So I ordered the phone through the google store with the option to get the finance deal through verizon. I'm curious if I'm going to get a bootloader unlockable phone since I placed the order through the google store and the phone should be coming from google not verizon. I get the phone in a couple of days, I'll update this when I get it.
If you bought the VZW version, it will be locked, and is not unlockable.
Anything that comes with carrier discounts and financing will be locked.
Yes, that is usually the case although some will allow unlocking once the device is paid off. Verizon does not do that currently. Also it needs to be clear that Google sells 3 versions of Pixel 5 (and other Pixels). Google brand unlocked entirely, Google Fi also unlocked but serviced and warrantied by Fi, and the Verizon one which is not bl unlockable.
Well that sucks, but it's what I expected. The unlocked version of the phone would not work on Verizon's 5G network which is why I went in that direction instead. Oh well...
I have the unlocked version here rooted on Verizon via sim swap from my pixel 2, and I was able to connect with 5g
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Well that sucks, but it's what I expected. The unlocked version of the phone would not work on Verizon's 5G network which is why I went in that direction instead. Oh well...
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Well that sucks, but it's what I expected. The unlocked version of the phone would not work on Verizon's 5G network which is why I went in that direction instead. Oh well...
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I too have an unlocked Google P5 and I have no problems connecting to the Verizon network whether it's LTE or 5G. Where did you get that information?
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Well that sucks, but it's what I expected. The unlocked version of the phone would not work on Verizon's 5G network which is why I went in that direction instead. Oh well...
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I too have an unlocked Google P5 and I have no problems connecting to the Verizon network whether it's LTE or 5G. Where did you get that information?
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I believe the Verizon Pixel 5 can still connect to 5G but not Verizon's milometer wave 5G. My understanding is that mmWave 5G is just a much faster type of 5G that covers smaller areas (think football stadiums or major urban centers).
I was in the same position of choosing the VZW or unlocked version and went with unlocked because I really don't care too much about getting super-mega fast speeds in very precise locations (even though I'm in downtown NYC)
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I believe the Verizon Pixel 5 can still connect to 5G but not Verizon's milometer wave 5G. My understanding is that mmWave 5G is just a much faster type of 5G that covers smaller areas (think football stadiums or major urban centers).
I was in the same position of choosing the VZW or unlocked version and went with unlocked because I really don't care too much about getting super-mega fast speeds in very precise locations (even though I'm in downtown NYC)
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I don't believe that to be correct regarding the mmWave. In Europe that was the case and therefore the phone was less expensive by $100. But every P5 sold in the US has mmWave antennas in them and can connect to the Verizon high speed 5G. If you are in NYC I'd love to hear the speeds you're getting. I believe the city has it almost all over.
The VZW and unlocked P5 are the same price outside of any promotions so it really doesn't matter which you have. I have the Google one and my wife got the Verizon one on some crazy P3 trade-in deal. We both get 5G although not the high speed one. Yet. ;-)
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I believe the Verizon Pixel 5 can still connect to 5G but not Verizon's milometer wave 5G. My understanding is that mmWave 5G is just a much faster type of 5G that covers smaller areas (think football stadiums or major urban centers).
I was in the same position of choosing the VZW or unlocked version and went with unlocked because I really don't care too much about getting super-mega fast speeds in very precise locations (even though I'm in downtown NYC)
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This is not correct. 5G and mmWave connectivity are the same for Pixel 5 whether you get the Verizon or the non-Verizon version -- they are the same hardware model. The only difference is the locked bootloader when you get it from Verizon.
Check the Pixel 5 tech specs Network section and note that there is only one hardware model, which supports mmWave. (However, this is not the case for Pixel 4a 5G which has two hardware models, only one of which supports mmWave.)
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I don't believe that to be correct regarding the mmWave. In Europe that was the case and therefore the phone was less expensive by $100. But every P5 sold in the US has mmWave antennas in them and can connect to the Verizon high speed 5G. If you are in NYC I'd love to hear the speeds you're getting. I believe the city has it almost all over.
The VZW and unlocked P5 are the same price outside of any promotions so it really doesn't matter which you have. I have the Google one and my wife got the Verizon one on some crazy P3 trade-in deal. We both get 5G although not the high speed one. Yet. ;-)
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This is not correct. 5G and mmWave connectivity are the same for Pixel 5 whether you get the Verizon or the non-Verizon version -- they are the same hardware model. The only difference is the locked bootloader when you get it from Verizon.
Check the Pixel 5 tech specs Network section and note that there is only one hardware model, which supports mmWave. (However, this is not the case for Pixel 4a 5G which has two hardware models, only one of which supports mmWave.)
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Oh nice, well this is good to hear. I just did a quick speed test from my apartment and I get ~100mb/s down and 32mb/s up
After being with Verizon since can remember (25+ years) switched to AT&T and I am finally seeing 5g on my Pixel 5 since owning it since release day.
Though this does nothing for bootloader unlocking
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The backstory.... Preordered an ATT Note 7 and had many headaches with delivery / billing. I am now living with my old Note3 using Goggle Voice/Hangouts because of my weak signal (all carriers) at home. I'm using a pre-paid Straight Talk plan when away from home.
I've been waiting patiently for the S8+ and now need to decide between AT&T and T-Mobile for a GSM phone. I plan on paying full cash price and having it unlocked to use a 3rd part prepaid plan (Straight Talk or ?).
I considered a factory unlocked phone (Best Buy, May 9th??) but I am told that those will also have a locked bootloader. Up until the Note 7 I always ran rooted with custom ROMS. I became a big fan of Samsung Pay which I think also means a locked bootloader with no root is needed. Of coarse, bloatware sucks. I had good luck with Package Disabler Pro on my Note 7. I will be using my Google number, if only for forwarding to another number. WiFi calling is a must one way or another.
My Note 7 from ATT let me run Mobile Hotspot at the same time WiFi was enabled. This made it easy for giving my Android head unit in my car Internet access. The T-mobile version at the time needed to be turned on and off.
I'm leaning toward T-mobile only because of my bad blood with ATT. ATT coverage is marginally better in my area.
Thoughts, comments.
Either and flash the OS on it with ODIN. It is the same hardware so it doesnt matter.
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Either and flash the OS on it with ODIN. It is the same hardware so it doesnt matter.
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Yes and also if the T-Mobile version is going to have an unlocked bootloader, flashing T-Mobile firmware should allow you to unlock it through the OS.
But it's highly unlikely it will have an unlocked bootloader, although T-Mobile have supported it, I don't think it's happening.
No unlocked bootloaders on u.s.a. Carriers....
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No unlocked bootloaders on u.s.a. Carriers....
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I get that if you buy a carrier phone and then unlock it. But what about the factory unlocked phones sold in the US?
I've heard that the bootloader on those phones is also locked, but not from a real good source of info. I've also heard international versions do not have a locked bootloader and do not support Samsung Pay. They also do not support CDMA (which doesn't bother me at all).
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Yes and also if the T-Mobile version is going to have an unlocked bootloader, flashing T-Mobile firmware should allow you to unlock it through the OS.
But it's highly unlikely it will have an unlocked bootloader, although T-Mobile have supported it, I don't think it's happening.
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If I flash via ODIN does that kill Samsung Pay? What about Knox?
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The backstory.... Preordered an ATT Note 7 and had many headaches with delivery / billing. I am now living with my old Note3 using Goggle Voice/Hangouts because of my weak signal (all carriers) at home. I'm using a pre-paid Straight Talk plan when away from home.
I've been waiting patiently for the S8+ and now need to decide between AT&T and T-Mobile for a GSM phone. I plan on paying full cash price and having it unlocked to use a 3rd part prepaid plan (Straight Talk or ?).
I considered a factory unlocked phone (Best Buy, May 9th??) but I am told that those will also have a locked bootloader. Up until the Note 7 I always ran rooted with custom ROMS. I became a big fan of Samsung Pay which I think also means a locked bootloader with no root is needed. Of coarse, bloatware sucks. I had good luck with Package Disabler Pro on my Note 7. I will be using my Google number, if only for forwarding to another number. WiFi calling is a must one way or another.
My Note 7 from ATT let me run Mobile Hotspot at the same time WiFi was enabled. This made it easy for giving my Android head unit in my car Internet access. The T-mobile version at the time needed to be turned on and off.
I'm leaning toward T-mobile only because of my bad blood with ATT. ATT coverage is marginally better in my area.
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I'm in a similar situation and my first concern is what bands both phones support. Online it seems AT&T covers both GSM providers perfectly. The info on T-Mobile and its bands is extremely lacking. My second concern is the process of unlocking either fully paid off phone for use on the other. I think I can have TMobile unlock it for me but I'm not sure how it works with AT&T. The easiest solution is the unlocked version but thats not even got a release date set in writing anywhere.
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As long you are flashing official firmware from Samsung nothing will break. Knox will not be tripped and Samsung Pay will work.
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I'm in a similar situation and my first concern is what bands both phones support. Online it seems AT&T covers both GSM providers perfectly. The info on T-Mobile and its bands is extremely lacking. My second concern is the process of unlocking either fully paid off phone for use on the other. I think I can have TMobile unlock it for me but I'm not sure how it works with AT&T. The easiest solution is the unlocked version but thats not even got a release date set in writing anywhere.
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It is my understanding that all US (Snapdragon) phones cover all bands, including CDMA. That means you could even take an unlocked AT&T phone to Verizon. I'm not used to that! It even has LTE-U which TMo is supposed to be soon supporting.
I am an ex AT&T customer. They unlocked my Note 7, and again with the replacement, without issue. I seem to remember there was a wait period at first. 7 or 14 days?
The thing I'm considering is also the VR incentives for pre-ordering. I can tell you AT&T messed up my Note 7 pre-order. They shipped it on the release day by a slow method. I ended up going to a store and buying one outright and returning the unopened one once it arrived. That caused a billing nightmare that I had to call them every months until I finally turned it in and closed my account.
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It is my understanding that all US (Snapdragon) phones cover all bands, including CDMA. That means you could even take an unlocked AT&T phone to Verizon. I'm not used to that! It even has LTE-U which TMo is supposed to be soon supporting.
I am an ex AT&T customer. They unlocked my Note 7, and again with the replacement, without issue. I seem to remember there was a wait period at first. 7 or 14 days?
The thing I'm considering is also the VR incentives for pre-ordering. I can tell you AT&T messed up my Note 7 pre-order. They shipped it on the release day by a slow method. I ended up going to a store and buying one outright and returning the unopened one once it arrived. That caused a billing nightmare that I had to call them every months until I finally turned it in and closed my account.
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Can you recall where you read the carrier versions support all the bands just like the unlocked versions? All the info I found from the carriers shows different bands on each model.
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I get that if you buy a carrier phone and then unlock it. But what about the factory unlocked phones sold in the US?
I've heard that the bootloader on those phones is also locked, but not from a real good source of info. I've also heard international versions do not have a locked bootloader and do not support Samsung Pay. They also do not support CDMA (which doesn't bother me at all).
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You're missing what I'm saying... There will be no unlocked bootloaders on any Samsung S8 phones for the USA. You cannot get one from carrier or factory.
I think you may be mixing up Bootloader unlock and Sim unlock....
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Can you recall where you read the carrier versions support all the bands just like the unlocked versions? All the info I found from the carriers shows different bands on each model.
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I do remember that it was a story about FCC approval of the factory unlocked (SIM) phone. Keep that in mind that it may be the unbranded, factory unlocked phone only, but the article did say they were all the same. The locked carrier phones may not be so flexible.
Other things I've found.. Best Buy SIM unlocked does not get the incentives. Best Buy, and their cheaper price, does not seem to offer a T-Mo phone.
The VR incentive is attractive to me, but is not a must have. At this moment, until I can find out for sure if Samsung Pay will work on an international version, I am leaning towards a T-Mo pre-order. But that is me and my preferences YMMV. I have a major dislike for AT&T.
Looking for where I read it. In the mean time this may be interesting to you.
Model numbers http://techbeasts.com/list-of-samsung-galaxy-s8-galaxy-s8plus-model-numbers/
Frequencies https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/OyqBp/samsung-sm-g955a-galaxy-s8-td-lte-samsung-dream
The link is for the AT&T model search for other models.
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Can you recall where you read the carrier versions support all the bands just like the unlocked versions? All the info I found from the carriers shows different bands on each model.
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It appears that going by this information the factory unlocked and the AT&T are NOT the same https://www.frequencycheck.com/compare-devices/6MQWs05y/samsung-sm-g950a-galaxy-s8-td-lte-samsung-dream/samsung-sm-g950f-galaxy-s8-td-lte-samsung-dream
You're correct that it seems T-mo info is evasive.
Hello,
I would like to know, if it posible to buy the Galaxy S8 from the samsung web page (att version), then unlock it and after that flash the unlocked rom flashing it with odin.
Can someone help me?
thanks.
Just ordered the 955F from Clove...
I'm hoping that missing bands won't hurt my AT&T usage much. Or any prepaid sims I may throw in there.
Will see if the 955U info comes out before my phone, and will decide if I want to cancel.
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I pre-ordered the unlocked 8t before I knew T-Mobile was releasing their own version. I'd like to know if there are any 5G performance features that the T-Mobile version has that the unlocked version doesn't. I searched around and one place said the only difference is software-related. Would I be better off returning the unlocked 8t and buying the T-Mobile version?
Just depends on what your needs are. The unlocked version will get 5G service just fine. T-mobile version claims to optimize the network, however I'm not 100%sure about that. If you're wanting easy bootloader unlock and flash custom roms the unlocked might be the better way to go, otherwise the t-mobile version is fine as this is the variant I have.
I'm sure my rambling didn't help you much.
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Only difference between the TMobile variant and unlocked is the IP68 certification.
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Only difference between the TMobile variant and unlocked is the IP68 certification.
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And single sim tray, locked bootloader as well as no AOD
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And single sim tray, locked bootloader as well as no AOD
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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)
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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)
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That's not what I said. Yes I know that it can be unlocked. The unlocked version comes unlockable
And not everyone has an easy time at obtaining an unlock code from T-mobile either. ..
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Those three things apply to the T-Moblie variant? And which one has the ip68 rating?
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Yes those 3 things applies to the T-mobile variant. Official IP68 is the T-mobile one as well
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@bbowman I have T-Mobile too and I've Supported OPO, OP3, OP3T, OP5, OP6T Global and now OP8T Global. I've always bought the Global Ed and have had no issues using them on the T-Mobile network. The only differences I saw between the T-Mobile version of the 6T and the Global was the T-Mobile ver got Network "Improvement" updates to "better" tune the software to work with T-Mobile Towers and it only had 1 SIM slot. With the 6T once it was unlocked it could be flashed with a Global Firmware.
Should be fine
Currently on the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro on T-Mobile. I get all the 5G, including the standalone (after getting an R15 SIM card from the nearest T-Mobile store). You shouldn't have any issues with the unlocked 8T (mine will get delivered today) in terms of 5G, and you get the flexibility of dual-SIM. Win-win.
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I pre-ordered the unlocked 8t before I knew T-Mobile was releasing their own version. I'd like to know if there are any 5G performance features that the T-Mobile version has that the unlocked version doesn't. I searched around and one place said the only difference is software-related. Would I be better off returning the unlocked 8t and buying the T-Mobile version?
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Currently on the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro on T-Mobile. I get all the 5G, including the standalone (after getting an R15 SIM card from the nearest T-Mobile store). You shouldn't have any issues with the unlocked 8T (mine will get delivered today) in terms of 5G, and you get the flexibility of dual-SIM. Win-win.
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Mine arrived yesterday and I was surprised to see that I had 5G coverage (central Orange County, CA)! My SIM card is many years old, will I somehow get better 5G service if I swap in a newer card?
Yeah, I was getting 5G just fine. The newer SIM lets you access the standalone 5g network (when available), which I believe should give you even better downloads/uploads and lower latency. It doesn't share the frequency band with 4G, is the thing. As I understand it, anyway.
In my practical experience, I popped in the new SIM and got 400MBps standing outside the T-Mobile store. I hadn't seen that previously.
I'm sure it's fine without, but if you're near a store, it can only improve what sounds like is already a good experience for you.
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Mine arrived yesterday and I was surprised to see that I had 5G coverage (central Orange County, CA)! My SIM card is many years old, will I somehow get better 5G service if I swap in a newer card?
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Yeah, I was getting 5G just fine. The newer SIM lets you access the standalone 5g network (when available), which I believe should give you even better downloads/uploads and lower latency. It doesn't share the frequency band with 4G, is the thing. As I understand it, anyway.
In my practical experience, I popped in the new SIM and got 400MBps standing outside the T-Mobile store. I hadn't seen that previously.
I'm sure it's fine without, but if you're near a store, it can only improve what sounds like is already a good experience for you.
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Thanks I didn't know that about the new sim version. I got international on t mobile. My 7t is international and I been with tmo for 14 years. I noticed with 7t and now 8t, visual voicemail NEVER works unless I have the tmo version. My 6t was tmo version, won't make that mistake again, but nonetheless, I was curious, does yours work? And my rcs is on and off bi weekly, always connecting, or trying.
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Tmobile version bootloader can be unlocked after sim unlock (which can be achieved by contacting Tmobile support on Twitter, did it for 7Pro and 6T)
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Do you have to meet the Tmo unlock requirements or can twitter support bypass the restrictions?
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Do you have to meet the Tmo unlock requirements or can twitter support bypass the restrictions?
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It been said most people are able to get it bypassed via Tforce (twitter T-Mobile support) as long as ypur nice to them. Thats what im gonna do when i get mine tommorow and have the imei. It looks like the only requirement in order to request the bootloader unlock code is having it sim unlocked (with up to 2 day waiting for the unlock file for bootloader).
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Thanks I didn't know that about the new sim version. I got international on t mobile. My 7t is international and I been with tmo for 14 years. I noticed with 7t and now 8t, visual voicemail NEVER works unless I have the tmo version. My 6t was tmo version, won't make that mistake again, but nonetheless, I was curious, does yours work? And my rcs is on and off bi weekly, always connecting, or trying.
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I did the same thing with the TMo 6T. In-app visual voicemail was the only advantage. I just use the T-Mobile visual voicemail app since then, and it's mostly fine. As for RCS, mine has been connected solid side I set the phone up. Maybe try clearing cache/storage on Messages/Google Play Services?
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I did the same thing with the TMo 6T. In-app visual voicemail was the only advantage. I just use the T-Mobile visual voicemail app since then, and it's mostly fine. As for RCS, mine has been connected solid side I set the phone up. Maybe try clearing cache/storage on Messages/Google Play Services?
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Yes I have just accepted no visual voicemail, oneplus customer service sucks and can't understand what I'm telling them. Confused at whether I'm saying I have a tmo variant or not. I have not had one, for 6t or 7t.
Rcs I have got working. Had to opt out on the online form, then turn it off for a while and disable carrier services.
Hey all,
I'm looking at getting an Exynos or an HK version of the S22 series. I saw none of the other versions besides the U supports bands 29 and 30 that AT&T uses. Since they seem to be the more minor bands, how much does it matter and how much does the lack of those bands impact service? And does AT&T ban those S22 versions from their 5G networks?
I'm starting to get tired of OP, but I want something I can tinker without having to deal with AT&T's Sammy versions.
Thanks!
AT&T won't support the international models on their network or so various users have said in other posts. You end up locked out. T-Mobile doesn't do this but the long range 5G and LTE band 71 is missing from the international versions which would mean no coverage in any areas using band 71. Either way you are screwed on AT&T and T-Mobile. Don't have any info on Verizon. Best suggestion is. (Don't Do It)
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AT&T won't support the international models on their network or so various users have said in other posts. You end up locked out. T-Mobile doesn't do this but the long range 5G and LTE band 71 is missing from the international versions which would mean no coverage in any areas using band 71. Either way you are screwed on AT&T and T-Mobile. Don't have any info on Verizon. Best suggestion is. (Don't Do It)
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Crap. Guess my only option would be getting an AT&T version and using a paid service to unlock the BL and SIM.
We already tried T-Mobile last year and had a really bad experience with service and network quality, so they're out.
Thanks for the info!
You might want to rethink the Exynos version and look at one of the SD versions that can be rooted.
I am afraid you will not be able to get the bootloader unlocked (I may be wrong there). Rooting is not possible on the US or Canadian S22. I just switched to TMO this year and so far have had no issues. I use their 5G home internet too.
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You might want to rethink the Exynos version and look at one of the SD versions that can be rooted.
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So is that the Hong Kong and Korea versions? Again brings up the question of if bands 29 and 30 missing impacts service and if so, how much.
If I get an AT&T BL unlocked with a paid service, can I root using the method listed in another thread?
Superguy said:
Crap. Guess my only option would be getting an AT&T version and using a paid service to unlock the BL and SIM.
We already tried T-Mobile last year and had a really bad experience with service and network quality, so they're out.
Thanks for the info!
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I don't see the S22 series in the list yet. So might wanna further research that.
PSA: Unlock Bootloader on Snapdragon Galaxy Devices with SamPWND (Paid Service)
SamPWND is a paid remote service that allows you to unlock the bootloader on Snapdragon Samsung Galaxy devices sold in the USA and Canada.
www.thecustomdroid.com
There are many posts on here attesting to the fact that the US models of the S22 cannot be rooted. The BL cannot be unlocked, so no root.
May I ask what you are trying to achieve with root? Do you have something in mind or do you just want a custom ROM. There are other issues with rooting the phone. Main one is loss of Knox. This will stop the Samsung apps from working. So there is a trade-off no matter what.
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May I ask what you are trying to achieve with root? Do you have something in mind or do you just want a custom ROM. There are other issues with rooting the phone. Main one is loss of Knox. This will stop the Samsung apps from working. So there is a trade-off no matter what.
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There are magisk mods I run on my phone as well as some Xposed mods.
Not terribly concerned about Samsung apps. I haven't had a Samsung phone in years. Last one I had was an S8 and I only got that thru insurance when I lost my OP6.
Understand. Just wanted to let you know that things like Samsung Pay and Health Monitoring will no longer work and this can not be fixed if you change your mind. I did read that AT&T will ban any international phone from their network, so you do not want to go that way if you intend on staying with them. I think there was talk about the Korean model being SD and was missing band 71 (I think). There is no full solution out there unless a way comes along to unlock the BL.
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Understand. Just wanted to let you know that things like Samsung Pay and Health Monitoring will no longer work and this can not be fixed if you change your mind. I did read that AT&T will ban any international phone from their network, so you do not want to go that way if you intend on staying with them. I think there was talk about the Korean model being SD and was missing band 71 (I think). There is no full solution out there unless a way comes along to unlock the BL.
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AT&T doesn't use 71, so not a big deal. T-Mo did.
We tried T-Mo in the summer and had a horrible experience. We went running back to AT&T after 3 months.
When you say banned, are you talking about just the 5G or the entire network? I'm already blocked from 5G with my OP phones. I can't say I miss it as I wasn't impressed with it on T-Mo, and LTE does what I need it to do. Outright banning seems like a stupid thing to do, especially as a lot of foreign travelers could very well end up using AT&T while they're here. But then again, it IS AT&T ...
From what I read, AT&T will ban your IEMI if it is an international phone so it will not work on their network. They are the only ones that do this as far as I know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...lash-official-firmware-noob-friendly.4404283/
Check this out. Long read through all the posts, but may be able to answer your questions. There are other discussions on the US models and international models, so just look around.
You ain't gonna win with the U.S. Carriers. They absolutely don't want you rooting your phone on their networks. Why do you think all U.S. models have unlockable bootloader's when shipped from Samsung? Because they demand it. They also know you will try to get around it and when you do they will screw you by banning your device. If you gotta have a rooted phone move to another country lol.
Hello all,
I read online that Verizon and AT&T would be carrying the 5G mmwave version of the Pixel 6a only. Anyone know if it is possible to purchase this phone outright from a carrier with bootloader unlocked? I have no interest in getting one of these phones without OEM unlocking enabled, but I don't want to miss out on features either. Thank you.
From a carrier no, you can't get an unlocked phone. You most likely will have to buy it from the google store. Saying that, if you load the Android 13 load for the pixel 6a, c-band 5G and mmWave 5g should be available for it I believe. Unless they switched the samsung modem chip to a different one from the 6/6 pro to the 6a.
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Hello all,
I read online that Verizon and AT&T would be carrying the 5G mmwave version of the Pixel 6a only. Anyone know if it is possible to purchase this phone outright from a carrier with bootloader unlocked? I have no interest in getting one of these phones without OEM unlocking enabled, but I don't want to miss out on features either. Thank you.
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You can't buy any phone with a bootloader unlocked. I presume you mean bootloader unlockable, i.e. OEM switch active and not grayed out. Forget Verizon completely but I'm not sure about ATT. Verizon charges $100 more for a technology that is dubious at best at this point and ATT is about $20 more. If you consider it a feature that you will use you'll have to buy the device from one or the other. Personally I don't care about mmWave and I have Verizon as a carrier. There is no way I'd give up being able to unlock the bootloader even though I don't unlock it any longer. But I want the option and I've been know to flip the switch before I install an update or some other beta just so I can roll back albeit with a full device wipe.
You can buy an unlocked version from Google without 5G mmWave or from BB for about the same price. Check with ATT see if the device is carrier unlocked and bootloader unlockable or wait for someone to buy one from ATT and come here to see if there is a bypass for the OEM switch. As I said take Verizon off your radar there is no way.
edit: Verizon is $499 only $50 more and it seems like the ATT version is the same $449 price. I'm still not sure is the ATT version is unlockable though and if it for certain has the mmWave tech in it. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of ATT could chime in.
Hey all,
I saw that Best Buy has the unlocked P7P model GA03453-US while the Google store version is GE2AE. Is there a difference between the models? I can't find the BB model on Google's or anyone else's site.
Just want to make sure it's had MMW 5G and that 5G will work on AT&T's site.
Would it also be worth buying an open box model in excellent condition and over $100 off?
Thanks!
I wish that they would stop doing these confusing model numbers at stores. The GA03453-US is actually the GE2AE, it's just how Best Buy and other retailers catalog the phone. I bought one on release day and can confirm it's the standard US unlocked GE2AE model and I'm using it with a Boost AT&T network SIM with no issues.
Google GA03453 US
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• Universal Unlocked. Compatible with all major U.S. carriers, including Verizon, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile. Also compatible with prepaid carriers including Cricket Wireless, MetroPCS, Google Fi, Simple Mobile, Total Wireless, Tracfone, Net10, Mint, and H2O.
I agree with everything @EtherealRemnant said ⬆ right there. Google's not the only one, but certainly one of the brands I come across most often with this problem.
Edit: I forgot that I already have all the model number pairs in my Post #6 - Regarding P7P 5G model numbers and capabilities, and how to determine your hardware version, although I don't have them organized by pairs. The one model number type at the top of the post, and the other at the bottom.
roirraW edor ehT said:
I agree with everything @EtherealRemnant said ⬆ right there. Google's not the only one, but certainly one of the brands I come across most often with this problem.
Edit: I forgot that I already have all the model number pairs in my Post #6 - Regarding P7P 5G model numbers and capabilities, and how to determine your hardware version, although I don't have them organized by pairs. The one model number type at the top of the post, and the other at the bottom.
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Thanks guys. Just taking a look at the options. I was hoping to find someone that could unlock AT&T's but I'm not really finding anyone reputable that claims they can do it. So I'm thinking Google's offering the best deal with the trade in. I'm looking at getting the 256GB Obsidian.
AT&T's model is listed as the GE2AE if you look for how it's set up. Not sure if any sub-branding.
And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
Lastly, if either of you want to PM me a referral, I'd appreciate it.
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Thanks guys. Just taking a look at the options. I was hoping to find someone that could unlock AT&T's but I'm not really finding anyone reputable that claims they can do it.
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I thought anyone with an at&t model could unlock once you pay the phone off, like t-mobile, but I'm not experienced, I've only bought carrier unlocked phones for the last six years and I had come from Verizon back then.
But it is indeed easiest not to have to deal with the carriers and just buy the factory carrier unlocked model direct from Google, or Best Buy, or other places that offer them.
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AT&T's model is listed as the GE2AE if you look for how it's set up. Not sure if any sub-branding.
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Thanks, good to know.
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And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
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Yes. That won't affect anything like that.
Superguy said:
And I take it I'll actually be able to use AT&T's 5G if I buy out unlocked, correct?
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Yep. We don't have C-band here but my Boost SIM is connected to 5G Nationwide and the phone supports mmWave and C-band.
roirraW edor ehT said:
I thought anyone with an at&t model could unlock once you pay the phone off, like t-mobile, but I'm not experienced, I've only bought carrier unlocked phones for the last six years and I had come from Verizon back then.
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They'll do that. I just don't want to wait.
Not like I'd bolt to another carrier. We tried T-Mo last summer and that's a fiasco I never want to repeat. Plus AT&T gives me a really good deal with a FAN from work.
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They'll do that. I just don't want to wait.
Not like I'd bolt to another carrier. We tried T-Mo last summer and that's a fiasco I never want to repeat. Plus AT&T gives me a really good deal with a FAN from work.
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Understandable. I had to Google what AT&T FAN is. I didn't know the abbreviation off the top of my head, but Google's search results were actually helpful. I used to use a work discount too with AT&T and before that, one with Verizon. The last four years, give or take, we've just been using AT&T Prepaid, and it's been cheaper than all our previous options and works great for our usage. Every once in a while I look at other options or carriers, but there's nothing enticing enough.