I stopped rooting my phones for some time. So I'm not really sure on how things work now. I'll be receiving my 8T(KB2001) tomorrow. I just want to unlock the bootloader before setting up the device so that I can just flash the official twrp(when it comes) without clearing data. I just want to know if the device passes safetynet till I flash twrp and magisk? I use Google pay and other bank apps regularly so it's important for me. Also, generally how long does it take for an unofficial/official stable twrp to be available?
Tl;dr - Can I use Google pay with unlocked bootloader without magisk?
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KrishTej said:
I stopped rooting my phones for some time. So I'm not really sure on how things work now. I'll be receiving my 8T(KB2001) tomorrow. I just want to unlock the bootloader before setting up the device so that I can just flash the official twrp(when it comes) without clearing data. I just want to know if the device passes safetynet till I flash twrp and magisk? I use Google pay and other bank apps regularly so it's important for me. Also, generally how long does it take for an unofficial/official stable twrp to be available?
Tl;dr - Can I use Google pay with unlocked bootloader without magisk?
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About Google Pay, I think you can use Google pay on unlocked bootloader without Magisk, But with Magisk installed and MagiskHide enabled you can definitely use Google Pay without any problem. I have used Google Pay with magisk. And Once i forgot to add Google Pay into magiskhide list but able to use without any problem. So dont worry about GPay.
But there is big catch for other banking apps, they will detect unlocked bootloader and refuse to run which can be bypass 100% using MagiskHide. Been using phonepe, paytm , and other official banking apps ( upi too ) without any problem. ( AFAIK had trouble with Sbi pay only) All others are working fine.
Device will pass safetynet once you enable MagiskHide after installing Magsik Canary. ( by default its off , you need to turn on manually after first run) And new magisk supports with Different App name so apps can not detect Magisk as app.
But biggest disadvantage of unlocking bootloader on Oneplus device is you will lose widevine level 1, it will set to L3 instead of L1 if you unlock bootloader, So basically you will lose HD in netflix,prime and other streaming apps which uses widevine. ( No effect on local hd playing using file,or youtube)
Best luck
It will not pass safety net. I checked that just now before enabling magisk hide and renaming the app. Google Pay will not work with the unlocked bootloader, even without having the magisk manager app installed. Samsung Pay worked fine on my watch with only the bootloader unlocked.
I can also confirm this. I had unlocked the bootloader the day I got my 8T and was surprised to see Google Pay not working. It started working fine after I rooted and hide it in Magisk.
rohanhole said:
About Google Pay, I think you can use Google pay on unlocked bootloader without Magisk, But with Magisk installed and MagiskHide enabled you can definitely use Google Pay without any problem. I have used Google Pay with magisk. And Once i forgot to add Google Pay into magiskhide list but able to use without any problem. So dont worry about GPay.
But there is big catch for other banking apps, they will detect unlocked bootloader and refuse to run which can be bypass 100% using MagiskHide. Been using phonepe, paytm , and other official banking apps ( upi too ) without any problem. ( AFAIK had trouble with Sbi pay only) All others are working fine.
Device will pass safetynet once you enable MagiskHide after installing Magsik Canary. ( by default its off , you need to turn on manually after first run) And new magisk supports with Different App name so apps can not detect Magisk as app.
But biggest disadvantage of unlocking bootloader on Oneplus device is you will lose widevine level 1, it will set to L3 instead of L1 if you unlock bootloader, So basically you will lose HD in netflix,prime and other streaming apps which uses widevine. ( No effect on local hd playing using file,or youtube)
Best luck
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I know I'll lose widevine L1 but I really don't care about that. I also know that I can use Magiskhide to keep them working but I just wanted to wait till the twrp is available. I was just wondering if I can manage without Magiskhide for some time. But looks like I have root now for them. Thanks for the reply :good:
RLD831 said:
It will not pass safety net. I checked that just now before enabling magisk hide and renaming the app. Google Pay will not work with the unlocked bootloader, even without having the magisk manager app installed. Samsung Pay worked fine on my watch with only the bootloader unlocked.
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deepuvijay said:
I can also confirm this. I had unlocked the bootloader the day I got my 8T and was surprised to see Google Pay not working. It started working fine after I rooted and hide it in Magisk.
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Ahh that sucks! Thanks for confirming btw.
I am passing safetynet with magisk root on US KB2005 11.0.1.2KB05AA. I can open Pay without any issues but have not fully set it up yet. If I recall on my last HTC with Root it threw an error immediately when opening. I will give it a shot later today.
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I am passing safetynet with magisk root on US KB2005 11.0.1.2KB05AA. I can open Pay without any issues but have not fully set it up yet. If I recall on my last HTC with Root it threw an error immediately when opening. I will give it a shot later today.
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Same, except I have fully set up Google Pay with my accounts and the app opens up and everything seems to be okay. I have not actually attempted to pay using it yet however.
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Subject is self-explanatory. I have a Pixel and I'm 100% stock because I have apps that check for unlocked bootloader and for root and disable themselves if found (I'm not only talking about Android Pay or Pokémon Go, but also Good Mobile [recently renamed BlackBerry Work], which I use for work) and I remember the suhide method didn't work on our phones last time I checked. Could this work?
You need an unlocked bootloader to flash a new kernel so if the apps you want to use check the bootloader, you're SOL.
I've searched around but all i've come up with are some fastboot commands that didn't work. I recently upgraded to nougat using an ruu from the collections post. It unrooted my phone but I still have s-off and an unlocked bootloader. I think this is why it still isn't passing the security check? Anyone else had success with this?
I use Magisk for root and (recently) the HTC 10 SafetyNet module and I can use Android Pay fine. As far as I know Magisk Hide tells SafetyNet the bootloader is locked and everything else is OK. So I would recommend you go whole hog and put TWRP and Magisk on and you should be fine until SafetyNet gets updated again.
I'll even give you links.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/how-to/magisk-htc-10-safetynet-fix-custom-rom-t3626893
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Worked like a charm! I had tried magisk before but the hide didn't work. Same this time, but with the safety net fix it's perfect!
When I got my OP6, I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my OnePlus 6 when it was running 5.1.9. However, SafetyNet Check would randomly sometimes pass and sometimes fail for a while, after settling on failing. I was and still am unable to use google pay or install netflix. Other apps could also detect I was rooted and would not run despite me hiding root from them using magisk hide.
I recently upgraded my phone to 5.1.11 using the OTA update. This removed root, so I assumed these would start working again after the update, but they still do not. Various apps still think I am rooted and do not run.
Does anybody have any insight about what can be the cause of this, or how I can get SafetyNet Check to pass? I don't even care about root, I just want to be able to use google pay
Have you tried locking the bootloader again? Often times, an unlocked bootloader will simply cause a fail for Safetynet. Again, not 100% sure this'll work, but it's worth a shot.
Your bootloader is unlocked check your bootloader if bootloader is locked then you need to wipe your data most of devices need to be wiped after you unroot your device.
easy fix and all you need to do is clear the playstore data so that it gets a fresh start and then reboot and check the google play store settings and see if its ceritfied again.
quantumcity said:
When I got my OP6, I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my OnePlus 6 when it was running 5.1.9. However, SafetyNet Check would randomly sometimes pass and sometimes fail for a while, after settling on failing. I was and still am unable to use google pay or install netflix. Other apps could also detect I was rooted and would not run despite me hiding root from them using magisk hide.
I recently upgraded my phone to 5.1.11 using the OTA update. This removed root, so I assumed these would start working again after the update, but they still do not. Various apps still think I am rooted and do not run.
Does anybody have any insight about what can be the cause of this, or how I can get SafetyNet Check to pass? I don't even care about root, I just want to be able to use google pay
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Google pay will work if you re-lock your bootloader. Not sure about Netflix as I don't use it on my mobile.
Edit: as for insight into why, it's a security thing. When you unlock your bootloader you compromise the security of your device so certain things won't work by design.
People need to stop suggesting to lock the bootloader. It's not needed! I have an unlocked bootloader and everything works fine. You need to install magisk and clear play store data like I told you in the second thread you created.
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yldlj said:
People need to stop suggesting to lock the bootloader. It's not needed! I have an unlocked bootloader and everything works fine. You need to install magisk and clear play store data like I told you in the second thread you created.
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While you do not need to lock the bootloader to use Netflix, you do need to lock it for HD playback. Netflix uses Widevine DRM and you need Widevine L1 for HD playback. If your bootloader is unlocked you only have Widevine L3. L3 will still allow you to view Netflix content, but you won't get 720p and up without L1. You can use the "DRM Info" app from the Play Store to confirm your Widevine level and use the "Test Patterns" videos inside Netflix to confirm what your max resolution and framerate are.
TuxRuffian said:
While you do not need to lock the bootloader to use Netflix, you do need to lock it for HD playback. Netflix uses Widevine DRM and you need Widevine L1 for HD playback. If your bootloader is unlocked you only have Widevine L3. L3 will still allow you to view Netflix content, but you won't get 720p and up without L1. You can use the "DRM Info" app from the Play Store to confirm your Widevine level and use the "Test Patterns" videos inside Netflix to confirm what your max resolution and framerate are.
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Yes but that is NOT the OP problem.
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yldlj said:
People need to stop suggesting to lock the bootloader. It's not needed! I have an unlocked bootloader and everything works fine. You need to install magisk and clear play store data like I told you in the second thread you created.
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As said there are only two solutions, either go entirely locked and stock(ed) or do what yldlj said. It actually quite simple people.
If you unlock your bootloader, you HAVE root with Magisk and make sure you hide root for all mobile payment apps. Just having an unlocked bootloader WILL FAIL SAFETYNET CHECKS. So you either lock your bottle or unlock it and root.
The Netflix thing is if you unlock you won't be certified in the play store so you won't see Netflix to install it. If you download the apk you can install it and is it without root but your widevine security is L3 and can only playback a Mac resolution of 480p. You will have to have a locked bootloader to to playback anything 720p, 1080p and 1440p
Eric214 said:
If you unlock your bootloader, you HAVE root with Magisk and make sure you hide root for all mobile payment apps. Just having an unlocked bootloader WILL FAIL SAFETYNET CHECKS. So you either lock your bottle or unlock it and root.
The Netflix thing is if you unlock you won't be certified in the play store so you won't see Netflix to install it. If you download the apk you can install it and is it without root but your widevine security is L3 and can only playback a Mac resolution of 480p. You will have to have a locked bootloader to to playback anything 720p, 1080p and 1440p
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My bootloader is unlocked and I am not using magisk to hide anything yes I am still certified in Google Play and Netflix is showing up to download. Make sure you are in a country that supports Netflix. Netflix is not available in every country. Also my Magisk is passing safety net checks with the unlocked bootloader
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My bootloader is unlocked and I am not using magisk to hide anything yes I am still certified in Google Play and Netflix is showing up to download. Make sure you are in a country that supports Netflix. Netflix is not available in every country. Also my Magisk is passing safety net checks with the unlocked bootloader
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Maybe something changed because it was that way but it's still the same deal for the widevine security that you cant be unlocked and be level 1 (L1) that you can't change with root or hiding anything.
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My bootloader is unlocked and I am not using magisk to hide anything yes I am still certified in Google Play and Netflix is showing up to download. Make sure you are in a country that supports Netflix. Netflix is not available in every country. Also my Magisk is passing safety net checks with the unlocked bootloader
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You might not be hiding those specific apps but the magisk hide toggle will be enabled which is enough. So yes you are using magisk hide. anyway the OP hasn't even been replying so yes either fixed the issue it doesn't care anymore.
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So, If I install another ROM can I still pay with NFC or its the to same with others phones that if you unlock the bootloader this function stops to work?
Antonio ALex said:
So, If I install another ROM can I still pay with NFC or its the to same with others phones that if you unlock the bootloader this function stops to work?
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Maybe and maybe not. Look here as example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4267263/post-85119503
This question is relate to SafetyNet. If you can pass SafetyNet, you can have working NFC.
Pass SafetyNet on xiaomi.eu ROM
NOTE: These steps may no longer be necessary on latest xiaomi.eu builds. Check for SafetyNet status first (preferably with an app other than Magisk Manager). While the xiaomi.eu ROM for the X3 Pro is patched against bootloader status detection...
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unlock the bootloader is not a problem like root but I don't Know what about another roms
pl1992aw said:
Maybe and maybe not. Look here as example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4267263/post-85119503
This question is relate to SafetyNet. If you can pass SafetyNet, you can have working NFC.
Pass SafetyNet on xiaomi.eu ROM
NOTE: These steps may no longer be necessary on latest xiaomi.eu builds. Check for SafetyNet status first (preferably with an app other than Magisk Manager). While the xiaomi.eu ROM for the X3 Pro is patched against bootloader status detection...
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In all the comments no one knows if its works or not, may differ to one to another. I want to flash DotOS but Google Pay is essential and I want to be sure its works, sad!
astronomy2021 said:
unlock the bootloader is not a problem like root but I don't Know what about another roms
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well, I want flash another ROM but Google Pay its annoying about security and when you unlock the bootloader its kind stops to work.
Antonio ALex said:
well, I want flash another ROM but Google Pay its annoying about security and when you unlock the bootloader its kind stops to work.
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You can relock bootloader with proper MIUI.
But even with unmodified MIUI, or even if you didn't unlock bootloader, you can still have faulty NFC. So you can't make sure, only try and error.
Life is just like this.
Not sure if it's possible to re-lock the Bootloader without loosing all data.
As more and more apps stopped working with some 'security warning' and finding it more and more difficult to run certain banking and other applications I decided to 'unroot' my Poco F2 Pro.
But, too bad, some Apps still complain about 'security issues' or explicitly about the unlocked bootloader - but now there is no MAGISK Hide or similar to 'cheat the system'
But, even worse, according to many posts in various forums locking the BL will erase all data.
Any idea if it's possible?
Thanks!
Tiemichael said:
Not sure if it's possible to re-lock the Bootloader without loosing all data.
As more and more apps stopped working with some 'security warning' and finding it more and more difficult to run certain banking and other applications I decided to 'unroot' my Poco F2 Pro.
But, too bad, some Apps still complain about 'security issues' or explicitly about the unlocked bootloader - but now there is no MAGISK Hide or similar to 'cheat the system'
But, even worse, according to many posts in various forums locking the BL will erase all data.
Any idea if it's possible?
Thanks!
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Not possible.
Install a Xiaomi EU rom Certified play store without root.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/
Thanks!
I just saw a post saying it's possible here ... but I don't want to risk loosing my data
Tiemichael said:
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I just saw a post saying it's possible here ... but I don't want to risk loosing my data
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Unroot the phone before flashing rom.
Phone is unrooted and updated with latest Stock, so I want to re-lock the BL.
As too many apps fail working with Magisk installed, and it's a constant search for work-arounds, I decided to stay unrooted. But many apps still fail because of the unlocked BL
Tiemichael said:
Phone is unrooted and updated with latest Stock, so I want to re-lock the BL.
As too many apps fail working with Magisk installed, and it's a constant search for work-arounds, I decided to stay unrooted. But many apps still fail because of the unlocked BL
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That's why https://xiaomi.eu/community/
Sorry, I am lost ...
what's so special about https://xiaomi.eu/community/? How will it help me?
Tiemichael said:
Sorry, I am lost ...
what's so special about https://xiaomi.eu/community/? How will it help me?
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You can flash without losing data(use update scrip in the zip rom or twrp) and have a working phone(certified) without locking the bootloader and these roms are better than stock(choice between android 11 or 12).
Got it! Thanks!
Tiemichael said:
Not sure if it's possible to re-lock the Bootloader without loosing all data.
As more and more apps stopped working with some 'security warning' and finding it more and more difficult to run certain banking and other applications I decided to 'unroot' my Poco F2 Pro.
But, too bad, some Apps still complain about 'security issues' or explicitly about the unlocked bootloader - but now there is no MAGISK Hide or similar to 'cheat the system'
But, even worse, according to many posts in various forums locking the BL will erase all data.
Any idea if it's possible?
Thanks!
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This thread will tell you how to set up Magisk to keep the security conscious apps happy.
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No it's not possible to re-lock the bootloader without losing your data.
Installing a Xiaomi.eu ROM will still have things complain about an unlocked bootloader, so isn't much of a solution.
try use latest Magisk (24.3) activate zygisk and set deny list all apps that cause problem..
plus install module safetynet-fix 2.2.1 ..