The Google Pixel's Auto HDR+ camera app was recently ported to SD820 and SD821 devices, but when I try to install it on my Xperia XZ on stock firmware, Android 7.1.1, version .35, the app crashes on launch. Can anybody provide me with a link to a working APK, or is our phone just not capable of using it?
Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work
chrispearson said:
Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work
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Thanks, I didn't know that. Is there anyway to reduce the noise and artefacts in the photos, then? (without rooting the device or installing a custom ROM)
Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.
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Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.
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Thanks! I'll read some more about the manual mode. Does that mean I have to adjust the manual settings, or can I leave everything in auto?
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks for all your information! I just got this phone and I'm learning so much about it already thanks to XDA.
propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks again! I have another question relating to the camera. It goes as follows:
The Xperia XZ1 (with 8.0 Oreo) has a much better camera than the XZ Premium (with Android 7.1 Nougat), even though they have the exact same camera hardware, the XZP has much more oversharpening (and other issues that the regular XZ has), but the XZ1 seems to have much better software processing. My question is, therefore, that: Does that mean the XZ's camera will get much better as well, once the Android 8.0 update arrives?
Here is my source: https://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-xz1-camera
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
propov said:
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Thanks again!!
propov said:
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Another question: Should I leave Smart Cleaner (the Sony tool in the "Storage & Memory" section of the settings app) on? Some people say it reduces performance, but Sony claims it optimises it. What do you think and what would you do?
I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.
JR5968 said:
I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.
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Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
As I remember it was Google Pixel camera with HDR +
Something like version 5.0 ( not sure if it was renamed)
Btw I'm on Oreo
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Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?
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Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.
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Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.
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Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad
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Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad
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The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?
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The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Exactly the same as on Nougat—no RAW support. That's too bad. Thanks for trying!
It is boring to always use the auto mode in camera so let's try the manual mode and have greater quality pictures, which is better than auto mode.
What is manual mode ?
Manual mode is one of the main settings on your camera, and it lets you manually control shutter speed, white balance, manual focus, and ISO in most. These three settings work together to control the how bright or dark your photo is (known as exposure), as well as change the overall look of the image.
What is ISO ?
In photography ISO measures the sensitivity of the image sensor. The same principles apply as in film photography – the lower the number the less sensitive your camera is to light and the finer the grain. Higher ISO settings are generally used in darker situations to get faster shutter speeds.
What is Shutter Speed ?
In photography, shutter speed or exposure time is the length of time when the film or digital sensor inside the camera is exposed to light, also when a camera's shutter is open when taking a photograph. The amount of light that reaches the film or image sensor is proportional to the exposure time.
What is White balancing ?
White balancing is a process in which a camera will attempt to detect the type of white light largely visible in different environments. This is typically utilized to account for different light sources (fluorescent, incandescent, etc.), as well as different weather types and times of day (overcast, sunny, sunset, etc.). White balance generally focuses on collecting the proper temperature of white light in a scene, which ranges from cold (blue-tinted) to warm (orange or gold-tinted).
This is one setting that is often best left on automatic settings, unless the viewfinder suggests that the automatic white balance is obviously wrong. Of note, RAW images will have to be manually white balanced in post-processing, as RAW shooting will not modify the white balance in-camera.
What is Manual Focus ?
Manual focus controls are a more recent and much-appreciated addition to the control suite of manual smartphone photographers. Most camera apps features a simple and intuitive circular slider which can be used to accurately set focus manually in lieu of the jumpier and imperfect auto-focus, something which is often exaggerated when trying to take photos of close subjects. If you want to take a closer pic of something very near try macro focus.
What is Manual exposure ?
manual exposure is a small supplement to ISO and shutter speed settings, and it is one of the rarer manual settings one will find in smartphone camera applications. If a combination of shutter speed and ISO produce an unsatisfying image, manual exposure is often offered as a way of tweaking the brightness of an image in-camera. It can quite easily be replaced by simply modifying brightness after taking the photo, but it can sometimes be more efficient to get the image right the first time.
What do we have in our Lenovo P2 :
I had Camera api2 activated and snap camera hdr+ and oneplus 5 camera apps.
Shutter speed
Minimum 0.68s maximum 1/96423s
ISO
Minimum 100 Maximum 19200
Verdict approximate values
In low light condition
Higher ISO [ 500 ~ 19200 aprx] + Higher shutter speed [0.68 ~ 1/200 aprx]
In heavy light condition
Lower ISO [below 500 aprx] + Lower shutter speed [1/200s ~ 1/96423s aprx]
Camera Api2 advantages
Raw image capture support
In depth manual mode control
Enable camera api2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/themes/flashable-zip-activating-camera-api2-t3724207
Which app is best for manual mode?
? Snap camera HDR
https://www.google.co.in/search?q=Snap+camera+HDR+paid+apk&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=bXs-WuDaI4HEvQSYyLWQDQ [Google search result page, Cuz many getting confused about this app]
? Oneplus 5 camera
Download link https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/themes/stable-oneplus-5-camera-t3709983
? Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC
? Camera FV 5
Reserved [for samples]
I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
Liacon said:
I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
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It's like this with all the camera apps that have avaible the raw format
At first I was thinking that the problem it's present because I usa a micro sd, but the image gets mad even without it.
I'm on the last lineage build by Higway Star
Liacon said:
It's like this with all the camera apps that have avaible the raw format
At first I was thinking that the problem it's present because I usa a micro sd, but the image gets mad even without it.
I'm on the last lineage build by Higway Star
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Only the bug in camera driver can make mess like this.
Wonder Wicked Witch said:
Only the bug in camera driver can make mess like this.
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So it's a rom's related problem?
Liacon said:
So it's a rom's related problem?
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Same issue on stock s244, with every app.
Also, I've seen many others
Liacon said:
So it's a rom's related problem?
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icsdia said:
Same issue on stock s244, with every app.
Also, I've seen many others
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Maybe due to changing roms in mobiles the camera driver can get into buggy, not confirmed yet.
If you want Camera with Raw capture try "snap camera HDR" with force HAL1 enabled in-app setting.
If you looking for completely manual configuration try camera api2 ON in-app setting.
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I can't find force hal1, sucks.
At least the manual controls it's a very sweet thing
Liacon said:
I can't find force hal1, sucks.
At least the manual controls it's a very sweet thing
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Did you check it out properly? It is in-built in app itself.
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Did you check it out properly? It is in-built in app itself.
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I have check the same option that you show in your screen shot, but maybe it's because I have the trial version
Liacon said:
I can't use the RAW format, the scrren get mad and the camera crash, am i the only one with this problem?
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Same problem here.
Liacon said:
I have check the same option that you show in your screen shot, but maybe it's because I have the trial version
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Maybe you can get it for free if you Google it.
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Same problem here.
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With camera api2 raw fails as it is not supported in P2 right now. But without camera api2 or with Hal1 enabled you can capture raw image in DNG format.
Hi all, you might know this already but I just found out and it seems like absolutely great news for this phone. The latest Open Camera update allows you to record video using every camera on the phone. Even the monochrome one works. No need to have perfect lighting conditions in order for the camera to switch between main and telephoto. You now have a dedicated camera button which lets you select what lens to use. Did you get the chance to try it out? I didn't have any issues yet.
Link please
Here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Is the recording quality improved?
I'm not sure. You do have to option to record with maximum 80Mbps but I I find it hard to tell if that is any different from the 30Mbps standard rate. Video looks crisp and clear, colors are very good, especially if you lock the white balance.
Quality seems not as good.. Also can not use Camera API 2, for high res to get extra control in manual mode.
I'm not sure why you can't use camera2 api. For me it works and I can select iso and exposure during filming. I have a CLT L29.
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I'm not sure why you can't use camera2 api. For me it works and I can select iso and exposure during filming. I have a CLT L29.
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whats your max resolution for recording video using Camera2 API?
For the 40mp lens and the telephoto lens, I have 3840x2160. The monochrome camera however has a resolution of 3264x1840 for video.
Sorry for necropost, but anyone tried open camera for B&W photos? Does it allow exposure bracketing? Raw or at least png for file saving? I would like to try p20 pro just for that monochrome lens...
You can save RAW with the B&W camera but for some reason the pictures appear purple.