Anyone know if hongkong variant of any samsung device compatible with Usa 4g and 5g - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra Questions & Answers

I pre-ordered a Us note 20 ultra a couple days ago and its coming in a couple of hours and im just now reading there is no oem unlocking option for who knows why. But anyway im gonna return it and preorder a hongkong variant of the note 20 ultra on wandamobile. Its snapdragon and allows the bootloader to be unlocked and i was just wondering if anyone from the Us used a hongkong device before and hows the 4g support? Also i dont know if im ever going to use 5g but does it support 5g bands in the Us? Please let me know because im about to go thru a lot of trouble just to get it haha

Hong Kong variant doesn't support 5G bands used in US.

I use this in usa with t-mobile and att sim. 4g works without issue

KURDKiNG said:
I pre-ordered a Us note 20 ultra a couple days ago and its coming in a couple of hours and im just now reading there is no oem unlocking option for who knows why. But anyway im gonna return it and preorder a hongkong variant of the note 20 ultra on wandamobile. Its snapdragon and allows the bootloader to be unlocked and i was just wondering if anyone from the Us used a hongkong device before and hows the 4g support? Also i dont know if im ever going to use 5g but does it support 5g bands in the Us? Please let me know because im about to go thru a lot of trouble just to get it haha
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https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra

Going by https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-sm-n986-n985-model-number-differences/
The AWS band 4 3G is missing on the Hong Kong variant but it’s present on the SM-N985F variant same with LTE band 66.
Would that matter too much ? I’m thinking if you’re using Ting maybe.

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How to enable carrier aggregation on Note 20 Ultra?

Hi Guys,
Does anyone know how to enable carrier aggregation on unlocked Note 20 Ultra (Hong Kong version but should be the same for all other regions)?
Thanks!
Hi,
It's enabled by default, and I doubt you can disable it unless you force it to use only one band (with Activity Launcher, search for a phone activity with the word "hidden"), but even then you won't be able to turn off intra band aggregation.
You can see if your phone connects well to multiple frequencies with an app called NetMonster
Nastrahl said:
Hi,
It's enabled by default, and I doubt you can disable it unless you force it to use only one band (with Activity Launcher, search for a phone activity with the word "hidden"), but even then you won't be able to turn off intra band aggregation.
You can see if your phone connects well to multiple frequencies with an app called NetMonster
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Thanks a lot!
The problem is that I imported the Snapdragon version from Hong Kong and it seems (from what I read about imported S20 Ultra) it doesnt have EU specific carrier aggregation so needs to be changed via Qualcomm tools and PC.
So I wanted to know the method for Note 20 too.
We don't know Carrier Aggregation combinations what HK-version support but there is way to list these from modem log. I think HK-version have Qualcomm so SCAT-method is best: https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...tions-from-your-android-phone/#Scat_(Qualcomm
What region you try use? In Europe i think Carrier Aggregation should work but in US i think it doesn't support any combinations. If you just share QMDL modem log i can list all Carrier Aggregation combinations from your device.
VirtualWaver said:
Hi Guys,
Does anyone know how to enable carrier aggregation on unlocked Note 20 Ultra (Hong Kong version but should be the same for all other regions)?
Thanks!
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Is 4g lte fast for you considering we only have limited bands working in our regions
KURDKiNG said:
Is 4g lte fast for you considering we only have limited bands working in our regions
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Actually, carrier aggregation worked out of the box, without any fancy setup. Depending on network strength it shows either 2 or 3 bands combined.
So this issue is resolved.
VirtualWaver said:
Hi Guys,
Does anyone know how to enable carrier aggregation on unlocked Note 20 Ultra (Hong Kong version but should be the same for all other regions)?
Thanks!
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VirtualWaver said:
Actually, carrier aggregation worked out of the box, without any fancy setup. Depending on network strength it shows either 2 or 3 bands combined.
So this issue is resolved.
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But let me guess your in Europe. I heard The hong Kong varients carrier aggression would not work in The us, thats what im afraid of because i only have 3 4g bands thats gonna work with my carrier and im afraid 4G will be slow for me
KURDKiNG said:
But let me guess your in Europe. I heard The hong Kong varients carrier aggression would not work in The us, thats what im afraid of because i only have 3 4g bands thats gonna work with my carrier and im afraid 4G will be slow for me
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Yes, I live in the UK and HK version works like a dream - except 5G that doesn't work yet...
And, yes, it should not fully work in the US as the bands are different. But in the US you guys have native Snapdragon variant (1 sim though) that should do it.
VirtualWaver said:
Yes, I live in the UK and HK version works like a dream - except 5G that doesn't work yet...
And, yes, it should not fully work in the US as the bands are different. But in the US you guys have native Snapdragon variant (1 sim though) that should do it.
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So I ordered A us note 20 ultra then i read on here that these past couple of North American samsung devices Arent been able to be rooted, I didn’t know this because my last Samsung phone was a s8+ but anyway i returned it and ordered the N980 varient because im a dumbass and i have never been on a android phone without root and i have owned androids for over 8 years. I just Hope the 4g service is not bad, I already sacrificed 5g for it but i need 4g ?:crying:
KURDKiNG said:
So I ordered A us note 20 ultra then i read on here that these past couple of North American samsung devices Arent been able to be rooted, I didn’t know this because my last Samsung phone was a s8+ but anyway i returned it and ordered the N980 varient because im a dumbass and i have never been on a android phone without root and i have owned androids for over 8 years. I just Hope the 4g service is not bad, I already sacrificed 5g for it but i need 4g :crying:
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I also migrated from S8 and the difference is huge.
I was also a heavy root user but stopped rooting phones as use Knox and banking apps heavily and neither works with root. TBH I didn't miss root much, we can do almost everything without rooting nowadays.
Hi Guys. Anybody can explain me why Note 20 ultra Hk version with Snapdragon Dual Sim doesn't work on 5G. I'm on UK on EE network, my brand new Note 20 Ultra just show me on the screen 4G+ speed. Is the problem with only that model on EE? Please help me. I got EE plan with 5G essential plan. Just want now is that model Sm-n9860 is compatible working on 5G in UK Networks.
fotor2r said:
Hi Guys. Anybody can explain me why Note 20 ultra Hk version with Snapdragon Dual Sim doesn't work on 5G. I'm on UK on EE network, my brand new Note 20 Ultra just show me on the screen 4G+ speed. Is the problem with only that model on EE? Please help me. I got EE plan with 5G essential plan. Just want now is that model Sm-n9860 is compatible working on 5G in UK Networks.
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ppl have posted that it works with latest sept update
I got EE 5g plan too and my 5G isn't working on this latest September patch. Hopefully this will be fixed in October's patch. Let's see
fotor2r said:
Hi Guys. Anybody can explain me why Note 20 ultra Hk version with Snapdragon Dual Sim doesn't work on 5G. I'm on UK on EE network, my brand new Note 20 Ultra just show me on the screen 4G+ speed. Is the problem with only that model on EE? Please help me. I got EE plan with 5G essential plan. Just want now is that model Sm-n9860 is compatible working on 5G in UK Networks.
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Are you in a 5G coverage area?
No 5G
inningsdefeat500 said:
ppl have posted that it works with latest sept update
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No Mate sorry it dosnt work with september update. I got this update and isnt.
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Are you in a 5G coverage area?
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Of course Iam on 5G area,Northampton in UK have a great 5G coverage. So problem is with software in Note 20 Ultra HK version.
fotor2r said:
No Mate sorry it dosnt work with september update. I got this update and isnt.
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Of course Iam on 5G area,Northampton in UK have a great 5G coverage. So problem is with software in Note 20 Ultra HK version.
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Strange, my 5G works like a dream on Three. TGY with the latest update. No CSC change/reflash.
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Hi ALL. Thanks for sending me maps with 5G Coverage in EE UK. Looks like EE maps are different like real coverage maps with 5G range!!!
Anyway,acording that much accurate map I was check 2 places where 5G must working i Northampton UK ,and....still didnot pickup 5G on device screen. All the time is trong 4G+ only...
I got official message from Technician Team EE UK about SM-N9860,and it looks like that device on that moment is not compatible with EE 5G network .Is all good with 4G bands but not with 5G.
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VirtualWaver said:
Strange, my 5G works like a dream on Three. TGY with the latest update. No CSC change/reflash.
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Welcome. Which Note 20 ULTRA model do you have? Is it SM-N9860 HK version? And can I ask where you have such a good 5G range?
fotor2r said:
Hi ALL. Thanks for sending me maps with 5G Coverage in EE UK. Looks like EE maps are different like real coverage maps with 5G range!!!
Anyway,acording that much accurate map I was check 2 places where 5G must working i Northampton UK ,and....still didnot pickup 5G on device screen. All the time is trong 4G+ only...
I got official message from Technician Team EE UK about SM-N9860,and it looks like that device on that moment is not compatible with EE 5G network .Is all good with 4G bands but not with 5G.
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Welcome. Which Note 20 ULTRA model do you have? Is it SM-N9860 HK version? And can I ask where you have such a good 5G range?
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Thanks! I am among the first people in this forum who got SN-N9860 from Wonda, right after it was announced in HK.
The area I live in has no 5G yet so I had to travel to other places to test. The screenshot I posted was taken in Weybridge, near the high street. Three only has a tiny 5G area in Weybridge so I assume the speed and latency would be much better in London or other areas with better 5G coverage.
Carrier aggregation is not setup on the sm-n9860 to utilize the lte bands that USA use - for t-mobile anyways.
Im not sure if changing to csc bri might help for this. Probably someone from usa can confirm?
Maybe @inningsdefeat500 can confirm or not. I believe he has the same device and on T-Mobile USA.

Are the European 5G bands same as USA AT&T 5 G bands?

I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
I do not believe they are the same
Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
carlitos66 said:
I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
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I'm curious to know why you imported / purchased the N20 Ultra with Exynos when we in the Uk and other regions are clamouring for the Snapdragon version ?
I was tempted to import a N20 Ultra from Hong Kong but was advised against it due to possible issues with signal and connectivity.
5G bands are totally different. You won't get 5G on ATT
carlitos66 said:
I bought international Note 20 ultra with Exynos chip. I am using it here in USA on AT& T network, but it seems like the 5G bands are not compatible with European 5G's networks because I am getting horrible speeds. Even on 4G. I went to AT&T store to see if they can do something, and they upgraded my plan to 5G plan, changed the sim card but that did nothing. Anybody knows if the bands are same for international models and US models? I am ready to sell the device in Europe and buy unlocked US version. What speed are you guys getting? I am lucky to pull 30mbps, in some areas not even that. I live in greater Los Angeles area, so there should be good coverage, right?
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The Global version does not have ATT's 5G band: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra
BandOfBrothers1 said:
I'm curious to know why you imported / purchased the N20 Ultra with Exynos when we in the Uk and other regions are clamouring for the Snapdragon version ?
I was tempted to import a N20 Ultra from Hong Kong but was advised against it due to possible issues with signal and connectivity.
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I have spend more than 6 months in Europe last year, so I was thinking it's no big deal to buy in Europe. I also root my phones regularly, which lately is not that necessary, I have to admit.

Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra N986U1 or N9860 in UK.

Hello, I'd buy Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra with Snapdragon chipset. But now is complicated. I don't know which one is better to buy N986U1 or N9860? I'll not root phone, even if I'll root than no problem with USA variant to unlock bootloader (xda-developers I read one thread samsung pwned). Other thing is 5G. Will it work in UK or not? I read tutorial how to enable all bands on LTE, 5G via service menu, so maybe will work. I'll be happy if FM radio works.
N9860 (TGY - Hong Kong) should work with 5G on the Three network in the UK, probably also with Vodafone. Definitely not with EE. Not much feedback about O2.
But the N9860 is getting appalling support from Samsung. No Android 11 yet and still stuck on November security updates. When updates are released they can undo service menu changes required to enable 4G+.
I can't comment on how the experience might be in the UK with the US versions, but so far I'm not impressed with Samsung and this phone. The hardware is great. The imported software support is a scandal. I would probably not risk importing again.
Thanks for repley. Maybe now doesn't makes a sense between Snapdragon and Exynos variant. Most S10 Plus, Note 10 Plus previously been imported from USA. But for Note 20 Ultra is absolutely different more from China. What is the reason for it. Because bootloader vy default can be unlocked or something specific. I'm using EE. So if 5G doesn't work I'll not worry so much.
I get up to 200 Mbps on EE with 4G+ and I'm really not sure whether the 5G coverage extends to my neighbourhood, so I'm not fussed that 5G does not work for me. I tried to find signal where it is claimed to exist and got nothing. 4G+ coverage is very good for me though, so happy days.
I don't know why it does not work. The required bands are supported and I've tested with 5G SIMs from EE, 3 and Voxi. I've contacted EE support and Samsung (UK) support and nobody gives a **** as the phone is imported.
My only real beef is the complete lack of updates. My S10+ is more up to date than this N9860. I have no idea why Samsung are dragging their feet over this specific model.
I will say this the N986U1 do get updates frequently and I'll the specs far as signals in your area
dallen5 said:
I will say this the N986U1 do get updates frequently and I'll the specs far as signals in your area
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Thanks, I had Note 10 Plus with Snapdragon USA for short time and coverage was very better than with Exynos. With Snapdragon signal was perfect but with Exynos was weak and many times impossible to make calls.
Nettwerk said:
Thanks, I had Note 10 Plus with Snapdragon USA for short time and coverage was very better than with Exynos. With Snapdragon signal was perfect but with Exynos was weak and many times impossible to make calls.
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Yea I had the Exynos Note 9 and the signal sucked in the US
Thanks for repley, so, I bought Note 20 Ultra USA variant.
N9860 has got Android 11 on Feb 3rd. And it is amazing.
Phone recieved and I'm happy with it. Flashed XAA U1 and no problem at all. Only for the moment is it issue on my side or phone, but ebay app doesn't work. It says:"
Try searching for something above or tap "Reload" to try again. Rest apps works without issues.
Update: I believe it was ebay issue. eBay app working now. All is perfect.

Is there a way to make the 5G of my US variant Note 20 Ultra to work in another country?

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra 5G bought from the US (SM-N986U1) and I am currently in the Philippines. Is there any way I can make the 5G work here? If currently there is no way, would you think there will be in the near future?
Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.
This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.
Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U
kradcliffe said:
Depends if the 5g bands are the same in both countries (and operators), you'd need to check that.
You could try the whitelisting method used on the Hong Kong variants which allows 5g use in Europe. Google it.
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Nettwerk said:
This is interesting part. I've been thinking about this not long time ago. My idea is as HK variant has same chipset etc, except storage with USA variant. So I believe it possible in some way to enable hidden or locked 5G bands on USA variant.
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olkitu said:
Not possible make to work because it do not support bands used bands and combinations used in Philippines: https://cacombos.com/device/SM-N986U
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Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.
Ricks[DEV] said:
hi mate just for knowing, i had this idea to import myself a broken note 20 ultra 5g US variant, you said that the 5G is not working. Did the 4g,3g or 2g worked for you? im from italy and i found on ebay a good priced phone, but now im scared that the network will not work for me. i found the philippines band chart with all the frequencies and bands. like in italy, only one/two of them are supported and i would like to know if the network was working.
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Hey there. Yes. My former Note 20 Ultra 5G US variant's 4G is working in the Philippines.
I recommend you get also the Hong Kong (Snapdragon) variant instead, as I have read somewhere that HK variant's 5G could work in the UK.
reidleingod said:
Thanks for the replies. I already sold my US variant and bought a brand new HK version. So far benefitting with the dual sim.
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Well this answers my question. I recently bought a US version note 20 ultra 5g and having trouble activating the 5g on my phone which seems to be impossible. I should have bought a snapdragon hk version instead then. This is very frustrating cause I'm really enjoying the benefits of a Note phone.

Question does the exynos model get 5g in the US?

Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
tripdastati0n said:
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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Looks like 5G Bands 5 & 41, that's it, if this source is accurate:
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Here you will find where to buy the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra Global · 12GB · 1TB · SM-S908B, for the cheapest price from over 140 stores constantly traced in kimovil.com
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tripdastati0n said:
Can you explain what that means. Maybe explain like your doing it to a 6 year old so I understand
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Well, not knowing which carrier you use, I don't know what else to say.... Perhaps take a look at the source the next time you're not "Baked AF".....
No ill will intended, but, if you give the site a good look, you'll be able to figure it out.
tripdastati0n said:
Cause I bought a exynos note 20 ultra last year off amazon and it could only get to lte but not 5g and I got it to get 5g and be able to root. So I returned it and just got a snapdragon version and just lived without root which is honestly fine btw. Will the same thing happen if I buy an exynos s22 ultra? Or can the snapdragon version be rooted this time? Pls don't yell at me if this has been asked but the search bar here is confusing and I'm baked af
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The most reliable way to ensure your device will support 5G is aquire your Service Provider's device.
Typically with the Exynos variants you can access root but since it's a brand new version ask a Exynos user if bootloader unlock is available in developer options. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Again typlically only the Snapdragon version from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong (SM-G9080) will offer unlocking the bootloader. If you're going to be in US it probably won't connect.
Be aware OneUI 4.1 may have eliminated bootloader unlock.
tripdastati0n said:
Thanks bud, what a gentleman I have tmobile in the US. So your saying if I get a tmobile exynos I can have 5g in the US no prob? And is snapdragon s22 ultra rootable or is it just the exynos version?
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The T-Mobile device is a Snapdragon variant, if that's your carrier and you need 5G it's your best option. The T-Mobile device, if it's the same as it's predecessor the S21 Ultra, can't be rooted. T-Mobile only sells Snapdragon variants.
My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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My experience with a HK s21 ultra that has the same bands as exynos s21 is that 5G doesn't work in the US asot didn't have
the key 5G bands. On TMobile it sometimes says 5G as the device has one if the bands tmob uses for 5G in the US but it's phantom, and you only get 4G.
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Yep, I have the SM-G9980 on T-Mobile and Network Mode displays 5G but it never connects. For me 5G is close to useless and I'd rather not have T-mobile's bloatware and prefer the unlocked bootloader. Not to mention no long term carrier commitment if you're looking for a discount on a new device.

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