Hi guys.
My Xperia Z3 compact, as every Sony device, was born full of bloatware, like various content markets for apps and multimedia, apps that I will never use, Google Play apps and Sony apps which do the exactly same things, all the Google+ integration (I have not a Google+ account and I don't want it), etc.
Now I'm wondering if it's better to keep all this garbage in a "Garbage" folder on the app drawer and simply ignores it or disable all of them in the App settings menu. I've always chosen to deactivate the garbage in order to avoid updates downloading and save system resources (so battery life), but a friend suggested me to only ignore them cause they don't significatively waste resources and you can't never know exactly if and when a process call another one that if disabled generates loops and instability.
What you think about it?
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I have the same phone too...I put them all in a folder and forgot about them...
after reading this im going to disable them i think
maybe i'll not disable google+ even though i dont use it but i think hangouts needs it
ishaang said:
I have the same phone too...I put them all in a folder and forgot about them...
after reading this im going to disable them i think
maybe i'll not disable google+ even though i dont use it but i think hangouts needs it
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I don't use Hangouts so I've not any problem with the lack of G+.
But you should not take your decision over what I wrote, cause mine was only a question because I've not even the answer. You should wait the answer from someone expert.
Nevertheless, if you try before and after disabling please report your impressions.
Not quite sure, but as long as you're not rooted, I don't think you can do anything drastic.
So everything you can disable should be safe and is that program alone.
I personally disabled almost everything I could on my Xperia Z3. You can't disable system apps and so on as long as you're not rooted. Also I think it's only system apps that works "over" each other. What I mean is when not rooted, disable app A does not in any way affect app B.
That would be another case if rooted and disable system app A which could cause system to crash.
Hi Everyone,
Long time no see, but I'm back with a quick question: I've noticed an unknown (to me) application on my Leagoo T5c running Android 7.0 called "zdemo".
It doesn't appear in my app drawer (I use a launcher called Rootless Pixel that I like a lot, because it's extremely light and easy on the eye), only in the Application list in Parameters, and I've uninstalled it, but I suspect it could have been malware, because all of a sudden, I've started to get unwanted popups in a few application, Blue Mail among them, so I suspect it could come back.
Do any of you know of this app? I Googled it and got nowhere.
It happens to me too. I have another one named media provider or something like that, it has a fake Android logo and it can be desistaled.
Yeah, I managed to uninstall it... Twice, which means it's coming back at more or less regular intervals. I suspect it's a malware, but MalwareBytes didn't find anything wrong on my phone, so I'm a bit stumped.
I suspect those malware were bundled with Rootless Pixel Launcher, because since I've uninstalled it, they're gone and haven't returned...
Zdemo appears in conjunction with System Input Method. I think the former is a trojan and the latter adware. I keep stopping and uninstalling the apps just to have them return. I think the gallery app is the culprit but haven't figured out how to clean it yet because its a system file.
Hi Donna,
Do you own a Leagoo phone too? I've had issues with rotten ROM from that brand before, but I thought that was a thing of the past.
If the Gallery app is indeed the culprit, then there must be a bad picture or video in it that you imported, maybe a cover from a music album you downloaded?
I for one know that all the music on my phone doesn't come from CDs I ripped...
The funny thing is, before I installed those two launchers I mentioned, I had no issues whatsoever. The Rootless Pixel Launcher contacted me via Play Store and defended himself from injecting any bad code into his launcher, and says that CPL Launcher is based on his own Rootless Pixel launcher, so it could be that the repository where the APK is stored has been compromised, and the malware is added to the files before it's made available to the Google Play store, but I can't be sure.
For reasons unknown, my first reply got lost somewhere, and I don't feel like rewriting it word for word. Do you have a Leagoo phone too? If so, which ROM do you have installed on it (mine was released in March 2018)?
I suspect those two malware come bundled with the launchers I mentioned, but the dev for Rootless Pixel launcher assured me his code is clean, and I tend to believe him. I think the repo where his code is stored could have been hacked, but I have no way to prove it, of course.
EDIT: my first reply finally made it to the thread. Sorry for the double post...
UPDATE: I finally did a factory reset, reinstalled all my apps (minus a couple I never used anyway) from the Play Store, put my music back on the device (not my pictures though, because I want to sieve through them first), installed Rootless Pixel Launcher again, and so far, so good, no malware in the applications list.
I'll give it a day or two, just to be on the safe side, then I'll modify my incendiary comment on the Play Store about Rootless Pixel Launcher...
Somebody created this code to bug people, had probably nothing to do uses your ip to track and install his popup window.
If I disconnect my wifi and use my phone without an internet connection zdemo and system input method don't come back. I should try on another wifi or in another country. Wonder if it could be tracked and maybe interesting to see where it leads. Could it be stashed on google play store? It seems curious that there is little info on the web about this problem as if somebody in a key position really f...-up
Yeah, I too find it hard to believe that those two malware aren't better documented on the Web. However, if you scan your device with MalwareBytes and look up the entire name of both, you find ***partial*** references, stating that they aren't "real" malware, just PUPs, which I find intriguing too.
On my phone, I've noted unwanted popups that were hard to close when they were installed, but nothing untoward once I got rid of them, so they're definitely adware, either separately, or working jointly, I don't know.
So, I hate google bloatware and first thing I do, always, is disable all of their apps which are unnecessary to me, and that includes Chrome and Youtube (I prefer to use Opera for both), but lately the apps just show up on my screen without my enabling them.
I have a Huawei P30, if that makes any difference to all and any of you that are willing to help me.
What I want to know is how do i stop it from happening, because going to disable them over and over and over and over again seems pointless.
Thank you!
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So, I hate google bloatware and first thing I do, always, is disable all of their apps which are unnecessary to me, and that includes Chrome and Youtube (I prefer to use Opera for both), but lately the apps just show up on my screen without my enabling them.
I have a Huawei P30, if that makes any difference to all and any of you that are willing to help me.
What I want to know is how do i stop it from happening, because going to disable them over and over and over and over again seems pointless
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You didnt say if you were rooted, and I dont know if you need to be rooted to perform these actions, but have you tried Freezing and/or Hiding the apps?
You may also get better answers in a more general forum/thread such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2259645
For youtube, although its basically the same app without ads, you may also like to try Vanced https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-youtube-vanced-edition-t3758757
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So, I hate google bloatware and first thing I do, always, is disable all of their apps which are unnecessary to me, and that includes Chrome and Youtube (I prefer to use Opera for both), but lately the apps just show up on my screen without my enabling them.
I have a Huawei P30, if that makes any difference to all and any of you that are willing to help me.
What I want to know is how do i stop it from happening, because going to disable them over and over and over and over again seems pointless.
Thank you!
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Had the same problem with youtube on my One Vision. The trick here was to disable Google Partner Setup and youtube isn't enabling itself anymore.
Anyone here use Phone app by Google instead of Samsung's Phone app?
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Anyone here use Phone app by Google instead of Samsung's Phone app?
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I'm not sure what you're trying to get at as there isn't much information in your question, but I will try to help where I can.
If I assume you simply want to REPLACE the default phone dialer, I have a Samsung where I NEVER use the default Google apps and it works just fine WITHOUT those Google apps (I've disabled most of them).
As for the phone app, it gets confusing what people "mean" as things changed since Android 10 in terms of separation of the parts that people often mix together.
Specifically, in later Androids, AFAIK, there is a "Dialer" and a separate "Contacts" app (yet which often are combined) and there is even the concept that the "SMS/MMS" messaging app also can often dial out and use the contacts - but there is no longer a default "Dialer" as of Android 10 (AFAIK).
Me?
I don't keep a contacts file (for privacy reasons) in the default sqlite location (because Google/Facebook/Microsoft/etc. motherships upload that database, that's why!) so I use only {dialer,contacts,sms/mms} apps which can work both with and WITHOUT a default contacts sqlite database).
Note that Simple Mobile Tools has a lot of related privacy-aware free useful apps which don't necessarily need the default sqlite contacts database, which is a boon to your privacy (if you care about such things).
Here is a screenshot of what I use in my dock for phone apps on my Samsung, none of which are the default apps by Samsung or Google.
Thank you for your reply. I am actually looking for a way to record phone calls on phone. Phone by Google is the app I was referring to, as you may know it has a call recorder and I was wondering if anyone were able to enable it on their A32 5G.
There's a lot of information about call recording for this phone in this Galaxy A32 5G thread over here...
Anyone know a working call recorder app for this phone?
There's also a generic thread about call recording issues after May 11th when Google made their most recent changes over here...
Is there any way to get 3rd-party call recording (ACR) apps working after tomorrow, May 11th, 2022?
If you're rooted, you probably have more options though.
Hello ppl. I'm user of xperia xzs but same is related to xz as they are similar models. Reason why i write here and not in "xperia XZs" section is cus forum section is inactive.
Phone is obviously heating too much, throttling, killing apps and android modules, afaik caused by bad snapdragon 820 power management etc. I belive there is ppl that have less of problems with their devices , which addres posible another issue: bad assembly of phones, in sense thermal pad/paste is not set correctly so even slight miss in assembly, bring overheating and other issues in fact that device is not for normal use.. I tried everything software related: downgrading to nougat, trying different firmwares etc, stamina mode, clearing cache/data etc etc, nothing help to bring my device in state: having a normalno decent phone capable of doing light surf. I dont use camera/games. My device is in very good condition, like new, battery work great. Anyone managed to fix problem somehow? Im thinking the last thing to do before trowing this crap to garbage, to dissasamble and try to check thermal pad/paste and somehow reaply. This is my definetly last smartphone from Sony which became a parody company for phones, not to mention their customer service which are some kind of very stupid AI or if not, that 'person' is on chimpanze level.
Best regards
Lol, you never dealt with Samsung tech support...
You need to find the root cause(s) using the tools available. Karma Firewall can help show which apps are accessing the internet excessively.
Battery trackers can be useful. Keep social media apps off the phone. Cloud apps are another potential trouble maker ie Google backup Transport.
Samsung is even worse? Damn, is there any human beings in that corporations..
Thx for respond! I tried app that you attach, it gives me some interesting infos for now. User apps block didnt do nothing so i did block all system apps and started burnout benchmark test which usualy stop working when im in ~2/7 test. I find out that Apps (UID 1000) and Apps (UID 10039) is trying to access internet many times. When i disable that 2 alone, burnout benchmark goes to end 7/7 (56c max) which is great. Then i tried to see which one is problematic, and that is Apps (UID 10039) which make problem and kill e.g. Burnout benchmark test . Any suggestion what to try from this point? Thx again mate!
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Samsung is even worse? Damn, is there any human beings in that corporations..
Thx for respond! I tried app that you attach, it gives me some interesting infos for now. User apps block didnt do nothing so i did block all system apps and started burnout benchmark test which usualy stop working when im in ~2/7 test. I find out that Apps (UID 1000) and Apps (UID 10039) is trying to access internet many times. When i disable that 2 alone, burnout benchmark goes to end 7/7 (56c max) which is great. Then i tried to see which one is problematic, and that is Apps (UID 10039) which make problem and kill e.g. Burnout benchmark test . Any suggestion what to try from this point? Thx again mate!
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You're welcome. I've dealt with Sony before, they are a pain. For hifi equipment Denon is the one you wanted.
Disable Sony, app and carrier feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
You can temporarily disable Google play Services and see if that helps especially at night.
Accubattery is useful for it's charge/discharge history, allows you to track SOT usage easily by the hour %@hr. In time Karma helps you spot odd or unwanted behaviors.
Use this settings mod to globally block ads, it also blocks some blacklisted sites.
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You're welcome. I've dealt with Sony before, they are a pain. For hifi equipment Denon is the one you wanted.
Disable Sony, app and carrier feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
You can temporarily disable Google play Services and see if that helps especially at night.
Accubattery is useful for it's charge/discharge history, allows you to track SOT usage easily by the hour %@hr. In time Karma helps you spot odd or unwanted behaviors.
Use this settings mod to globally block ads, it also blocks some blacklisted sites.
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Can you tell me where to find and disable 'Sony,app and carrier feedback, google firebase" ? Cant find private DNS option, i have android 8, there is no "more connection settings", i can find printing, its in "Device connection" its all. Thx
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Can you tell me where to find and disable 'Sony,app and carrier feedback, google firebase" ? Cant find private DNS option, i have android 8, there is no "more connection settings", i can find printing, its in "Device connection" its all. Thx
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I never used 8, only 4, 5, 9 and 10.
Explore all of settings. Probably there, somewhere. Firebase is at the end of the Google settings in the phone settings.
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I never used 8, only 4, 5, 9 and 10.
Explore all of settings. Probably there, somewhere. Firebase is at the end of the Google settings in the phone settings.
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There is no dns option in oreo but there is 3rd party app for that, i will try. But still cant find Firebase option and carrier feedback dont know what u mean by that and where to find it? In google settings under "services on this device" there is "ads, auto-fill,backup,dev&sharing ....settings for google apps(connected apps play games etc" cant find there. HM
Maybe Oreo doesn't support Firebase, good!
Pie has better security at the cost of some functionality. Oreo is suspectable to the X-helper rootkit, a real nasty worm.
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Maybe Oreo doesn't support Firebase, good!
Pie has better security at the cost of some functionality. Oreo is suspectable to the X-helper rootkit, a real nasty worm.
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I turn on dev options and now i see firebase app indexing which is already disabled. I will try to look at Karma fw and accu battery for that "Apps (UID 10039)" which is main problem. So that gives me hope that it is all software problem. Another problem which is probably imposible to fix is that soc start bad throthling etc when it reach ~56c, if thats only few degree up..
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I turn on dev options and now i see firebase app indexing which is already disabled. I will try to look at Karma fw and accu battery for that "Apps (UID 10039)" which is main problem. So that gives me hope that it is all software problem. Another problem which is probably imposible to fix is that soc start bad throthling etc when it reach ~56c, if thats only few degree up..
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It's almost always software or a firmware problem you can work around.
Yeah but what's the battery temp? That the temperature I watch. At 102-3F I turn it off.
Not sure what that UID is.
The app, UID Lookup for Android might be helpful, I haven't tried it yet.
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It's almost always software or a firmware problem you can work around.
Yeah but what's the battery temp? That the temperature I watch. At 102-3F I turn it off.
Not sure what that UID is.
The app, UID Lookup for Android might be helpful, I haven't tried it yet.
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First of all thank you very much you helped me a lot... you show me the way a posible full-fix for my device! That app UID lookup is not working for me. What i find out is that UID 10039 = com.android.vending aka google play. I unistalled it via adb shell and then run benchmark test and it went all to the end 7/7. Later i installed latest google play apk and after that, benchmark start crashing again and phone overheats. Last thing i did is to DISABLE avg protection and now benchmark run to end 7/7. Avg is present in every xzs firmware by default, if thats reason why device behave this way then ...
ps playstore app crash again randomly during normal use of phone without using playstore. Something with playstore modules are maybe wrong hm...
Goggle Play or Google Play Store, a known trouble maker?
To optimize a stock device you need to play with it until you understand why (cause and effect) it's behaving the way it is. It takes some time, but after which it becomes almost second nature.
No coding skills needed as there's lots of ways to work within the UI framework including 3rd party apps like Package Disabler for non-Samsung devices but I've never used that version. That's my main means of debloating my Samsung's. PM if you want the link to the website, not on Playstore.
My brain is now throttling badly and temp is rising!!
Case 1: In Karma FW > disable AVG, disable google play store, enable Apps (UID 10039) = Benchmark go 100%
Case 2: enable avg, disable google play store, enable Apps (UID 10039) = Benchmark crash at 2/7
Case 3: enable avg, enable google play store, disable Apps (UID 10039) = Benchmark go 100%
So there is some rule in relation to avg-google play store-Apps(UID 100039) and i dont have a clue how they are interconnected, im only 100% sure in coherence with benchmark failing/finishing. I'm not smart..
One thing come to my mind right now, mighty sony support and how banal they are: did you reset your device? And similar anti-brain suggestions. HAHAH
Clear system cache.
I always disable location unless needed.
Try running the bench with internet disabled.
Try firewall blocking Playstore, I normally do.
Playstore, another good reason to hate it
Tried everything posible i think of, even unistalling chrome (so to enable default android webview), tried different ver of play store (even disabled it true adb). Nothing gives me hope except blocking Apps (UID 10039). I uploaded latest log of blocked uid while successfully running benchmark. I now understand less and less and have no idea what to do next. Is this Sony way to force us to buy a new phone? If so they definetly force me to buy another manufacturer phone.
Lol, this N10+ was a hot running, lagging battery hog at first. It took a lot time to optimize it. Turned out so good I got a second one.
Dependencies, sometimes it's another app or service causing the drain that's not being correctly reported. Or there's a conflict that creates constant, excessive polling. Trial and error to find them. Add tools that help you to do that... it takes some effort and thought.
Like I said I normally package disable and firewall block Playstore. It's a menace in more ways than one and eats some battery too. Google play Services is normally disabled unless I need it, which is once or twice a day usually. Modify notifications so it doesn't complain endlessly as it will when disabled. Turning off Google play Services and Google Backup Transport is not enough to fully disable it as it may still run in the background at night even.
My N10+ misreports as Google play Services I believe it is... instead Backup must be package disabled to kill it completely.
Your device may behave differently so this is an example of how cryptic this can get. Keep chipping anyway at it until you find the trouble makers and the solutions.
Make sure global power management is disabled or it will cause erratic behavior even more battery consumption.
Developer options>standby apps, all app buckets should show as active otherwise global power management is active! It can't be turned off here though. It's under battery management. In setting under individual apps you can limit data and background battery usage without effecting the global settings, sometimes this gets it.
This is what I'm talking about per Samsung. Sony will have something similar as the global power management/buckets thing is a Google Android apk that manufacturers modify for their flavor. The core functionality though still exists and will likely cause problems when enabled. Its not needed and complicates optimization.
Tried your instructions, it was not easy as i use different manufacturer with oreo and much less options then yours but i got everythink right i think. I found program called "Net blocker" and then go with trial&error to find that real cause of issue and thats 2 modules with same uid no (10039 remember) that karma didnt show me. Now my phone work stable, i can even use google play store. Only related apps like youtube dont work with this 2 modules blocked. Im still not 100% satisfied, i want to come to real solution so if i give my phone to someone, that person dont have to mess around like i did, e.g. after hard reset everything needs to be set with advance knowledge you know..
Here is pic of that 2 modules. Tell me if you know why they making so much problems to whole system and is there a way to fix. Btw Net blocker didnt give me option to disable just 1 of that 2 modules, both of them is selected at same time. Cheers mate and thanx again !
Try clearing cache and data (if possible).
This how mine looks:
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Try clearing cache and data (if possible).
This how mine looks:
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Hey mate. Tried clearing cache and data, guess what .. random crashes again non stop. So now im 100% sure root of problem is Google services framework. If i disable it, everything works fine except related apps(youtube etc etc) and if its enabled, i have to block in firewall. Clearing cache/data/restart/hard resent dont help my device, i tried different firmwares, its always the same. There is some incompatability with xz/s firmwares and that services framework.. i imagine fix is posible and easy but no1 cares.
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Hey mate. Tried clearing cache and data, guess what .. random crashes again non stop. So now im 100% sure root of problem is Google services framework. If i disable it, everything works fine except related apps(youtube etc etc) and if its enabled, i have to block in firewall. Clearing cache/data/restart/hard resent dont help my device, i tried different firmwares, its always the same. There is some incompatability with xz/s firmwares and that services framework.. i imagine fix is posible and easy but no1 cares.
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Sorry...
I always keep Framework disabled. Forgot about it, lol maybe that's why Playstore can't connect It was constantly draining power even at night.
Bah-ha-ha-ha I had forgotten about it and had been ignoring Playstore, Thanks for reminding me. tff
I may experiment with Framework again but it always ended up being a battery drain that was rarely needed unless I went to Playstore. I knew it was something simple
Damn, you're good.
So you see how giving the phone to someone that isn't willing to take any interest in the system what will happen.