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Hoping someone might be able to help me here..
Within an hour of being taking off the charger (and confirming it was 100% at that time) my battery life is down to 80%.
What's happened so far is:
1) alarm went off (set to ring only - no vibrate)
2) recieved 2 emails on yahoo (set to check every 60 mins)
3) received 1 push email through exchange/active sync
4) 1 calendar appt reminder.
The screen has probably only come on 3 times for no more than 10 seconds each time. My brightness is set to the 2nd lowest level possible. My ringer is on the highest.
Here are the apps I have installed. I have not "launched" any of these today.
.net 3.5
Easy Shares
Google Maps
Microsoft My Phone - (set to sync once at 3am & was on charger then)
Mobil manager for netflix
S2U2
Waze (another GPS app)
Phone is about 4 weeks old.
download HD Tweak and set up data disconnect after to 1 minute. I am almost positive your data is staying on after downloading email because i had the same problem with my Touch Pro. Keeping the data session open is a huge battery drain
My battery life is terrible too! I charge it fully throughout the night and the phone typically dies by the time I get home from work at 6PM or so. I barely use it at work. Never talk on it. The occasional text message. But by the end of the day the phones dead. I have no idea why. I know for some odd reason by phone will not automatically go into sleep mode. It should, but doesn't. Not sure if that kills the battery even though I manually push the sleep mode button each time.
I set up the HD Tweak software. We'll see if this helps. Does it work for the Touch Pro 2 also?
Any of you guys using a case with a magnet on it by any chance?
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ade333 said:
Hoping someone might be able to help me here..
Within an hour of being taking off the charger (and confirming it was 100% at that time) my battery life is down to 80%.
What's happened so far is:
1) alarm went off (set to ring only - no vibrate)
2) recieved 2 emails on yahoo (set to check every 60 mins)
3) received 1 push email through exchange/active sync
4) 1 calendar appt reminder.
The screen has probably only come on 3 times for no more than 10 seconds each time. My brightness is set to the 2nd lowest level possible. My ringer is on the highest.
Here are the apps I have installed. I have not "launched" any of these today.
.net 3.5
Easy Shares
Google Maps
Microsoft My Phone - (set to sync once at 3am & was on charger then)
Mobil manager for netflix
S2U2
Waze (another GPS app)
Phone is about 4 weeks old.
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Just curious, did you charge the phone while it was on? If so, I've found it a problem. I once charged my phone while it was on, and I took it off after about 2 hours (the green LED indicator probably showed up an hour before I took it off). I checked the battery meter and it registered at 89%! I found out that there's a flaw in the way the found charges. Once the LED turns green for a full charge, the charger cuts off, but (I think what I'm about to say might be true) the phone thinks it's running something as it charges, thus causing the rapid battery drop.
Since then, I stopped charging my phone while it was on. I now turn off the phone and then charge it. I can last a whole day with about 45 minutes total on the Internet, and my battery would go to about 60+%.
However, as jaas666 pointed out, are you putting your phone near a magnet? The magnet tricks the phone into thinking the stylus/keyboard is being pulled out, thus causing it to wake up, which will drain your battery.
Have you tried a task manager to see if a program is running when it's not supposed to?
http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm
I had terrible battery life and found two issues. One program was always taking up around 10% CPU usage (VZO video chat software). Also found that Google Sync, set up through ActiveSync, was having trouble. I'd open ActiveSync and find it in a synching loop. For me the solution was to untick "Tasks" in the sync menu. Since then, battery life has been great.
Aspesi4 said:
My battery life is terrible too! I charge it fully throughout the night and the phone typically dies by the time I get home from work at 6PM or so. I barely use it at work. Never talk on it. The occasional text message. But by the end of the day the phones dead. I have no idea why. I know for some odd reason by phone will not automatically go into sleep mode. It should, but doesn't. Not sure if that kills the battery even though I manually push the sleep mode button each time.
I set up the HD Tweak software. We'll see if this helps. Does it work for the Touch Pro 2 also?
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HD Tweak works fine on mine, I've also heard of some people using Diamond Tweak. I mostly text all day maybe some internet but I have gone a day and a half without charging and even then my battery had only gotten to ~20% so I think with a few changes it could be fixed. I'd check out some of the Tweaks threads here and at PPCgeeks for registry edits u can do to save the battery too
I had those issues with my 2000mAh battery on my sprint tp1. With my verizon tp2 my battery life is fantastic. I use the crap out of it all day also. Was wondering if the bad battery life is happening mostly with sprint users.
I have my active sync connected at all times for wireless email calendar task syncing. I charge with the phone on all nite long and the battery drains only slowly throughout the day. Less than 50% today. It is on 24/7 I never shut it down unless I'm soft resetting due to a file or app install. I use my ms3.5 task manager to keep stuff closed after using. I always put it to sleep mode by the button when I'm done with it. My screen is set to brightest and stays on 2 min. before sleep mode engages unless I manually do it.
I'm sorry to hear your battery issues, my tp1 with sprint was really hard on battery juice. I found it would struggle to find a signal alot, one reason I switched to vzw.
Hope you figure it out.
Sad to say that my less than 4 days old Sprint TP2 is disappointing to say the least in battery life and all around usability. Now i'm coming from a Treo Pro and so used to one handed operations and such. But i digress...
Battery life on this beast is sad, really sad. Someone alluded to Gmail Exchange ActiveSync as a potential battery drain so i might look into that. Basically i'm gonna hard rest and start from scratch applying less tweaks. Basically i find TF3D tedious really..takes too many steps just to do some basic things. I turned it off and managed better a bit but i just might go back to my Treo Pro and sell this thing..
My battery "appears" to drop quickly, but actually hangs in there quite nicely. My old phone only showed me 20% increments, so going to 1% makes it very noticable.
I ran cleanup first thing, then went back and customized.
I use Activesync in push mode (7 days per week 8am - 9pm), have it checking Hotmail, stocks, weather every 30 minutes. BT is on, Data on, WiFi off. I even went back and turned auto screen back on as I couldn't read cleanups default change in the sunlight.
Gets turned on at 7am, and at 10 pm I'm ussually 30-40%. Medium user - 40 minutes phone use daily, 1-2 hours total IE time, ALOT of email checking, hardly any SMS.
I do use a magnetic holster too. S2U2 fixed that issue.
Biggest drain I noticed is screen. If I turn off auto and go back to CleanUp default, I can get through almost 2 full days if I turn it off around 11pm, and back on 7am.
And as far as battery total use, my older phones always turned themselves off at about 15%. THIS THING WARNS ME AT ABOUT 4% and turns off 2-3%! That's alot of extra battery use.
There is a company making a 1750a battery that will fit in stock case.
Tp2 VZW
Not sure if this will help you but some phone cases can cause battery drain. Read here:
http://forums.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=175441
I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
I did too before I made the changes below. These all work with the Stock Rom.
1. Installed No Lock (so that I don't have to swipe the screen to unlock, just push the power button)
2. Set screen to turn off in 30 seconds.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
4. Installed Screen Filter (lets me really darken my screen at night.
Try those and see how you do.
5. I then flashed the Infused Rom (I now get up to 10-14 hours)
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I have to charge my phone 2 or 3 times a day any recommendations on how to make my battery life longer that are simple and easy
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Custom kernal and rom
Running refused and infusion 1.8 rom and I get 14 hours with heavy data use
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Also, Turn off GPS and Wifi when you're not using them.
Battery
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
Thanks for all the advice this has really helped my battery
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I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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menzoom said:
After much experimenting and monitoring of battery use I find that the biggest drain is the screen display, so go to settings-->display-->brightness and lower the screen brightness as low as you comfortably can. Also when you you are not using the phone make sure the screen is off, I have trained myself to automatically hit the power button every time I put down the phone. If you listen to music through your phone make sure the settings on your music players allow the phone to play when the screen is off and turn the screen off while it plays.
GPS also drains the battery, so I keep it turned off when I don't use the Nav. When I use the Nav I know the battery will drain at a rapid pace, nothing you can do there, even if I have the phone plugged in to car power while using Nav it still drains the battery! Drains slower than unplugged navigating but still drains.
If your watching videos then your S.O.L. there's really nothing you can do that will increase battery life enough to make a difference during video playback.
I get 10-12 hours with regular use and stock rom. Worst was 8 hours best was 24.
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How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
reissy said:
How does it drain your battery when its plugged into the car? I have never seen that on any cell phone. That my friend is messed up if true.
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It seems that Samsung ****ed up and included phone CPU/screen/etc usage when measuring battery charge current.
This means that the 600 mA stock battery charge current limit isn't just going to the battery, it's split between battery/screen/CPU. If screen/CPU/etc go above 600 mA (Navigation at full brightness seems to be the most common way), battery starts draining.
It also means that unless there's something I'm missing (which I could be since the MAX8998 datasheet is super-ultra-secret), our phone isn't going to be able to do proper charge termination - if the screen is on/CPU is running, it will cause a falsely high battery charge current reading, which will cause charging to fail to terminate.
Juice defender
I found that juice defender helped my battery and i just use the free version it's a great app
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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Install a ROM. Infused v2 nearly doubled my screen-on battery life and tripled my screen-off battery life.
sweetboy02125 said:
I used Iphone 3g 3gs 4. None of them drain battery like this one. First time use Android phone and getting a bit disappointed of this phone. It's draining 2% every 5 mins and im using stock Rom.
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That's excessive... Rogue app maybe?
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Truckerglenn said:
I'm a truck driver and I'm a heavy user.
3. Installed Brightness Widget (allows changing the brightness from the home screen
There was a recent post that showed a shortcut for changing the screen brightness from the homescreen without any additional software. First, turn off auto brightness. Second, tap and hold the menu bar at the top. Third, slide left to reduce the screen brightness and right to increase screen brightness.
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Thanks I never new that
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look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
Dani897 said:
look in about phone battery use to identify the biggest battery user, it should be the screen. anything else and there is a problem.
the cell standby may go high on froyo rom, turning on flight mode and turning it off will correct that, it's an android bug.
on gingerbread the android os or android system may hog battery occasionally. some think it is the wifi sleep policy but it pops up on me without setting the sleep policy. the fix for that is to pull the battery for a couple minutes and put it back in and restart the phone.
next manage the screen brightness
install a custom rom, there are issues with certain firmware keeping sensors active wen they shouldn't be.
turn off unneeded sync options (i find that auto fetching my email uses a lot especially with my gmail already set to sync),
use wifi when you use the internet if possible, turn it off when out and about.
monitor cpu useage of apps that are cached in the task manager
kill apps that use cpu
if needed turn the max cpu clock down to 800mhz
set "use wireless networks" for location when possible for general location (limited to city level at times)
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Actually, high cell standby is OK if the phone is screen-off often.
Cell standby is always my top user - but my phone is sitting on my desk with the screen off frequently, in a location with weak signal. Weak signal makes cell standby usage go WAY up.
Syncwifi application is awesome for extending sync settings to gain more battery
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Using titanium backup I froze drm content 2.2.1 and this significantly increased my battery life.
Sent from my Infuse. It is what it isn't.
JuiceDefender!!
I agree JuiceDefender works!! I had to charge in the middle of the day. Now with moderate use it will last all day Im on stock Rom.
I easily get 2 days out of my Infuse, no idea how some of you are managing to only get 8 hours. After rooting my phone and freezing the bloat i easily get twice the battery life of my prior iPhone 3GS.
Hello all,
There appears to be a few accelerometer based sleep apps that track your sleep cycles available. I always have issues waking up so the ability that these programs have to wake you up when you are in the "lightest phase" of sleep has been truly godsend. I have not been late to work once since I began using it (usually at least 3 days a week I'm late. It is truly life changing so far for me. But id like some feedback if there are other apps out there. or what personal experiences are. Id also like to know what most of you have for your "deep sleep ratio" to see how I stack up.
Sleep as Android - I am about 5 days from the trial version expiration of "Sleep as Android". So far I love the program and am highly considering purchasing it when the trial is up. I love that it can determine the best time to wake me up, and I have a nice graph of my movements through the night, another feature I like is that it record my noise. I have found that In the beginning I was a loud snorer it has apparently gone down by utilizing an eye mask that puts pressure on my nose as well. Just about everyday my % of deep sleep is falling into the 45-49% range with one bad night being 23%.
Sleep timer - I will be trying this program this weekend once my trial version of sleep as android is up. I want to test it over the weekend so I dont miss work or anything. will update my experience
Anyone have experience with other programs or the ones I mentioned?
Electric Sleep - Not tried yet
Smart Alarm Clock -Not tried yet
Gentle Alarm -Not tried yet
Suffering fron DSPS and Non24-h sleep/wake syndrome so it's crucial for me to monitor my sleep. Up to a year ago I was using SleepSense for WP6 when I reverted to Sleep as Android and was amazed by the features.
However recently I discovered Sleep Time which works in a similar way but is way more simple. Just enter the time, the offset, a couple of settings and you're good to go. Plus, the shake-to-snooze feature is awesome. I couldn't decide which one to use so I'm using them both on my two devices lol.
Sleep as android Trial ran out. I have been using sleep time I will post my thoughts on it below.
I like the charts given by sleep time a little more and it attempts to break your sleep into 3 segments (wake, light sleep, deep sleep). regarding the statistics, I am in the same range of sleep efficiency that I was with android so whether it is accurate or not remains to be seen but it is at least consistent. Another thing I can not vouch for on Sleep as android but the "algorithm" claim suggested by sleep time I believe is BS.
Theory, the app measures your movement throughout the night you set an alarm that is the "absolute latest" you can wake up. Then you tell the app either 10/20/30 minutes before the alarm you are willing for it to begin going off. Ideally the app monitors your sleep and as you come out of your deep sleep or in a light sleep phase the alarm is supposed to begin going off. This app is steadfast on ticking to the rules, you say 10 minutes with an alarm of 7 its gonna wake you at 650 everyday whether your in deep sleep or not. I notice my wakes are not as "refreshed" as SAAD was.
Bottom line, I like seeing the graph on this and it is very light on the options, but you cant expect much for free. Personally though, until they fix their setup and stop claiming it is an algorithm waking you up, I could just as easily just set my alarm to wake me up 10 minutes sooner.
Will begin trying another app over the weekend.
I haven't heard of these type programs, but now I'm intrigued (thanks for bringing them up in the forum).
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
a few questions:
1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
electricpete1 said:
As I understand, we have to allocate a window of time when the alarm might go off. So if I need to get up 5:00 absolute latest, the window might be 4:30 to 5:00.
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Yup.
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1 - is 30 minutes a big enough window to make any difference?
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Short answer, yes. Provided that the app actually works as intended and does not just hit the alarm at the earliest time possible!
Long answer, this has to do with the duration of the sleep cycles, which last about 60 to 90 minutes on average, depending on the person. Those cycles consist of five sleep stages, stage 1, stage 2 (light sleep), stage 3 and 4 (deep sleep) and stage 5 (or REM). In general your sleep goes like this: [stage 1, 2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] - [2, 3, 4, 3, 2, REM] etc.
The important thing is that during stage 2 and REM its easier to wake up, and both those stages last more than the rest, taking up to 65-75% of the whole sleep cycle. So, 30 minutes should be an ideal offset. No matter what time you set the alarm, it's almost certain that 30 minutes before that you will eventually enter light sleep or REM sleep.
That's how these kind of apps work, they're supposed to detect the sleep stage you're on using the accelerometer (based on any movements) and wake you up only during "light" sleep.
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2 - is this any better than just setting tradiaional alarm for 4:30 and hitting snooze until you're ready to get out of bed (or until it's 5:00, whichever comes first).
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Theoretically, it is. If you just set the alarm earlier and it rings while you're in deep sleep, it could be a lot harder to wake up plus you will probably still feel tired and drowsy, possibly for the rest of the day. If, however, the alarm rings while you're in light sleep or REM sleep, it will be easier for you to wake up and you will definitely feel more refreshed.
I've woken up during deep sleep after 8:30 hours and felt awful for the rest of the day. I've woken up during light sleep after just three hours of sleep and had enough energy to pull an all-nigher the next night. It all comes down to general sleep hygiene of course but the actual sleep stage on which you wake up can and will have an effect on the quality of your sleep.
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3 -you have to keep the phone in bed with you? How do you avoid rolling over on it?
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I usually keep it right next to my pillow (flight mode on), in it's case and connected to the charger.
This problem started with v20 for me. When ever I put the tablet to sleep and leave it for an extended period of time (overnight, or all day while im at work) and I press the button to turn back on, I find it has turned off. I have to long press the power button to boot the tablet. This does not happen if I wake the tablet within an hour or so. The battery will be anywhere from 30-70% at this point also. I have tried going back to v19 and 4.3 without solving the issue. I have done full wipe/format with TWRP (latest) multiple times and get the same result (I do full wipe/format for every install I do regardless). I have set the min cpu to 3xxmhz also.
I am at a loss here and hope that the tablet itself has not just reached EOL for me. Some other install notes, I have tried to install rom/gapps and leave it as is, and I have also used Tibu to remove stock email, search, and keyboard (which is my usual install routine) with the same results both ways.
Thanks in advance.
New info, I left the tablet plugged in while at work yesterday and it did not shut down while in sleep. Also, it did not shut down last night while off the power. I'm hoping for a repeat of this performance today since I left it off the power supply, and it has 50% battery when I left this AM.
Try setting minimum CPU state to 312MHz in settings > performance
Make sure to check the "Apply at boot" box
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Try setting minimum CPU state to 312MHz in settings > performance
Make sure to check the "Apply at boot" box
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I have the min cpu set to 312MHz already, will double check the set at boot box. Also last night I set the wifi to turn off while in sleep to see if that makes a difference. Yesterday morning I had left the tablet at about 50% battery in the morning and when I got home about 10hrs later it had drained the battery to the point of shut down and I got the red battery symbol. So I think there may be something draining the battery that I don't see. I will check battery stats tonight to see where I am at with those.
With wifi off while asleep, the tablet is running perfectly. I had already increased the min cpu to 312MHz and that didn't fix it. Now that the wifi turns off on sleep there is no more battery drain while in sleep, or shut downs while in sleep.
I don't under stand why just with 4.4.2 the wifi is draining the battery so much on sleep. I only sync Calendar, Contacts, and Gmail on the google account. The same as I did before with 4.3 roms. I will play with it more tonight if I have time and try to see in stats what is using the battery the most.
I think I always forget about the niggles I have with the CN version of Xiaomi phones and then still buy another. Currently got the EU firmware, and still the same issue.
Common problem for me anyway is the Google Clock app. The alarm fails to go off and the widget still displays the alarm time of the missed alarm, e.g. it says Tue 6am when I do finally wake up, and not display Wed 6am as expected.
I've turned off battery optimisation, and it still fails to go off. If I test it by setting an alarm for a few mins time it works every time.
Similar to Gmail notifications and other apps. When the phone is not used for a while, notifications don't come through until the phone is used.
Any idea how I get the alarm clock to wake up and then wake me up?
Have you tried to lock the app using the recents menu? Open recents using the 3 lined or menu button and then hold the clock app, then select the padlock.
Might keep it active for you
Thanks. Will report back tomorrow if I wake up in time
On top of the memory-lock mentioned above, I'd also recommend turning on autostart for the app
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On top of the memory-lock mentioned above, I'd also recommend turning on Autostart for the Google Clock app
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Thanks. I can now see it's tried to autostart several times and been denied so set that to allow. Cheers.
Sadly I didn't wake up this morning (until my iPhone alarm went off.)
The phone just seems fast asleep until I wake it, then it starts receiving all the overnight notifications that my old phone would have just got silently and be there waiting when I look.
I will set an alarm for the morning and report back.
Thanks! I'll try the pre-installed clock app and see if that works.
The Xiaomi clock app works, so seems to be just the Google apps that fall asleep.
Mine went off as planned. Attached screenshot shows it being set off from notifications. Maybe check your notification settings?
Thanks. It goes off if I test it and set it to say 5 mins time, it seems to only be when the phone has not been used for some time, say midnight to 6am, then it seems to have gone to sleep itself. If I wake up early and check the phone, the alarm goes off, so notifications should be ok in that case?
Mine was set night before and in the screenshot you can see that I checked it after 6 and then the phone was left on charge with the screen off as it would normally be over night.
I think I may have fixed it. My alarm has gone off the last two days at least.
I turned off "sleep mode" in battery settings, hidden away under smart scenes.