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Hi,
Having owned a Qtek 2020/8080 and a 9090, I thought I'd give a windows mobile handset a fourth try by buying the HTC touch pro.
These are my experiences so far:
- the first 2 days I had a hard time not accidentally hang up during phonecalls
- Slow responses lead to usability hell - when a tap on a button does not seem to register, a second tap triggers a second action.
- GPS coordinates do not seem to be attached to pictures' exifdata, while it is enabled using Kaisertweak.
With the previous phone I had (Motorola RZR) I could start a new phonecall within 2 seconds. With my htc touch pro it takes 2 seconds to get to the contacts screen.
My second choice would be an iPhone. Usabilitywise that might have been a good idea, but I really require a hardware keyboard like the htc touch pro has.
Are there any speed-specific tweaks available that could speed up the userinterface? Are there themes that consume less cpu/mem?
(I do love this device because of the amount of features it packs. I'm in some kind of love-hate relationship with my phone, currently ;-)
pitr2 said:
Hi,
Having owned a Qtek 2020/8080 and a 9090, I thought I'd give a windows mobile handset a fourth try by buying the HTC touch pro.
These are my experiences so far:
- the first 2 days I had a hard time not accidentally hang up during phonecalls
- Slow responses lead to usability hell - when a tap on a button does not seem to register, a second tap triggers a second action.
- GPS coordinates do not seem to be attached to pictures' exifdata, while it is enabled using Kaisertweak.
With the previous phone I had (Motorola RZR) I could start a new phonecall within 2 seconds. With my htc touch pro it takes 2 seconds to get to the contacts screen.
My second choice would be an iPhone. Usabilitywise that might have been a good idea, but I really require a hardware keyboard like the htc touch pro has.
Are there any speed-specific tweaks available that could speed up the userinterface? Are there themes that consume less cpu/mem?
(I do love this device because of the amount of features it packs. I'm in some kind of love-hate relationship with my phone, currently ;-)
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No slowness problems here - but I did make use of the speed tweaks in the 'Raphael Tweaks' thread from the off, so I can only advise doing the same.
dgpurvis said:
No slowness problems here - but I did make use of the speed tweaks in the 'Raphael Tweaks' thread from the off, so I can only advise doing the same.
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Same here, tweaks do make a difference.
Hrm,
no problems here ROM info in sig and zero tweaks applied.
Once you apply the tweaks, have turned it on and gone through the various touch flo pages once (seemingly to get things cached) then the interface is fast.
kempas said:
Once you apply the tweaks, have turned it on and gone through the various touch flo pages once (seemingly to get things cached) then the interface is fast.
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I have removed the touchflo application from the today screen, as that was giving me the most headaches. Touching the screen didn't always register, but setting the sensitivity higher helped. I'll give that a try after I have applied the speed tweaks.
Thanks for the replies.
I found that just putting the stylus on the screen doesnt make the device react, but once a tiny bit of pressure is used it reacts flawlessly.
scarecrow2012 said:
I found that just putting the stylus on the screen doesnt make the device react, but once a tiny bit of pressure is used it reacts flawlessly.
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It's a resistive touch screen, that's how they work. They require at least a modicum of pressure to register a touch/press.
Syphon Filter said:
It's a resistive touch screen, that's how they work. They require at least a modicum of pressure to register a touch/press.
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Some have regretted that the Touch Pro doesn't have a capacitive screen because of this, but I've noted they have the opposite problem, in that screen presses can register too easily. At least with a resistive screen it is possible to adjust the required pressure.
dgpurvis said:
Some have regretted that the Touch Pro doesn't have a capacitive screen because of this, but I've noted they have the opposite problem, in that screen presses can register too easily. At least with a resistive screen it is possible to adjust the required pressure.
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One would assume the same applies for capacitive touch screens too.
Capacitive screens work on measuring the distortion of magnetic fields, the distortion threshold before a "touch" is registered could be adjusted.
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One would assume the same applies for capacitive touch screens too.
Capacitive screens work on measuring the distortion of magnetic fields, the distortion threshold before a "touch" is registered could be adjusted.
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I'm sure that's the case. I was commenting on what can be done with a resistive screen rather than comparing unfavourably with a capacitive screen.
No speed issues here, even without tweaks.
I can agree that screen sensitivity is too low even if set up to high but I taking my time...: )
Regards
B.
I am the only who experience this tendency? That the one ha UI function makes the navigation buttons at the bottom are to the left?
Often when u put it in the table often the navigation button are very often to the left. A bug? To activate one hand UI you need to use a quite rapid motion.. But obviously one hand UI activate when you put it on the table. I hope this problem is solved In the latest firmware (which is not accessible through official channels for eu devices)
If you shake your hand to the left, the navigation bar automatically adjusts to the left. Same thing goes if u shake it to the right.
[email protected] said:
If you shake your hand to the left, the navigation bar automatically adjusts to the left. Same thing goes if u shake it to the right.
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I know how the gestures is working to activate one hand GUI, what I am saying you is that it is not working..
In fact.. it is quite unsensitive so when you want to to activate one hand GUI and make the geasture the the left or right it is kind of hard you really need to do a quite rapid and distinct motion. What I am saying is that the one hand GUI is being activated WITHOUT any gesture at all.. when I am putting it on my table.. most likely it does not lie down on the table 100% straight, so what I am saying here this is simply a bug.. the one hand GUI should be activated by a distinct hand gesture not when it is laying on the desk and you pick up the phone. This makes the whole one hand GUI function very frustrating... it would had been a less problem if it had a tendency to move to the right most of the times since 99% of the time you want it to be on the right.. I wish it was possible to disable it moving it to the left at all..since I am not left handed..
Also.. I wonder..is there any 3rd party app where you can get similar one hand function to Note 4 ? where the whole screen is getting minimized to a small window ? since the Mate7 have a bigger screen then note 4.. the need is even bigger for more One hand functions... to handle a 6 inch device... I hope this will improved with Lollipop as well.. it is clear that android is not optimized for bigger devices. One simple example is google play... to push the "my apps" button you cannot reach it with your right thumb.... I think this will be some of the things that they will look at in versions after lollipop..which is to have more menus at the bottom instead of the top..where people will reach it easier...even on big devices. .. if android and apps in general was more optimized for bigger devices.. the drawbacks of big devices which mainly is you can't reach your thumb over the whole device would be a much less problem.. if the most important parts of interfaces in OS and apps is in the "Thumb zone" where most people reach with one hand use even on 6 inch devices. Nexus 6 is 6 inches..so because of that..I think android after lollipop will be a lot more optimized for bigger screens in general.. also the averge screen size is getting bigger.. 5.5 inches is now really common.. but I think 6 inches.. is where it will stop...
Sure if the mate 7 hade 100% body to screen ratio then sure..it could had bigger screen but I would not like a phone with bigger outer measurements then this.. the limits is here for sure.. going over this limit is just stupid..
I understand what you mean, although i have not really tried this one hand function of the mate 7, because i find the solution half-baked in mate 7. In note series (3 & 4 I'm sure), the whole screen is minimized. The current lenovo vibe z2 pro also does the same thing as the note's, which for me is the perfect implementation of the one-hand operation function. Although this function is not a deal breaker for me, cause i still find the mate 7 attractive because of its many other uses.
Does anyone noticing that the touchscreen on the S6 is very sensitive. The screen registers my touches even when my finger is not physically touching the glass. I like highly sensitive touchscreen but it can be annoying especially when I am scrolling webpages.
kojaraty said:
Does anyone noticing that the touchscreen on the S6 is very sensitive. The screen registers my touches even when my finger is not physically touching the glass. I like highly sensitive touchscreen but it can be annoying especially when I am scrolling webpages.
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I might be wrong, but I think since the S4 or Note 3, the phone has had the ability to detect when a finger was hovering over a particular spot. Though that is probably incorect because I only vaguely remember reading something about that 2 years ago when Samsung started introducing crazy features like scrolling based off of tilt and such.
Chocolina said:
I might be wrong, but I think since the S4 or Note 3, the phone has had the ability to detect when a finger was hovering over a particular spot. Though that is probably incorect because I only vaguely remember reading something about that 2 years ago when Samsung started introducing crazy features like scrolling based off of tilt and such.
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Yeah I remember this feature on previous Samsung phones, but there is nothing in the settings that indicates that there is such feature on the S6.
Screens don't even work with the note stylist.
I agree, it is SUPER sensitive. For me, this is a plus, because I tend to be too fast for most touch screens, and the extra sensitivity keeps the S6 on par with my quick hands. I actually love everything about this phone, and I am very picky.
ingenious247 said:
I agree, it is SUPER sensitive. For me, this is a plus, because I tend to be too fast for most touch screens, and the extra sensitivity keeps the S6 on par with my quick hands. I actually love everything about this phone, and I am very picky.
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But, does your device have accedental touches when swiping quickly a webpage or an app?
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Yeah I remember this feature on previous Samsung phones, but there is nothing in the settings that indicates that there is such feature on the S6.
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I don't have mine till later today, but, on the S5, there are two settings that may be affecting the issue you are having. Can you still search the settings on the S6? Look for "Air View" (main culprit) and "Touch Sensitivity".
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But, does your device have accedental touches when swiping quickly a webpage or an app?
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No, my device doesn't have accidental touches, but my fingers do. lol
The device can't make me accidentally do it, it's not a fault of the phone
natefish said:
I don't have mine till later today, but, on the S5, there are two settings that may be affecting the issue you are having. Can you still search the settings on the S6? Look for "Air View" (main culprit) and "Touch Sensitivity".
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Both of those seen to have been removed as user options.
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I would like to see the touch response time of this device's screen measured. It's seems very responsive .
Yes it does and it's really annoying. To replicate the issue, scroll down a web slowly and then lift a very little like 0.5-1mm of your finger while you scroll it up. So scroll down and then lift a bit and scroll up without touching the screen. When you do this fast enough, the page will scroll up following your finger movement without touching the screen at all. Weird.
The Air View feature was removed on the S6, it was present on the S5 and Note variants. Same thing with the Screen Sensitivity toggle from the S5, Samsung just opted to make the screen more sensitive by default.
i have an S5 and S6 so I was able to compare.
I used the S5 for about a week and the touch screen was great
once I got the S6 I noticed i keep accidently hitting back/window button . upon tinkering and testing I realized the screen is super sensitive. If you take both the S5 and S6 (one in each hand) and lay them face down on your lap together, the S6 will hit buttons (and thus vibrate), the S5 wont
Hello,
For touch screen problem try this:
-in dialer type *#2663#
-TSP firmware update (general)
You should see "PASS"
That have solve my touch screen problem...
i have the same problem when playing Clash of Clans because sometimes when i launch a spell the screen is so sensitive and it launches alone
kojaraty said:
Does anyone noticing that the touchscreen on the S6 is very sensitive. The screen registers my touches even when my finger is not physically touching the glass. I like highly sensitive touchscreen but it can be annoying especially when I am scrolling webpages.
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Have that as well on my 1st S6 Vodafone EU 32gb.
Returned it for other reasons and will receive new one next week....
My touch screen was not sensitive at all, very unresponsive
I can verify that this indeed works:
For touch screen problem try this:
-in dialer type *#2663#
-TSP firmware update (general)
You should see "PASS"
I tried a reset, a full system restore, I tried safe mode, I tired uninstalling all apps, I tried screen tests and can verify for me, that this above solution was the only thing that fixed my problem.
Screen is working wonderfully now
Fix doesn't work for me?
-JFK- said:
Hello,
For touch screen problem try this:
-in dialer type *#2663#
-TSP firmware update (general)
You should see "PASS"
That have solve my touch screen problem...
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I tried this and got an error message that this feature is not available on my service. I'm on US Cellular, I don't know if that matters or not. I saw this fix posted on another site and it seemed to work for a few people who were having the same issues that I'm experiencing. I'm not very technically savvy...do you actually dial/call this number sequence? How do I choose or command "TSP firmware update"? Thanks.
Some games are impossible to play because the screen is so sensitive it counts a touch as a swipe and some apps read as two touches. This happens consistently, not just here and there.
Jerameecarson said:
Some games are impossible to play because the screen is so sensitive it counts a touch as a swipe and some apps read as two touches. This happens consistently, not just here and there.
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Not sure if it's just the way I'm holding the phone, but I frequently find myself turning on a timer, only to realise that I've paused/cancelled it like 2 secs after. Great when you put something in the oven and forget lol.
Hello. I have an Nvidia Shield tablet k1 on lollipop 5.1.1. Everything is great about this tablet except the touch screen. It is really sensitive. Also, when I am scrolling, it "jumps" and goes faster than I actually scrolled. It scrolls faster than it should. I found this thread on xda. It helped a little with the being too sensitive issue, but scrolling is still really weird. This is my second device since the first one's micro sd card was defective. They both are like this. Is there anything I can do, or do I just have to deal with it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/general/adjust-touchscreen-sensitivity-t2963326
I was opening a thread with this exact same issue. I'm not on stock though (using the latest CM12 nightly), so I don't seem to have the 'Sensor Calibration' option.
Also the touchscreen seems to register a touch even when the finger is not touching the screen.
On the other hand, if I scroll a very small distance (like 0.5 centimetres) the list I'm scrolling doesn't move at all. This doesn't happen on other devices such as my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 and is very annoying in some cases (some games, or moving the cursor for keyboard input).
I'll try to record a video of this behaviour.
What can we do to fix this?
Update: found a video (not mine) showing the issue I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08uPtusOJHQ
anyone else with this issue?
I also have this issue on/off sporadically on stock rom.
I'll be scrolling and itll jump back the opposite direction
Its like it looses track of the touch then catches it again.
It's irritating as my S5, Nexus 2012 have no problems scrolling smoothly.
I don't recall the original shield i tested in store to have this issue either.
Currently having amazon ship me a replacement to see if its just limited to the one I received. (QA issues)
Calibrating screen might fix the issues: go to About in settings and tap on model number until the calibration screen comes up. then hit calibrate. don't touch the screen then when it asks to reboot, reboot.
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Calibrating screen might fix the issues: go to About in settings and tap on model number until the calibration screen comes up. then hit calibrate. don't touch the screen then when it asks to reboot, reboot.
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Did it fix the issue I posted the video about? I'm on Cyanogenmod now so I don't have the option to calibrate the screen, but I would consider going back to stock if it fixed this issue...
Calibration doesnt help at all , same issue at brand new k1. Nvidia says thats normal functionality lol
Yeah, very normal for a gaming tablet which would require precision...
Not trying to take up for this thing but I haven't had the first touch screen issue with it . so maybe not all is affected?? I've tried to replicate the issue but just can't everywhere I touch and slide is smooth
You mean it doesn't "jump" like the OP said? I don't seem to have that issue either.
I'm more concerned about the touchscreen's precision, as shown in the video.
Recently I bought the motorola one vision that by the way I left it today in the warranty and on Saturday they will give me a new one, I changed it because I was having problems with the tactile sensitivity.
I come from a xiaomi mi a2 and I am used to writing very fast, in the motorola one vision when writing fast or normal sometimes certain letters when touching them did nothing like they do not recognize the touch.
This happens to me with a tempered glass screen protector or without it and when charging this is worse, and also if for example I put the phone on a surface the sensitivity drops to the maximum.
If you google it you will see a lot of reports of this issue in lenovo forums
do you have this touch issue too?
Yes, I have problems with the touchscreen sensitivity, because of this I removed the protective screen of the display which did not stick well because of the curvature of the screen. Now I use the phone without a foil screen protector and the touch is better . I read in this forum there are more people complained this matter . Also I can tell this is not Gorilla glas this is some glass equivalent to Gorilla glass 3 .
90% have this problem , is hardware issue . A10 solved it a little but still have it
I have this problem and it drives me crazy. I am still stuck on A9 so hoping A10 does indeed improve it a little. The worst is when the phone is sitting flat on my desk - it is almost impossible to use.
No touch issues here. XT1970-3 with tempered glass. Don't know about in games as I don't play.
I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.
yippee ki yay said:
I also had problems using the device with film, I researched a lot on the Internet about it and it seems to be a problem with the device. But with two simple configurations I managed to get around the problem and the device is very usable at the moment. 1 - Go to settings - System - Languages and input - click advanced - find the option Pointer speed - Slide the bar all the way to the right and click Ok. Restart the device. 2 - Open again Settings - Sound - Scroll the screen down - Click on advanced - Find the option "Vibrate when touching the screen" and disable it.
I hope I helped, with these two settings I managed to get around the problem on my device. It still has some gagging but the touch response is much better.
Sorry my bad english.
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This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .
muppetz said:
This is not a quite well solution because increasing sensitivity of touches from settings will cause false-positive clicks, touches , whatever which are undesirable in a daily use of phone .
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I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.
yippee ki yay said:
I made this configuration on my device and had no problem with false positives. And with the update to Android 10 the touch has improved more. I noticed that by activating the "vibrate when touching the screen" setting again, the device again fails to touch when typing.
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I'm sure you're right about this but I'm sure you have a screen protector . I don't . So in my case your solution isn't quite well .
Help us to find a solution
Hello, I have the same problem but I found something that help...
My problem increase when is on a surface, but if you plug only the cable type C the problem is fix...
If you do it, just plug the cable to the phone and the other part leave it alone
I think the port or something internal there isn't connected to ground... Maybe someone with better knowledge in electronics can help.
Test it and tell me if works you
Bought one for my wife and updated to Android 10. I can confirm the issue still exists touch sensitivity is not very accurate . It's ok could be better but not a deal breaker. Motorola should do something z then again all hardware is made by samsung..... This model it's not produced anymore , I wonder why....