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Pre-ordered Note 10+ (unlocked), have a question..

Just purchased the black note 10+ unlocked and also took the galaxy watch while I was at it. I added the Verizon sim to save me a trip to the store.
My two questions are:
Since I selected trade in on my Verizon note 8, will they take it if it's not unlocked?
Will this unlocked note 10+ allow me to flash custom ROMs and root if they are found?

1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).

jygsaw said:
1. I think they'll take the trade-in as long as the phone is paid off and in good condition
2. Only Note 10s with Exynos will have guaranteed access to root and custom ROMs. If i'm not mistaken, starting with the S9 series of snapdragon phones, root became pretty much impossible. IF root happens, it's going to be a very VERY long time (IF ever, that is).
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When is the note 10s out?
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liquidraven said:
When is the note 10s out?
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My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.

jygsaw said:
My bad, I meant "Note 10's", as in plural, since there's the 10 and the 10+. So I was referring to those phones.
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Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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liquidraven said:
Oh ok but the unlocked phones are the exynos?
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The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.

jygsaw said:
The US unlocked phones are Snapdragon. Overseas, they'll be running Exynos.
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Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?

Ended up canceling my pre order through Sammy. I really want to have a exynos again for custom potential.
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With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.

Guyinlaca said:
With trade ins, it shouldn't matter what carrier or if it's carrier unlocked as long as it's in good condition.
As for potential for root and unlocked bootloaders, the chances are slim to none with any US Snapdragon model. Add to that, having Verizon makes it more difficult as the Exynos models are not compatible. If you want a phone with unlockable bootloader for use on Verizon, your options are the Pixels direct from Google, OnePlus 7 Pro, or buying a Latin American Note 9 or Note 10 that allows bootloader unlocking.
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Any major diff with the Latin note 10 otherwise?
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Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international
liquidraven said:
Verizon just told me on the phone that the international note 10 unlocked would work but I should have said exynos.
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international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going

liquidraven said:
Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Ahhh, as far as I know for pre-ordering, you'd have to do that through either an overseas carrier or one of Samsung's overseas websites (like UK or something). Even then, don't know if any of em will ship to the US. They likely won't.
If you wait til release day or after, Amazon should sell them then. You can finally find the exynos variants on Amazon under "international version" if I'm not mistaken.

Trnzbldr said:
international is gsm only, will work on at+t, best on t mobile, i also want root and will go international. once i see how development is going
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Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.

Micky 22 said:
Does T mobile use LTE band 71? I'm not sure if the international ones have band 71. I Could be wrong.
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Yes. Tmobile uses: 2, 4, 5, 12, 46, 66, 71, and LTE U. I guess they'll acquire Sprint frequencies eventually.

liquidraven said:
Where do you get the international Exynos version of the Note 10?
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Youo can either buy it on EBAY - several good sellers offer it there - or you can go the CLOVE UK web site and get it from them. I have purchased all of my last four phnoes from CLOVE - they have decent prices and great customer service. Fast shipping too considering they are in the UK.If you buy the phone from them and pay 20 bucks for 3 day shipping - they will ship the phone on the 23rd and you should hve it by Monday or Tuesday.
Which ever you choose, good luck!

The Exynos does not support all the LTE bands used in the United States, including band 13 which is a requirement for Verizon.
As for the Latin American Note 10+, it's too soon to know if there will be any differences. The Latin American Note 9 (N9600) took a few months after release for people to figure out how to get everything working on Verizon. Out of the box it didn't work with VOLTE, but after a complex series of firmware flashes and tweaks, it can work. For many, the uncertainty of buying an international phone with no warranty and not knowing what challenges they will face is limiting. Check out the Note 9 forum on how to convert an N9600 to Verizon and see if it looks feasible. The Latin American variants will likely be the N9700 (Note 10) and N9750 (Note 10+) if Samsung sticks to their model number structure.

Oneplus 7 pro Variants

II recently purchase a oneplus 7 pro on ebay, i believed the phone to be us version unlocked and was sent a tmobile version,
i was able to get the international version flashed onto it and is running great with root and all, the question i have what are the variants numbers they use in tmobile, verizon and oneplus persay. i cant seem to find much reference online about just the thread below, that info is kind of broad. the GM1915 is this us unlocked or tmobile veriant.
https://www.phonemore.com/models/oneplus/7-pro/

cubanghost said:
II recently purchase a oneplus 7 pro on ebay, i believed the phone to be us version unlocked and was sent a tmobile version,
i was able to get the international version flashed onto it and is running great with root and all, the question i have what are the variants numbers they use in tmobile, verizon and oneplus persay. i cant seem to find much reference online about just the thread below, that info is kind of broad. the GM1915 is this us unlocked or tmobile veriant.
https://www.phonemore.com/models/oneplus/7-pro/
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That information is not exactly correct. The GM1917 is the North American unlocked version.

thank you, dam i got the wrong phone but i switched to international rooted and now is all good here. thanks for the info. i just wanted mainly to know if i had gotten ripped off n ebay

Should I get the OnePlus 7T T-Mobile or 7 Pro for best root experience / custom ROMs?

Hello all,
I'm on T-Mobile and trying to get away from the hell that is Samsung. I'm looking at OnePlus 7T T-Mobile, or 7 Pro.
It looks like the "root community" is more active on 7 Pro, and my fear is that the "7T T-Mobile" will give me trouble when unlocking bootloader and installing custom ROMs.
7 Pro seems to be very close in specs and has just looking at the ROMs section here makes it look like it has a more active community.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.

If you mean 7 Pro (non carrier variant) then definitely go for it.
Not because there is more development, but also because I'd avoid any carrier variant of any phone.

If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!

Coming back to OnePlus with a OP 7 Pro from a Galaxy S10+ and I highly agree with the above statements. No carrier phones, OnePlus 7 Pro for the win!

Greatness83 said:
If push comes to shove, you can always convert the TMO version to international. Easy and works like a charm.
Go for 7 Pro. Nothing beats the no notch full screen!!
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Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?

I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.

mbarry55 said:
Can you explain this a little? I'm actually looking at the 7 Pro on Swappa and the price difference from the TMobile version to the unlocked version is pretty significant. If I buy one that says T-Mobile unlocked, am I to assume it is sim-unlocked and can be converted?
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Pretty much..I would check first before you decide to keep it. Also with the branded phones I would make sure it's not still under contract, stolen or not paid off. Something to think about
Also what the guy above me said is pretty much what I was going to say

The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro

pro_granade said:
The 7T Pro doesn't have a TWRP that can flash to the system. So you're stuck with using fastboot to flash ROMs. If you don't wanna do that, buy a 7 Pro
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Yes it does

Greatness83 said:
Yes it does
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At least not the safe official one
https://forum.xda-developers.com/7t-pro/development/recovery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-t3989333

loofn said:
I would only recommend doing so if and only if you are familiar with flashing rom/twrp/root and know what you are doing. If you have decided to buy a T-Mobile model, just make sure that it is fully network unlocked (you can test it with other carriers sim) and do the conversion first then unlock bootloader using the international model version method. I myself bought a refurbished T-Mobile version of oneplus 7pro for quite cheap and converted it to the international version. It has since then became an international model without any drawbacks. Dual sims is working, all custom roms are working and every mods that works on the global model will work on the T-Mobile converted model. The best part is after you convert to global, it will always stay global no matter which roms you flashed unless you revert it back.
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Yes I've been flashing since the original Droid. Haven't had a phone I could flash since my pixel xl though. I'll make sure and get an unlocked t-mobile phone. There are no limitations after the conversion? I feel like I was reading people who converted the 6T had issues with safetynet and nfc payments. All clear here?

Thanks guys. Got a sim unlocked t-mobile 7 pro coming from swappa.

EU model on Verizon?

Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version however I didn't know the US unlocked was a different model because nowhere I looked online mentioned it. I looked at the LTE bands before purchasing it and saw it supports all of Verizons bands (especially the critical band 13) so in theory it should still work right? My fear is when I give them the IMEI to enable CDMA Less on my line they will notice its an EU model that's "not approved on their network" and thus that will prevent it from working even though it supports all their bands.
Now to answer some questions:
Why did I buy this from Amazon instead of OnePlus?
Because it was $100 cheaper and the only way to get the Onyx Black color
Why didn't I buy the Verizon version?
Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones

3mutts said:
Hey guys I just bought a OnePlus 8 off Amazon to replace my Pixel 2 XL. However today I noticed it's the EU model IN2013, NA is IN2015, I already knew not to buy IN2010 the Chinese version
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Because it's $100 more expensive than the unlocked and it has a locked bootloader like all of Verizons phones
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Hi,
I don't think they won't approve your device. I'm living in France so I don't know much about the Verizon Politics about that. But if they have common sense, they won't refuse just because it's not one of their devices, they may lose a lot of customers if they did so. There's a Verizon model to support their 5G, but for LTE it's all good.
In France, no carrier would dare doing that, because everybody buys their phones on internet, already unlocked and stuff...
There's a huge competition between carrier so they won't dare to be so restrictive on who can use their network or not. It'd be like "if you want to give me money, you have to pay me at least 600$+60$/month, who do you think I am, I'm not accepting just 60$ every single month", that makes no sense, only Karens thinks like that.
So LTE is cool, but I can't say that for the Verizon 5G
Hope this helped

I already knew 5g wasnt going to work but I don't care because Verizon uses mmwave 5g and that's not coming to my area any time soon. I just want to make 100% sure LTE works, right now I'm 90% sure but that IMEI thing has me worried, Verizon only allows approved devices on their network (absolute BS imo, if it supports all your bands it should just work). I don't know if they support only the American OnePlus 8 (IN2015) if so that would suck because hardware wise the IN2015 and IN2013 are virtually identical from what I could find with only a few bands missing from the IN2013 but they don't matter for Verizon

Will flashing a GM1917 rom on a GM1915 make it think its a 1917

Recently got moved to AT&T from tmobile and now AT&T is claiming my device in incompatible because they are opportunistic. I have all but one 3g band and one 4g band so it in theory should work aside from their device whitelist. If I could change the phone to a GM1917 there is a chance the network would accept it.
My phone is already rooted and I can easily flash a new rom but would like to know if doing so would make a difference before I go through that ordeal and loss of data.
Will a rom change what the phone thinks it is or not? Thanks for any help!

No. I have YAAP flashed and it still says GM1915. AT&T probably checks the IMEI and sees it's a GM1915 and denies you VoLTE. You could fool them by changing your IMEI but discussion of that is not allowed and IT IS HIGHLY ILLEGAL, so DO NOT do it.

_LarryM_ said:
Recently got moved to AT&T from tmobile and now AT&T is claiming my device in incompatible because they are opportunistic. I have all but one 3g band and one 4g band so it in theory should work aside from their device whitelist. If I could change the phone to a GM1917 there is a chance the network would accept it.
My phone is already rooted and I can easily flash a new rom but would like to know if doing so would make a difference before I go through that ordeal and loss of data.
Will a rom change what the phone thinks it is or not? Thanks for any help!
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Install official lineage os, my phone became GM1917 after that.

dankovac1999 said:
Install official lineage os, my phone became GM1917 after that.
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How about Evolution X Rom?

thattechguy_69 said:
How about Evolution X Rom?
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It's under poor development, lineage os official build, so you get ota updates and don't have to care about anything.

dankovac1999 said:
It's under poor development, lineage os official build, so you get ota updates and don't have to care about anything.
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Can I see some screenshots of AT&T working on LineageOS GM1915, currently planning to buy this version since its the only popular one on eBay and I am really considering on planning to get the OnePlus 7T since its Unlock versions can be find cheaper or the same price as the GM1915?

thattechguy_69 said:
Can I see some screenshots of AT&T working on LineageOS GM1915, currently planning to buy this version since its the only popular one on eBay and I am really considering on planning to get the OnePlus 7T since its Unlock versions can be find cheaper or the same price as the GM1915?
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I would personally go with 7 Pro since it's slightly better phone and more importantly it seems more popular here in community.

dankovac1999 said:
I would personally go with 7 Pro since it's slightly better phone and more importantly it seems more popular here in community.
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ok, i just hope the sim works

It doesn't matter if the ROM shows a different model if the network doesn't see it that way. You still DON'T get VoLTE. Don't show me an enabled checkbox to prove it. I've been there and it doesn't work.

thattechguy_69 said:
Can I see some screenshots of AT&T working on LineageOS GM1915, currently planning to buy this version since its the only popular one on eBay and I am really considering on planning to get the OnePlus 7T since its Unlock versions can be find cheaper or the same price as the GM1915?
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Do NOT buy the GM1915 if you are using AT&Ts network. You have been warned...

slgooding said:
Do NOT buy the GM1915 if you are using AT&Ts network. You have been warned...
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yeah, i gotchu. im just hoping they add the tmobile version on the whitelist since att added the oneplus 8 tmobile version as whitelisted

thattechguy_69 said:
yeah, i gotchu. im just hoping they add the tmobile version on the whitelist since att added the oneplus 8 tmobile version as whitelisted
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Agreed. I hope they do. It is the same phone... I don't want to have to buy another phone come the new year.

slgooding said:
Agreed. I hope they do. It is the same phone... I don't want to have to buy another phone come the new year.
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lol i bought the oneplus 8 tmobile version and its pretty good