Verizon just announced there low band 5G network to compete with at&t and tmobile. Will our ultra 20 support this network?
Yes. You will need a software update from Verizon to enable N5.
Verizon N20U variants already got the update for activating low-band 5G.
The unlocked variants are waiting for Samsung to release the update. Shouldn't be too long though.
TheForceUnleashed said:
Verizon N20U variants already got the update for activating low-band 5G.
The unlocked variants are waiting for Samsung to release the update. Shouldn't be too long though.
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I hope so. When called Samsung yesterday I got the huh? response. But I didn't go up the support tiers to get someone who knew what I was talking about. Does the unlocked Note20 Ultra 5G out of the box work if you happen to be in one of the select places that has UWB or does that require an update too.
Bobsacto said:
Does the unlocked Note20 Ultra 5G out of the box work if you happen to be in one of the select places that has UWB or does that require an update too.
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If you have a 5G SIM card, then yes. When I used my older Verizon SIM card it wouldn't connect to 5G UWB, but once I picked up a new one from a Verizon store (that does say 5G on it), it started working on my unlocked Note20 Ultra. Incredibly fast when you have a signal...
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Verizon N20U variants already got the update for activating low-band 5G.
The unlocked variants are waiting for Samsung to release the update. Shouldn't be too long though.
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Verizon has a list of compatible 5G phones that will work on Nationwide 5g. On their site it says it could take weeks to a couple months to update these devices. I have a couple unlocked phones. Looks like the OnePlus 8 pro is excluded. That's messed up! Same chip set as the S20 phones. Guess I'll call and try to get a for sure answer.
I have an unlocked note 20 ultra. And am supposed to be living in an area of nationwide 5g. I'm not getting it. So I called Verizon, and tried to see if there was something that needed to change for me to get it. At 1st I was told it wasn't in my area. And then I was told I needed to wait for an update for it to happen. I'm totally confused
ptko15 said:
I have an unlocked note 20 ultra. And am supposed to be living in an area of nationwide 5g. I'm not getting it. So I called Verizon, and tried to see if there was something that needed to change for me to get it. At 1st I was told it wasn't in my area. And then I was told I needed to wait for an update for it to happen. I'm totally confused
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There will be an update pushed to your phone that will allow you to connect to Verizon's nationwide 5g. The unlock model will just take a little longer to get the update versus the Verizon model.
droidrev71 said:
There will be an update pushed to your phone that will allow you to connect to Verizon's nationwide 5g. The unlock model will just take a little longer to get the update versus the Verizon model.
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The only question/worry I have, is, does this require a specific sim card? Such as a 5g sim card? Or does any newer sim card work?
ptko15 said:
The only question/worry I have, is, does this require a specific sim card? Such as a 5g sim card? Or does any newer sim card work?
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Yes, you need to get a Verizon 5g sim card. I just called Verizon and asked for one and they sent it to me for free.
I ordered one and am waiting for it to arrive.
ptko15 said:
I ordered one and am waiting for it to arrive.
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Nice.. I wish this update would get pushed to our phones already.
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I'm going to Verizon to see if I can get my 4G sim from my old Note 8 reactivated. There is 5G in this area but the signal where I'm at is marginal. It's strong enough to keep my phone from falling back to 4G but weak enough to be essentially useless. 4G was never that great around here either, but it's better than the 5G. And Verizon disabled the ability to just shut 5G off.
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I'm going to Verizon to see if I can get my 4G sim from my old Note 8 reactivated. There is 5G in this area but the signal where I'm at is marginal. It's strong enough to keep my phone from falling back to 4G but weak enough to be essentially useless. 4G was never that great around here either, but it's better than the 5G. And Verizon disabled the ability to just shut 5G off.
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Just curious if the app called Samsung band selection would help? What I did was lock the phone to bands 2,4,5,13,66 and it would stay on 4glte+ vs the 5g.
Note 20 Ultra 5G Verizon UltraWide and NationWide 5G
It's November 29. 2020. Was there an update for the Unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G to use either the UW or Nationwide 5G band using Verizon as the carrier?
Does Samsung's unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G cover both Verizon's 5G UW and Nationwide signal.
Thank you so much.
History: I bought the Note 10 Plus 5G from Verizon about a year ago with the promise (I know I know) of their 5G reaching my San Diego off-skirt area within the year. Well, come to find out that my Note 10 Plus UW 5G isn't supported by their alternate 5G Nationwide. Nationwide IS in my area whereas the UW is not. So, I bought out my phone contract to get the new 5G Nationwide support, which apparently the Note 20 Ultra 5G has. I bought this from Verizon yesterday and have 14 days to decide if that was the right move. In the meantime, Samsung has a like deal with a few extras that I might want to cancel the Verizon Note 20 Ultra 5G and get Samsung's Unlocked variant. I'm wondering if the Samsung Unlocked variant will support BOTH Verizon 5G networks, being UW and Nationwide.
Have a great day!
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It's November 29. 2020. Was there an update for the Unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G to use either the UW or Nationwide 5G band using Verizon as the carrier?
Does Samsung's unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G cover both Verizon's 5G UW and Nationwide signal.
Thank you so much.
History: I bought the Note 10 Plus 5G from Verizon about a year ago with the promise (I know I know) of their 5G reaching my San Diego off-skirt area within the year. Well, come to find out that my Note 10 Plus UW 5G isn't supported by their alternate 5G Nationwide. Nationwide IS in my area whereas the UW is not. So, I bought out my phone contract to get the new 5G Nationwide support, which apparently the Note 20 Ultra 5G has. I bought this from Verizon yesterday and have 14 days to decide if that was the right move. In the meantime, Samsung has a like deal with a few extras that I might want to cancel the Verizon Note 20 Ultra 5G and get Samsung's Unlocked variant. I'm wondering if the Samsung Unlocked variant will support BOTH Verizon 5G networks, being UW and Nationwide.
Have a great day!
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The UW 5g is already supported on the unlocked model. As of now the unlocked does not support the nation wide 5g but in the s20 forums they said that one of the betas enabled the nation wide 5g for them. So I'm sure we will get it with the next big update.
I've tried both the Verizon firmware and the unlocked firmware and i prefer the unlocked way more. If you can return it and get the extra stuff then i would do it.
Or if you want the 5g now then still get the unlocked note 20 but then flash the Verizon firmware into it.
But the best thing about the unlocked firmware is caller id on both calls and text for free. And nation wide 5g is not faster at this time so i can happily wait.
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what is tmobile going to do with all the people who own the Sprint LG V50 (LM-V450PM)?
do we get a free upgrade to a tmobile 5g phone since the sprint v50 5g is not compatible?
I called and they offered a Samsung S20 free lease. You would think a deal from a LG V50 for a LG V60 but I guess that wouldn't make sense.
can you explain how you were able to do that or who you spoke with because i called and asked and they did not offer such and told me they never heard of that or offer such a promotion.
tmobile put a sim card in to test the 5g and it works (at least the korean version 450 lg v50 but all of them should). the rep told me initially, the 5g may not have had the necessary coverage in bandwidth but tmobile is starting to open up more bandwidths as 5g becomes more available and more common. i am in a heavy 5g area covered by tmobile.
I have the Sprint V50 and I can confirm 5g is working on T-mobile.
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I have the Sprint V50 and I can confirm 5g is working on T-mobile.
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No, it does not There is a difference between showing 5G in the notification bar and actually working 5G.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/i8qjyk/why_is_my_lg_v50_showing_5g_thought_sprint_shut/ explains technical details.
5G radio on the Sprint variant of this phone is not compatible with T-mobile's 5G network.
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No, it does not There is a difference between showing 5G in the notification bar and actually working 5G.
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/i8qjyk/why_is_my_lg_v50_showing_5g_thought_sprint_shut/ explains technical details.
5G radio on the Sprint variant of this phone is not compatible with T-mobile's 5G network.
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I used the LTE discovery app, and it just shows EARFCN (LTE band unknown.)
What is a little confusing is that the specs here https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_v50_thinq_5g-9607.php
Shows the phone supports 260 and 261. which from what I understand T-mobile uses.
I can confirm when I first got the device, all I got was LTE. Not too long ago all of a sudden I did get the little 5g logo on my device.
That is a bit confusing.
do all note20ultra have Verizon 5g mmWave?
what about unlocked version?
or only Verizon note20ultra has 5g ultra mmWave?
I have the same question. I ordered the Unlocked US version, I hope it has all of the same bands but I can't find confirmation anywhere. I did chat with Samsung and they stated that the US Unlocked version will support Verizon 5G, unlike the unlocked 20 5G which did not. I guess I'll see when I get the phone.
Edit: Tom's Guide says The Galaxy Note 20 Ultra supports both flavors of 5G, so you should be able to hop on both sub 6-GHz networks and mmWave networks where they are available.
I believe all U.S. models support mmWave. No need to buy a Verizon one.
I was just curious if Wi-Fi calling would work and LTE 4G on the unlocked version versus the Verizon one?
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I was just curious if Wi-Fi calling would work and LTE 4G on the unlocked version versus the Verizon one?
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Yes it does.
Has anyone here ordered an unlocked Z flip 3 from 5g directly from Samsung and currently using it on AT&T in the US? I am trying to confirm that the phone will be able to access AT&T's 5g network. I've seen conflicting info out there. I don't want to buy it if it won't get 5g.
Works fine on my wifes flip 3, and also for the record on my fold 3.
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Works fine on my wifes flip 3, and also for the record on my fold 3.
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Thanks for the info because I prefer the unlocked version over the one with the carrier garbage on it
Hopefully your 5g is better than Verizon's. I get significantly better speeds on 4g. The most I've seen on a 5g speed test (and ive done many from many locations) is 7Mbps and I'm in an excellent coverage area for Verizon... although when it comes to 5g you can't tell where coverage is because the map combines it with 4g.
Verizon also combines (I'm probably saying this wrong) multiple 4g data streams together and calls it 5g and from my experience it's terrible.
I actually asked Verizon if there was a sim card I could get that would just allow for 4g since there is no disable 5g setting on the Verizon version but there is on every other carrier...uhg.
Anyways they said yes, I got 2 new sims and... I still saw 5g and I still have the wonderful battery drain from the phone constantly trying to get a 5g signal. Terrible.
I have this exact same setup and I don't have 5g either, logo doesn't show up or anything. I went to the att store and asked about a sim card and they said that shouldn't matter, I had them look up my plan and apparently I don't have a 5g plan (I'm using a line on my dad's plan). It would be nice, but I've accepted it for now. I've gotten pretty decent battery life from the start and I think it might be because I don't use 5g
I have the Samsung unlocked model and am with At&t. When am out and about at the top I do see it says 5G but in Miami we have no 5G enable yet but it does seem like it would get 5G once that enable. Once in a while i do loose that 5G signal and it drops down to LTE but for like a few seconds only than it jumps back to the 5G signal.
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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Looks like 5G Bands 5 & 41, that's it, if this source is accurate:
Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra: Price, specs and best deals
Here you will find where to buy the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra Global · 12GB · 1TB · SM-S908B, for the cheapest price from over 140 stores constantly traced in kimovil.com
www.kimovil.com
tripdastati0n said:
Can you explain what that means. Maybe explain like your doing it to a 6 year old so I understand
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Well, not knowing which carrier you use, I don't know what else to say.... Perhaps take a look at the source the next time you're not "Baked AF".....
No ill will intended, but, if you give the site a good look, you'll be able to figure it out.
tripdastati0n said:
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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The most reliable way to ensure your device will support 5G is aquire your Service Provider's device.
Typically with the Exynos variants you can access root but since it's a brand new version ask a Exynos user if bootloader unlock is available in developer options. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Again typlically only the Snapdragon version from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong (SM-G9080) will offer unlocking the bootloader. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Be aware OneUI 4.1 may have eliminated bootloader unlock.
tripdastati0n said:
Thanks bud, what a gentleman I have tmobile in the US. So your saying if I get a tmobile exynos I can have 5g in the US no prob? And is snapdragon s22 ultra rootable or is it just the exynos version?
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The T-Mobile device is a Snapdragon variant, if that's your carrier and you need 5G it's your best option. The T-Mobile device, if it's the same as it's predecessor the S21 Ultra, can't be rooted. T-Mobile only sells Snapdragon variants.
My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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Yep, I have the SM-G9980 on T-Mobile and Network Mode displays 5G but it never connects. For me 5G is close to useless and I'd rather not have T-mobile's bloatware and prefer the unlocked bootloader. Not to mention no long term carrier commitment if you're looking for a discount on a new device.
Just made the switch from s21 ultra. I'm getting 5G but it doesn't say 5G UC on my s22 ultra. I'm on TMOB on the unlocked version. Anyone else with same setup that does say 5G UC?
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Just made the switch from s21 ultra. I'm getting 5G but it doesn't say 5G UC on my s22 ultra. I'm on TMOB on the unlocked version. Anyone else with same setup that does say 5G UC?
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I live in a fringe area from the closest 5G UC area but do pick it up from time to time. I have the TMO model and on the TMO firmware I see it and it connects to n41. But when testing out the U1 firmware (same as what your running) I cannot get it to connect to n41 and no 5G UC icon.
no UC designation, just 5G Does the S21 show 5g UC?
I have the unlocked version. I'm trying to understand if anyone sees 5G UC on it.
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I have the unlocked version. I'm trying to understand if anyone sees 5G UC on it.
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If you flash the tmo firmware you'll see the 5G UC icon, but also you'll have tmo bloat.
I'm on unlocked version using TMo and I only see cellular bars, no 5G icon.
I experienced 5GUC for the first time today and had to look it up to see what it was. Pretty fascinating stuff. Interestingly enough, the IPhone 13 Max in my proximity also has 5GUC.
So it seems that U1 does get 5G UC even if it only shows 5G. It seems that only the T-Mobile version will display 5GUC but I did a comparison at a T-Mobile store and consistently got the same or better speed even though my device only displayed 5G. I was getting over 500 MB speed which is definitely UC.
Modem on s22u is much better than fold3 on TMO. All my signal issues are gone on the s22U.
say, learning as fast as I can, been a number of years since flashing phones/tablets.
We have 2 new unlocked s22u from samsung, going to use them on t-mobile.
the thought is to head to the corp store, for sims and to get them working. our current s9 are still with sprint sims.
Also, do I need to flash these to get 5g, wifi calling, or things like that working ?? or just for the proper 5g icons??
I see U1 or mentions of it. does flashing t-mobile get me basicaly a branded unlocked phone ??
the thought unlocked was more to head to spectrum mobile, or another provider, not so much anti bloat. if that makes sense.
sorry to tack extras on to this thread, and thanks very much for your time
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So it seems that U1 does get 5G UC even if it only shows 5G. It seems that only the T-Mobile version will display 5GUC but I did a comparison at a T-Mobile store and consistently got the same or better speed even though my device only displayed 5G. I was getting over 500 MB speed which is definitely UC.
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I had the Pixel 6 pro and I`m on Tmobile and the 6 pro would show 5GUC and I was like what is that, and had to look it up, but with my S22U through the same area it only shows 5G
Just put your TMO sim in (when you get it), the phone will say that the network provider has changed and will reboot, and everything will just work...
It doesn't shows the icon but gets connected to uc band and has no difference in download speed.
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say, learning as fast as I can, been a number of years since flashing phones/tablets.
We have 2 new unlocked s22u from samsung, going to use them on t-mobile.
the thought is to head to the corp store, for sims and to get them working. our current s9 are still with sprint sims.
Also, do I need to flash these to get 5g, wifi calling, or things like that working ?? or just for the proper 5g icons??
I see U1 or mentions of it. does flashing t-mobile get me basicaly a branded unlocked phone ??
the thought unlocked was more to head to spectrum mobile, or another provider, not so much anti bloat. if that makes sense.
sorry to tack extras on to this thread, and thanks very much for your time
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For your needs since you have the unlocked U1 versions, all you need is to pop on the sim cards and you'll get all the features you mentioned above. Your phone will stay unlocked so once you settle in you can move your primary sim to the e-sim slot and use the other physical sim with another carrier for a secondary line when you travel or for business/ other needs..
I am having the same issue as the OP. Had S21 Samsung unlocked from Samsung on Tmobile and showed 5G UC. My S22 ultra unlocked from Samsung only shows 5G. I am getting less speed. On S21 speeds fluctuate between 200-300 down and 90 up. On S22 Ultra 5G only shows 5G icon getting 100-200 down and approximately 30 up.
OP did you flash Tmobile firmware and did it fix anything? I have been back and forth with Tmobile and the rep sent a ticket to engineering saying they have seen some reports of this but Tmobile and Samsung won't officially confirm it and there is an update coming starting today through the next few days **that they claim will fix this.
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So it seems that U1 does get 5G UC even if it only shows 5G. It seems that only the T-Mobile version will display 5GUC but I did a comparison at a T-Mobile store and consistently got the same or better speed even though my device only displayed 5G. I was getting over 500 MB speed which is definitely UC.
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Yes that is correct, it does get 5G UC but on stock unlocked you only see 5G, I use LTE discovery and I can see when it locks into to UC
Everyone will suffer now!
5G icon only for me
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Everyone will suffer now!
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Was that on a U or U1?
The U1 ROM does not show UC for T-Mobile or UW for Verizon yet. It connects to n41 or n77/mmWave fine, and the display issue will probably be fixed in an update.
You can confirm your UCness via *#0011# (and I wanted a reason to use the pen lol):