ordering [HK] SM-N9860 Note 20 Snapdragon - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

i heard that this module has some issues with 5G
is it worth ordering? any one had another issue with this sepcific module ? thanks a lot

Different 5G bands. Rootable but LTE mostly.

Brava27 said:
Different 5G bands. Rootable but LTE mostly.
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I find this site useful - not convinced that it is 100% accurate, but it certainly is comprehensive and user-friendly: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/CA

jtOttawa said:
I find this site useful - not convinced that it is 100% accurate, but it certainly is comprehensive and user-friendly: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/CA
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Wow. This site is amazing.

Brava27 said:
Different 5G bands. Rootable but LTE mostly.
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different 5g bands ? i heard that it only support the sub6 band and not mmwave is that right ? thanks for answering

hady27 said:
different 5g bands ? i heard that it only support the sub6 band and not mmwave is that right ? thanks for answering
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Look up your country and the China model of the Note20 Ultra here: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/CA/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra

hady27 said:
different 5g bands ? i heard that it only support the sub6 band and not mmwave is that right ? thanks for answering
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Read posted website above. It shows you which are compatible.

thanks a lot

hady27 said:
i heard that this module has some issues with 5G
is it worth ordering? any one had another issue with this sepcific module ? thanks a lot
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Yes, 5G not working so far. But everything else working great, including carrier aggregation.
I didn't find any other issues with the phone - all is working great and as expected, the phone never heats up (mind you, I am not gaming). Battery life is not great though.
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jtOttawa said:
I find this site useful - not convinced that it is 100% accurate, but it certainly is comprehensive and user-friendly: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/CA
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A very useful website - thanks a lot!
Interestingly, it doesn't show any HK 5G bands...

VirtualWaver said:
Yes, 5G not working so far. But everything else working great, including carrier aggregation.
I didn't find any other issues with the phone - all is working great and as expected, the phone never heats up (mind you, I am not gaming). Battery life is not great though.
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battery life is not great ? in compered to previous phones like note 10+ ? or to others ?
is it worth buying ? i am not a gamer too but i use youtube and whatsapp mainly and i am ording this because in my country they offer exynos 4 g at the same price

That website is Awesome. Apparently even the Korea N20U doesn't support 2G bands in Korea - not that difficult to believe, but still unlikely.

VirtualWaver said:
Yes, 5G not working so far. But everything else working great, including carrier aggregation.
I didn't find any other issues with the phone - all is working great and as expected, the phone never heats up (mind you, I am not gaming). Battery life is not great though.
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A very useful website - thanks a lot!
Interestingly, it doesn't show any HK 5G bands...
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Yes, and I have seen other lists of frequencies that differ slightly so I'm not certain it's 100% accurate, but still fairly comprehensive and user-friendly, so useful as a general (if not necessarily definitive) guide.

hady27 said:
battery life is not great ? in compered to previous phones like note 10+ ? or to others ?
is it worth buying ? i am not a gamer too but i use youtube and whatsapp mainly and i am ording this because in my country they offer exynos 4 g at the same price
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Well I was using S8 before so cannot comment on later models but in comparison with S8 it is not very good so far. For the first time ever I had to enable battery optimisation and download AccuBattery.
Saying this it is definitely better than it was on day 1 though.
But on a good side the super fast charger that comes with it gives it enough juice in just 15 minutes.
Yes, it's definitely a good purchase if 5G is not your priority. I can't fault this device.
Not using WhatsApp much, but for Viber expect around 2-2.5 hours of video calling for full battery discharge.
Background processes do not consume much battery though.

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VoLTE on unlocked version

I have a feeling I know the answer to this, but is there any way to enable VoLTE on the unlocked version, notably on the Rogers network in Canada?
Thanks
DenisEhm said:
I have a feeling I know the answer to this, but is there any way to enable VoLTE on the unlocked version, notably on the Rogers network in Canada?
Thanks
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Only if you have a 4G sim card and your network provider support this on your tariff
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Only if you have a 4G sim card and your network provider support this on your tariff
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Ok thanks. That would be a yes on all of those (as it worked on my GS7 quite well) so is it just an option in the settings? If so I can't find it..?
DenisEhm said:
Ok thanks. That would be a yes on all of those (as it worked on my GS7 quite well) so is it just an option in the settings? If so I can't find it..?
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Settings-->More-->Mobile network-->VoLTE calls. Enable that. If LTE stays connected when making a call you have VoLTE.
kevev said:
Settings-->More-->Mobile network-->VoLTE calls. Enable that. If LTE stays connected when making a call you have VoLTE.
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Thanks but that's what I originally feared: there is no VoLTE option anywhere in there..? I had done a search too and nothing pops up.
Rummaging through the internet, I found an article saying the unlocked version (mine) would NOT have VoLTE. No sure how accurate that was.
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Thanks but that's what I originally feared: there is no VoLTE option anywhere in there..? I had done a search too and nothing pops up.
Rummaging through the internet, I found an article saying the unlocked version (mine) would NOT have VoLTE. No sure how accurate that was.
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Are you connected to Wind by any chance? I don't think that network has volte yet. I think Rogers purchased them.
No, I'm on Rogers and I can confirm I had VoLTE before on my Galaxy S7, so it's neither the network or my account the issue.
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No, I'm on Rogers and I can confirm I had VoLTE before on my Galaxy S7, so it's neither the network or my account the issue.
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Very weird. Maybe ask your carrier to check provisioning for your device. What bands does your carrier use for VoLTE?
it should be supported bu carrier it self , not only the phone ! check with them !
Well after some investigating, I have an answer: Rogers only support VoLTE on Apple, LG and Samsung devices...
This is really unfortunate but it's one last thing missing from the Honor 8 to make it my daily driver. It's an excellent device and I was very impressed for the price tag, but not having wireless charging, VoLTE and 4k video made me realize how much I actually use it.
Thanks for the help guys!
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Well after some investigating, I have an answer: Rogers only support VoLTE on Apple, LG and Samsung devices...
This is really unfortunate but it's one last thing missing from the Honor 8 to make it my daily driver. It's an excellent device and I was very impressed for the price tag, but not having wireless charging, VoLTE and 4k video made me realize how much I actually use it.
Thanks for the help guys!
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Price Tag is Good Comparing With iPhone and Samsung . You Welcome , if u have any other Questions We Will Be happy To help you .,
GD Luck !

Unlocking Band 66/71

Hello,
I haven't posted here in quite some time, but I picked up the Mi Mix 2s (Fantastic device), and the only thing that's missing to make this perfect for me, is the inclusion of Band 71 (600MHz). I've seen on multiple posts about Qualcomm phones having bands unlocked using QDXM and QPST tools. In other tutorials I see that they use an app to calculate the proper NV values, but I can't seem to find one that goes beyond Band 44. Does anyone know of a manual way to calculate this value, or another tool I could use?
Thank you much,
Blimey
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Hello,
I haven't posted here in quite some time, but I picked up the Mi Mix 2s (Fantastic device), and the only thing that's missing to make this perfect for me, is the inclusion of Band 71 (600MHz). I've seen on multiple posts about Qualcomm phones having bands unlocked using QDXM and QPST tools. In other tutorials I see that they use an app to calculate the proper NV values, but I can't seem to find one that goes beyond Band 44. Does anyone know of a manual way to calculate this value, or another tool I could use?
Thank you much,
Blimey
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What app are you using to check current supported bands?
pi4a7a said:
What app are you using to check current supported bands?
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I've used NV calculator and LTE Band Calculator on the Play Store.
I found this video. I can't test it until 2 weeks from now as I just started unlocking process. If you test, please let me know if it works.
Ascertion said:
I found this video. I can't test it until 2 weeks from now as I just started unlocking process. If you test, please let me know if it works.
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By taping Lock bands then LTE all of them are checked, is that how it's supposed to be ?
I also don't have the option LTE Band Append...
pi4a7a said:
By taping Lock bands then LTE all of them are checked, is that how it's supposed to be ?
I also don't have the option LTE Band Append...
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I checked mine on my other rooted device. It looks like they removed the LTE Band Append option sometime between January and now. I sent the dev an email asking for more about this, I'll keep you posted.
If it turns out to be a paid feature, I think the price gouging is ridiculously too high. It's $50/week! But we'll see.
Ascertion said:
I checked mine on my other rooted device. It looks like they removed the LTE Band Append option sometime between January and now. I sent the dev an email asking for more about this, I'll keep you posted.
If it turns out to be a paid feature, I think the price gouging is ridiculously too high. It's $50/week! But we'll see.
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This was their response. I guess we can't use this feature.
HI
This feature is not allowed to access since it’s not safe to mobile phones. Please understand…
Regards

US users on T-Mobile

My F1 Global Version arrived this afternoon. I popped in my T-Mobile SIM and set the phone up. I've been using it for less than an hour.
Good News:
Voice works fine. I made multiple test calls with WiFi off. All sounded great.
Bad News:
So far I've not been able to get a data connection via 4G. It says I have service but pages won't open. I'll play around with it more.
Anyone else on T-Mobile in the US and able to get data?
EDIT: Data seems to be hit-miss. For the last 20 minutes data seems stable.
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
I too am on T-Mo and live in Chicago. Voice sounds great. Same experience with data - the phone shows "4G" but I am getting 3G speeds. I've run Speedtest numerous ties, and I'm consistently getting 10 Mbps down, and a few up. Absolutely adequate for my needs (Spotify, email, etc.). In fact, Spotify runs so much faster than my previous phone, that it is a huge improvement for me. So, I've had the same experience, and for me, as well, 3G is not an issue.
Mike02z said:
After about 10 hours of use, I can confirm that US T-Mobile users cannot get 4G on the F1. Even though it says it has an LTE connection.
Voice and 3G work fine. If you're planning to use this with data on T-Mobile, you might want to look elsewhere. I use mine mostly on WiFi so not a deal breaker for me.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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My Speedtest results are attached. There's some variance, but about 10 Mbps down on 3G. Of note, the Wifi results are crazy, and easily 2x faster than my previously phone (LG V20) on the same exact network. In my experience, at both home and work, the Wifi on the F1 is ridiculously good.
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I agree on the WiFi. I have FIOS gig service I'm getting 400 MB down and 450 up at home on WiFI. with the F1. Better than my S9+ or OnePlus 6
I'm very impressed by the F1. More so than I thought. Just waiting for my unlock code. I have not run into an app yet that has given me an issue. I'll be testing Android Auto later today when I get home. This is truly a nice phone at an amazing price. While no 4G is disappointing, I'm wondering if the band is there, just not turned on. Won't be the first time we have seen that.
Come on development!
Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
kbagrows said:
Thanks for the follow-up. Also, although a little off topic, I'm interested in hearing about your experience with Android Auto. For me, "Ok Google" isn't currently working. I understand that's a Google issue, not a problem with the F1 (I hope). Haven't been able to text in the car, like I usually do, so I'm anxiously awaiting a fix for that!
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Just information "OK Google" command already fixed on miui 10 8.9.11 closed global beta rom,,,
Thanks! Here's hoping the F1 updates to MIUI 10 soon!
Compared to my Mi A1 or Redmi 4X I don't get a LTE symbol here in austria (three), speed is probably mediocre.
Goldeneye185 said:
My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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Weird. Have you reset the phone with the SIM in? Selected USA as country?
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I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
Goldeneye185 said:
I've done everything. I even unlocked the boot loader and still nothing. I downloaded the LTE discovery app and it will connect for 2 minutes then drop. I think it's a software issue. I'm on 9.6 build
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So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
kbagrows said:
So you can't get 2G or 3G? No TMo connectivity at all? Sorry for all the questions - I have a trip to NYC in December, and want to know if I'm going to have a problem!
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I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
Goldeneye185 said:
I get 0 connectivity. No 2g or 3g. Nothing
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I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
Mike02z said:
I assume the SIM works in another phone? If not, could just be a bad SIM. If not, maybe you got a bum phone. I'm 60 miles from NYC and only LTE is not working.
It will be another day before I can test Android Auto. Wife has that car and working late tonight.
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My sim card is fine. It works just fine with my other phones including my new Xiaomi Mi max 3. I'm getting LTE connection. This is why I don't understand why this pocophone won't connect.
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My pocophone will not connect to T-Mobile. I have the correct APN settings and it does not connect. I'm surprised you guys are seeing connectivity. I'm in the new york area
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T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
Ace42 said:
T-Mobile has Band 5 in limited markets (which F1 includes). 2, 4, and 12 are prevalent in NY. My current phone has B5 and I've never seen it connect to that band personally.
As for OP. 4G is probably HSPA (3G) but that's very slow. Can you use Network Signal Guru to confirm signal type?
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My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
Goldeneye185 said:
My phone is not rooted so network signal guru doesn't work. I did however install LTE discovery and that was a failure. The app didn't work because I wasn't connected to T-Mobile network
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My MIUI version: is 9.6.14.0
Model name: M1805E10A
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AK6Pa/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-dual-sim-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...im-td-lte-cn-m1805e10a/t-mobile-united-states
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Same here. Got it yesterday and requested unlock code last night.

Question TMobile (USA) network speed

I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
avetny said:
I don't see 5G icon. But we got LTE+ on TMobile (usa) (VoLTE pre activated)
Download speed is fantastic. Upload is not
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has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
Washo4evr said:
has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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It is at the standard of the H.W not the S.W.
The same questions were asked of the 10 ultra. Some said hard, some software but no one posted any success in opening more bands.
Washo4evr said:
has anyone tried to unlock more bands?
following something like https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...device-use-your-phone-globally-no-bs.2871269/
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Reasonable question man, those replies suck. It has the same modem as the iPhone 13, it's a Snapdragon X65 5G so technically you should be able to. If not in NV, you could in software programming tool of Qualcomm, might have to be the newest software though. If you could identify the modem chip number in a teardown video possibly we could find the product model number and see if it's a hardware limited or base chip limited by firmware.
That makes sense. Back in the day, I had a Zuk Z2 Pro and it worked but haven't had a phone with a snapdragon since.
Thanks Jdorman12 for replying with actual words, not a single emoji
If I end up getting a 12S, I will give it a try

General Real life radio results

I am hoping the radio is much better than the p6p. Has anyone found specs on the radio? Edit: hopefully my title isn't too misleading. Apologies mods
I sent the question into someone with the Tier 2+ Google Support Hardware Pixel team asking "What cellular modem is in the Pixel 7?"
I will post the answer here, if I get one.
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I am hoping the radio is much better than the p6p. Has anyone found specs on the radio? Edit: hopefully my title isn't too misleading. Apologies mods
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Google hasn't offered any info yet, there is just the leak/romour that the P7 Pro will use a new/unannounced Samsung Exynos 5300 modem.
According to
First details of Pixel 7 and Pixel 7 Pro come roaring out: 2nd-gen Tensor, new Samsung modem
9to5Google has uncovered concrete details of the Pixel 7 and 7 Pro, including the devices’ codenames, Tensor chip, and Samsung modem.
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"GS201 chip will feature a – currently unreleased – Samsung modem with the model number “g5300b.” For comparison, the Pixel 6 lists its modem as “g5123b,” which is the Exynos Modem 5123. Given the model number, we believe Google’s second-generation Tensor chip will have the Exynos Modem 5300"
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Since Google doesn't offer any info on their website about the modem, we'll probably have to wait for a teardown/review where the modem either gets read out in software, or someone takes the phone apart and can tell us what's inside.
According to Google online chat with a Tier 2+ support person "Pixel 7 and 7 pro use Samsung Exynos Modem 5300."
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According to Google online chat with a Tier 2+ support person "Pixel 7 and 7 pro use Samsung Exynos Modem 5300."
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The confirmation is great, but that means little since it's an unannounced modem, and we don't have any specs and there are no other phones using that modem to compare it to.
I took a chance that the P7 modem will perform better than my P6 which I am going to trade in.
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The confirmation is great, but that means little since it's an unannounced modem, and we don't have any specs and there are no other phones using that modem to compare it to.
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Agreed. Sadly, trust of the chat level information has been lacking IMHO.
Thx god I read that! Thats the reason why I don't buy a Samsung device here.
There are sightings of the 5300g revision (where as previous leaks had 5300b and f revisions)
The old modems are not that bad but S21 was really bad and 6 and 6 Pro one of the worst.
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The old modems are not that bad but S21 was really bad and 6 and 6 Pro one of the worst.
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So shut off 5G then. It's a battery hog and not needed for 95%+ of us anyway.
To be clear, it's not just Samsung modems that suck with 5G. My Qualcomm X60 in my OnePlus 9 has 5G disabled because of battery drain, data stall, and heat issues as well.
Well, we know it has a "Samsung Exynos Modem 5300g" whatever that means. It's the next rev of the same modem from last year. After the latest updates the 5100 modem was working ok, although 5G battery life was atrocious (which is on par of this 2019ish chipset).
Hopefully the Samsung modem team has improved 5G battery and at least you'll have a working modem that while it's not state of the art, people can't complain too much.
EtherealRemnant said:
So shut off 5G then. It's a battery hog and not needed for 95%+ of us anyway.
To be clear, it's not just Samsung modems that suck with 5G. My Qualcomm X60 in my OnePlus 9 has 5G disabled because of battery drain, data stall, and heat issues as well.
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I use only LTE the last few years cuz we got 5G over DSS which is 4G.
The Pixel 6 Pro has the worst connectivity and reception of any phone I've used
The Pixel 6 Pro has connectivity issues. It goes offline very frequently and doesn't reconnect as quickly as it should, unlike other phones.
www.androidauthority.com
Maybe you wanna read a lil bit
Here we go again
Phone won't stay connected to mobile data for more than a few minutes before disconnecting.
I just got my 7 Pro all set up a couple hours ago. I'm using Straight Talk with a Verizon SIM and I'm having serious mobile network connection issues. It will connect to 5G/LTE for a few minutes, then it will just disconnect and tell me I don't...
forum.xda-developers.com
So I just got my 7 Pro and I checked my signal strength compared to my 6 Pro with the same sim card in the same spot. What I can say is this. The 7 seems to have a much more stable connection. I watched the signal strength for about a minute and I saw the 6 bounce around from -107 to -112 dBm. The 7 consistently stayed at -107dBm. Can't really tell if there's any difference in real world usage yet but these are the findings I have so far.
So its not that bad which is still bad :/
They are using old Samsung's modem what do you expect? They gotta cut some corners to make it an affordable phone.
hello00 said:
They are using old Samsung's modem what do you expect? They gotta cut some corners to make it an affordable phone.
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They are using Samsung's newest modem...
EtherealRemnant said:
They are using Samsung's newest modem...
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Still old compared to the Snapdragon X65
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Still old compared to the Snapdragon X65
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it's also old compared to the Snapdragon X100000

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