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There aren't any general posts on using the device, so here are a few points that resonate with me after a couple weeks of using the device.
I'm using the 8x on Bell in Canada, the blue version. Prior to buying the 8x I was using a Galaxy s3. I've used other WP in the past, so the OS is not totally new to me (Focus, Lumia 800). You could go to any of the major tech sites for a comprehensive review, that's not my intention with this post.
Industrial Design/Durability - A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds...it's absolutely lovely. The polycarbonate is fantastic for daily use and regular wear and tear. I regularly have the device in my jacket pocket with keys and not a mark on it. None of the little micro scratches that are present on any other phone, particularly with glossy surfaces. I do worry about getting a big scratch, I anticipate it will be more devastating to this material. I do worry that this thing will crumble if I drop it on a hard surface. It would probably fare just fine, but there is a sense that it is fragile and delicate. I also have a major beef about the design of the buttons...gets a section all its own.
Build Quality - At first I thought the build quality was great. But now after 2 weeks of use it has developed some occasional flex and creakiness. This is particularly evident when squeezing the device on the sides, something I do more often in my struggle to press the power/lock button. I still thing the build is very good, but it feels less solid in the hand when I feel it creak.
Usability of Buttons - I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless. I somehow thought I could get used to the power button, but not the case. First, the power button placement is less than ideal. This phone is too tall to have it on the top, I can't reach it without repositioning my hand. A user should be able to easily go from one-handed use to locking the phone. Second, there is no play or feedback in the buttons. They are so squishy and unresponsive its like I'm using a crap KIRF device. The power/lock button is the absolute worst, between the position of the button (in relation to the curvature of the plastic) and the lack of play, the power/lock button is nearly impossible to press. I seriously take 2-3 presses before I get it, when in a hurry even more times. The volume buttons are not nearly as annoying, but still useless. When I'm on a call with my headset and the phone is in the pocket, you can't just put your hand in the pocket and adjust the volume...gotta take it out to make sure you are actually pressing a button. Everytime, I feel the need to look at my phone when adjusting the volume, there is no other feedback that you've pressed the buttons. The camera button is great! The first press (of the 2-stage button) is exactly how every single button should feel like. It seems crazy, but this is the single reason that I cannot use the 8x as a long term phone. It's going for sale.
Screen - This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad.
Windows Phone 8 - I absolutely love the design of WP8. There are some gaps and oddities throughout, but I have faith that it will improve. Oddities include: lack of persistent clock and signal indicators (disappears even in People hub and Explorer), lack of independent volume controls (Alarm is cranked all the time). Once I get a proper Dropbox app, I'll be fairly happy. I'm willing to live with a developing OS and ecosystem because of the joy the interface brings me!
Bottom Line - I'm selling it and buying an unlocked Lumia 920. I cannot use a phone with a useless lock button. I've gone back to Bell and tried other devices and all the 8x are the same. Honestly, how can HTC screw up buttons. Samsung tends to have soft buttons too, but at least the placement is on the side for easy access. The Nokia, Apple and LG have figured out the complex world of buttons.
Anyways. This is a wonderful device with a small fatal flaw.
I sadly have to agree on the lock button placement - its placement is less than ideal. I'm not really fussed about the keys being almost flush with the body, but I can imagine people not liking this. It took me a while to get used to the feel myself, but after some practice I only have some trouble with pressing the lock button sometimes.
Its interesting you say that there is no feedback when pressing the buttons? I can definitly feel a "click" when I press my buttons (like the camera button does) so maybe you got unlucky... And I've no flex nor creakyness. I have had the phone for three weeks now I believe, no case used so far!
The only thing I regret is the lack of a SD slot. I'm not sure about the viewing angles, I don't see any problem, nor have I heard friends complain about it. Then again, this is a personal opinion I guess.
But bottom line is that I should have waited for a Nokia myself. Not going to sell this baby, I love it too much for that, but I will gladly get myself a Nokia after this phone is through (which I hope won't happen anytime soon!).
its funny, at first my impression was this.. but now it feels more natural, you actually don't have to hit it to hard, and after having a samsung for a year its refreshing to have a different layout. its almost like a pressure spot, like a place to squeeze the phone and it turns on (if that makes sense) the only thing that bugs me is all three buttons react differently. the lock is more flush than volume, and the camera being a double action is better.
I don't get what you are saying about viewing angle though. I find it more than sufficient (maybe under high glare light cause of the contour) but I love this phone.
my biggest complaint is the notification light that isn't. who puts an led in a phone but does not let it work for notifications.. this is like having a car without windows.. not needed but when it rains you wish you had em'
The power button issue was solved for me by using a case, it has an indent so I immediately know where the power button is. Side buttons have a raised material that also makes it very easy to find the buttons and press without issue.
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uhhdoug, you make a good point about "squeeze" points rather than typical button pushing. I find I do this, basically wrap my finger around the top right and squeeze...usually powering it on.
This device is absolutely lovely otherwise, I could never put it in a case. But usability sucks.
After 1 week... My volume up button is stuck. Not physically, the button still clicks. However, the phone keeps detecting a volume up command. Sending for repair today. Lets see how efficient HTC is.
Same here - power button is a pain in the ass!!! I manage to activate it 1 out of 10 times when using only one hand
I realised that it's easier to use the camera button to bring the screen on and that's what I'm doing since last week.
I've been using mine (a blue one on Telenor, Hungary) for only 3 days so far, but here's my exeperience anyway: the power button doesn't bother me that much, it reminds me of my iPhone 3G I had a few years ago - I do have big hands though. Coming from an Omnia 7 I really like that I don't mistake the volume rocker for the power button (this was a major pain in the butt where I accidentally turned on the screen in my pocket when trying to change the volume).
Compared to the amoled in the Samsung the blacks and the viewing angles kinda suck, but the resolution makes up for them imo.
I see no discolouring/dirt on the corners, but I did get a few random reboots already (still more reliable than my Galaxy Tab with Cyanogen Mod 10 though).
For those interested in the audio quality the 8X sounds awesome with a pair of mid-range cans (Sennheiser HD518), I'd say on par if not better than a last-gen iPod classic. Turning the Beats Eq on the volume goes up to insane levels (20/30 on a subway is perfectly audible with open-back headphones and 30/30 actually hurts my ears after a minute or so). So, while this is by no means in audiophile territory, it is, in my opinion, more than enough for listening on the go.
Also, the device is absolutely gorgeus to look at and feels great in the hand. Oh, and WP8 is beyond awesome
After 1 week i can say is that the phone is great if you ask me.
Power button .....yes bad place.
16G storage .......meh it will manage.
The majority of the good from this phone makes up for those 2 issues.
So no deal breaker here.
Battery ?
Charge ,charge and charge .
After 1 week on the charger and it will preform great.
And i listing more then 4 hours of music, check the web, Facebook and twitter and so on.
At the end of my work day 50% left.
Nothing wrong with that because my one x drained faster ( Stock).
Greetz.
i agree about the power button its struggle, HTC did it even worse on their verizon DNA, not only that the DNA is even taller they placed the power button in the top middle
we have an awesome kernel fix for the One X which is sweep2wake (you sweep the three touch button) an amazing solution we proposed to HTC lets hope they adopt in their upcoming phones
also comparing to my One X, i love the screen but im gutted the view angles are not match, the One X has an amazing screen where the "floating" can be viewed from the most extreme angles without loosing one percent on the blacks, i'm disappointed but its definitely a downgrade form the One X
I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
Diztronic TPU case was a godsend for finding the power button.
Volume and camera buttons are covered but line up ok and cant really tell. Tight fit, thin ,very little added bulk and only makes the phone loose about 1/2 a sexy point. Makes you feel a little better about manhandling this purdy phone too.
I loved mine in some ways but had to return it after a week or so.
It did not pay well with Bluetooth at all..I had problems with my 2011 Corolla and a 2012 Buick Verano. Voice quality was horrible on the Corolla, and music played in slow motion on the Verano.
I also had consistent issues with Netflix and sound problems.
So many apps were missing from the app store...resco radio and most streaming radio apps, and Oregon Trail.
Worst of all is what they did to bing maps. It would was a good and comprehensive feature before that I often used...but it had been neutered and rendered basically useless. I had to pay for Verizon navigation.
I didn't even try syncing my extensive zune collection. So I regretfully went to Android again after having several windows phones . Which is sad because I absolutely love windows phone.
The screen was great, it felt super premium in hand, so many features are beautiful and useful, and best of all no lag! I miss it alot. I loved the previous integration with my zune collection. Did I say the screen was gorgeous lol.
And the Nokia 920 was far too bulky and heavy .
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Well, I officially sold my 8x.
Pains me a little, the overall industrial design was fantastic. WP8 is so refreshing to use and look at.
But, the power button was terrible. Used a couple of devices, all the same. The screen was nice compared to old windows phones, but not compared to other high end phones. I'm on the Nexus 4 now and the screen is superior.
The OS is severely handicapped. I want it to be awesome, but it just is not there yet. I could not be as productive with it. It feels like a step up from a blackberry, but you can't quite do what you need, especially from a productivity standpoint. The OS is fluid, but terribly inefficient. Constant swirling of animations, I just want to get to the app. Multi-tasking is worse than any other smartphone OS and will be worse than BB10 when it ships. Notifications are non-existent. Sure, notifications are coming, but they aren't here now. This doesn't even mention the "app-gap". All these flaws feel larger than life when I wake up to the WP8 alarm in the morning...blaring at full volume because you cannot adjust it.
It is too bad, the 8x is gorgeous. I look forward to trying WP again in the future...
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I worry that eventually all blue 8x will discolor in the corners and that's what's deterring me from this phone
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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The same thing happened to mine. I was forced to get a case for it. Pretty horrible engineering design on HTC's part.
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Its quite bad that you guys are having so many problems with the 8x. I had initial problems with figuring out the buttons but now its more of a muscle memory kind of thing, after you get used to the fact that the finger has to glide by the front of the phone rather than the back of the phone.
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosphy ...
5 days having 8x - great device - but complete change in your files philosophy ...
Migrated from 4 years HD2 using was somehow shocking but acceptable.
"Hand feelig" is very good
Power button may be better but is usable.
I am missing very simple app. to lock the screen (make it black) without touching power button - anybody knows ?
I am very disappointed by the fact that using phone keyboard there is no automatic search through contacts using 3-letters associated with numbers - this was one of the greatest HD2 features- anybody knows how to to it ? Of course I may try to install many diallers but having too many apps on the phone is cumbersome ... :crying: ... I would be gratefull for any suggestions.
Disctionary is great - first time in any phone/pda I used
I have just received my phone from HTC (got it from HTC Elevate) yesterday, so this is my preliminary thoughts.
I think the hardware is great, my unit doesn't have light leaks whatsoever but agree with OP that buttons are too flushed (except for the camera) and my power button is a little loose, so it rattles when I shake the phone. Viewing angle is, I agree, bad. But not a deal breaker for me, as it shifts only in extreme angles. But otherwise, the hardware is great.
as for the OS, I love the look, but I really hate not to be able to have apps that I have in my Desire S. I share photos with my relatives through instagram, and although there is a client app for it, it can't upload. Then comes the music EQ. So used to PowerAMP makes me longing for a great music app like that for my 8X. Don't get me wrong, the audio is good, if not great, but I just find it a little too "boring" and "lifeless" and would like to be able to adjust EQ myself. And then comes the Dropbox problem. As for the OS itself, I really hate not being able to glance at the battery percentage or any other status. I need status bar, I need notification center.
Nevertheless, I think I can live with the OS'es shortcomings, I just hope that with time, it will mature and grow and better itself.
As for the hardware, my only problem is the buttons, but still they are usable and is not really a big deal for me.
How is the camera. I am long time android guy and have an 8x coming to try out. I wanted to try one but the camera is really important to my. My soff rezound with a nice Rom take fantastic pics in most all conditions so that's my baseline.
But I'm going to def give this phone some testing.
I've hit a week with mine, and heres what I can add.
Industrial Design/Durability - "A day doesn't go by where I don't just stare at the device for a few seconds..." - yea, Ive named mine 'sexy beast' because it really is just a beautiful phone. I keep it in my pocket as well, and so far so good. Its also easy to clean off, which surprised me, I didn't expect the back material to wipe down so easily. So for a design and durabilty I give it an A
Build Quality - I haven't had any creaking, or any really noticable flaws, however, there is just one design flaw in mine, but you have to look. Bottom left corner is aprx 1mm higher than upper right corner, but its only noticable if you really look. Otherwise, its running at an A as well for Build Quality.
Usability of Buttons - "I hesitate to say it, but the buttons (except the camera button) are totally useless." I wouldn't say I have large hands, at least I don't think I do. I have noticed that when I hold the phone in my left hand (my usuall position), the volume buttons fall perfectly between my first finger which rests just below the buttons and my next two fingers, which are able to grasp the sides of the phone without touching the rockers. The camera button then falls between the pinky which also rests just below the button and my two middle fingers. And its an easy slide for me to swing my finger to the power button. When the phone is in a pocket and I am listening to music, I find the volume buttons raised just enough where I can find them inside the pocket, and turn up or down. I haven't had any issues with the buttons, and actually find them better in terms of functionality than the buttons on my old TB. Again, an A
Screen - "This screen is absolutely gorgeous...when viewed head on. Viewing angles are pretty bad." Well, I agree that its truly stunning. Cant believe how crystal clear everything is. And as for angles, the only issue I have is that the screen is so damn good, it reflects too much when viewed at angles! I don't have issues per se seeing the screen, but I have to deal with the reflected element! So give it a B
Windows Phone 8 - I agree that Windows hit this really good! As for a home run, maybe an 'in the park' home run. The persistant clock? I don't seem to have that issue, since my clock is always there, and always correct. I also agree in regards to independent volume. And I would love to put my own sound bites for messaging and other notifications, not be stuck with stock. Playlists too, a real beeaach to set one up! Score a B for the OS, but still love it! Knowing it can get better is a plus.
Bottom Line - Im keeping this bad boy for a long time! If the wife can even say she likes it (first phone of mine she ever said that about) then its a keeper! Overall, I think its a great phone. Battery life is fantastic, its snappy and responsive, its integration with social networks and the ability to customize those is fantastic. Integration with xbox could be more, but I don't think my 'more' is possible! Phone gets a A-, just because I know its gonna get better!
I'm having a little problem deciding between the S8 and the S8+, though I'm leaning towards the S8+ because it doesn't feel small unlike the S8. Tell me if you disagree with my opinion. My hand is 18.5 cm from the tip of my middle finger to the wrist and 10.5cm wide(just for reference)
My issue with the S8+ is that it fits my hand well but I think the screen is way too big. But of course, it is the new era of smartphones and the screens are not gonna be that small anymore right? Maybe I just have to get used to having an extremely large display. I'm coming from a Nexus 5 lol.
Sorry if the things above are irrelevant but here are my questions:
1. Is the S8+ screen too big for you?
2. Do you think the S8 is small?
3. Can the S8+ fit in your pocket? (I'm a guy BTW)
4. Why the S8+ instead of the S8?
5. Do you accidentally hit the Bixby button?
Thanks!
1. No
2 yes
3.i have no problem putting in any of my pockets
4. S8 is to small for me
5. No I've never hit the Bixby button when I didn't mean to
My previous phone was a Note 4, which I loved for many reasons (custom ROMs, root, removable battery). The improvements and technology advancements have made some of those reasons irrelevant.
1) S8+ screen size is great for me
2) S8 I don't think is small, but I did prefer the S8+
3) Yes, but maybe not as comfortable as other phones
4) I just prefer the larger display
5) I have the Bixby app disabled, but prior to doing that, I don't recall hitting the button by mistake
I love it. I hate the dedicated Bixby button though. I do miss stock google but I'll live because Samsung does have some features that I like that stock google doesn't have.
1. Not at all, at first i thought it was, but when my previous P9 Plus was nothing more bigger. I decided to go for S8+
2. Not really. But i see no need to buy it other than saving $100.
3. Without any problem.
4. Mainly the 500 extra mAh.. Its just the screen and battery that is the difference.
5. Yes, it annoys me. Disabled it thankfully.
1. Not personally, I really love it. (Coming from a Note 5) but I also have the Nova Launcher so I have gestures enabled that make accessibility a ton easier on a bigger screen.
2. I don't *think* it's too small but coming from the Note 5 I really didn't want to go smaller
3. It fits in my pocket just fine. I have a Caseology Legion Series case on it and I can't find any noticeable difference.
4. Bigger screen/battery. Along with my other comments ^ I figured it would've been blasphemy to get a smaller screen version of the best looking display on the market
5. The first few days I mistaked it for the volume button, but that's just turned into a reflex (like the fingerprint sensor). My biggest issue was hitting the Bixby button while the phone was in my pocket. That would turn the screen on and it would start activating apps while it was in my pocket so I've since used PDP (Package Disabler Pro) to turn off Bixby so now nothing at all happens when I push the Bixby Button.
^^^^^What they said!
I've been a "big" note fan, having all up to 5. I traded in my note for an Xiaomi Mi Mix, a 6.4 inch monstrosity and I mostly loved it....except, the camera. It is just next to useless - still not as bad as some I used (Mi Max).
Here's my observations per your questions:
1. Is the S8+ screen too big for you? Well no. The aspect ratio makes it small, compared to what I have become accustomed too.
2. Do you think the S8 is small? YES!!
3. Can the S8+ fit in your pocket? (I'm a guy BTW) I was shoving my Mi Mix in my coat pocket (North Face Apex). S8+ fits in there great. Pants pockets no prob with S8+, but a no go with Mi Mix.
4. Why the S8+ instead of the S8? Size, tht's all (folks) .
5. Do you accidentally hit the Bixby button? Don't even know it's there. Never hit it my accident once. Don't care about remapping, it's just a 6th toe to me.
I really expected a larger phone with the S8+, but, to me, this is really a great phone with a great camera to photo/video the grannies and my overy energetic puppy.
If you want the bigger screen of the S8+, for my money it would be a great choice.
I just turned my S8 in and got the S8+. I'm coming from a Note 5. The S8 just felt too small in my hands. I'm use to the larger screen. I'm living the S8+ do too the fact it's slimmer than the Note 5 but tall as the Note 5 also.
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One issue is the length of this phone makes it not fit very well in some jacket pockets. Be careful it can fall out of them a little easier.
Dude you will be doing your self the favor if you get the s8+... including more importantly way better battery life and the phone feels good for it to be the plus(bigger) variant...i thought it would be awkwardly narrow but it's no problem at all....
1. Is the S8+ screen too big for you? I have the S8+. Perfect size.
2. Do you think the S8 is small? Yes, It is
3. Can the S8+ fit in your pocket? (I'm a guy BTW) Yes, with no problems.
4. Why the S8+ instead of the S8? Because the screen of S8 is small for me. I like big screens.
5. Do you accidentally hit the Bixby button? Sometimes yes.
Hi, I switched from Note2 to S8+. Below my answers according to my experience.
1. Screen in S8+ is definetly not too big
2. Yes, S8 is too small
3. S8+ fitsto front pocket Easy, but it is impossible to squat. For back pocket S8+ is to big.
4. S8+ is just Simple pleasure for videos or Internet
5. Yes, two times accidentally i clicked bixby button. But since i know ,where it is it never happened again.
I just realized the s8's dont have qc 3.0
I read in a few forums a few weeks ago people were saying it was 3.0 (I remember reading someone even called up samsung)
I was going to start a new thread but then saw this one so.
In my opinion... I feel ripped off.
1. nope
2. nope
3. Yes. easily
4. why not?
5. theres been times i get bored and hit the bixby button and it doesnt open the first time... (happens mostly in games and apps)
Hello, I bought Samsung galaxy s7 in 2016 and its still working till now super fine. Today the screen just flickered some how and I think my phone is about to die.
I was thinking of buying a new phone.
I want it to be flat screen with aluminium frame in sides and back (glass in back is fine too) I rarely use camera too, I also want it to be super amoled. I want it to feel premium in the hand too.
Which phone you guys I should buy with these requirements?
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Hello, I bought Samsung galaxy s7 in 2016 and its still working till now super fine. Today the screen just flickered some how and I think my phone is about to die.
I was thinking of buying a new phone.
I want it to be flat screen with aluminium frame in sides and back (glass in back is fine too) I rarely use camera too, I also want it to be super amoled. I want it to feel premium in the hand too.
Which phone you guys I should buy with these requirements?
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Try clearing the system cache and a hard reset.
Is the battery still good? That may be the issue.
If exposed to water... that is the issue.
What price range? Any good phone generally comes with a good cam nowadays.
You can get a new Note 10+ N975U1 256gb, 12gb ram running on Q for $800. Picked one up last week, it's pristine.
I would stay away from anything running on 11 though.
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Try clearing the system cache and a hard reset.
Is the battery still good? That may be the issue.
If exposed to water... that is the issue.
What price range? Any good phone generally comes with a good cam nowadays.
You can get a new Note 10+ N975U1 256gb, 12gb ram running on Q for $800. Picked one up last week, it's pristine.
I would stay away from anything running on 11 though.
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I haven't cleared the system cache or did a hard reset in 2 years, so I am sure that would help!
The battery is still decent, I mean it's not as it used to be but it's doing fine.
What actually happens is that screen went crazy for like 10 sec (it flickered and shows lines and shaky pictures, then I pressed the power button and it won't back to normal) this is the first time this incident happens to me since I bought the phone. The phone is actually a beast, never lag, and feels premium, If there is still a fresh new one in the market I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again.
I am not sure about the price, to be honest, I think your suggestion is very good, I really lean to Samsung, But I don't like Note's :-(
I just want something like my current S7 (None edge) with let's say a bigger battery and a bigger screen.
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I haven't cleared the system cache or did a hard reset in 2 years, so I am sure that would help!
The battery is still decent, I mean it's not as it used to be but it's doing fine.
What actually happens is that screen went crazy for like 10 sec (it flickered and shows lines and shaky pictures, then I pressed the power button and it won't back to normal) this is the first time this incident happens to me since I bought the phone. The phone is actually a beast, never lag, and feels premium, If there is still a fresh new one in the market I wouldn't hesitate to buy it again.
I am not sure about the price, to be honest, I think your suggestion is very good, I really lean to Samsung, But I don't like Note's :-(
I just want something like my current S7 (None edge) with let's say a bigger battery and a bigger screen.
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If it's not repeatable it will be harder to troubleshoot. Try what I suggested. It's long overdue a system cache clearing. If it flickers again try plugging into the charger, if it stops it's likely the battery. Check for signs of battery swelling.
Try flexing the frame, gently, as well to check for a loose connection, display or mobo failure.
The 10+ is a beast and built solid. A case is mandatory for this corner hitting brick that also loves to face plant. It doesn't seem large to me at all anymore. It's very slim 7mm, so even with a good case it doesn't seem that large.
The spen is great as a remote shutter release and smart select is very handy which I use it for a lot now. The curve screen is the nesting place for One Handed Operation plus, no waste here.
The display is gorgeous (no rounded corners) and still one of the brightest with better color rendering than most newer phones. It's a flagship phone in every sense with snappy performance and about 10+ hours SOT. The Buds+ couple seamlessly with it. It still retains its on screen navigation buttons on Q. The Galaxy Store customization on the stock variants are the best on the planet.
Lol, I'm biased as it is my weapon of choice. I picked it over the N20 Ultra for a number of reasons a week ago.
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If it's not repeatable it will be harder to troubleshoot. Try what I suggested. It's long overdue a system cache clearing. If it flickers again try plugging into the charger, if it stops it's likely the battery. Check for signs of battery swelling.
Try flexing the frame, gently, as well to check for a loose connection, display or mobo failure.
The 10+ is a beast and built solid. A case is mandatory for this corner hitting brick that also loves to face plant. It doesn't seem large to me at all anymore. It's very slim 7mm, so even with a good case it doesn't seem that large.
The spen is great as a remote shutter release and smart select is very handy which I use it for a lot now. The curve screen is the nesting place for One Handed Operation plus, no waste here.
The display is gorgeous (no rounded corners) and still one of the brightest with better color rendering than most newer phones. It's a flagship phone in every sense with snappy performance and about 10+ hours SOT. The Buds+ couple seamlessly with it. It still retains its on screen navigation buttons on Q. The Galaxy Store customization on the stock variants are the best on the planet.
Lol, I'm biased as it is my weapon of choice. I picked it over the N20 Ultra for a number of reasons a week ago.
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Will try that! Thank you, Blackhawk!
I am checking the Samsung Galaxy S10+ it is really a big leap from S7, going to give that a thought, I really like the ceramic back, ceramic frame! also, the Dynamic Amoled seems fantastic! <3
And it still has the heart monitor!
You're welcome.
Water damage is insidious and pervasive. The faster you disconnect the battery and purge it, the better the outcome. It's possible there's some light corrosion on the ribbon cable contacts, reseating them may resolve it.
A very -little- WD-40 helps. Never get any solvents around LCD displays as it can poison them.
It is possible to salvage water soaked electronics with quick action. My Buds case went straight for a full hot cup of coffee, cream and sugar. Damn thing must have been Pav Tack guided, dead center of the cup. Straight to the bottom.
I couldn't disconnect the spot welded battery but I torn it apart, flushed with RO water, then with copious amounts of anhydrous isopropyl alcohol, dried. 2 years latter it remain functional.
I drank the coffee too
IMO when it comes to modding & rooting SAMSUNG phones aren't the best choice.
every since the first update my s22 ultra has been subtly changing the color temp i started noticing it more and more now, i have eyecomfort permanently off and the color settings as cold as possible green and red 0 blue max so this is a bug or a feature, samsung told me they'd investigate and get back to me they never did, they couldn't tell me if it was a feature or if it was a bug, and it's ruining the experience for me.
if you have sensitive eyes you will notice swaps in the color temp
zzcool said:
every since the first update my s22 ultra has been subtly changing the color temp i started noticing it more and more now, i have eyecomfort permanently off and the color settings as cold as possible green and red 0 blue max so this is a bug or a feature, samsung told me they'd investigate and get back to me they never did, they couldn't tell me if it was a feature or if it was a bug, and it's ruining the experience for me.
if you have sensitive eyes you will notice swaps in the color temp
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Try clearing the system cache.
Try a hard reboot as well.
Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app causing it.
blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
Try a hard reboot as well.
Try in safe mode to rule out a 3rd party app causing it.
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i am not able to enter recovery mode i even connected a usb cable but it still won't open
zzcool said:
i am not able to enter recovery mode i even connected a usb cable but it still won't open
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You got to get the timing right.
Sometimes it's the first try, other times my fingers get stupid and it takes 2 or 3 times.
Connect the cable to a computer, not to the charger. As soon as it says Galaxy let go of the buttons.
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Connect the cable to a computer, not to the charger. As soon as it says Galaxy let go of the buttons.
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so just keep it connected then hold the buttons then let go when it says galaxy?
zzcool said:
so just keep it connected then hold the buttons then let go when it says galaxy?
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Yeah.
Turn if off > connect it to a PC > Hold Power + Vol Down until it reads Galaxy and let go.
submit an error report again
Samsung Members app > Get help > Send feedback > Error reports
Post Nine said:
submit an error report again
Samsung Members app > Get help > Send feedback > Error reports
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it's difficult to know if this is by design or not as samsung always brags about less blue light in their displays
zzcool said:
it's difficult to know if this is by design or not as samsung always brags about less blue light in their displays
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Samsung limits the higher wavelengths of blue, not all blue bandwidth.
This not the cause of this issue.
There are issues with all variable rate displays as they are extremely hard to color calibrate and because of this the color rendering index suffers.
Failure rates are higher as well. This issue could be from software ie a 3rd party app, firmware or a hardware failure.
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Samsung limits the higher wavelengths of blue, not all blue bandwidth.
This not the cause of this issue.
There are issues with all variable rate displays as they are extremely hard to color calibrate and because of this the color rendering index suffers.
Failure rates are higher as well. This issue could be from software ie a 3rd party app, firmware or a hardware failure.
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i've noticed the issue more and more now, that and the lag means i'm sending it back tomorrow, the phone is perfect when it comes to design and display but thats all it is, and thats not enough to justify the cost.
zzcool said:
i've noticed the issue more and more now, that and the lag means i'm sending it back tomorrow, the phone is perfect when it comes to design and display but thats all it is, and thats not enough to justify the cost. There's a lot of issues that started with the N20U and its just getting worse.
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That sucks but get the junk out of your face.
I would've like to get a new flagship Note but Samsung lost the mojo and just keep dropping the ball. They even forgot their name. What's the name? Note! Samsung's idea of a power user is now someone that uses their phone as a hand warmer
There's been numerous issues with the variable refresh rate displays starting with the N20U.
Samsung screwed up the form factor on the N20U as well; the N10+ is 7mm thick and the spen is on the right side... meaning the right side!
The S20U shares the same bloody faults but less cam bulging. I don't like thick women or phones...
Android 12 is a dog, and Samsung screwed up their hardware by stupidity and some of it was because of variable refresh rate displays technology or lack of.
Because all those blunders I went with my second new N10+ a N975U1 256/12 gb for $800. No 5G or high refresh rate but the display has the best color rendering index and white point out there, still. It's a rock solid gorgeous work horse with excellent build quality. It's running on Android 10, no scoped storage or force encryption. Even with a smaller battery and slower memory it beats out the newer Samsung flagships in SOT.
It's SD card slot is getting a V30 1tb Sandisk Extreme to keep up with my expanding database.
No cloud storage needed.
This 2.5 yo twin is heavily used, looks and runs like new, literally.
One replacement battery is it's only repair. The current OS will be 2 yo in June. Fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. I'm not buying the newer is better hype from Samsung or Gookill Android
blackhawk said:
That sucks but get the junk out of your face.
I would've like to get a new flagship Note but Samsung lost the mojo and just keep dropping the ball. They even forgot their name. What's the name? Note! Samsung's idea of a power user is now someone that uses their phone as a hand warmer
There's been numerous issues with the variable refresh rate displays starting with the N20U.
Samsung screwed up the form factor on the N20U as well; the N10+ is 7mm thick and the spen is on the right side... meaning the right side!
The S20U shares the same bloody faults but less cam bulging. I don't like thick women or phones...
Android 12 is a dog, and Samsung screwed up their hardware by stupidity and some of it was because of variable refresh rate displays technology or lack of.
Because all those blunders I went with my second new N10+ a N975U1 256/12 gb for $800. No 5G or high refresh rate but the display has the best color rendering index and white point out there, still. It's a rock solid gorgeous work horse with excellent build quality. It's running on Android 10, no scoped storage or force encryption. Even with a smaller battery and slower memory it beats out the newer Samsung flagships in SOT.
It's SD card slot is getting a V30 1tb Sandisk Extreme to keep up with my expanding database.
No cloud storage needed.
This 2.5 yo twin is heavily used, looks and runs like new, literally.
One replacement battery is it's only repair. The current OS will be 2 yo in June. Fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. I'm not buying the newer is better hype from Samsung or Gookill Android
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i had the note 10 but i sold it back as it suffered from a way too warm display samsung service said they found no issues eventually i just sold it at a 200 dollar loss, i loved everything about it but i am really sensitive to warm displays extremely sensitive if it's a tiny tiny bit past what i prefer it will look yellow to me just yellow i don't know how people can handle anything but cold displays it literally looks yellow, so screendisplays are always a hit and miss for me, second the design of the note 10 it wasn't perfect, if you look in the corners theres a very subtle curve, the s22 ultra is perfectly flat at the top and bottom a perfect tube design like old nokia lumia or the sony xperia xz and xz1, only thing more perfect would be getting rid of the displaycurves making it a perfect tube display
honestly if it wasn't for the minor issues the s22 ultra has then it would have been absolutely perfect but even then at that cost it's better to get a foldable if they looked better, foldables look terrible to me with their asymmetrical design they don't have to as it's a designchoice the only thing they have to or well technically they don't have to do that either but the only thing they have to is to not fold shut completely, if samsung got rid of the asymmetrical design and made it more squared off and folding shut it would be an obvious choice for me, but my choices in tech always depends on design and not the functionality
right now i have a huawei mate 10 pro and honestly with it's 9 hours sot it's enough for everything it's a perfect phone to me, and the last thin bezel phone with a square flat display, it only needs a screen replacement due to scratches.
zzcool said:
i had the note 10 but i sold it back as it suffered from a way too warm display samsung service said they found no issues eventually i just sold it at a 200 dollar loss, i loved everything about it but i am really sensitive to warm displays extremely sensitive if it's a tiny tiny bit past what i prefer it will look yellow to me just yellow i don't know how people can handle anything but cold displays it literally looks yellow, so screendisplays are always a hit and miss for me, second the design of the note 10 it wasn't perfect, if you look in the corners theres a very subtle curve, the s22 ultra is perfectly flat at the top and bottom a perfect tube design like old nokia lumia or the sony xperia xz and xz1, only thing more perfect would be getting rid of the displaycurves making it a perfect tube display
honestly if it wasn't for the minor issues the s22 ultra has then it would have been absolutely perfect but even then at that cost it's better to get a foldable if they looked better, foldables look terrible to me with their asymmetrical design they don't have to as it's a designchoice the only thing they have to or well technically they don't have to do that either but the only thing they have to is to not fold shut completely, if samsung got rid of the asymmetrical design and made it more squared off and folding shut it would be an obvious choice for me, but my choices in tech always depends on design and not the functionality
right now i have a huawei mate 10 pro and honestly with it's 9 hours sot it's enough for everything it's a perfect phone to me, and the last thin bezel phone with a square flat display, it only needs a screen replacement due to scratches.
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Not the N10, N10+ with its display set to "natural". I wouldn't call it warm, it's color temperature is about 6600K actually a bit on the cool side. I've tested it's color through put, cam to display and it's spot on.
If you had a N10+ that had color issues it was defective. It's the best display I've even seen.
Galaxy Note10+ OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out
blackhawk said:
Not the N10, N10+ with its display set to "natural". I wouldn't call it warm, it's color temperature is about 6600K actually a bit on the cool side. I've tested it's color through put, cam to display and it's spot on.
If you had a N10+ that had color issues it was defective. It's the best display I've even seen.
Galaxy Note10+ OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out
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yeah but i can't handle so called natural colors, when growing up i had my crts set to 11000k thats the temp i prefered anything else looks yellow and brown to me on the s22 ultra i have it set to the coldest as well as green and red set to 0 and blue max
i like vibrant cold colors on a display with the highest brightness possible
zzcool said:
yeah but i can't handle so called natural colors, when growing up i had my crts set to 11000k thats the temp i prefered anything else looks yellow and brown to me on the s22 ultra i have it set to the coldest as well as green and red set to 0 and blue max
i like vibrant cold colors on a display with the highest brightness possible
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You want those settings if viewing outside or direct sunlight to offset the washout effect otherwise not.
It's also burning up the display.
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You want those settings if viewing outside or direct sunlight to offset the washout effect otherwise not.
It's also burning up the display.
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personally i can't stand anything other than the highest brightness so i keep adaptive to off, when it comes to displays i will use it it to it's highest potential
1. This phone is best aesthetic phone
2. We can use in vloging like , i can fold that phone than and open back camera than start vloging than we can ourself in back screen for perfect scence and all stuff
3. Many times we need to carry big size phones for travelling in that times i can use this phone by folding it and carry anywhere we want
I don't think I could go back to 7 inches sticking out of my pocket again (but I think the wife would like to see 7 inches sticking out of my pocket)
My z flip 3 was a great phone, I loved it, but unfortunately for me after about 4 months the novelty of it wore off and I started getting tired of having to un flip the phone every time I needed to do more than just glance at a notification. Then the Galaxy S22 Ultra was released so I sold my z flip 3 and got the S22 Ultra and haven't looked back once.
Just personal preference I guess.
Love the phone... just that the battery size disappointed me.. need to keep on charge it...
The Flip 3 was great in many ways,
The size when folded - it's great for pockets
phone was fast and worked well.
Inner display was great.
Updates were fast and regular.
Bad - Battery life, outer display needed to be bigger and more useful. I know Samsprung etc did try and make it better.
I also got tired of flipping the phone open to reply to messages etc... closing was good to end a call, however.
Very little or no development ( roms )
I ended up selling it and got a Pixel 7.
For most users, this phone would have been great. For people that like to flash roms etc... not an option.
This was my most durable phone, perhaps ever. I had it since beginning, and it produced zero scratches on the back, sides, and screen. In 1-2months, it was guaranteed every other phone had ugly scratches and a dot on the screen. Not ZFLip, which, adding to insult, didn't even have a case! And it still sticked to a magnetic charger alone, which was a massive convenience. 183 grams of pure beauty, instead of ugly cases with a magnetic sticker on every other phone.
The only annoyance came with screen foil replacement after 9months. Not so bad, replacement is free.
Sadly, after 18months, the screen stopped to turn on after unfolding. Works great if it's permanently unfolded. But, with that, it lost its main attraction.
So, despite this phone killed my flagship promiscuity for an incredible while, i now will switch back to a normal HEAVY brick: Pixel 7.
And that's after one strong argument i no longer can ignore: all Flips flicker (as reported on dxomark, notebookcheck). I see the flickering at nights, and the flicker continues in my brain when i shut my eyes. Can't ignore this anymore. Can't update to Flip4. Nothing other relevant on the market. Sad!