Sync (data?) OFF when screen is off - Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra Questions & Answers

* Often when I work the mobile is at my desk but I still comunicate by sending SMS and using Whatsapp in my webbrowser. Works fine with Samsung and Huawei but with my new Mi10 Ultra id does not work. Connection is lost and I have to tuch some key on the phone to light up the screen and then it syncronizes.
I have set permissions for the apps to allow both autostart and not affected by the battery saver in the system.
I have also set the "data usage" for the apps to allow background data.
...but still, background data for SMS and whatsapp IS deactivated until I light up the screen.
Has anyone run into this problem? Is there any general (mayor) switch for this that I have missed?

This happens to me with Gmail. Sometimes they come in on the lockscreen and sometimes I have to turn the phone on for them to appear. I still have this problem on my Samsung S20 Ultra but I learned to live with it since I never figured out what the problem was. I have no such problems with my SMS or WhatsApp though. Everything else for me seems to be coming through.

tusenkonstnar said:
* Often when I work the mobile is at my desk but I still comunicate by sending SMS and using Whatsapp in my webbrowser. Works fine with Samsung and Huawei but with my new Mi10 Ultra id does not work. Connection is lost and I have to tuch some key on the phone to light up the screen and then it syncronizes.
I have set permissions for the apps to allow both autostart and not affected by the battery saver in the system.
I have also set the "data usage" for the apps to allow background data.
...but still, background data for SMS and whatsapp IS deactivated until I light up the screen.
Has anyone run into this problem? Is there any general (mayor) switch for this that I have missed?
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Hi there. I pretty much have the same problem with this phone. If it's not permissions nor background data, it's the power saving feature, which is the most aggressive I've seen yet.
I was talking with someone about this in another thread, but I was instructed to turn off battery saver. It got better for a day, but it kind of returned back the way it was. I think you could try and play around with the power saving settings for the apps you want immediate notifications from, which I haven't had time to do. Please let me know how it goes for you and I'll find time to play with it this weekend.

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Auto/background sync stops after battery dies

I've noticed that once phone is powered off/on after shutting down with battery dead that neither automatic sync nor background sync happens despite being ticked. I have to cycle the setting to kick it into life. Anyone else seen that?
WibblyW said:
I've noticed that once phone is powered off/on after shutting down with battery dead that neither automatic sync nor background sync happens despite being ticked. I have to cycle the setting to kick it into life. Anyone else seen that?
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Are you sure that this simply isn't they power save feature kicking in?
This can be configured using various settings from within
Settings > Power > Power save
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App
Power save works fine when the battery gets below 15% (in my case). The problem is it doesn't seem to come out of power save mode properly on its own when the phone has power in it again. I find the background and auto sync settings have been reticked, but they don't seem to be effective until I un-tick/re-tick them manually.
WibblyW said:
Power save works fine when the battery gets below 15% (in my case). The problem is it doesn't seem to come out of power save mode properly on its own when the phone has power in it again. I find the background and auto sync settings have been reticked, but they don't seem to be effective until I un-tick/re-tick them manually.
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Oh, must admit that I have not noticed this, although I do use tasker application to enable and then disable my various radios and sync settings based on time in order to save battery
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This is happening on my Desire S too.
Have you found a solution as of yet?
frosticus said:
This is happening on my Desire S too.
Have you found a solution as of yet?
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Nope. There's a LOT about the Desire S that kinda half works properly. I find its implementation really kind of sloppy. Definitely NOT a phone I go round recommending to anyone.
To ben_pyett's comment I considered Tasker. Apart from the fact that there are lots of comments that some of it's functionality is broken in 2.3 because Google messed with their APIs, when I thought about it I was pricipally going to get it to try and fix/work around all the stuff that doesn't work well in the Desire S, rather than add functionaliy. E.g.
- Auto display brightness always has the brightness too high (esp in dim ambient light) and there's no way to adjust its 'gain'
- Cycling Buetooth and WiFi and GPS availability (using various strategies based on location and time) only to mitigate poor battery life in the standard product
- Getting it to out of power save mode properly
- Stopping it making the SMS received notification noise when it was just receiving a txt delivery receipt
Sadly there's other stuff Tasker can't 'fix'.
I find myself rebooting the phone manually every two or three days when it begins to exhibit weird behaviour. It might be crashing and rebooting between those times too. I used to have a SIM PIN activated, but it would prompt for that before allowing me to even get calls after a crash, so I missed important calls before I noticed it was in that state. Now with the SIM PIN disabled it might still be crashing but I don't spot it at least.
I was a Blackberry user for years, and should never have changed. At least the BB was stable and all its features seemed to work properly (and had excellent battery life even with WiFi and Bluetooth on 24/7). I though the extra Google integration with Android was attractive and would be worth it. How wrong I was. :-(

[Q] Z3 Dual D6633 + Lollipop: from heaven to Hell

Sony xperia Z3 Dual D6633 Android 5.0.2 Build 23.1.1.E.0.1
Hi there,
Upgraded my Z3 to lollipop last week and, despite the fact that the upgrade itself was flawless, I think I went from a device that used to work like a charm to one full of annoyances.
On day #1, noticed the batt drain skyrocket. 3h after disconnecting it, it was at 68%, half way through the morning. WTF? was my first thought. On a typical day on kitkat, I was able to end the day at 40% at least.
The second thing I´ve noticed was the phone app. It starts giving me errors, saying that the "network could not be reached" when I try to dial a number. If I insist for 4, 5 more times, it crashes. Dialing is only possible again if I reset the phone.
The third thing is the lock screen. It seems that lollipop has a drop down menu that makes it possible to enable/disable lots of things, like communications and even setting the phone in airplane mode. Imho that´s a huge liability / security risk and it appears that there is no way around that.
Still about the lock screen, it seems to have a bug: if you have any activesync account setup, not notifications will show up, no matter how you configure it (to show all or hide sensitive content).
So, I had only one thing to do, after reading forums etc... factory reseting it.
Surprise! All problems are still there.
Does any1 have any tips on those?
Thanks in advance.
There will be a widget on one of the screens which keeps refreshing itself and I found that to be the battery killer on my 6603.
Did you use any specific app to pinpoint the culprit?
1. It is possible that the battery levels are calibrating and will be imprecise for a while after the update, using the device normally for a couple of days will fix it, or at least this is what I observed in many phones I owned.
2. This is very weird and I can't help you with. If not even factory reset did help you may have some corrupted data on one of your contacts maybe? Try to make a thread about this issue on the Sony forum.
3. I noticed that as well, but even on pervious versions you could turn off the phone so I don't think it changes anything. Make sure to disable the multi user options that would allowanyone to add a new user from the lock screen.
4. Another weird thing, I use exchange accounts on my phone and I don't have any problem on mine. See point 2.
Under
settings>sound and notifications>when device is locked
Set to hide sensitive notification content or don't show notification content at all.
This should fix lock screen displaying email notifications from your exchange account.
Also, unlock phone, pull down notifications, pull down again to reveal quick settings, hit the edit button (pencil) and remove icons but clicking and holding and drawing them to the top. Unfortunately this removes them even when phone is unlocked but of your worried about unauthorised toggling of things on off its the best you can do I think.
As for battery drain, check the battery usage in
Settings>power management
Make sure stamina mode is on, toggle it off then on to make sure.
Select battery usage and check to see if any apps are using more than they should. Make sure brightness is set low but enable adaptive brightness under display settings.
ozzy lion said:
Under
settings>sound and notifications>when device is locked
Set to hide sensitive notification content or don't show notification content at all.
This should fix lock screen displaying email notifications from your exchange account.
Also, unlock phone, pull down notifications, pull down again to reveal quick settings, hit the edit button (pencil) and remove icons but clicking and holding and drawing them to the top. Unfortunately this removes them even when phone is unlocked but of your worried about unauthorised toggling of things on off its the best you can do I think.
As for battery drain, check the battery usage in
Settings>power management
Make sure stamina mode is on, toggle it off then on to make sure.
Select battery usage and check to see if any apps are using more than they should. Make sure brightness is set low but enable adaptive brightness under display settings.
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That's not a smartphone anymore, with all functions shut down and brightness low.
This phone has the best screen, use it at least 50% brightness.
I have no issues with the brightness down. It bumps up nicely in brighter conditions and will even max out in daylight. If I ever need it brighter then it's easy to boost temporarily. It's a small price to pay for nearly 24 hours of battery with 5 hours screen on time.
I never mentioned shutting down functions. The only thing I mentioned removing was the toggles that concerned the op on the quick settings. Removing mobile data and aeroplane mode from quick settings hardly cripples the device, I never use these anyway.
I don't think it very useful that there's not more customisation available here such as a complete set of separate lockscreen settings. But if all you can do is comprise then what else can you suggest?
I don't think unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom ROM is something the op wants to do.
ozzy lion said:
I have no issues with the brightness down. It bumps up nicely in brighter conditions and will even max out in daylight. If I ever need it brighter then it's easy to boost temporarily. It's a small price to pay for nearly 24 hours of battery with 5 hours screen on time.
I never mentioned shutting down functions. The only thing I mentioned removing was the toggles that concerned the op on the quick settings. Removing mobile data and aeroplane mode from quick settings hardly cripples the device, I never use these anyway.
I don't think it very useful that there's not more customisation available here such as a complete set of separate lockscreen settings. But if all you can do is comprise then what else can you suggest?
I don't think unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom ROM is something the op wants to do.
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You said stamina.
Stamina means already some functions off.
Update:
1. Batt drain
Remains without an explanation. My daily use profile is basically the same as before the update. 3PM and I am at 28%, with stamina on. I can´t recall a day, running kitkat, that I would hit the charger at night with 28% of batt remaining (and I still have 4h to go). It was always on 40% ish. GSAM is reporting that 47% of the batt drain is caused by apps and, from that, 30% is represented by android core apps + android system + kernel. I might be wrong, but I think it is related to reindexing, contact + agenda sync etc and it will probably get lower eventually (I hope!)
2. Phone App giving errors
I think I have isolated the problem. It seems to be caused by TrueCaller.
3. Lock screen
Regarding the drop down menu, It is clear now that what I think is a problem is, in fact, by design and there is no way around it without rooting. But regarding the notifications, I just removed both activesync accounts and I started getting notifications in the lock screen again. So, my guess is that there is a policy of some sort that is being interpreted by the phone as it should hide all notifications from the lock screen.
In fact, there are lots of things that got blocked / disabled because of those policies. Here is a list of things that were disabled and now appear to be working again, after the removal of the activesync accounts:
. notifications are showing again in the lock screen;
. smart lock;
. screen lock options (none, swipe, pattern);
note: I thought that I would be able to enable services in Accessibility, like LastPass or App Advisor by Norton, but it still does not work (I try to enable any of them, but pressing "ok" on the warning dialog does nothing and the only option working is "cancel").
Thinking about resetting it again...
Hi, if problems are persistant you can always downgrad software at KitKat by using FlashTool and wait Lollipop 5.1 (5.1 will probably solve many problems).
StealthNet said:
Update:
1. Batt drain
Remains without an explanation. My daily use profile is basically the same as before the update. 3PM and I am at 28%, with stamina on. I can´t recall a day, running kitkat, that I would hit the charger at night with 28% of batt remaining (and I still have 4h to go). It was always on 40% ish. GSAM is reporting that 47% of the batt drain is caused by apps and, from that, 30% is represented by android core apps + android system + kernel. I might be wrong, but I think it is related to reindexing, contact + agenda sync etc and it will probably get lower eventually (I hope!)
2. Phone App giving errors
I think I have isolated the problem. It seems to be caused by TrueCaller.
3. Lock screen
Regarding the drop down menu, It is clear now that what I think is a problem is, in fact, by design and there is no way around it without rooting. But regarding the notifications, I just removed both activesync accounts and I started getting notifications in the lock screen again. So, my guess is that there is a policy of some sort that is being interpreted by the phone as it should hide all notifications from the lock screen.
In fact, there are lots of things that got blocked / disabled because of those policies. Here is a list of things that were disabled and now appear to be working again, after the removal of the activesync accounts:
. notifications are showing again in the lock screen;
. smart lock;
. screen lock options (none, swipe, pattern);
note: I thought that I would be able to enable services in Accessibility, like LastPass or App Advisor by Norton, but it still does not work (I try to enable any of them, but pressing "ok" on the warning dialog does nothing and the only option working is "cancel").
Thinking about resetting it again...
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A new firmware version has dropped for the Z3 which I think fixes your issues with notifications.
I received it OTA yesterday, I'm running the Balkans customisation.
Thank you for the tip! I hope it does! Will keep it posted here just for the reference. I am starting to feel other "symptoms" as well, like bluetooth instability (you pair a device and it stops working, have to pair again).
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Just hit another weird thing.
I am not being able to create a new vpn connection. I am trying to use the PureVPN and IPVanish client software, but when I try to setup the conection, I receive a disclaimer, saying that my traffic might be monitored, with a "CANCEL" and "OK" options. The OK doesn´t work, only "CANCEL".
My device is encrypted and I have also noticed that I am not able to decrypt it.
Also, If I go to Accessibility and try to enable a service, the same thing happens: a disclaimer appears, saying that the service might observe my actions, with a "CANCEL" and "OK" options. The OK doesn´t work, only "CANCEL".
Any ideas?
Ok, just a quick fup: the ability to create VPNs from apps is disabled if you encrypt the phone. It seems that if you create if before encrypting, it won´t be disabled; but you wont be able to create a new vpn from an app downloaded, after encryption.
Regarding the Accessibility > Services, after a *lot* of research, I have found that Twilight was the culprit. For the reference:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79637

Real-time notifications

Hello. I'm sure this has been asked bunch of times, but whenever I google it, I get opposite results.
So.. I want my phone not to save battery. Like.. I want my notifications to come through instantly. Now only few apps are capable of doing that (calls, messages, alarm clock). But all other apps - like gmail, skype or FB Messenger are not. I only receive notifications when I wake up my device (or when someone starts spamming me messages, after like 5th message they come through, so I guess phone is receiving those messages, just not putting them through). Whenever I google solutions for this, I only get tips on how to make it worse (because for some reason everyone just want to save their batteries) or nothing that actually worked.
What I have done so far:
Battery optimization - off for every single application (even system).
Background activity manager - looks off (there is no toggle, only the 'blacklist', which is off).
Background activity cleaner - off.
Every app has 'Urgent' notification importance.
Phone is not rooted (nor it can be.. stupid Nokia policy). Android 8.1. Nokia 5.
Battery power saver - off (obviously).
Looks like I have data saving modes turned off (I might have missed some, but I only do not get notifications while device is sleeping).
Factory reset (multiple times (for various reasons)). I never received real-time notifications on this phone while it's sleeping.
I contacted Nokia support team, but they took 30 minutes to tell me to reboot the phone, so decided not to wait another half an hour to tell me to clear apps' cache.
I saw that with ADB I could turn off doze, but as I understood, it's temporary as restarting the phone brings this 'feature' back, but I have to restart this phone every day or two due to not a huge amount of RAM (2GB) as it fills up with trash and restarting the phone brings me the best performance, so it's really not a great option. Edit: also, it didn't help
I guess it's a manufacturer specific problem then? ;s

Delayed notification for Whatsapp, Signal, G Voice

This post was originally posted in Moto G5s Plus forum, but I thought/hope to get broader exposure and feedbacks:
I did extensive search and found no fix so far.
Problem: if my phone is locked for maybe 10min, then it will not display notification for incoming Signal, Whatsapp and Google Voice messages, until I unlock the screen and run the apps. In other words, I will not get notified of new messages if the phone is locked for over 10 minutes.
Native Messenger app is not affected, it displays incoming message right away. Gmail is good too.
I do not use Wifi, it is turned OFF. I am on Data 100% with T-Mobile. Stock ROM, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I have done "Battery Not Optimized", "unrestricted data", Battery saving mode is set Never, and there is no battery saving apps installed such as Greenify etc.
I have removed and reinstalled these apps from Play store, cleared data and cache, the whole 9 yards.
Still stuck with delayed notification.
Anyone with suggestions?
Thanks,
clu1688 said:
This post was originally posted in Moto G5s Plus forum, but I thought/hope to get broader exposure and feedbacks:
I did extensive search and found no fix so far.
Problem: if my phone is locked for maybe 10min, then it will not display notification for incoming Signal, Whatsapp and Google Voice messages, until I unlock the screen and run the apps. In other words, I will not get notified of new messages if the phone is locked for over 10 minutes.
Native Messenger app is not affected, it displays incoming message right away. Gmail is good too.
I do not use Wifi, it is turned OFF. I am on Data 100% with T-Mobile. Stock ROM, rooted with Magisk and TWRP.
I have done "Battery Not Optimized", "unrestricted data", Battery saving mode is set Never, and there is no battery saving apps installed such as Greenify etc.
I have removed and reinstalled these apps from Play store, cleared data and cache, the whole 9 yards.
Still stuck with delayed notification.
Anyone with suggestions?
Thanks,
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It's probably caused by a wakelock that triggers after the screen is off for a set amount of time. Or maybe your device has a deep sleep mode that is triggered after a certain time with screen off.
Use Wakelock detector to identify the wakelocks on your device, then research the wakelocks that you find to see if any of them might be the cause of this issue. If you find a wakelock that is causing this, try using an app that can manage wakelocks to enable/disable the wakelock(s) as needed in order to get it working the way you want/need.
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Delayed notifications until I check my phone

Hello,
I recently purchased the pixel 3, I've had it for less than a month. I couldn't resist the $300 off, and my OnePlus 3T was starting to show signs of it's age
One reason I switched was hoping notifications would be more reliable and on time, since I've read OnePlus severely restricts background services, and I would always get delayed notifications, even when I was using the phone!
But now with the pixel 3, if I'm away from my phone for a while, I won't get nearly any notifications, then when I go to check my phone just to see if I missed something, when I turn the screen on, immediately the notifications come in, and in one app for work, when I open the notification it tells me that the job is already gone. That's one way I know the notification was actually sent out waaaaay earlier
I've seen this before on the OnePlus, and I've read about it a lot, I think it has something to do with doze mode. On the OnePlus it was really easy to turn off doze mode(though OnePlus is so bad at this that I wonder if turning it off did anything), but that was Android Oreo and oxygen os. I can't even find a switch for doze mode in Android pie. It's not in developer settings, the closest thing I could find was adaptive battery, which is off. And I already set those important apps to have battery optimization disabled. Yet this keeps happening, as if doze mode is running on everything.
How do I turn off doze mode?? Or what can I do to get my notifications on time?? The work app I use heavily relies on that Google/firebase cloud messaging thing, and if I don't get notifications for new jobs on time, I pretty much miss out on a whole bunch of work.
Got any ideas?? Please help
Have you tried disabling Battery Optimisation for the apps which notifications are delayed?
For Android Pie it's in Settings > Apps & Notifications > Advanced > Special app access > Battery Optimisation, then change the filter to All apps and disable optimisation for each app you want to.
Turning off battery optimization doesn't do a thing. Notifications are always delayed for an app like Gmail, even after battery optimization are turned off.
Fille84 said:
Turning off battery optimization doesn't do a thing. Notifications are always delayed for an app like Gmail, even after battery optimization are turned off.
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I have seen that happen especially when installing from a TB restore. Go into the app and disable notifications, and then re-enable them. If that doesn't work, delete and add the app back from the Play Store. That has worked for me in the past.
Fille84 said:
Turning off battery optimization doesn't do a thing. Notifications are always delayed for an app like Gmail, even after battery optimization are turned off.
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I never had to turn off battery optimization to have instant notifications for Gmail maybe check @sliding_billy 's tips
sliding_billy said:
I have seen that happen especially when installing from a TB restore. Go into the app and disable notifications, and then re-enable them. If that doesn't work, delete and add the app back from the Play Store. That has worked for me in the past.
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I will try that, even though I believe I've tried that before. I Started to use Outlook instead that gives me instant notifications.
Fille84 said:
I will try that, even though I believe I've tried that before. I Started to use Outlook instead that gives me instant notifications.
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Yeah, the new Outlook app is damn good. I don't use it for other accounts, but I use it for my outlook.com account that I have had literally since Microsoft launched Hotmail. Now that the Activesync works on the deleted folder (which it didn't for a long time), I rarely use my Gmail account for anything not coming from Google.
bafforosso said:
Have you tried disabling Battery Optimisation for the apps which notifications are delayed?
For Android Pie it's in Settings > Apps & Notifications > Advanced > Special app access > Battery Optimisation, then change the filter to All apps and disable optimisation for each app you want to.
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Yes I mentioned this in my post.
Fille84 said:
Turning off battery optimization doesn't do a thing. Notifications are always delayed for an app like Gmail, even after battery optimization are turned off.
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Yeah it seems battery optimization toggles are useless
sliding_billy said:
I have seen that happen especially when installing from a TB restore. Go into the app and disable notifications, and then re-enable them. If that doesn't work, delete and add the app back from the Play Store. That has worked for me in the past.
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I've tried this before but it doesn't help. Something within Android is messing up the notifications really badly. It's like it's putting Android into a really deep sleep, and maybe the notifications are being received, but the system is not waking up the phone to tell you,
so they just linger around until you check your phone, only when you check the phone does the system all of sudden tell you that notifications had been received. It's so annoying!
Does this method still work on Android 10?
https://youtu.be/SB3-k-3Cem4
Any chance you have flip to shh on? Do not disturb when face down?
Do notifications come in with screen on?
I'm on my second pixel 3 (first one warrantied after it stopped charging randomly) and neither gave me trouble with notifications.
My dad disabled notifications rather than just dismissing them when I got him his first smart phone last year, but it sounds like you're a lot more savvy than that.
Someone mentioned a titanium backup, which I was happy to do on my op3, but part of the appeal to me of the pixel was a totally clean and Google-managed backup process. Are you on a stock install?
Any chance you are using a MVNO? I went years on a MVNO with no push/sync issues. Over the last year I developed notification issues. I switched multiple phones & carriers, the only way I could fix delayed notifications was to switch to a real carrier, that or use WiFi.
Turn off developer mode. It worked for me.

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