Ability to disable "Strong Protection" option gone! - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

I just noticed after a reboot that after unlocking my phone I saw "Phone is starting" and immediately went to look for the "Strong Protection" option to disable this but it is no longer available! I can no longer disable this feature like on my Note 10+ or my previous Note 8 (went under different name iirc on the Note 8) but why in the ****ing hell would Samdung remove this option to disable this feature?
I can no longer allow my phone to reboot overnight once a week and what if it crashes and reboots on it's own overnight? I can no longer rely on my phone for my alarms because they won't go off if the phone isn't unlocked after a reboot to finish the startup process. This FBE and lack of being able to disable it is pissing me off! Samdung always 2 steps forwards but 3 steps back with their infinite stupidity sometimes!
I checked "Biometrics and security->Other security settings" and there is NO "Strong Protection" option present anymore. I used the search field in the options to look for it and nothing shows up when searching for strong protection, fbe, file-based encryption, etc. and I went through every option meticulously twice to see if it had some idiotic name now in an illogical location but it does not exist anymore. Am I blind or did Samsung actually remove this option completely, and if so, why would they do this?!?!

My alarms go off after a weekly overnight scheduled restart, even if the phone is still locked and requires a pin/pattern.
I am using Samsung's alarm app but it also works with "Wakey" alarm app.
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apprentice said:
My alarms go off after a weekly overnight scheduled restart, even if the phone is still locked and requires a pin/pattern.
I am using Samsung's alarm app but it also works with "Wakey" alarm app.
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I remember early with my Note 10+ the alarms wouldn't go off after the nightly automatic reboot until I disabled strong protection since nothing would startup on the phone until you enter your password and watch the phone say "Phone is starting". Maybe that was changed then that alarms will still go off? I'll test it out and set the auto reboot soon with an alarm shortly after and see what happens but it never allowed the alarms before unless strong protection was disabled.

so I just tested and so far it actually worked so basically it's not that strong protection exists and can't be disabled, it's just that starting up after reboots are SLOW AF!

nighthawk29 said:
so I just tested and so far it actually worked so basically it's not that strong protection exists and can't be disabled, it's just that starting up after reboots are SLOW AF!
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It's still secure though as you can't actually do anything else until you unlock. It makes sense to allow the alarms to get through.
Well at least you can be assured it will wake you up now!
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apprentice said:
It's still secure though as you can't actually do anything else until you unlock. It makes sense to allow the alarms to get through.
Well at least you can be assured it will wake you up now!
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Ya glad I can rely on my alarms and alerts from calendar notifications. Missed a couple on my Note 10 last year until I disabled that so seeing the "Phone is starting" and then not finding the option to disable strong protection had me worried since Samsung has done stupid things in the past I thought they were continuing that trend but glad to see I was wrong lol.

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Ya glad I can rely on my alarms and alerts from calendar notifications. Missed a couple on my Note 10 last year until I disabled that so seeing the "Phone is starting" and then not finding the option to disable strong protection had me worried since Samsung has done stupid things in the past I thought they were continuing that trend but glad to see I was wrong lol.
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Well you can always rely on someone here on XDA to help you out! I have been here for 15 years no less!
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apprentice said:
Well you can always rely on someone here on XDA to help you out! I have been here for 15 years no less!
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Yep, love XDA. Been here a while too when a friend told me about it and best place to find info and help. Especially since I started installing roms on my Galaxy S3 I used it a lot more as this place was invaluable for all the info to get started with romming my android phones.

nighthawk29 said:
Yep, love XDA. Been here a while too when a friend told me about it and best place to find info and help. Especially since I started installing roms on my Galaxy S3 I used it a lot more as this place was invaluable for all the info to get started with romming my android phones.
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I started with an XDA phone on Tmo; xda developers is the best place to be.

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[Q] Missed call unlocks screen

Hi, I searched the forum but had no luck:
Completely new Nexus 5, White 16GB, and I have this issue:
When i receive and miss a call, as soon as the ringer stops the phone automatically shows the unlocked homescreen and it just stays there, instead of locking itself normally. This is really weird, and happens even if the phone is in my pocket (so it's not sensor-related like whatsapp pop-ups for example). Also not really safe i'd say. If I select another lockscreen method, it behaves normally (showing, for example, unlock pattern for a certain amount of time before turning the monitor off again.)
Anyone experiencing the same issue?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1q04f7/nexus_5_unlocks_itself_after_a_missed_call/
This is the only other reporting I found on the web. Can anyone test this? It's really fast and easy, and I think this could be a pretty serious issue.
My phone (pin locked) doesn't do that. Phone stays locked. Is your phone kept unlocked?
jj14 said:
My phone (pin locked) doesn't do that. Phone stays locked. Is your phone kept unlocked?
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Yes. I don't really like the pin/passcode unlock (also don't really need it). Classic slide is simple and fast enough, but it's crazy that it stays unlocked after a missed call.
Also, I noticed that it automatically enters the last application that was open the last time you locked it, creating even more concerns (last online on messaging applications, online status in facebook, ecc.)
Just imagine you boss calling you, with no luck, and founding out a second later you're online in Facebook. Just because you were ignoring your phone, while driving for example.
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Yes. I don't really like the pin/passcode unlock (also don't really need it). Classic slide is simple and fast enough, but it's crazy that it stays unlocked after a missed call.
Also, I noticed that it automatically enters the last application that was open the last time you locked it, creating even more concerns (last online on messaging applications, online status in facebook, ecc.)
Just imagine you boss calling you, with no luck, and founding out a second later you're online in Facebook. Just because you were ignoring your phone, while driving for example.
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I agree - that should not be the expected behavior
nexus5 32gb here, exactly the same behavior.. I had to enable a pin/password unlock method because every missed call would unlock my phone, even in my pocket..
I have the same issue.
Maybe it is because of the app Light Flow Lite ?
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I have the same issue.
Maybe it is because of the app Light Flow Lite ?
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I thought this as well, but then I tried it on my friends N5 and had the same behavior, without light flow. I think many of us actually discovered this trying notifications in Light Flow (i bought the pro version) but it's not related to that.
kowloon12 said:
nexus5 32gb here, exactly the same behavior.. I had to enable a pin/password unlock method because every missed call would unlock my phone, even in my pocket..
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Me too, but I hate it because I can't swipe down from the top to quickly see my notification without unlocking the device first.
Let me know if you guys have any advice on this issue, also report it in this thread to keep it bumped and see if anyone is reporting any solution.
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Me too, but I hate it because I can't swipe down from the top to quickly see my notification without unlocking the device first.
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exactly this, it was so useful to just throw a glance to the notifications to decide if open them or simply clean them away
Yes same here, this looks to be a bug surely?
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OK thanks,
I reported the problem on google discussion (I copy/paste our first topic because you explained the problem very well ^^).
the URL:
"https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-5/KML5nWW9q6o"
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OK thanks,
I reported the problem on google discussion (I copy/paste our first topic because you explained the problem very well ^^).
the URL:
"https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-5/KML5nWW9q6o"
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Nice one, I have posted in that discussion as well. Hopefully we will get a response.
Others have the same problem, do you know how to report a problem to google ?
I just tried it on my phone, called from my desk number, missed call. It did open the phone all the way, but the screen turned back off in 5 seconds, per my settings.
My phones is currently stock, have not rooted or unlocked the bootloader yet. Only UI modification apps are Widgetzoid and Dashclock, I wanted to stay stock for a bit.
Sorry, that you are having issues. Unfortunately sometimes the easiest way to figure out what is causing the problems is to do a factory reset, and re-dowload your apps one by one, to see what is causing the problem.
Ok, but a several people have the same issue ...
Anyway, I think I will tri not to miss a call whenever the phone is in my pocket !
Zandeer said:
I just tried it on my phone, called from my desk number, missed call. It did open the phone all the way, but the screen turned back off in 5 seconds, per my settings.
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I don't like setting the screen timeout so short, many thimes i just place the phone on my desk while messaging and I want the screen to stay on, for at least 2 minutes.
And when I lock my phone to keep it in my pocket, it's supposed to stay locked and ignore any unintended touches as soon as i slide to unlock, which was originally introduced to prevent an unlock by accident. Yes, I could lower my screen timeout to 5 seconds, but that does not solve the problem because still unintended touches can occur in that time frame.
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I don't like setting the screen timeout so short, many thimes i just place the phone on my desk while messaging and I want the screen to stay on, for at least 2 minutes.
And when I lock my phone to keep it in my pocket, it's supposed to stay locked and ignore any unintended touches as soon as i slide to unlock, which was originally introduced to prevent an unlock by accident. Yes, I could lower my screen timeout to 5 seconds, but that does not solve the problem because still unintended touches can occur in that time frame.
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I wasn't sing o set your screen lock time to what I have it set at, I was just saying that it did re-lock. However, you are right, IMO it should not completely unlock the screen when the phone is ringing.
Though I have never not had a passcode on my phone, so not sure if that is how it always behaves. Was just trying to test and be helpful.
I sent a message to the google team, let's wait and see.
here is a link to see the bug :"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSTq8Xhe6Kc&"
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I wasn't sing o set your screen lock time to what I have it set at, I was just saying that it did re-lock. However, you are right, IMO it should not completely unlock the screen when the phone is ringing.
Though I have never not had a passcode on my phone, so not sure if that is how it always behaves. Was just trying to test and be helpful.
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Thanks for testing, I was wondering if this could have been related to root / unlocked bootloader somehow but you have confirmed this is not the case as it happens on a totally stock phone.
good catch there. same issue here.
at least a Google employee has responded to the topic created HERE. Maybe that will expedite then pushing out an update ASAP.

Random Notification Sounds?

Maybe someone else can help me with this.
Every so often during the day I keep getting a random notification sound with no visual as to what it is. The sound is 5 tones going in a descending pattern and sounds metallic. I do not have NFC turned on nor the facebook app. I checked all my apps and sounds. I even read a lot of threads else where and tried everyone's suggestion. Still does it. I searched my phone for *.ogg and *.wav files. Nothing.
I do have a wallet case but since NFC is off its not that. I've never heard this sound before. It only started a few days ago and I've have this phone for over a month. FYI I'm running the Hola launcher and omni swipe if that helps. Any suggestions?
I am thinking to uninstall ALL my apps and see if it still does it, but I really dont want to have to do that if I can avoid it.:silly:
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Anyone?
Maybe it's the louncher. .. trai with the touchwiz
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It's not the launcher. It doesn't matter.
This is why I hardly ask anything here. No one cares.
If your not a popular member you never get a reply.
I'll just ask my questions elsewhere where people actually care about you.
Are you using googles smartlock feature? When I first started using it I was receiving this weird notification which sounds like what you're talking about. It don't do it no more for some reason but man was it so annoying not knowing what the heck your phone is trying to tell you.
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Hey there.
I have been checking back on this topic for a while because my wife's Note Edge is having the same exact problem. I even reached out to Samsung Mobile Support and they can't even figure out what it is. All they did was tinker with the sound settings and asked me if it was fixed. I have tried disabling all possible notifications from all possible apps. The only thing left is to do a factory reset it seems. Any luck on your end?
VGMStudios said:
It's not the launcher. It doesn't matter.
This is why I hardly ask anything here. No one cares.
If your not a popular member you never get a reply.
I'll just ask my questions elsewhere where people actually care about you.
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Well that's not a pessimistic attitude or anything whatsoever! lol. Here's the thing... It might help to try and remember that nobody is on here getting paid to spend their time answering your questions all day long, so unfortunately it's inevitable that there will be times when people might just have to figure their problems out on their own or just be forced to wait until someone responds.. no matter how "popular" they might be.
This entire community wouldn't exist if weren't for all of the people on here who have been and are willing to spend their own free time sharing their knowledge with and helping others, so it's pretty ridiculous to sit there and act like it's a personal assault whenever nobody answers your question right away! From my experience on here people (including myself) are always more than willing to help out whenever they can (as long as the people are willing to help themselves too), but since nobody is getting paid people need to realize that it's more of a "self help" type of community than anything.
There are literally mountains of freely available information for people to search through to try to find their answers with, and with enough determination and persistence 99% of the time people could answer their own questions without ever even having to ask. So I'm definitely not trying to be rude or anything but it's just all in how you look at it.. because when people come here expecting to be handed all of the answers then they're most likely going to be disappointed and upset, but when you come here looking to help yourself instead you'd be surprised how much of a difference it makes and how rarely you'll have to ask any questions.
Anyway I'll try helping with some suggestions below since they're having the same problem too..
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Hey there.
I have been checking back on this topic for a while because my wife's Note Edge is having the same exact problem. I even reached out to Samsung Mobile Support and they can't even figure out what it is. All they did was tinker with the sound settings and asked me if it was fixed. I have tried disabling all possible notifications from all possible apps. The only thing left is to do a factory reset it seems. Any luck on your end?
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Ok I've actually had a similar problem in the past and I can't guarantee anything but hopefully this might help..
In my situation it turned out being "profiles" that I didn't realize were turned on, and they were causing rogue and unknown sounds to happen because they were overriding my ringer and media volume settings based on the time of day it was. So all I had to do was turn off the profiles and it solved the problem, but it depends on the rom that you're on as to whether or not profiles like that are even an option.
If not another thing I'd recommend doing (and I'm obviously not sure what all you've tried so I'm just trying to cover the bases just in case) is to get a root explorer (as long as you're rooted.. if not I'm honestly not sure what to tell ya) and navigate to the root folder .. then go to "system/media", and inside there should be a folders called ui, notification, and ringtones.. and this where all of the default notification sounds are located. I would go through and listen to each one of them (they should be .ogg files) and see if you can find a match to the one you're hearing, and if you do then you can just rename that file .bak instead of .ogg and that should stop it from playing randomly (basically a bandaid type fix).
If it's not any of the system sounds then you've basically narrowed it down to where it's most likely an app that's making the sound. If that's the case then what I'd do is go into Titanium Backup and filter it to only show "user apps" and then have it sort them by the date which they were installed, and then I'd just start going down the list looking for apps I've installed that could possibly be making the sound.. that way even if you have a general idea around when the problem started happening you can match that time frame up with apps that were installed around that time to narrow down your search (if that makes sense anyway).
Anyway that's what I would do to start at least and hopefully it helps!
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heh. I have an idea. You know those crappy applications on the edge? Some of them are games. I remember i used to have this issue with the memory one. Remove them from the edge. No root required. Just remove the panels from the panel configurator.
VGMStudios said:
Maybe someone else can help me with this.
Every so often during the day I keep getting a random notification sound with no visual as to what it is. The sound is 5 tones going in a descending pattern and sounds metallic. I do not have NFC turned on nor the facebook app. I checked all my apps and sounds. I even read a lot of threads else where and tried everyone's suggestion. Still does it. I searched my phone for *.ogg and *.wav files. Nothing.
I do have a wallet case but since NFC is off its not that. I've never heard this sound before. It only started a few days ago and I've have this phone for over a month. FYI I'm running the Hola launcher and omni swipe if that helps. Any suggestions?
I am thinking to uninstall ALL my apps and see if it still does it, but I really dont want to have to do that if I can avoid it.:silly:
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Not sure if this is gonna help you or not. But yesterday I started to getbthe same metallic noises, I only recall 1 change to my settings and that was installing the live wallpaper on the lock screen to show me pictures based in weather and such. And since then every hour or so it makes the sound. Try to find out if you did the same thing.
Random notification sound
I am having a similar problem which has been widely reported but none of the suggested fixes are working for me. The notification tone keeps sounding in a seemingly random way. There is no notification to match the tone. This is not just a beep or random noise. It is the default notification tone. (Skyline for completeness). This happens maybe 5 or 6 times in 24 hours. It has been happening for about 10 days.
I am running Android 8.0.0 (Samsung Experience version 9) on a Galaxy S8. The phone is not rooted.
I have turned off all notifications individually.
I have turned off notifications for the phone.
I have turned off notification reminders (it was never on).
I have turned off NFC and bluetooth.
I have checked under Accessibility settings.
I have uninstalled every app installed in the last 3 weeks.
I can reproduce the NFC and credit card issue but that is a single beep and not what I am talking about.
I have installed 3 different notification log readers (NS Notification, Notif log notification history and Notification Log). None of them show any activity at the times when I am getting the spurious tone.
When I re-enable notifications for Texts, Messenger and WhatsApp, I still receive these as normal.
I recently got a new dual band router and thought maybe the tone was the phone jumping from 2.4 to the 5 Ghz band or vice-versa. It wasn't. I thought it might be the phone jumping from telecoms provider to WiFi. Tested that too and that's not it.
Next step is a factory reset which I am trying to avoid.
I know this is bringing problems to the table, not solutions but this is really bugging me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Anyone having buyers remorse?

Well, one week till CES where Huawei will announce the US version. Getting excited! But I was wondering. Anyone have buyers remorse at this point? Do you like the Mate 8 more or less as time goes on?
No buyer's remorse here.. I'm quite sure if a N/A version is released there will an accompanying rom as well..
popcity said:
No buyer's remorse here.. I'm quite sure if a N/A version is released there will an accompanying rom as well..
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Thanks. I'm trying to decide whether to get the Mate 8 (Great specs and build), Blu Pure XL (very good specs, cheap, its been rooted and has TWRP - also some promise for developer support) or stay pat with my Note Edge (I do like the edge features and it's screen is basically as wide as the Mate 8, just not as tall. also Marshmallow arrives in the next few months hopefully). Decisions decisions....
mscion said:
Thanks. I'm trying to decide whether to get the Mate 8 (Great specs and build), Blu Pure XL (very good specs, cheap, its been rooted and has TWRP - also some promise for developer support) or stay pat with my Note Edge (I do like the edge features and it's screen is basically as wide as the Mate 8, just not as tall. also Marshmallow arrives in the next few months hopefully). Decisions decisions....
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Yeah, it all comes down to how much do you want to spend.. I bought the 128GB version, I had the Mate 7 so I knew what to expect..
If I could only get notifications working properly then I would be 100% happy.
altaz said:
If I could only get notifications working properly then I would be 100% happy.
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Notifications panel & status bar in settings and permission manager for the apps that are not notifying you.. Hope that helps..
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Notifications panel & status bar in settings and permission manager for the apps that are not notifying you.. Hope that helps..
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Been there done that, been through every option and nothing helps. Reading around, this seems to be a common bug with emui, and the only way around this is to disable phone manager or make the apps system apps. Which can't be done without root. So, right now I am playing a waiting game.
altaz said:
Been there done that, been through every option and nothing helps. Reading around, this seems to be a common bug with emui, and the only way around this is to disable phone manager or make the apps system apps. Which can't be done without root. So, right now I am playing a waiting game.
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altaz,
Similar problems have been noted in some of the other threads. Is it possible that the problem you are experiencing isn't due to actual notification issues, but that the apps you are expecting notifications from are not currently being permitted to run in the background when the phone's screen is turned off?
I'm not sure which apps you are having trouble with, but for example, with Whatsapp(?). If this sounds like it might be the issue for you (and you haven't already looked into this), try going into Settings-->Advanced settings-->Battery manager-->Protected apps and allow those apps that should be receiving notifications.
As to the original question of the thread, no remorse. So far so good. A pretty sleek, powerful phone. Just need to get it rooted.
Might be the interactions between marshmelow & emui, if that is the case a fix should only be imenent.
Nevertheless, try this ---> battery manager itself; click on the setting icon up left of the screen, you need to switch on (Keep mobile data on when sleeping).
Of course that is in congunction with the rest of the settings/permissions.
Good luck,
No buyers remorse here. Having recently had a P8Max I knew what to expect with regards to setting up notifications and permissions so they work, and for me currently no particular problems. The camera is not as good as the best of 2015, or even 2014, but I had realistic expectations there and the camera is performing well enough for me in light of the other benefits.
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altaz,
Similar problems have been noted in some of the other threads. Is it possible that the problem you are experiencing isn't due to actual notification issues, but that the apps you are expecting notifications from are not currently being permitted to run in the background when the phone's screen is turned off?
I'm not sure which apps you are having trouble with, but for example, with Whatsapp(?). If this sounds like it might be the issue for you (and you haven't already looked into this), try going into Settings-->Advanced settings-->Battery manager-->Protected apps and allow those apps that should be receiving notifications.
As to the original question of the thread, no remorse. So far so good. A pretty sleek, powerful phone. Just need to get it rooted.
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Seems this notification problem is becoming more annoying, i have turned on everything possible (permissions, auto start, notifications, ignore optimizations). I even found another layer of settings in the apps settings that allow a deeper level of changes (settings > Apps > Advanced) . And still i can't get emails to notify when the phone is in standby. This is even after i have left the email application on, and turned the turned the phone off via the power button. i've spent a number of hours sending myself emails in various conditions and while might get the notifications sometimes, others i may not so this doesn't help narrow down the cause.
I have now realized that it's not just emails that are affected, i don't get auto notifications in Google Photos or Rewards, and some apps which run on schedule. The google apps only update when i open the app. which is useless for apps like Rewards, since the surveys expire after 24 hours, so go knows how many i have missed since i moved this this phone. I've never had this type of problem with any other android phone, and i;ve had a fair number of them over the years. At this point, since i am not able to return the phone i am thinking that i might have to do a factory reset, and hope for the best.
altaz said:
Seems this notification problem is becoming more annoying, i have turned on everything possible (permissions, auto start, notifications, ignore optimizations). I even found another layer of settings in the apps settings that allow a deeper level of changes (settings > Apps > Advanced) . And still i can't get emails to notify when the phone is in standby. This is even after i have left the email application on, and turned the turned the phone off via the power button. i've spent a number of hours sending myself emails in various conditions and while might get the notifications sometimes, others i may not so this doesn't help narrow down the cause.
I have now realized that it's not just emails that are affected, i don't get auto notifications in Google Photos or Rewards, and some apps which run on schedule. The google apps only update when i open the app. which is useless for apps like Rewards, since the surveys expire after 24 hours, so go knows how many i have missed since i moved this this phone. I've never had this type of problem with any other android phone, and i;ve had a fair number of them over the years. At this point, since i am not able to return the phone i am thinking that i might have to do a factory reset, and hope for the best.
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altaz, no need mine works now. just follow my previous post in this thread.
Just got mine today. No remorse here, and hey there might be a rom to flash once the US variant comes out. I love this phone.
I'll have buyers remorse if one of these other A72 devices gets the same battery life and camera for <$400
I love it coming from note 5. No regrets. Glad i didnt wait for mobile congress as i was very dissapointed with both lg and samsung. Love the mate 8
i agree, while LG had some nifty ideas regarding that modularity, all in all im not much impressed with either the G5 or S7 line... happy camper with my mate 8 indeed
This is probably the first phone I ever got that I didn't get buyers remorse hours after buying it. I've come from a S5, S4 and original Note before.
hours after buying? only phone? well that sounds like someone didnt do proper research first
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Hello.
I am from germany. My Mate 8 is a chinese one with original B162 Rom. Notifications don`t work for me.
What i did:
data in sleep mode enabled
apps are allowed to stay active at sleep
notification in priority mode
rooted device
made WhatsApp and Android Wear (for my huawei watch) to system apps with Titanium Backup (i bought it before ...)
freeze phone manager
I dont`t get my notifications all the time. Very bad are notifications for my huawei watch. My phone rings (WhatsApp), but my watch doenst. Then i start the Android Wear app and the notifications are pushed to my watch.
The phone is ok. I am coming from Samsung S6 Edge+. But the notifications MUST come always.
What else can i try?
(sorry for my bad english)
I had only notification issues with whatsapp - however the situation has improved greatly after I installed the app Push Notification fixer ( no root version)
Now I'd say missed notifications is very very much lessen, probably around 10+ % only
All my other apps eg Maildroid ( only mail app I used), Friendcaster, some newsfeed app, XDA etc no notification problems at all
Mine is China set on B156 firmware ( non rooted)

Smart Lock - Lots of Issues

I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I tried to enable Smart Lock and have run into a couple issues which no amount of searching gave way to results. I'm on a stock unrooted device.
Is there a way to make this feature work based on location? Seems to not work in locations where I set it to. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling google play services to no avail. Rebooting does nothing to fix.
Sometimes when I try to view the Smart Lock settings, after entering the pin/pattern nothing appears in the menu at all. Very buggy. Does this feature just plain suck or something? I'd rather not use face unlock, but this might force me to.
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I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
thejase said:
I have issues like this. Supposedly, smart Lock not working by location is a bug from Google not op. It is very hit or miss
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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I wonder if this is an Oreo issue and if it will be fixed in P. Very annoying. I may just drop security all together. I didn't have it on my last phone for over 3 years. I like the idea of it, but not being able to unlock the phone while driving and at "trusted" places is pretty useless.
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Agreed
And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
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And the fingerprint unlock not fast enough for you. I do it in one motion. Pick up phone and unlock just like that
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
@thejase
I get that but I don't use it as I'm the opposite phone should be locked when not in my hand never know what will happen,who may come over to visit I have lots of nieces and nephews. One who grabs any phone he can.
But I meant it to be fast enough that it's as if it's not locked.
If you want to stick with
Smart lock have you tried use the voice feature it may work.
Also look into Tasker I seem to remember someone using it to unlock the device based on location. I use it to turn on and off my Wi-Fi based on location. Auto start my music when in my truck.
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It has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with convenience. Let's not forget that GOOGLE is the one who added the feature. Oreo has been out, in general, for a while. It should just plain work. If I'm at home, why should there be a lock on my device? When I'm out however, it just makes sense to be locked down. Adding a feature that actually doesn't work or works some of the time, is something you'd think they'd have caught during Oreo testing at Google; particularly, as it's an issue with Android, not manufacturers. Even my wife's Galaxy S9+ has this issue.
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Seems to be working better today. Disabled the "smart lock" in trust agents setting under fingerprint and security, then booted to the stock recovery and wiped the cache only. (I'm not rooted yet, but TWRP would work for this as well). Seems to have led to a fix, but it could be temporary. As for usefulness of smart lock, I am not worried about others in my own home taking my device and combing through it for all I care. If you have kids or are concerned about content on your phone being messed with, just don't use the feature. For a lot of people, it is a useful feature to have.
This issue has returned and requires a cache wipe almost every day. Beyond annoyed. I am considering deleting my fingerprints or any security. Pretty stupid feature that makes the phone require a password every single time I want to use it, when this feature could have alleviated that in so many places where I know my phone is safe (home, work, car).
Oneplus 6 - Phone unlocks with smart lock off on Android P
I don't use smart lock option in my phone but after upgrading to Android P, even when the smart lock option is off, my phone screen opens when picked immediately as it is supposed to show the screen is locked. Any suggestions please

Do notifications work with screen off or not?

Hi all. In this Video the reviewer states that he isn't getting any notifications with the screen off. Also it is a problem for one of our members. Is anyone else having these hassles? Do you get incoming text, email AUDIO notifications without waking the phone?
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I have no issue with notification at all..
Even when screen is off ..
U do have to active notification from each app setting and alow all permissins...
Also keep in maind to keep app running remove battery restriction from app setting also..
All will work normal
Working for me but I did need to grant WhatsApp and Trurcaller lots of permissions.
I even got True Edge installed for a visual way to get notified and that works brilliantly with the device asleep with screen off.
I was a bit surprised at the extra level of permissions needed. It's all gravy now, but I could see why a reviewer or somebody unaware would get caught out
But yes, I am getting notifications with the screen off in sound and visually, without having to wake the phone.
Indeed at first I wasn't getting any notifications but then I discovered you need to go into the app info and give permission for notifications and turn off battery saver.. now it works perfect and only for the apps I want
The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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The video the OP posted is exactly whats happening to me. I have all the settings as described. Battery saver turned off and even when into each apps settings and allowed ALL permissions just to see if it would work. As the video says, notifications come, but you have to wake the device to see them, there is no sound or anything on screen until the device is woke. Exactly as the video describes. I do hope its fixed soon, I am back to using my Note 5 whilst my beautiful 10 Ultra sits in its box.
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Have you undone your earlier modifications to the phone (copying files from phone to phone etc)?
You have two problems and the one to ignore for now is louder notifications. It's notifications at all.
It isn't something to fix from Xiaomi's view and it is always worth learning the software. I don't like it myself... It can be cloying etc.
But the default behaviour is to opt in to notifications. It's working as intended. That said look where we are, it's just your problems are a special case. No biggie, let's fix this!
You have an outstanding issue clouding this where you are trying to use unexplained files on the device (like seriously what format are they? Does it work in Music or anything? Have you tried removing them?)
Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
Thanks all for answering my question! I think this is my last question before buying from Liaow.com, if the syncing isn't a constant problem. Does anyone have a major syncing problem as explained in this review? Once or twice a day I can deal with. I check the calendar throughout the day like most people. However if I get busy and forget, missing calendar events/alarms wouldn't work for me. I'd be forced to use my work iPhone<shudder> for calendar events lol.
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Took a while but I get all my notifications now when screen is off, see 2vattached screen shots
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How did you get the icons to show on the lock screen?
Mine doesn't. Quite annoying.
Also sometimes the lockscreen doesn't show me notifications even tho they are there.. :s
I have no issues with icons displaying while locked. You do need to enable them and ensure they start automatically and power control is turned off for the app. It has been much easier in the EU ROM for some reason.
Solution!
Here is the thing that helped me with the same notification issue! Just google "xiaomi mi 10 ultra notifications" and in the top 5 links you'll probably find an article from: theunpopulartraveller. It explains the settings, and they need to be accessed by pressing and holding the app icon ^ app info.
Don't give up, try and you'll get the sounds from needed apps back. And ye, actually now I find the way Xiaomi did it much more convenient: I just turned on notifications for 2 apps, and all the rest are silent, while previously I had to turn off all the rest of the apps (much more than 2, definitely) not to get disturbed by all the bull****.
EU Rom doesn't have the "importance" option at 30/31
Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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Disable adaptive notifications from setting. I dont know what google thinking when creating such feature.
it basically interrupt the whole notification process. Using so called Ai to decide, when to give you notifications or when not to. But most of the time it pick wrong decision and delay our notification altogether.
This is android feature since Q thus also causing problem on Pixel phone. On xiaomi seems like it suddenly got worse on Android 11
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Well after trying to update to 12.1.1 and seeing what a buggy heap of junk it was, I factory reset, installed 12.0.15, and formatted data. But now notifications don't work when the screen is off whatsoever, absolutely no notifications. Beautiful. I'm so sick of the software issues with this phone, I'm definitely never buying another Xiaomi phone at this point.
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How did u manage to roll back to 12.0.15?
Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
Sathelp said:
Get over to the EU ROM version. Lock screen notifications work fine.
Have you checked each notification that it has no battery optimisation set, also, check in notifications that each one has access to the lock screen. Since A11, notifications have been a pain but for some reason they do work much better on the EU ROM.
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There are issues for Gpay and some banking / local safetynet apps for EU ROM which i do not wish to live with.
Somehow the props file in the eu rom causes those issues.
i am probably going to rollback to 12.0.15... now is the excruciating 160 hours wait for unlock.
You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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You obviously don't follow the EU forums. GPay works, safeynet works and my UK bank works. But you also get everything plus more than the Chinese stock and all updates are based on both weekly and stable stock ROMs respectively.
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i don't follow it to the tee, but i've seen some reports of some users not able to use gpay out of the stable roms.
that's why.. too much trouble.. i'll see what i can do when the unlock timer is up..

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