I have a OP-5t and ordered the 4a a couple weeks ago. I was worried the screen might be a lot smaller, but I ordered a screen protector and took a couple photos on top of my 5t. The blue frame is an alignment tool with inside opening the 4a screen size. I was surprised the 4a actually has more screen in the height, and really not much less in the width. The overall size of the 4a it's a lot smaller, and lighter. I don't have it yet, but I think I made a good choice!
I am coming from a OnePlus 3T and even though the 3T is bigger, it's noticeably smaller in screen size due to the bezels. I love the 4a's screen and color tones so much more and couldn't be happier for such a great phone for the price.
I just got my pixel 4a today and was also coming from a op5t.
The frame of the 4a is larger than the screen (vertically), but the actual screen of the 4a is not larger than the screen of the 5t in either direction. It's pretty close vertically but definitely smaller horizontally. The 4a is noticeably smaller, but it's also easier to hold and manage, and it's significantly lighter than the 5t too.
Hope the battery life is as good as the early reviews have been saying.
Yeah when I unboxed the phone, I was immediately stuck by how tall it is. I was expecting a 2:1 aspect ratio, but its actually a bit taller than that even. Makes me miss the days of truly compact options.
I'm coming from an OG Pixel XL. Does anyone have a side by side comparison? The Pixel XL is 5.5“ but has a wider aspect ratio. Whereas the 4 is 5.8" (taller but narrower). I don't have it yet but I wonder how noticeable the difference will be.
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I'm coming from an OG Pixel XL. Does anyone have a side by side comparison? The Pixel XL is 5.5“ but has a wider aspect ratio. Whereas the 4 is 5.8" (taller but narrower). I don't have it yet but I wonder how noticeable the difference will be.
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Screen on 4a should be 2.43" x 5.28"
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Coming from a Pixel XL, the 4a is a good deal smaller. The reduced bezels mean that the 4a screen overall is actually taller, which is nice because I turn on the virtual navigation buttons. The width makes it much easier to hold in your hand, but it will take some getting used to because the aspect ratio change means that many images are noticeably smaller.
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Coming from a Pixel XL, the 4a is a good deal smaller. The reduced bezels mean that the 4a screen overall is actually taller, which is nice because I turn on the virtual navigation buttons. The width makes it much easier to hold in your hand, but it will take some getting used to because the aspect ratio change means that many images are noticeably smaller.
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Good to know... I, too am switching from a Pixel XL and, even looking at phone & screen dimensions online, it's hard to tell what that means in reality....
This is my OnePlus 5t (6" screen) with image the same size as 4a screen. Height is very close to same, width is about .10" less on sides.
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Most recently I had a 3a XL. Before that an S20+ and an S20 Ultra until I returned it (too big/heavy). My first thought about the 4a was "wow, that's a little fella". I like the size of the phone and the screen. A big screen is nice to look at but carrying the 4a around and using it is much more pleasant than the big phones. that S20 Ultra was a monster to carry around. If I had a pair of loose fitting shorts on I couldn't put it in my pocket - it would pull my pants down! And then you were worrying about losing or dropping the $1400 phone. This 4a is the ticket for me.
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I'm coming from an OG Pixel XL. Does anyone have a side by side comparison? The Pixel XL is 5.5“ but has a wider aspect ratio. Whereas the 4 is 5.8" (taller but narrower). I don't have it yet but I wonder how noticeable the difference will be.
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I don't have my Pixel 4a yet; but the screen protectors arrived yesterday; so I put one on top of my Pixel XL for comparison. Roughly, it looked like the screen area was almost 1/4" narrower; but also almost 3/4" taller.
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I'm coming from an OG Pixel XL. Does anyone have a side by side comparison? The Pixel XL is 5.5“ but has a wider aspect ratio. Whereas the 4 is 5.8" (taller but narrower). I don't have it yet but I wonder how noticeable the difference will be.
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Here are 2 pics comparing the OG XL, 2XL and 4a. I was using a pixel 2 to take the photo.
The 4a is the size of the pixel 2 with the screen of the 2xl (same size, not same quality )
The pics align the bottom of the phones as well as the bottom of the screens.
Don't be concerned with brightness. They were all set differently.
Hope this helps. I had to remove an OtterBox for the pic .
Disclaimer. The 4a is the absolute perfect size for me. I can use it one hand and don't feel like the keyboard takes over the screen.
How is the feel? Does it need a case, or will it slip from your hand?
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How is the feel? Does it need a case, or will it slip from your hand?
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it needs, plastic behind would easily get scratched.
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How is the feel? Does it need a case, or will it slip from your hand?
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Running mine naked with a tempered glass protector. I like the in hand feel. Has some grip to it.
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Here are 2 pics comparing the OG XL, 2XL and 4a. I was using a pixel 2 to take the photo.
The 4a is the size of the pixel 2 with the screen of the 2xl (same size, not same quality )
The pics align the bottom of the phones as well as the bottom of the screens.
Don't be concerned with brightness. They were all set differently.
Hope this helps. I had to remove an OtterBox for the pic .
Disclaimer. The 4a is the absolute perfect size for me. I can use it one hand and don't feel like the keyboard takes over the screen.
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Was thinking about this today.... I remember first getting my Nexus 6P and thinking what a large phone it was; definitely a bit unwieldy trying to use with one hand in many situations, and I've got large hands. Though the Pixel XL was a tad smaller & lighter, it essentially felt the same. Hoping the Pixel 4a is more in line with the "perfect size"....
coming from a galaxy note 5, the 4a screen is a bit taller but a lot less wider. It actually makes a LOT of visual difference, where everything looks much smaller and narrower on the 4a, almost as if I increased the resolution. There are options to increase fonts and zoom, but then the spacing between icons is greatly reduced and it doesn't look pleasing to the eyes. I think anyone coming from a wider screen, will not feel comfortable (I have big fat fingers) but anyone coming from narrower or similar width screen, will likely not notice it.
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Choosing between two. Since they are mostly the same, I'd rather prefer pixel based on size, 5.5 is too much. Battery and pixel density is nicer on XL, but overall is about the same.
The only concern is Google daydream, is it going to suck on smaller screen with less pixels? How bad would be the difference? VR is going to be out month from now, I don't want to wait that long till somebody test it. So any forecasts?
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Choosing between two. Since they are mostly the same, I'd rather prefer pixel based on size, 5.5 is too much. Battery and pixel density is nicer on XL, but overall is about the same.
The only concern is Google daydream, is it going to suck on smaller screen with less pixels? How bad would be the difference? VR is going to be out month from now, I don't want to wait that long till somebody test it. So any forecasts?
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I guess VR would be better on the XL on account of its 2K display. The reviews on the XL are great as well along with awesome battery life. I ordered the smaller one as I prefer the small size but the battery life as per reviews is not as good as the XL
Ordered the small myself, I feel like my Droid Turbo is too big.
But man, oh man, am I going to miss that battery life
this won't be a problem for you. i also chose the regular, not the XL. my eyes aren't great and i work from my phone, so i was looking at the XL as the only option. then my LG G3 (5.5") broke and i had to go back to my Galaxy S3 (4.7") while waiting for the new phone. and i couldn't believe how happy i've been back on the smaller S3! no pixelation problems, or small panel issues, or working from my phone, or any issues at all. so much more compact and easy to handle than the G3! and the Pixel is bigger anyway, so i'm 100% sure i made the right decision by skipping the phablets this time.
I've gone from the Note 7 down to the iPhone 7 while I wait for the REGULAR Pixel to come in this week.
I too struggled with this decision and ultimately have both sizes preordered. I briefly owned iPhone 6 Plus and hated the large size. The xl is just a wee bit smaller, but I fear may still be too big.
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I too struggled with this decision and ultimately have both sizes preordered. I briefly owned iPhone 6 Plus and hated the large size. The xl is just a wee bit smaller, but I fear may still be too big.
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I also preordered both sizes .. I have to see them in my eyes to make decisions
I ended up ordering the normal Pixel. I'm not so worried about the size as much as I am about the battery life. I found the 5X to be the perfect size for me, but the battery life on the 6P was so much better I ended up using that as my main phone.
Hoping things are a bit better this time around with the smaller phone and that all the optimisations are enough to get a full days battery life out of the regular sized phone.
Guys, thank you for sharing your thoughts, but what about DayDream VR for XL vs nonXL?
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Guys, thank you for sharing your thoughts, but what about DayDream VR for XL vs nonXL?
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I can't comment on DayDream VR specifically but I have used my Nexus 6P with a google cardboard viewer a bit. It wasn't a great experience even with the 6P's resolution so I reckon it is going to be not great on the Pixel XL, and slightly worse on the normal Pixel due to the XL having a bit higher PPI. Either way it isn't going to be fantastic resolution wise.
Actually, lets move to this thread, I'll post there.
"Likely VR performance"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/likely-vr-performance-t3475900
I wanted to see if others experienced the wrist strain issues with the larger phones? If so, did you decide to downsize when purchasing the Pixel 2?
For me, I'm coming from the Motorola Nexus 6 and I can feel pain in my wrist periodically which drove my decision to purchase the Pixel 2.
Just wanted to see who else downsized and for what reasons.
Nexus 6P user here (77.8mm width and slippery case).
Pixel 2 (69.7mm) is larger than Moto X (65.3mm) or Galaxy Nexus (67.9). These 2 samples had an amazing width for 1 hand, specially the Moto X, with its shape. It was the most comfortable phone I tried.
The Pixel 2 won't be like those 2 phones, but still very usable with just one hand.
If the Pixel 2 coating has some grip, it could be more even more comfortable like the Nexus 5 (69.2mm). If not, you can try a dbrand skin with some grip.
Shape and grip matters A LOT. I had a Z5 Compact (4.6" and 65mm) and it was difficult to use (without a case) compared to the phone I had before and after it (Nexus 5 and Nexus 5X). These two 5" and 5.2" were bigger than the Z5 Compact, but easier to be used with one hand (because of the shape and the matte-black back cover with some grip).
I heard that the Pixel 1 was so slippery to be used without a case, but I think the Pixel 2 has another coating.
Anyway, I'm doing the same as you (whenever I get a chance to get a Pixel since it's available only in 5 countries). Want to get rid of the 6P size. I can use it with one hand, but I had to switch to two, many times per day.
The Nexus 6 is a tank, so IF you are almost OK with the Nexus 6, You will probably prefer the Pixel 2 XL.
I love big phones, I was in love the Moto nexus. In fact that was my favorite phone ever (relative to the time period) I opted for the small pixel mainly because with Google promotion and T-Mobile promotion it would be free. Also having a new born having a phone to use one handed will be super useful.
With the way they are shrinking bezels I would love for a 7 inch phone to come to the market. Sure you can buy a cheap Chinese phone on eBay but that's not the same
Well you're coming from the Nexus 6.....and the 6 is gigantic. Pretty much any phone on the market is going to be noticeably smaller for you.
I have a Pixel XL and it is much, much more comfortable than the 6. Not even close. Have you messed around with the XL in stores and it still feels too big for you?
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Well you're coming from the Nexus 6.....and the 6 is gigantic. Pretty much any phone on the market is going to be noticeably smaller for you.
I have a Pixel XL and it is much, much more comfortable than the 6. Not even close. Have you messed around with the XL in stores and it still feels too big for you?
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I am using the XL right now. I doesn't feel big except when when I am feeding my son. Also not so much "big" as it was heavy. Before the XL I was temporarily using the 5x which was super convenient while holding my son.
Also should mention I have had many phones since then. The nexus 6 wasn't that much bigger than the iPhone what ever plus just in raw dynamics. The Nexus had very small bezels especially for the time.
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I am using the XL right now. I doesn't feel big except when when I am feeding my son. Also not so much "big" as it was heavy. Before the XL I was temporarily using the 5x which was super convenient while holding my son.
Also should mention I have had many phones since then. The nexus 6 wasn't that much bigger than the iPhone what ever plus just in raw dynamics. The Nexus had very small bezels especially for the time.
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The thing with the iPhones is the home button. That button ruins the experience with one hand (specially when you double tap it). Not to mention that they are also slippery phones.
iPhone 6/7/8 size is perfect. But the home button is not very comfortable to use. This could be one more reason why they removed this button in the bigger iPhone X.
I always used Nexus. Before the Nexus I had one Galaxy S3....similar story with the home button.
Virtual screen buttons are faster and more comfortable to use with one hand in my experience.
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The thing with the iPhones is the home button. That button ruins the experience with one hand (specially when you double tap it). Not to mention that they are also slippery phones.
iPhone 6/7/8 size is perfect. But the home button is not very comfortable to use. This could be one more reason why they removed this button in the bigger iPhone X.
I always used Nexus. Before the Nexus I had one Galaxy S3....similar story with the home button.
Virtual screen buttons are faster and more comfortable to use with one hand in my experience.
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I agree I am just saying despite the N6 having a much bigger screen the iPhone plus has a very similar footprint to the Nexus 6
For me, it's really a toss-up between a better viewing experience and more convenient day-to-day usage.
Coming from a 6P, I was a bit reluctant to lose a chunk of screen real estate and dithered between the 2 and the 2XL. I have loved being able to fit so much in view and it's great for video.
However, I've held a few friends' phones with similar dimensions to the Pixel 2 and I'm looking forward to consistent one-handed use.
for me i love small phones and i think if google made the pixel edge to edge with same size it will be [emoji91] [emoji23]
but i go to 2 XL if not comfortable i go sell it and i buy regular pixel
and dont forget now all company go to made big phones
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for me i love small phones and i think if google made the pixel edge to edge with same size it will be [emoji91] [emoji23]
but i go to 2 XL if not comfortable i go sell it and i buy regular pixel
and dont forget now all company go to made big phones
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For me the perfect small phone would be some Pixel with the Moto X's width and some ergonomic shape with a good grip.
And obviously, bigger screen (maybe they can provide 5" or more reducing the bezels) still maintaining Moto X's width of 65~mm.
(Galaxy S8 has 68.1mm of width with 5.8").
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For me the perfect small phone would be some Pixel with the Moto X's width and some ergonomic shape with a good grip.
And obviously, bigger screen (maybe they can provide 5" or more reducing the bezels) still maintaining Moto X's width of 65~mm.
(Galaxy S8 has 68.1mm of width with 5.8").
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if google made pixel 2 with small bezels 5.5 or 5.8 same design 2 xl will no one buy 2 xl
i love Pixel 2 because more comfortable with one hand
i love Pixel 2 XL because beautiful design
really I can not decide ??* [emoji144]
pixel 2 for : whatsapp - insta - snap social media
pixel 2 xl for : game - movies
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DinarQ8 said:
if google made pixel 2 with small bezels 5.5 or 5.8 same design 2 xl will no one buy 2 xl
i love Pixel 2 because more comfortable with one hand
i love Pixel 2 XL because beautiful design
really I can not decide ??* [emoji144]
pixel 2 for : whatsapp - insta - snap social media
pixel 2 xl for : game - movies
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Well it is a phone after all...if you are using the phone all the time while commuting, walking etc. Go for the regular/phone version. If you are using the phone more from home/office in a quiet environment and/or for more entertainment purposes. Then the XL phablet will be a better option.
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thesebastian said:
For me the perfect small phone would be some Pixel with the Moto X's width and some ergonomic shape with a good grip.
And obviously, bigger screen (maybe they can provide 5" or more reducing the bezels) still maintaining Moto X's width of 65~mm.
(Galaxy S8 has 68.1mm of width with 5.8").
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A 5" 16:9 screen is 62.3 mm wide. Not going to fit in a 65mm width unless you play Samsung's game of folding the edges down (which is how they fit a 64.4mm wide screen in a 68mm wide device - and even then you'll see that the difference is larger than 65 vs 62.3). Personally I'd take a more usable flat screen any day.
A 5" 2:1 display you could easily fit in that width because it's the same width as a 4.6" 16:9 (56-57mm). But that has a smaller area than a 5" 16:9, 12.5% more than the 4.6" 16:9 would give.
Personally I'd be happy with a 5.5" 2:1 display, which would fit inside the current Pixel 2 body perfectly well. I expect that's what Pixel 3 will be, but my current phone wasn't going to last another year.
Currently have Droid Turbo 2, always strained to securely hold it in one hand while also reaching far corner. Pre-ordered Pixel 2 on a hunch it'd be the better size for me going forward. Just came back from Verizon store holding both and came away 100% confident I made the right choice. 2XL certainly looks nicer, but even harder to operate one handed than my Turbo
I REALLY love this tall screen trend but i too went with the smaller pixel. I have been using the 5" from last year and it is the perfect size phone. I have used bigger phones in the past ( i came from a nexus 6P) but the smaller phones feel right. I wish that this new smaller pixel also had the tall screen but have to wait until next year. I cant go back to such a large phone... The 2 XL is almost the exact same size as the 6P! If google can make next years smaller pixel like the essential phone i think that may be the perfect phone.
I had the S8 with weird 18:9 screen size and I hated it. I much prefer the 16:9 cinematic... They look too tall and lanky which makes the pixel 2 xl unappealing to me on top of the fact that it actually makes it more difficult to hold (the top weight makes it easy to drop). What's funny is everyone getting angry about bezels in the android community but iphone users are getting bezeled phones and no one on iphone seems to care. I personally prefer a smaller one hand phone that can fit in my gym shorts when I run and not pull my pants off! The original XL is a little too big.
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I had the S8 with weird 18:9 screen size and I hated it. I much prefer the 16:9 cinematic... They look too tall and lanky which makes the pixel 2 xl unappealing to me on top of the fact that it actually makes it more difficult to hold (the top weight makes it easy to drop).
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Remember that the Samsungs are taller relative to the width because (a) they use a slightly longer format, 18.5:9, and more importantly (b) they fold the sides of the screen down, making the phone narrower than you'd expect for the screen dimensions.
Look at the V30, which has a flat 2:1 display, and compare its proportions with those of the Pixel 2 and you'll find it's a bit shorter relative to its width than the Pixel (though that's harder to do with a smaller phone, since the same physical size of bezel is a larger proportion of the phone's size), and in absolute terms shorter than "conventional" phablets such as the OnePlus 5 or HTC U11 whose displays are the same width. The 2:1 display format doesn't itself have to mean a taller phone.
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Remember that the Samsungs are taller relative to the width because (a) they use a slightly longer format, 18.5:9, and more importantly (b) they fold the sides of the screen down, making the phone narrower than you'd expect for the screen dimensions.
Look at the V30, which has a flat 2:1 display, and compare its proportions with those of the Pixel 2 and you'll find it's a bit shorter relative to its width than the Pixel (though that's harder to do with a smaller phone, since the same physical size of bezel is a larger proportion of the phone's size), and in absolute terms shorter than "conventional" phablets such as the OnePlus 5 or HTC U11 whose displays are the same width. The 2:1 display format doesn't itself have to mean a taller phone.
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Gotcha - I was under the impression that the Pixel 2 XL would be the same dimensions as the S8s are. THe S8s seem to be copying the old school iPhone Format.
The 2XL is taller than the V30, because it has larger top/bottom bezels with speakers in them. So it's just slightly shorter than the S8+, and a little wider.
I experience everything strain on those phablets. Unwieldy one-handed. Honestly, 5" with those huge bezels is too big but its the only reasonable option out there.
Im currently on iPhone 8 Plus (yeah, i know. Big mistake). And before that OnePlus 5. I preeordered a Pixel 2 XL but getting cold feet with the long waiting time and all the reports about all the screen issues. Then i came to think of Pixel 2. But i don't really know about the size of the phone. Is there anybody here coming from a bigger screen size to a Pixel 2? The bezels i can live with (about the same size as the iPhone).
..Or should i wait in line for the XL despite for the screen "issues"?
I don't have access to the phone myself so i can't really check for my self.
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I don't have my pixel 2 yet (later this week), but I went through a similar decision process. I'm coming from shamu with a 5.96" screen at 2560×x 1440.
Compared to the pixel 2 screen of 5" at 1080 x 1920.
I struggled with what device I would move to now that my trusty whale is no longer getting security updates. I was concerned that the pixel 2 was just not going to satisfy, but unhappy with the build of the xl. I really have a preference for AMOLED.
Then I bought an iPhone 8 (4.7-inch at 1334 x 750) for my daughter. After playing with that a bit, I decided the pixel 2 wouldn't be as big a disappointment as I thought. Particularly when you consider the iPhone pixel density is 326 ppi, substantially lower than the pixel 2 (though both are lower than the N6).
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
I've always had Phablet sized phones. Nexus 6, Nexus 6P, OnePlus 5. I get phones very very cheap through my work, so I went with the Pixel 2 because it was $200 out the door, the XL was $350. I wasn't sure about the size, but I really wanted the front-facing speakers and the XL seems to have a few issues, so I gave the Pixel 2 a shot.
I have never been happier. This is the first phone in years that I haven't rooted, and as of right now, I do not miss it, but I digress. The size for me is much better. I thought I would, but I do not miss the larger phones. It fits in my shirt and pants pockets so much better.
Coming from a note 4 as my daily driver. The screen to bezel ratio makes the phone look really odd to me. I like knowing the dual speakers are there so it makes up for it. I put a somewhat bigger case on it, the spigen tough armor, just to add a little weight and width. The screen is decent for what it is, I don't consume much media on it which is why I was okay with the lower resolution. I will always wish the screen was a little taller and took some space away from the bezels but the phone size itself is perfect. I wanted a smaller more discrete device so the pixel 2 was (almost) perfect. I will absolutely miss my stylus and all the features that come with it. Being able to mark up anything on the screen and send it immediately was great for work.
I came from 6p and galaxy s8+, and have no problem with the Pixel 2. It actually fits my hand better. Again, I don't use my phone much for video watching.
I have had many phablets including Nexus 6 (which I still use as a media device,) I initially got the pixel 2 because with having a new born I actually wanted something something smaller. Plus I am kinda HTC fan. My experience with LG has been mediocre with the G6 leaving me disappointed.
I feel Pixel 2 is a great device and for me it was easy to adapt to a 5 inch device. only real flaw is the bezels are way bigger than they should be in 2017.
So I finally switched, after more than 2 years with the Moto X Pure. I had the Pixel 2 XL for about a week, here is my comparison.
Speed: No doubt the Pixel is far quicker, snappier, but anyone would have expected that.
Screen: I prefer the display of the Moto. Now you would think the size difference 6 vs 5.7 is huge, but when you play videos it seems like the width of the Moto gives you a bit more of the viewing experience. Theres is not a lot of difference with the quality of the display, the Pixel seemed to have a bit deeper blacks.
Camera: Pixels camera is just great, it almost consistently takes great pix. Love the night shots and the portrait mode. No comparison...
Speakers: I expected the Pixel speakers to be better, but after putting them side by side I found out that the Moto X Pure has speakers that are just a bit louder, just a tiny bit. Theres no audio quality difference
Build: Both phones are built well. Both feel heavy. The Moto X is thicker and the Pixel is lenghtier.
Forgot to mention the battery. The Pixel battery is amazing. I never had a phone last this long.
I think its a perfect upgrade.
Few things that would make the Pixel even better:
1. Additional wide angle lens like on the V30.
2. Minimize the height a bit
3. IP68
4. Chop chop for light
Don't forget about us here in the forums!
As long as you're happy with it, that's what matters. Personally, going from a reasonably attractive phone (like the Pure Edition) to a comparatively ugly phone with an Oled display (like the Pixel 2 XL) would be a bit of a letdown for me. However, if the advancements made in terms of camera and hardware performance are worth it to you, don't let that stand in the way of personal progress.
Since you mentioned the speakers. They were actually a big surprise for me, when I got the X-Style.. The main reason I bought the X-style, was that it was oddly cheap here, when considering some very decent stats.. The fact that it had stereo speakers was just a bonus.. But they are really good.
I was basically shocked the first time I put on the teaser trailer for Agony, and got a good blast of, surprisingly non-tinny, music in my face =)
Overall, with the P2-XL being about 4 times the price of the X-style, I would expect the P2-XL to be better.. But so far I have been very happy with my X-style.. The only thing I can think of, that would improve the X-style, would be an Amoled display.. Like the X-Force has.. But the X-force is an ugly block, with no developer community, So here I am on the X-style board
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The only thing I can think of, that would improve the X-style, would be an Amoled display..
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Be careful what you wish for. The Moto X Pure Edition has one of the best displays in the business. A dingy old oled panel would've been a dealbreaker for me. If you want a Pure Edition-like phone with Oled, the Droid Turbo (or possibly the Nexus 6) is it. All of this phone's successors (the Moto Z series) have Oled panels, as do most of its predecessors.
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AmelFl said:
So I finally switched, after more than 2 years with the Moto X Pure. I had the Pixel 2 XL for about a week, here is my comparison.
Speed: No doubt the Pixel is far quicker, snappier, but anyone would have expected that.
Screen: I prefer the display of the Moto. Now you would think the size difference 6 vs 5.7 is huge, but when you play videos it seems like the width of the Moto gives you a bit more of the viewing experience. Theres is not a lot of difference with the quality of the display, the Pixel seemed to have a bit deeper blacks.
Camera: Pixels camera is just great, it almost consistently takes great pix. Love the night shots and the portrait mode. No comparison...
Speakers: I expected the Pixel speakers to be better, but after putting them side by side I found out that the Moto X Pure has speakers that are just a bit louder, just a tiny bit. Theres no audio quality difference
Build: Both phones are built well. Both feel heavy. The Moto X is thicker and the Pixel is lenghtier.
Forgot to mention the battery. The Pixel battery is amazing. I never had a phone last this long.
I think its a perfect upgrade.
Few things that would make the Pixel even better:
1. Additional wide angle lens like on the V30.
2. Minimize the height a bit
3. IP68
4. Chop chop for light
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I found that like you that the sound wasnt as good but what i really noticed was the call and cell quality and strength were subpar to the MXPE. My XL is on its way back to google. I just couldnt justify the cost. Meanwhile my MXPE is still fine..
I just got my Pixel 2 XL a few days ago and I'm absolutely loving the Pixel. My Moto X Pure will still likely go down as my favorite device of all time due to it's specs, price, and performance. When it comes to the Pixel 2 XL, don't believe the hype on the screen issues. The screen is fantastic on the XL, the blue shift that people are complaining about is there, but it's waay over exaggerated. All oled screens have some sort of color shift. My buddy has the Samsung S8+ which is supposed to be one of the top rated screens on any phone and it has worse blue shift than the Pixel 2 XL along with an overall red tone to the screen. The curved glass is sooo cool and really makes using the phone a pleasure. I didn't realize how much I would enjoy the curved glass until owning the device. The big thing I was concerned about with going with the Pixel was the lack of an external SD slot, but I'm not really all that concerned about it now. I bought a really nice usb C adapter that holds a micro sd card in it and also has a usb A connection to hook up to a PC. When I do my Titanium/TWRP backups, I just click that in and do my backups. Nice and easy. The speakers on the XL sound pretty good, I notice little to no difference. They are phone speakers after all, but they are stereo, front firing and do their job. The signal strength on the Pixel is unmatched. I'm amazed at how strong the wifi and cell signals are compared to my MXP. The build of the phone is great, and feels like the dollar amount invested. The immediate updates are one of the biggest things I like along with firmware being posted almost immediately from Google. No more hunting down/capturing OTA's or full firmware zips. As much as I enjoyed Moto Display, the Pixels ambient display on 8.1 is top notch, has double tap to wake, and we get a notification light back (which I really missed while using the MXP).
Overall, I'm very happy with the Pixel 2 XL. Lenavo really ruined the MXP and it's unlikely I'll ever go back to them unless they go back to the way Motorola originally set up their phone's update schedules. Right now as I type this I'm wiping my MXP and setting it up as a dedicated music media player for my car to replace my current old LG-G3. My battery is still strong on the MXP and I expect to get several more years of service out of it.
Hi All,
I'm torn between Pixel 7 and 7 Pro because of its size. I'm afraid I won't be able to get used to the 6.7" size and it will be awkwardly big. But the better camera, color, and design make this choice tough.
Is it comfortable to hold the 7 Pro? Isn't it frustratingly big? What are your thoughts on this?
I would appreciate any opinion about this which helps decide my dilemma.
What phone are you coming from? I went from the Pixel 3XL to the P7P and the P7P is about the same size. It is about the same with, but about a quarter inch taller. I think I have large hands, but I haven't really had an issue with the phone.
I'm coming from a Huawei P10 (5.1"), so it would be a big difference I don't have small hands either, so maybe I just have to get used to it.
Druantia said:
I'm coming from a Huawei P10 (5.1"), so it would be a big difference I don't have small hands either, so maybe I just have to get used to it.
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With the bezels on the p10 it won't be a huge size difference in the device itself. I think you will really like the 7 Pro vs the 7.
Coming from a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra the p7p seems just right (i.e. smaller)
I prefer the size (and flat screen) of the 7, as for the camera being better, I'd say more flexible not better and so far the zoom is concerned it isn't a patch on what my P6P was, it is ok'ish as 5x but the colours are washed out and not consistant with 1x , it is pretty soft and it is disappointing at any zoom after that, the P6P zoom was very respectable even at 15X. Hopefully Google will work on it.
Having AF on the ultrawide is a negative for me as well, i am getting landscape shots where either the foreground or the background are out of focus depending on if there is something in the frame in the middle to near distance, they should have stuck with a fixed lens at a hyperfocal distance and not bothered with the macro IMHO.
Druantia said:
Hi All,
I'm torn between Pixel 7 and 7 Pro because of its size. I'm afraid I won't be able to get used to the 6.7" size and it will be awkwardly big. But the better camera, color, and design make this choice tough.
Is it comfortable to hold the 7 Pro? Isn't it frustratingly big? What are your thoughts on this?
I would appreciate any opinion about this which helps decide my dilemma.
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The 6 and 7 pro's are *frustratingly SMALL*. They advertise a big screen, but they're incredibly NARROW screens and the display comes way too close to the edge of the phone without any bezels at all to hold onto it with.
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I prefer the size (and flat screen) of the 7, as for the camera being better, I'd say more flexible not better and so far the zoom is concerned it isn't a patch on what my P6P was, it is ok'ish as 5x but the colours are washed out and not consistant with 1x , it is pretty soft and it is disappointing at any zoom after that, the P6P zoom was very respectable even at 15X. Hopefully Google will work on it.
Having AF on the ultrawide is a negative for me as well, i am getting landscape shots where either the foreground or the background are out of focus depending on if there is something in the frame in the middle to near distance, they should have stuck with a fixed lens at a hyperfocal distance and not bothered with the macro IMHO.
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Macro is a much more important aspect of the camera for me, I would choose the pro because of the macro rather than the zoom functions. I have no problem with the curved display, I really like the look of it. I agree ultrawide shouldn't be autofocus though.
Thanks!
I just think you can achieve the same result by cropping an image and the cropped version looks less of a digital mush, it it was a true macro where you could get the compound eye on a fly etc. then id be all for that.
Only reason i prefer a flat screen is for glass screen protectors and the screen itself is of course a little less prone to damage.
Although I don't have the opportunity to test it myself, according to this site, you get much worse results when you crop the image:
Macro test
I heard that the curve is quite subtle, wonder if it helps with the slipperiness because I usually don't put any case on my phone.
When you open it fully you can see just how horrible the Pixel 7 Pro shot is, weirdly you can see more detail in the wood grain on the P7 shot which would imply they got the focusing just out.
As for the slippiness of the phone you will need a case or a skin, it is slippier than a block of wet ice competing in the wet ice championship on national wet ice week.
I've just taken a photo of my avatar on my 1440p monitor at 1X with macro on and 5x (no macro) at as near the closest i could get while keeping focus both are uncropped and as they came off the camera.
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I just think you can achieve the same result by cropping an image and the cropped version looks less of a digital mush, it it was a true macro where you could get the compound eye on a fly etc. then id be all for that.
Only reason i prefer a flat screen is for glass screen protectors and the screen itself is of course a little less prone to damage.
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+1 for the flatscreen
I upgraded from a OnePlus 3. I was initially concerned about P7P's size but got used to it as most people suggest. I'm still not a fan of its proportions/width and the remote control look but it's one con—everything else about the phone has been a great experience.