it, Hey I actually came up with an idea on my own at xda, wow, not bad, it's about time though after so many years and not too technical either, Hey but I don't know if that is a good thing for me or not.
Well anyways I am going to try my new techniques. LoL
Oh hey I forgot why I was here's until just now, not only did my backup say the op title, but also said something about not backing up applications either
1) is that normal too!?
2) I looked for the back up and shows up fine I the new folder. Although I can't say I ever remeber after clicking backup then clicking the backup file seeing 4 other files to chose from, like system, data, etc.
What is really going on now? I thought after clicking on the file it would go to the confirm option and that was it.

Restored nandroid, what's with the sdcard?

Hey guys,
a nandroid backup is a really convenient method to backup your complete phone and restore everything or partially data. All partitions (/system, /data, /cache) were being backed up.
But what happens with the sdcard?
Before I flash/install a new rom, I always format my sdcard with my PC, hence I make sure, that it’s clean and has no remains from older roms.
On first boot, the android system creates a lot of folders contaning data, which both are modified during the daily use. For example the folder “DCIM” contains all the taken pictures and videos.
But what’s about these?
- .android_secure
- .dta
- .estrong
- and especially “Android” and subfolders
What happens, if I make a full nandroid of my phone, format my sdcard, so that all the folders and data, which were created while using the rom, were deleted. After that I restore the complete backup and boot up the phone.
My question is, how the restored system will react, if it notices, that these folders and their contents were not available?
- will they be recreated?
- does the system not boot
- after booting it will show some error messages?
- something else?
Thanks in advance!
@@RON
Hi
Greeting
Nandroid only backups phone memory
It does not backup sdcard
And their is no need to format sd card everytime before flashing Rom (i haven't formated my sd card even once ) every thing works f9
Even if u remove all the file from sdcard which u mentaion then the phone recreate these file againg and causes no problem
Basically a Rom has to do nothing with the sdcard the phone runs completely even without sdcard . Sd card is just an expansion of memory to phones
And you do whatever with it , it does not affect the way your Rom runs
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@@RON said:
Hey guys,
a nandroid backup is a really convenient method to backup your complete phone and restore everything or partially data. All partitions (/system, /data, /cache) were being backed up.
But what happens with the sdcard?
Before I flash/install a new rom, I always format my sdcard with my PC, hence I make sure, that it’s clean and has no remains from older roms.
On first boot, the android system creates a lot of folders contaning data, which both are modified during the daily use. For example the folder “DCIM” contains all the taken pictures and videos.
But what’s about these?
- .android_secure
- .dta
- .estrong
- and especially “Android” and subfolders
What happens, if I make a full nandroid of my phone, format my sdcard, so that all the folders and data, which were created while using the rom, were deleted. After that I restore the complete backup and boot up the phone.
My question is, how the restored system will react, if it notices, that these folders and their contents were not available?
- will they be recreated?
- does the system not boot
- after booting it will show some error messages?
- something else?
Thanks in advance!
@@RON
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When making a nandroid backup, system, data, boot and cache partitions are saved. Also, the android_secure from the SDcard is saved. As for the other folders, they are not kept. EStrongs is the guys who make ES File Explorer, and I believe this folder has something to do with the app. I don't know about the other folders, but they are not required for running the ROM. If they are missing, they will be recreated.
I believe I answered some of your questions above, but I'll answer the rest here:
-As I said, the restore won't create the folders, but the ROM might create them. At least one of the folders you listed is of an app, and there are many more apps that create folders on your SDCard, that's just cache or some data, which is not a problem to restore.
-The system will boot. That's the idea of a nandroid backup (if those folders were required, they would have been backed up)
-It will not show error messages, it will resume just like when you made the backuo.
-Something Else? You name it. There is no need to format your SDCard every time you flash a ROM, as usually it doesn't create problems. It can get a bit messy, but besides that, it's fine to keep it the way it is.
astar26 said:
When making a nandroid backup, system, data, boot and cache partitions are saved. Also, the android_secure from the SDcard is saved. As for the other folders, they are not kept. EStrongs is the guys who make ES File Explorer, and I believe this folder has something to do with the app. I don't know about the other folders, but they are not required for running the ROM. If they are missing, they will be recreated.
I believe I answered some of your questions above, but I'll answer the rest here:
-As I said, the restore won't create the folders, but the ROM might create them. At least one of the folders you listed is of an app, and there are many more apps that create folders on your SDCard, that's just cache or some data, which is not a problem to restore.
-The system will boot. That's the idea of a nandroid backup (if those folders were required, they would have been backed up)
-It will not show error messages, it will resume just like when you made the backuo.
-Something Else? You name it. There is no need to format your SDCard every time you flash a ROM, as usually it doesn't create problems. It can get a bit messy, but besides that, it's fine to keep it the way it is.
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Yeah, you're right!
I clicked through the folders on my sdcard and the most directories are named "cache" etc. Only some exceptions for e.g. whatsapp message database or downloaded maps for htc locations ...etc.
So it seems, that the android system and the installed apps create folders for their use. If a nandroid will be created, the last mentioned folder should be backed up, too ... but manually. Thus the first mentioned folders (.data ...) are unnecessary.
You said, that there is no need to format the sdcard everytime a new rom will be flashed. I think it is, because every new rom deserves a clean sdcard, which has no remains from older roms. So the rom can expand themself and have a great feeling
No joke, in my opinion it will be the better way, if there are no possible complications with older existing files.
@@RON said:
Yeah, you're right!
I clicked through the folders on my sdcard and the most directories are named "cache" etc. Only some exceptions for e.g. whatsapp message database or downloaded maps for htc locations ...etc.
So it seems, that the android system and the installed apps create folders for their use. If a nandroid will be created, the last mentioned folder should be backed up, too ... but manually. Thus the first mentioned folders (.data ...) are unnecessary.
You said, that there is no need to format the sdcard everytime a new rom will be flashed. I think it is, because every new rom deserves a clean sdcard, which has no remains from older roms. So the rom can expand themself and have a great feeling
No joke, in my opinion it will be the better way, if there are no possible complications with older existing files.
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What needs to be cleaned is cleaned when you wipe the phone. Anyway, formatting the SDCard is your choice. Files of apps that are not installed just won't be used. I like your idea of starting fresh, but it's quite a hassle to format and rearrange the SD every time I flash a ROM.
It's nice to have it clean without many directories (Imust say that I managed to reach such a situation with my own documents, with directories I created myself and have no idea what they are for. But I guess that's what you get when you don't clean your "room" for a couple of years.

[Q] a few Noob questions regarding TWRP NANDroid backups

Hello, I have a few questions regarding the TWRP recovery particularly the NANDroid backups, please bear with me as I am new to this. I have made a few backups using twrp but I want to put them onto my pc in order to save space however when I plug my phone into my pc I don’t see the TWRP folder unless I boot into recovery and then plug it in. Is this how it is supposed to be?
I wanted to test out restoring a backup that I had saved onto my pc onto my device. To test this out I created a backup through TWRP booted into recovery plugged in my device into my computer copied the backup file located in the TWRP folder and then deleted it from my device. Next I wanted to copy the backup that I just put on my pc back onto my phone and then eventually restore it through TWRP. However I only get as far as copying it from my device onto my pc. When I try to copy it back into the TWRP folder on my device I get an error saying “cannot copy data.ext4.win000 its file size is larger than the device limit” The backup is 4.83gb and I have 10.7gb free. Does anyone know why this is happening?
Last question, seeing as a NanDroid backup is basically an image of your whole device, let’s say I am selling my device and I don’t want the buyer to have any way of accessing any of my data. Would the deletion of my backups, factory reset and an advanced wipe where I select all the partitions to be wiped be enough?
Thank you in advance for your help!
1 - no. You're on lollipop i presume. Read my /sdcard thread in general
2 - sounds like its being mounted as FAT with 4GB file limit. Try web push method
3 - not really. You'd be best overwriting the data partition with files first.

[Q] Problem with CWM backup files

Hi everybody,
I need help accessing backed up data of my Nexus 5. I have made several backups with CWM and I downloaded these backups as ZIPs to my desktop pc via Wifi with the Rom Manager App. Everything worked fine so i thought I was safe... big mistake. Because now I deleted the original backups from the phone, and the restore from the downloaded ZIPs is not working.
The problem is that all the ZIPs seem to be corrupted. I cannot open them for example with 7zip (sadly I didn't test that before) on my windows PC, and when I restore them in the recovery mode on the phone, CWM says: can't open (bad file). Strange is, that all the 5 downloaded ZIPs have all the exact size of 2 GB. That is unlikely, because I made these backups within several months, in my opinion the size of the backup should differ, because the data on the phone changed over time.
Can anybody tell me, how to get to the data within these ZIP files?
And why have all the CWM backups the same size? Is there something that limits this to 2 GB?
Any help is appreciated.
Jan7747 said:
Hi everybody,
I need help accessing backed up data of my Nexus 5. I have made several backups with CWM and I downloaded these backups as ZIPs to my desktop pc via Wifi with the Rom Manager App. Everything worked fine so i thought I was safe... big mistake. Because now I deleted the original backups from the phone, and the restore from the downloaded ZIPs is not working.
The problem is that all the ZIPs seem to be corrupted. I cannot open them for example with 7zip (sadly I didn't test that before) on my windows PC, and when I restore them in the recovery mode on the phone, CWM says: can't open (bad file). Strange is, that all the 5 downloaded ZIPs have all the exact size of 2 GB. That is unlikely, because I made these backups within several months, in my opinion the size of the backup should differ, because the data on the phone changed over time.
Can anybody tell me, how to get to the data within these ZIP files?
And why have all the CWM backups the same size? Is there something that limits this to 2 GB?
Any help is appreciated.
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It's better to use TWRP.
For the future OK, but that does not help me getting to my data of the existing CWM backups...
I don't need to completely restore it on the phone, it would be enough to get to the media folder, to get some pics, and maybe to the call/SMS log and WhatsApp log.
Jan7747 said:
For the future OK, but that does not help me getting to my data of the existing CWM backups...
I don't need to completely restore it on the phone, it would be enough to get to the media folder, to get some pics, and maybe to the call/SMS log and WhatsApp log.
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If you want your pics back, you won't get them from CWM backup, because nandroid backups do not backup camera pics.
Best solution is to use this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger.

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