How the hell do you transfer files on this cell? - Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Questions & Answers

Does anyone know how you are supposed to transfer files from microsd storage to otg storage?
I have just spent the last 4hrs failing to do so?
I have given every permission I can think of an I get a picture telling me I have to give further permissions that are not available?
Global 6gb ram an 128g storage. Miui 12.0.4.0.
I have had 4 Xiaomi cellphones an simply transferring files pictures an movies has been a major headache with all of them.
Where am I going wrong?
So edit. The only way to shift files from a microsd card to an otg usb is with a computer.
in my view thats just not good enough. Nubia Huawei an even samsung can all directly transfer from sd card to anywhere you like.
Why are Xiaomi an Poco like this? I think its something they should work on. file transfer is a pretty basic function that miui completely fails on :-/

Found it OK, You will need to use the dropdown menu from the notification panel to copy though.
Tried 3rd party app and kept asking for permission or usb didn't show up in storage list at all.

ultramag69 said:
Found it OK, You will need to use the dropdown menu from the notification panel to copy though.
Tried 3rd party app and kept asking for permission or usb didn't show up in storage list at all.
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I tried about 5 3rd party apps. I think it's a Miui weakness. I find the only way to transfer from sd card to otg storage is via computer with cable. Miui has always been like this. I think my next device will be oneplus. Xiaomi/poco are great cells but Miui misses the mark in some basic functionality. Like transferring things an what I call the micro status bar. You need custom roms or to write a code to get status bar to increase. Love Xiaomi but not it's weaknesses

I'm using FTP server and wifi(866mbit).
MTP over Usb 2.0 soooo slow, wifi link faster(transfer speed ob my sandisk extreme- ~50-55 MByte/s).

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[Q] wifi xoom sdcard update

Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
soon..... its killing us all but at least we got one.... Thank you Motorola
silly how it wasnt released with it being active
Tick tick tick......
more threads about this please
ericman77 said:
Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
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I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
cwizardtx said:
I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
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Sorry but I would like the SD card to be working since it is much easier to transfer files then using another pc. When I am at work I simply pull my sdcard and use it in other peoples phones to give them updates, videos, etc without having to download it to their device. Thats one thing I do miss with my xoom and find myself waiting until I'm back home to put files on my xoom that I dont feel like waiting to download over 3G.
Love my Xoom and SD card support I can wait for, just hope its not a long wait
As I see where your coming from with the options man, my primary purpose of for an SD card is to store movies. If I keep a few 32GB sdcards onhand I can have my entire movie collection at my fingertips. Other than that I really don't have a need for one, its more of a added luxury.. It hasn't killed me thus far not having one, just waiting patiently ;-p.. Im also interested in the capabilities of the USB hosting as far as externals are concerned and exploring those possibilities but first they need to make a dock which has an output for USB. Its ridiculous that they release a so called Multimedia Dock without a USB hookup ugghh..
a temporary solution - for those who want more space - is using PlayOn and DropBox... I like to keep everything in the cloud.
Dropbox. End of story.
I heard a rumor it would be released Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow what???
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bwcorvus said:
Tomorrow...
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It's tomorrow today... LMAO
looks to me
Looks to me like this is the issue ->
Xoom ships with 32gb internal storage. It appears to have a folder on it called /sdcard which would normally be where you mount your sdcard. Android likes to save all of your pictures, movies, downloads, etc. on your /sdcard/.
Simply put, sounds like if they had shipped it with /sdcard as the mount point for your /sdcard, your ttu (typical tard user) would be forced to buy an sdcard to do anything with the tablet other than download apps from the market. This would give a bulking 32gb partition for system apps which would be unusable by camera, downloads, etc. until whatever software update will come down the road.
I too have a metric ****ton of micro sd cards laying around, but I dont mind so much not being able to use them in the xoom, because between pogoplug and tversity, with the occasional compliment of astro with cifs (smb) plugin, I can access anything I want from it's home on my network, and dont have to worry about syncing stuff between devices.
I'd much rather use my tablet to access my stuff than to store my stuff, period. For all of you mediaphiles out there, take a look at tversity. I've been using it for years, and it will live transcode & stream your media to anywhere, meaning you dont have to carry any of it around to be able to watch it. For the $30 one-time investment of the pro version, it will transcode to your mobile devices, android or even snapple. The free version will transcode & stream to absolutely anything else.. upnp media browsers, x360, ps3, media center, xbmc, etc.
we may fix SD before Motorola does... it's iffy. We know where the problem is and how Motorola turned it off. We need board schematics to know how to route power to the controller. Otherwise its hit and miss.
leenypost said:
It's tomorrow today... LMAO
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BRD is going to have it working today
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Its coming tomorrow...
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Groundhog's day
bwcorvus said:
Its coming tomorrow...
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You've been saying that everyday dude. LOL
Not happening until the weeks before the 16gb Xoom drops. Watch.
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what about internet
Everyone is saying use dropbox, use cloud to store files. Well remember this is Xoom Wifi, so that means if you're not home or don't have access to a hotspot then you are tost. So the idea that you can have a micro SD or even a few micro SD with all you need on it on the go sounds way more like a reasonable option then clod base or dropbox with limited storage. And with the hack to use an external storage like a wd portable hardrive is even more if an option. Imagine having access to 500 GB of data at you finger tips. Even in the cave or over the mountain with no wireless signal or wifi connection. Now that's what I call Xoom, Xoom, Xoom.

Connecting Android phone to transformer

Hi guys,
I have the asus to USB adapter for my transformer. I'm trying to plug in my galaxy s2 as a mass storage DEVICE. I want to be able to transfer files between devices without a computer in between. Bluetooth is just way too slow and fickle. However it recognises the phone and shows the sd card (not internal storage) but if I try and access the folders it says file not found or something.
Anyone made this work or have any other ideas? Sometimes I'm on the road and need a quick way to move large video files from phone to tablet. All the sync apps seem way too slow and use heaps of data I dont have, as free wifi is hard to find in new Zealand.
Thanks in advance
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I hope I'm understanding u but forget the USB process altogether and use 1 micro SD card. Using a file manger on your sgs2 u can place the video files onto the micro SD and then physically take out the card and place it in your tf. Then use a file manager on your tf to either access it and or copy the files onto your internal tf memory.
You may not be able to access your micro SD card from the My Files app on your sgs2. U will need to download a file manager app from the market. Ex. Astro file manager.
U will be able to access the micro SD card from the default file manager app on the tf.
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Yeah I have thought about this. It seems like a messy way to do it though, as I have a micro sd in each, so is a lot of shuffling (and rebooting in the case of the gs2 because of the location of the sd slot). I was thinking though as the Gs2 can be mounted as USB storage, there should be some way to access it on the transformer ? I do wish google would enable an easier way of us sharing files between devices, excluding nfc of course.
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Either way...there is going to be a drawback to any method you use to end up with the same result. I use the micro sd card / file manager method all the time and have no problems nor does it seem inefficient or messy to me. This is basically the same process as using a flash drive to transfer a large file from one pc to the other.
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quick and cheeky answer- get a keyboard dock.
i have the SGS2 aswell and all i do is use the phones usb cable and plug it into the USB port on the dock, hey presto it all works fine.
you could try to connect to the tablet over direct wifi too- the SGS2 has direct wifi and only 1 needs it to get it working, you could then stream the video files to the tablet.
have a look here too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJXF5pIITc
maybe PM nztechfreak on xda or his facebook page, there isnt a thing that guy doesnt know about android phones and tablets and he is very helpful indeed
You can also use the 'Samba Filesharing' app from the market place. Your phone will show up in 'My Computer/Networks' and you can read/write directly to/from the SD card.
You could probably set up some sort of ad-hoc wireless connection between the two devices, it would most likely be more reliable than bluetooth which I never got to work.
I use a NAS to copy files from my phone to my transformer.
I use ES file explorer to access the NAS from both devices, so they have a shared storage to copy to/from.
I haven't tried samba sharing of the SD card, but that sounds like a good idea too. saves one step.

Micro USB Flash Drive

Would one of these/something like it work on my Moto G: 1 2 3
If I used a file explorer, could I move apps and music from Moto storage onto flash drive and still be able to play them? Is it convenient and easy to use, 8GB is barley enough for me. Thanks
@Banana4Life ..... Look at the "Meenova" USB OTG unit (there is a thread in Moto G accessory forum but i cannot remember exactly where) you can find it by Googling. It is similar to your 3rd example, that is it can be used in Moto G also as a normal size USB in Laptop or Desktop. I have one and I see it's advantage is that it comes without a fixed memory i.e. you can put any micro sd card that you want in it i.e. 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb, 32Gb, 64Gb etc. If I remember correctly it costs $15 plus shipping & handling. It is a Chinese firm but has an office and sales point in California.
I find it most useful for keeping a copy of "sdcard" and backups which in turn can be copied to my Laptop as extra insurance LOL. I also store movies on it and can play them directly onto my phone. One word of warning (which you probably know) do not be tempted to format with NTFS - Moto G wont read it and theres a chance you will soft brick.
It looks pretty nice, much smaller than my examples. Can you play apps off the micro sd card? I would mainly use it for apps and music. Is it easy to access the stuff you put on it as well, do you use ES file explorer?
@bana4Life ..... I can't give you a definite answer to whether you can run apps directly from the Meenova device all I can say on that is that it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova, the only trouble I find is that as soon as you select the app it immediately asks if you want to "install" it and this it does on your phone not on the device. I don't know whether using one of the apps which claims to be able to transfer apps to an external sd would be able to help you out but my own limited experience with such apps as "Apps to SD", "Move to SD", "App Manager" etc has not proved very helpful.
As far as music is concerned, same as videos or movies, it is simplicity itself ..... If you run your main app to play music or video then the app automatically searches for the music etc on both your phone storage and the usb storage and plays it fine.
My file manager of choice is "Root Explorer" (from the play store), I'm presuming that you are rooted - if not you can still use "Root Explorer" but you won't have the option to read/write files, only read them and you won't have the ability to see the hidden system files.
The Meenova shows up in your file system as ...../mnt/media_rw/usbdisk. I should have mentioned before that although I am rooted and have custom recovery installed I am running the stock 4.4.3 Rom and if you are running a custom Rom then much of what I have said may not apply.
I don't think I've been a lot of help to you, however good luck with whatever you try. By the way I think my remarks apply to all USB OTG storage devices not just Meenova. Yes I think the Meenova is the smallest such device on the market.
So with the app problem, you can move an app from phone to SD, but to play it you'll have to move it back onto the phone, then after using it move it back onto SD. Is that what you can do? Also, didn't know the main music app would search the SD, thought that you would have to use something like Es File Explorer to play music (which is what I use). I am also on stock 4.4.4
You have actually been helpful, went into detail and gave info :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
@Banana4Life ..... Just a quick answer ..... When I talked about moving the app to the usb storage I was referring to the .apk ...... but when you click on it it will give you the option to "Install" which it then does on your phone so really you save nothing, the app is still installed on the phone! ..... As far as I'm concerned the only real use of usb storage is to store large amounts of data i.e. mp4 movies which would otherwise take up valuable phone memory. This applies equally to large numbers of music files.
The two apps I use for playing movies are (1) MX Player Pro and (2) Best Video Player. Both are on Play Store. Both will search for compatible video files to play on both the phone and the usb storage.
I'm not a huge music "fan" but I have my playlists which I play using the stock Google "Play Music" app (installed by default by ICS - Jelly Bean - KitKat) it's also on Play Store. This app will also search both the phone and usb storage for music files.
An apk file can be installed with out a connection right? So you can put multiple apk's on SD card, install one then uninstall it to install a different apk
@Banana4Life ..... I think we are beginning to talk about different things here LOL ..... If you download an app from the Play Store then nine times out of ten the .apk file will be downloaded to your phone in the ..../data/app.... folder - the associated "odex" file will probably be downloaded into your phone in the ..../system/app.... folder and any other associated data files will be downloaded to other phone folders ..... Now there maybe apps which will allow these files to be downloaded to your place of choice i.e. usb storage .... BUT I don't know of any apps which will do this.
You use the words ".... on SD card...." please remember the Moto G does not have an external SD card (unless of course you have the Moto E which has an external SD card) so when you use a File Manager and see the folder entitled "sdcard" this refers to the internal memory space NOT to an external card.
Yes you could swap installed apk's back and forth between usb storage and normal phone storage but it just seems to me a lot of work for not very much gain.
You say "....apk's can be installed without a connection" .... Not quite certain what you mean by that..... You don't need your phone connected to a PC by a cable ..... You can have your USB storage (Meenova) connected to your phone ...OR NOT ...... of course your phone will be connected to Play Store by WiFi, but that can't be what you mean
Yea, I am android pleb I get confused
In your 2nd reply you said apps such as App to SD were not very useful but your also said it's easy to transfer apps. By transferring apps you mean by the apk and you tried to use the App to SD to move the whole app not just the installer, but even though using App to SD it still requires you to install it on phone. Is it not possible to move the apk file for every app or do just some work? There are some tutorials saying how to make default download place an SD or how to move an app to SD.
Maybe I don't understand what an apk is? Running an apk will install the app it's for right? Just a installer. And by the connection I mean as in once you have downloaded the apk file, running it won't require a WiFi connection?
And yea you said it comes up as /mnt/media_rw/USB disk in 2nd reply as well
Sorry if this doesnt make sense :/
@Banana4Life ..... I have never found the apps that transfer files i.e. such as "App2SD" any use for my purposes ..... BUT don't let that stop you trying them ..... you might find one that suits you and most of them are free in the Play Store.
Think of an .apk file as being an .exe file on windows ..... i.e. it installs and runs the App (Program) on your phone.
You don't need to have a WiFi connection to run 99% of apps on your phone. The obvious exceptions are online games which require an interaction between you and the Internet ..... Some simulations i.e. Flying - Motor Racing - Boat racing etc ..... Some games which require you to purchase in game upgrades ..... Games where you want to post "high scores" on a web site ..... etc.etc.etc.
I've ordered a black one today, hopefully wont take 20 days like they say it can
Im still not sure about the apps. You said it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova. What method did you do to transfer it? With the picture attached, does that option come up once SD card is put in? And just to be sure, once the app is on Meenova to use it I have to install it on phone first, then be able to put it back on Meenova right?
Thanks for recommending it and loads of information - I appreciate it :good::good::good::laugh::highfive: . If apps dont work, music is still important, I'll have to experiment
@bana4Life ..... Hope you are happy with it when it arrives. When I said in post#2 that there was a sales office/warehouse in California I was making the assumption that you were in the US because then they send it by US Postal Service and it takes two days ..... HOWEVER if you are outside US (which I now understand you are) then the postage is by Chinese Postal Service which is first class crap and will probably take nearly 20 days
Whenever I talk about moving files from one location to another (i.e. from phone to usb storage or the reverse) I am always talking about using File Manager "Root Explorer Pro".
When you have usb storage attached it shows up at ------ Settings>Storage>USB On the Go Storage Mounted...... In your screenshot (which I am guessing is using one of the "App2SD" apps) any reference to SD card refers to your internal memory.
It has just occurred to me that I have been assuming all along that you have the standard XT1032 or XT1033 Moto G (with NO external SD slot)..... WHEREAS if you have the Moto G LTE or the Moto E then you do have an external sd card slot.
Anyway I think I have gone as far as I can go with helping you out. I hope that your Meenova arrives quickly and that when you use it you will be happy with what it offers.
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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No it doesn't act like a built-in SDslot. It acts like you've just plugged a memory stick into it.
Yeah copying apks will work it's just a file. Like copying any file. I just don't see what your going to gain from that. Your not going to be able to have more apps installed (ready to run).
The only practical use I've found for meenova is sharing pictures from my camera to my phone.

Why can't various SSH servers see my sdcard?

Hi,
I have a stock Galaxy S7 running 6.0.1 with an SD card configured as portable storage. I tried two SSH servers (Ssh Server and SSH Server, I know the names are not very helpful) and they both work fine. However they can't access my SD card.
Is it possible to get this to work, can this never work, etc.? Various file managers can work with the SD card. I don't understand why the SSH servers don't.
The question behind this question is what's the easiest/fastest way to get a 100 gig of files onto an SD card that a phone or tablet running Marshmallow can access. Without Windows or Mac I don't know of any better way. Why, oh why didn't Android provide a normal plug and play USB interface like you normally get with most devices where you can mount all the drives and act like they're local...
If anybody has ideas on this that would be nice. If not if I can at least access my SD card from an SSH server running on the device I'll be able to pump my files over from my various systems.
Thank you.
Updated: I built the latest libmtp and stable gmtp today and it starts working great but eventually crashes in the middle of transferring a bunch of files. Oddly, it seems to die on the same file each time. I don't have time right now but later I'll check and see if I can prove whether it's after some amount of time/data/whatever or if the file is bad (unlikely). So unless somebody has a better idea how we can get good ole' 1990s USB mass storage working I'm kinda screwed atm.
midnightrider said:
Hi,
I have a stock Galaxy S7 running 6.0.1 with an SD card configured as portable storage. I tried two SSH servers (Ssh Server and SSH Server, I know the names are not very helpful) and they both work fine. However they can't access my SD card.
Is it possible to get this to work, can this never work, etc.? Various file managers can work with the SD card. I don't understand why the SSH servers don't.
The question behind this question is what's the easiest/fastest way to get a 100 gig of files onto an SD card that a phone or tablet running Marshmallow can access. Without Windows or Mac I don't know of any better way. Why, oh why didn't Android provide a normal plug and play USB interface like you normally get with most devices where you can mount all the drives and act like they're local...
If anybody has ideas on this that would be nice. If not if I can at least access my SD card from an SSH server running on the device I'll be able to pump my files over from my various systems.
Thank you.
Updated: I built the latest libmtp and stable gmtp today and it starts working great but eventually crashes in the middle of transferring a bunch of files. Oddly, it seems to die on the same file each time. I don't have time right now but later I'll check and see if I can prove whether it's after some amount of time/data/whatever or if the file is bad (unlikely). So unless somebody has a better idea how we can get good ole' 1990s USB mass storage working I'm kinda screwed atm.
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there is a Galaxy S7 forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7
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there is a Galaxy S7 forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7
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Thanks, but this is a generic Android Marshmallow issue as far as I know.
It appears the SD card filesystem is not world writeable. TotalCommander allows me to change it in the GUI but it doesn't actually get changed. No error or warning messages either.
edit: ok after hours of searching here and on the net this is apparently caused by design in Marshmallow. The permissions on the SD card make it not happening to directly update the card. I think, but I am not sure, there is an API for applications that want to write to the card. Some apps can certainly do it. I found a thread here where a guy figured out a solution if you are rooted. I'm sorry but I accidentally closed the tab (DOH!) and lost the link.
The choices seem to be:
1) ask the dev to fix his app to be able to write on the SD card
2) root your phone and change permissions or change the xml file to deal with it
3) use your SD card as adoptable storage. This only works if you have a really fast/expensive card otherwise your performance will suck hard and you'll be miserable. Lots of other downside to this, probably not worth it.
I have no idea if this is going to be fixed in N. I hope so because it is a huge PITA. And stupid!
I just built the linux fuse support for exfat and am downloading a bunch of doc to the sd card from linux. After I fill up the card I'll test it out and update again. Very easy build, the whole thing was less than 3 minutes. For anybody who wants to try this on a non package managed linux (I use Slackware) see here: https://github.com/relan/exfat

200MB free is considered low on storage?

My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
tsaxda said:
My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it.
the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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Well yeah, 200MB is definitely low on storage. And this message can certainly be annoying but it's not a bug, but a "security" mesure, if you need to take a photo or something, or if an app needs more space to run, it'd be a good thing to have 200MB leftover.
Nowadays apps can take >200Mb just for cache so yeah, it's considered nothing. I personally try to keep at least 1GB free.
Have you checked your storage whether something can be deleted? This is a great app for showing you storage use
You can put in up to a 256 gb SD card, what are you waiting for?
Use internal memory for the OS, programs and downloads (temporarily).
Use the SD card as the data drive.
Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...
galaxys said:
Yeh, Up to 256 gb SD card should work a treat...
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10+ takes up to 1 tb, put a Lexar .5 tb V30 in it for $75. Not too shabby... daul drives are a beautiful thing. Can do a full reload now with no PC and little or no internet connection; completely self contained.
Very cool indeed!
galaxys said:
Very cool indeed!
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The newer generations of Samsung's are capable of very faster read/write times on a fast sd card.
The 10+ shows no lag when using media files off the card. Literally have over 200 albums stored as .wav files there and movies too.
Provides a little bit of a buffer too from malware getting into the data; I've picked off a couple in the downloads folder before they got going including a jpeg. The whole card is backed up on the PC and a 2nd hdd... just in case.
Lol, have an old Dell e6400 laptop I picked up cheap. Just realized 3 weeks ago I could swap out the DVD/CD player for a hot swappable hdd insert tray... $100 latter it now has a 2tb data drive. Split the page file between the two for now, OS and data speeds are a lot better.
You can -never- have too many internal bays on any device, only not enough.
blackhawk said:
Use the SD card as the data drive.
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What do you mean by "set it as the data drive"?
The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.
Android phones have an in-built feature known as Adoptable Storage, which enables users to add an extra layer of storage space for music, pictures, videos, files, and so on.
The interesting thing is that the Adoptable Storage feature allows SD cards to serve as a permanent internal storage medium. This means that everything you save on your phone will be moved to the external storage (SD card) you mounted, and not your phone's internal storage. With SD cards in play, you never have to worry about your phone's storage getting full, and developing lagging problems.
I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.
tsaxda said:
The problem is I factory reset because of being low on storage, & left off a lot of the apps I had before & I'm still every bit as low on storage as I was before if not more. What am I supposed to do when I'm not the one at fault for my phone being low on storage? I would root so I could rip out all of the samsung bloat but A. I can't afford to buy a new phone should something go wrong, & B. I don't think the galaxy On5 has a 1-click root which means having to use a windows computer which I don't have.
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I use 20gb just for apps, caches and a tempory download folder. So if you 16gb of memory yeah I see the issue and had to trim the the tree with S4+ before.
Use this package disabler:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Disable crap you don't need and then use that same app to clear it's data. The app is still there just not running and sucking up memory by adding more via data/cache.
Clear browser cache regularly, limit the phone to two browsers max. Clear data regularly on gmaps if you don't need that data or disable if you don't use it. Police the caches regularly, SD Maid (16mb) does a good job.
As for your music, vids, documents, pics, put all of that on an SD card.
Although you can use the SD card as internal memory as jwoegerbauer points out it's best not to unless you can't avoid it. You may have to though if you can't live without some of those large user installed apps.
I could cut my 10+ down to 14gb internal if I had too... so can you.
There are apps I rarely use. As pointed out already you should have at least 1gb of free space preferably 2gb or more head room.
Sort it out as what you're doing now isn't good Android husbandry.
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I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible.
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Not on your model without root apperantly.
How to adopt SD card as internal storage on Samsung devices?
I recently upgraded to 6.0.1 Marshmallow on my Galaxy S5 and I would like to adopt an SD card as internal storage. However, there is no option to do this. When I format the SD card, there is no "
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It can cause operational issues anyway including crashes. Try to use the KISS (keep it simple studip) principle whenever possible to limit things that can go wrong.
tsaxda said:
I looked it up & from what I can tell it's disabled on my phone (Thanks again Samsung.). So that's not an option. Yet another reason to steer clear of Sammy if at all possible. I remember Google saying when they gave the first presentation on android that they wouldn't allow preinstalled, un-removable, then they did, & still do.
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Whether Adoptable Storage is default feature on a phone or not can easily queried with following ADB command sequence:
Code:
adb devices
adb shell "sm has-adoptable"
If true is returned than phone has this feature.
tsaxda said:
My phone (Samsung Galaxy On5) has over 200 mb of storage free, & it still alerts me daily that I'm running low on storage. If I try to install anything from the play store, even something that's less than a MB in size it displays a popup asking me to uninstall a bunch of apps to make room. I just installed something on another device then transferred it over to this one (saved on SD so It's not taking up any internal space) & tried to sideload it & it still wouldn't install it. Is there a fix? It seems to me like Google has no real interest in fixing major issues with Android that have existed practically since the beginning like devices being "low on storage" while Android is the top mobile OS. Perhaps if something like Pinephone would actually succeed & give Android some competition Google would care & address the issues? /r (By the way, there really should be an '<r> </r>' tag.)
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200mb its nothing storage broh

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