As some of you have been complaining about your Infinity's poor battery life, I thought we should start a thread on getting more out of its battery. I invite you all to share your experiences, hopefully we could come to sth helpful together.
Perhaps when the development's carried on further by more XDA developers, we can split this to stock ROM and custom ROMs, as probably the latter will have more of these already included.
1. Arguably full charge and discharge does nothing good on modern Li-Ion batteries and it's rather advisable to keep it balanced - discharge a little, don't push it with charging all the time (however in case of the Infinity, as with many other devices, the charger will just stop consuming energy after [almost] fully charging your device). There is one reason for doing a few full discharges and charges however - so that the battery monitoring apps/widgets can learn more about your battery's life and power consumption.
2. Monitor your battery life and monitor it wisely (don't use power-consuming apps and widgets). I personally like Battery Monitor Widget, as it gives you mA and % / hour (either drain or charge), which is pretty cool, as you can see how much your usage exhausts your battery in real time. This way I've found out that switching the WiFi off while reading books actually gives me battery drain closer to 10%/h than 15%/h etc. You can see some other in this apps thread. Try different apps and see what fits you best. Don't rely on system battery usage stats, see what other apps show us and what apps and processes drain the most of your battery, show most wakelocks, etc.
3. Use as low power mode as you need (administered most easily through ASUS/Android notification bar on the bottom of your screen). There are three power modes:
power-saving (keeps your CPU at 1 GHz according to some apps, 500 MHz according to others) <- can give you up to 2 additional hours
balanced (keeps your CPU at 1,5 GHz)
normal / performance (keeps your CPU at the highest speed - in stock kernel 1,7 GHz for the 1st core and 1,6 for the others)
You have to try these for yourself. Most games run well on balanced, but may sometimes need the performance mode (keep in mind that overheating your CPU and GPU may cause the clocks to actually slow down). You may also find yourself happy with the power-saving mode, which really helps your battery to last longer, but I've noticed issues with some apps while running it (problems with pdf rendering, for example), as it probably changes more than just the CPU clock speed, but also the system behaviour. I hardly ever leave the balanced mode, mostly when curious about benchmark results
There are also different CPU governors in Android/Linux kernel, which you can change if you are rooted, but perhaps leaving the default "interactive" one on should serve you well (you can also try "conservative", but it has been argued it doesn't save your battery so well in the long run).
(if rooted) You can also use CPU management apps like SetCPU, create your custom profiles or use the default ones according to your needs (for example ).
4. In ASUS setttings switch on both power-saving options at the very bottom of the list (WiFi and dock deep sleep [the former is the same as choosing "never" in WiFi advanced settings]).
5. Keep the screen brightness as low, as you can. It's better to adjust it manually through the notifications bar or a widget than to switch auto-brightness on (some recommend LUX app, personally I had problems with it trying to outsmart me when I was doing some manual changes). I like to keep it around 30-40% indoors during the day and 0-10% at night.
6. Switch WiFi off when you don't need it, unless you need it on constantly.
For me, it sometimes also helps organise my work too, when I don't get constant notifications or when I'm not eager to browse the web all the time, when just reading something and taking notes.
7a) (if rooted) Make your device fall into really deep sleep...
Add these to your build.prop file (see the thread on tweaking):
ro.ril.disable.power.collapse=0
pm.sleep_mode=1
7b) ...and make it scan for available WiFi networks less often, for example every 180 seconds (same as above):
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
8. (if rooted) Switch off all the apps you don't need that auto-start on boot with a program like System Tuner.
(f not rooted) Use auto-killer for the apps you don't need (if rooted you can do the above two together as well).
You can also deactivate unused apps (settings -> apps -> [select app] -> deactivate). Remove bloatware, too (see the first few posts).
9. Adjust your minfree values, so the low level system task killer will take care of the apps running in the background for you (see the thread on tweaking). You can try with different settings and see what's better for you. Some apps drain your battery life even when you don't use them, while others don't and it's better to leave them in the memory than run them all over again every time. Do some tests and see what's best for you, if you have time for it.
10. Switch auto-syncing apps to lower values when possible (sometimes PUSH is better, sometimes worse for your battery life).
11. Keep it simple. Too many funky animations, floating wallpapers, lots of nice widgets will make your battery drain really fast.
12. Try different custom launchers, you can set more UI behaviour rules in these (see this apps thread).
13. Use a dark wallpaper and dark themes / night reading modes (see why).
PS JuiceDefender reported to having disabled deep sleep, so stay away if possible.
Hotmail app has been said to trigger wakelocks, while overriding system wifi sleep when screen is off, so keep that in mind if you want better battery life over constant e-mail syncing.
Hit [THANKS] if it helps.
First of all, thanks to d14b0ll0s for yet another great write up. I am one of those concerned with the battery life of the Infinity. Though some review says it got up to 9-9.5 hours with BALANCED mode I believe is the mistake. By using Power save mode, I think we can potentially get to that level but still hard.
My system is NOT rooted, but I have noticed significant change in my battery life so far with following:
1. Balanced Mode to Power Save mode.
This gets me like extra 2 hours or so. WIthout this change, 5-6 hours for my usage and with this it goes up to 7-8 hours screen time.
2. Under Wi-Fi Setting change Use wifi during sleep mode (mine is in Japanese so exact wording may be different) to never. Default setting was always. Prior to this change, I lost quite bit overnight unplugged; however, after the change it loses negligible amount.
Now rather than these, I am trying to play around with Juice Defender, which was recommended by d14b0ll0s in best application list he created. I have initially downloaded Juice Defender Free edition, and noticed may be minimal gain over #1 already instituted. But concept was great. So I ended up purchasing Ultimate edition, which allows us to control when to turn of WIFI per individual application based without Root i.e. while reading PDF I don't think I need WIFI connection.
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=juice+defender&c=apps.
I am still tweaking and playing with Juice Defender, but I am certain without change in #1,#2 (which are actually taken care by Juice Defender in its own way), I can gain same battery life and my hope/guess is I can get even more battery life.
So in conclusion, for those not rooted try Juice Defender (at least free version). I will let you all know how the ultimate version does in next couple days.
Thanks for this! ^^ Post 1 updated.
Have you noticed what power-saving mode changes apart from CPU (& GPU?) clock speed? Does it change auto-sync settings or unload some modules? I'm not using it, as it is too slow for me to render big pdfs consisting of scanned jpgs. But when I'm reading them with WiFi off on balanced, I normally get 9.9% drain per hour according to Battery Monitor Widget, which even with some other things that I do from time to time and some additional rendering when opening new files should give me about 9 hours on a single charge. Browsing over WiFi gives me about 7.
The Wi-Fi settings you mentioned are the same as WiFi power-saving settings on the bottom of ASUS setting list, but I've clarified that in post 1 now.
I'm happy JuiceDefender helped you, it's good to advertise it here. I'm adding the info about your post apart from the link to the list of apps.
Thanks
I would also add that it's good the deactivate unused apps/widgets (settings -> apps -> "select app" -> deactivate)
it's only possible for apps which cannot be uninstalled
Good point! ^ Added (-> p. 8).
Mine will be here this weekend.
Thanks d14b0ll0s
Look very useful! I'm about to try.
I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
Ali I Hagen said:
I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
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#nice
The system measuring system isn't exact, and early on so are all the indicators, so don't rely on it too heavily. There may be a variance of 1-3% and a lot more in the usage indicators. Try different battery / apps widgets and compare the results.
Anyway, deep sleep is nice indeed. It normally drains about 0.2% (-0,5%) per hour, mine is now 98% after the night off the charger and responding to a few e-mails in bed
Thanks for the info, it's appreciated.
Antutu's Battery Saver worked great on my 101, I'm observing how it will regulate the power drain on my 700. Hopefully it will keep the back of the tab cool as well.
i think the problem is when you have wifi on!
Ali I Hagen said:
I think the standby time is awesome. Wifi off, power save mode enabled and left the tablet over night right after full charged battery w/o dock. After 10h still 100%.
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this is good when you have wifi off. however, when you have the wifi on, it shows 80% wifi and 20% screen consumed by battery. you can stop network access by disabling wifi from Asus customized settings and also in wifi setting, you can keep wifi on during sleep to NEVER. this helps a lot..
Stock battery (usage) stats are not relevant, use other battery apps or widgets for that.
I've heard good things about AnTuTu's bat.sav., but also that it doesn't let you have more insight into what it's actually doing, so JuiceDefender seems a better option in that matter.
d14b0ll0s:
Do you know the specific voltage setting / configurations coming out of the usb line?
Is it 16V and how does it distinguish between 16V and 5V on the single USB cable.
For example does the voltage cable go on different lines for 16V and 5V for the TF700?
Or is it 16/5V dual switchable on the same power cable?
I'm asking this is because there's interest to charge the tablet by using alternative methods such as mobile battery with 16V setting.
If so, then does a DC to USB cable be suffice for the job? Or is the cable wired differently as proprietary ASUS?
Thanks!
Sorry, I wouldn't know that. There some ppl here that are doing some testing with the batteries and hardware, perhaps the_kreature or MartyHulskemper could know something. You should post it as a thread in Q&A too.
Redefined301 said:
d14b0ll0s:
Do you know the specific voltage setting / configurations coming out of the usb line?
Is it 16V and how does it distinguish between 16V and 5V on the single USB cable.
For example does the voltage cable go on different lines for 16V and 5V for the TF700?
Or is it 16/5V dual switchable on the same power cable?
I'm asking this is because there's interest to charge the tablet by using alternative methods such as mobile battery with 16V setting.
If so, then does a DC to USB cable be suffice for the job? Or is the cable wired differently as proprietary ASUS?
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First of all, the charger gives 15V, not 16V. Avoid giving your tablet too much voltage as that can kill it...
Secondly, the included cable is a USB 3.0 cable and therefore has 5 extra pins (you can see them if you look straight into the USB plug). These extra pins are used to get 15V from the charger. I don't know exactly how that works, but I guess the tablet tells the charger it wants 15V over the power lines (same power lines as 5V) rather than the charger giving 15V over these extra pins (because that could be devastating to other USB 3.0 gadgets). This is why the tablet won't charge if you insert an old (USB 1.0 or 2.0) extension cable between the charger and the tablet.
Hey I'm running with wifi on during sleep and I seem to get great battery performance (2% loss over 11 hr standby). No build.pro tweaks so no deep asleep our anything like that. I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten similar performance?
I thought it was interesting because the results were the opposite on my tf300t, and my usage pattern hasn't changed much between the two devices.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
watwat1234 said:
Hey I'm running with wifi on during sleep and I seem to get great battery performance (2% loss over 11 hr standby). No build.pro tweaks so no deep asleep our anything like that. I'm wondering if anyone else has gotten similar performance?
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Same here. Battery life on deep sleep with WLAN is great!
But I think the Infinity needs a lot of power while reading news, tapatalk, Reader HD..
Not more than 4 hours Screen On Time!
And that with balanced mode and 50% brightness.
Any problems with the fifth companion core?
PS: Is there an app which shows the activity of the different cores?
FAbi
Gesendet von meinem ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T mit Tapatalk 2
this is crazy, i got my tablet on monday, used it about 3-4 hours restoring all my apps and signing in to everything, and i havent used it much since but today, i'm still at 76%, havent plugged it in it or docked it. I also forgot to mention my dad played with it a bit also...prob about 1 hour
Hello,
I wanted to get some suggestions on how i can save battery power on my Xyboard 10.1" Verizon LTE tablet mounted on the dash of my car.
Running Android 4.0.4.
It's power is USB hardwired to a 3v plug (done professionally by local shop) that only gets power when i turn my car on.
I'm using Tasker to launch tasks based on it's power state.
USB power off:
- mobile data off
- wifi off
- bluetooth off
- kill app Sirius
- kipp app Poweramp
- go home
- screen off
USB power on:
- wait 1 second
- mobile data on
- wifi on
- bluetooth on
- toggle bluetooth
- toggle bluetooth (to make sure it connects to bluetooth audio receiver attached to car's stereo headunit)
- launch app Sirius
Is there a "super sleep" mode that i can launch from tasker that will shut everything down except for a trickle of the Android OS listening for a wakeup command?
I noticed under Tasker's display actions these 2 options:
- Lock
- System Lock
does anyone know what they do? Will activating these conserve battery power?
I'm basically asking how to put my tablet into the deepest sleep possible, while still allowing it to wakeup with USB charging power on.
many thanks!
Spending such a high percentage of time at 100% battery charge is actually bad for the battery. So, whether or not you run on battery power, you will inevitably notice a decrease in battery life over time.
If you're not going to use your car for an extended period of time, you could power the tablet off, but you probably already knew that.
Do you leave the tablet mounted in the car at all times, or do you take it with you like a cell phone?
(Sorry, I do not know the answers to your questions about Tasker.)
post-mortem said:
Spending such a high percentage of time at 100% battery charge is actually bad for the battery. So, whether or not you run on battery power, you will inevitably notice a decrease in battery life over time.
If you're not going to use your car for an extended period of time, you could power the tablet off, but you probably already knew that.
Do you leave the tablet mounted in the car at all times, or do you take it with you like a cell phone?
(Sorry, I do not know the answers to your questions about Tasker.)
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Interesting point about keeping battery at 100%...makes sense.
i leave the tablet in the car always...the mounting bracket has a keyed lock.
however, even after i turn off data,wifi,gps,etc, i still loose 10% battery over a 12hr period. that's very acceptable.
Do you know of an app that puts the phone/tablet into deep sleep (instead of me using tasker to turn all off)?
chumboy said:
Interesting point about keeping battery at 100%...makes sense.
i leave the tablet in the car always...the mounting bracket has a keyed lock.
however, even after i turn off data,wifi,gps,etc, i still loose 10% battery over a 12hr period. that's very acceptable.
Do you know of an app that puts the phone/tablet into deep sleep (instead of me using tasker to turn all off)?
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improve system Parameters.improve cpu Parameters
onexuan said:
improve system Parameters.improve cpu Parameters
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huh? can you explain more?
I recently noticed after the latest update excessive battery drain as seen in screenshots posted below. I have tried a factory reset and then unlocked bootloader to root and added greenify to try help save my battery. Does anyone have any tips on what else to try?
Have you tried to figure out what the Miscellaneous drain is? At least on my tablet I don't have that category in battery usage.
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Have you tried to figure out what the Miscellaneous drain is? At least on my tablet I don't have that category in battery usage.
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Miscellaneous is android figuring out the rest of the battery stats, it's normal for new devices.
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Miscellaneous is android figuring out the rest of the battery stats, it's normal for new devices.
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If by "new" you mean recently flashed/factory restored, then I'm not sure what to say. Even after flashing a recovery image I've never noticed that category. The only reason why I asked was because I assumed that was what you were referencing as being excessive.
If you were referencing the 24+ hour battery life graph shown in your screenshots, then that seems about right. Unfortunately the tablet has never been known to have stellar battery life unless it's on battery saver 24/7.
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If by "new" you mean recently flashed/factory restored, then I'm not sure what to say. Even after flashing a recovery image I've never noticed that category. The only reason why I asked was because I assumed that was what you were referencing as being excessive.
If you were referencing the 24+ hour battery life graph shown in your screenshots, then that seems about right. Unfortunately the tablet has never been known to have stellar battery life unless it's on battery saver 24/7.
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Seems about right?! He had 7min 2sec screen on time. If thats "about right" to you... you need to RMA your tablet.
Clearly whatever "Miscellaneous" is, is his issue.
mackay508 said:
I recently noticed after the latest update excessive battery drain as seen in screenshots posted below. I have tried a factory reset and then unlocked bootloader to root and added greenify to try help save my battery. Does anyone have any tips on what else to try?
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Ok, so I noticed the very same thing when I got my Shield, I haven't rooted (I had on KitKat to restore some backups, then didn't do it again in Lollipop yet). I contacted Nvidia's service via livechat and got this answer. It did some considerable difference, although I still think it's draining a little too fast, but my old tablet had a pretty strong battery so I was just spoiled by it it seems >.<
So here it goes:
Nvidia Shield Callibration: (this takes a while)
You will have to calibrate the battery for just one time and observe the device battery backup for 2-3days to see the changes.
1: Drain your Shield tablet battery by using it normally until it turns off by itself.
2: Power-on your Shield tablet, if it wakes up and if you see some power left, follow step 1.
3: If Shield tablet is now drained to the point it can't wake up, set the device to charge for 7-8 hours.
The device should remain off when you set it for charging here.
4: Unplug the charger after 7-8hours, power on and wait for the battery charge to drop down to 90-95%.
5: Once the device battery drops down to 90-95%, plug in the charger and charge for one complete hour.
6: Unplug the charger once the device is fully charged.
7: Go to Shield settings > Shield power control > Apps> select optimize all option.
8: Go to Shield settings > Shield power control > system>
• Set the brightness to auto.
• Change the sleep option to 2 minutes of inactivity instead of default 10 minutes inactivity.
• Change the processor mode to either optimized or Battery savings.
• Check the WiFi optimization on.
Observe the device performance and report to us if you are still facing issue with the battery backup..
And then they gave me some tips for better battery life in general, I follow them (mostly) and my battery seems to hold on decently:
1: Always use the Shield tablet charger and not the computer USB ports or any other charger as the power specifications vary from the device to device.
2: In case if the charger is missing, use the back port of the desktop computer to charge the device instead of front port.
3: Always remember to exit the application instead of tapping the home button which will continue to run the application in the background.
4: Restart your Shield tablet at least once in a week. This will refresh the device making it work faster and efficient.
5: Connect the charger only when the battery comes down to 15% and unplug the charger only when it reaches 90% or above. This will reduce the number of charge cycles which will make battery last longer.
6: Use a third party app manager like Clean Master and free the memory at-least once a day to keep the device running faster.
To notice if the battery is fully/optimally charged when the device is off, look for the led indicator next to the charging port. It should be green, indicating it is fully/optimally charged
Hey
First, please read this article:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
TL DR
A Li-Io or Li-Po battery charging cycle like charged to 100%, discharge to 15% and repeat, will have only 300-500 charge/discharge cycles battery lifespan, while a battery charging cycle like charged to 75%, then discharge to 25% and repeat, will get 1,500-2,500 charge/discharge cycles battery lifespan.
I have Samsung laptop, that have application (Samsung Easy Settings), that control charging process. When "BATTERY LIFE EXTENDER" is checked, then charging stops at 80% and will not get higher, and when laptop is constantly connected to wall, then app will let drop battery level 75%, then recharge to 80% again.
I'm using this laptop over 3 years and battery last over 5 hours (time on battery is shorter about 10-15min from "brand-new" state)
So, I'm looking for an android app (for rooted devices), that will stop charging at user predefined level (for example 80%), and cause alert/notification (on discharge), when battery level dropped below user predefined level (for example 25%) - to save battery lifespan.
PS: There is a trend, the newer, high-end devices have built-in batteries, without possibility to replacable (solid smarphone body, hard to open without damage), so that app could make device live longer
PS2: I read about charge control by "/sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled", but this doesn't exist in my ROM (crDroid, CM13 based on i9505)
PS3: The tasker helped me to "detect" charging over 80% (profile AC is ON and Battery level is over 79% -> task "say bla bla bla disconnect Your phone from wall"), but this is only "workaround" and doesn't work at night (You have to wake up and disconnect phone from wall)
Unfortunately this is a Question. This forum is only used to post actual apps.
You have already posted in right place so closing this.
Hi there,
I am a newbie and I have read on different web sites that one have to take care of the mobile device battery to avoid hasty weakening.
For example search on your browser “mobile device battery charging best practices”.
I have some technical hardware questions:
- In the electronic charging module, is there a control to switch ON/OFF by software the power to charge the battery.
- If YES, what is the leakage current when OFF, relatively to the nominal charging current and the device consumption?
- Is it possible to control the charge current by software?
- As the devices have in stock its own battery voltage detection, is the values readable by software. I mean can the developers use them in the ROM?
- To sum up, why there is no charging management in the setting of the custom ROMs? I mean set the current and time by settings in the ROM.
Thank you to share your knowledge.
MrNice said:
Hi there,
I am a newbie and I have read on different web sites that one have to take care of the mobile device battery to avoid hasty weakening.
For example search on your browser “mobile device battery charging best practices”.
I have some technical hardware questions:
- In the electronic charging module, is there a control to switch ON/OFF by software the power to charge the battery.
- If YES, what is the leakage current when OFF, relatively to the nominal charging current and the device consumption?
- Is it possible to control the charge current by software?
- As the devices have in stock its own battery voltage detection, is the values readable by software. I mean can the developers use them in the ROM?
- To sum up, why there is no charging management in the setting of the custom ROMs? I mean set the current and time by settings in the ROM.
Thank you to share your knowledge.
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Maybe my questions are too technical. So other questions:
1- In a good working device, when it beep or lights to ask charge, is the battery at 0% + a bit OR is the battery at 30% + a bit?
2- In a good working device, when it beep or lights to say "charged, please disconnect", is the battery at 100% OR is the battery at 80%?
3- Why should one to disconnect the device after charge? What is the cycle (in time or %) charge/discharge that will damage the battery?
Here a good post that give some info but doesn't answer my questions.