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App data transfer without root?

Trying to migrate some of my more critical data from my HTC 10 to my S8+, used Helium but it's a bit crash happy right now, and what it did migrate is virtually useless. Is there a manual method I can follow? I have done an ADB backup as well but it seems rather small @ 3gb even though I have 11gb in app data.
Because I've always had root, TiBu was my goto tool. If there are any advanced methods using ADB or something else (I've done alot of searching) to backup and restore data to a phone without root, I'm all ears. Hopefully it can help others besides myself as well.

Hi Opieum, Unfortunately I am not here to answer your question but to second it...
Based on my research I can't transfer app data from my s7, apps transferred, even sideloaded apps using SmartSwitch, but bluetooth, wifi, accounts and other app data would not switch . I even used cable method.
Helium which is supposedly a great app that does not require root unfortunately also fails to restore app data on the s8 as other users have reported on here and on Reddit
I have an s7 and before I trade it in I want to make sure all my app data is transferred, at least a full backup on my pc. I do not trust SmartSwitch to backup everything

I am also trying to transfer my app data from my rooted s6. Helium wont work, smart switch wont transfer app data. Has anyone found a way of doing it without rooting their s8?

Helium is the only app that works so far, make sure you use app data backup only. If you want to backup sms/mms/call logs just use mybackup from the playstore.

I was actually looking at this earlier, thinking I could just copy the app folder from my old rooted android onto the new one, but I couldnt even find any files in the app folder to move over! just tried helium, backed up one apps data, restored it on my s8 but it had no effect at all.

Helium wont work for me either keep getting the desktop password error even though password is set to blank. Have tried removing lock screen and turning off private mode.

peachpuff said:
Helium is the only app that works so far, make sure you use app data backup only. If you want to backup sms/mms/call logs just use mybackup from the playstore.
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Can you explain steps and do you need premium version ?

rick james b1tch said:
Helium wont work for me either keep getting the desktop password error even though password is set to blank. Have tried removing lock screen and turning off private mode.
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Remove any screen locks that you have, fingerprint/pattern/pin.
JeffATL said:
Can you explain steps and do you need premium version ?
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Premium helps but just do app data only backup, then copy the /carbon directory to the new phone and restore from internal storage.

peachpuff said:
Remove any screen locks that you have, fingerprint/pattern/pin.
Premium helps but just do app data only backup, then copy the /carbon directory to the new phone and restore from internal storage.
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I tried all of this and even tried setting a password in heilum and dev settings but still no luck. Looks like ill either have to root the s8 (trying to aviod it), or give up on my old app data annoyingly as some apps i have dragged data across multiple phones for upto the last 5 years.
Surely there is another way aside from root options.

Problems to transfer app data to new S7 without rooting

Hello!
I have an two S7.
The old one is rooted. I am trying to transfer all data - especially app data to a new S7 and I have failed so far.
The new S7 is encrypted because it is company phone and company requires that. It is not rooted.
The old phone is not encrypted. It was not possible. I suspect because it is rooted.
That is the reason why I don't want to root the new phone.
I have tried Samsung Smart Switch, but of course it only transfers the apps, but not the data.
I have tried Helium. The backup went fine, but the new phone did not connect to the PC. It constantly said I should switch to PTP for USB debugging, although it was activated. I found that someone recommended to switch off screen lock. But this is impossible with the new phone now.
I have tried several times and gave up.
I have tried Holo Backup, but no backup was created.
I have tried Super Backup. Seemed to work fine. No app data transfered.
I have tried Samsung cloud. Seemed to work fine. No app data transfered.
Any suggestions please?
Thanks!

ingomhhf said:
Hello!
I have an two S7.
The old one is rooted. I am trying to transfer all data - especially app data to a new S7 and I have failed so far.
The new S7 is encrypted because it is company phone and company requires that. It is not rooted.
The old phone is not encrypted. It was not possible. I suspect because it is rooted.
That is the reason why I don't want to root the new phone.
I have tried Samsung Smart Switch, but of course it only transfers the apps, but not the data.
I have tried Helium. The backup went fine, but the new phone did not connect to the PC. It constantly said I should switch to PTP for USB debugging, although it was activated. I found that someone recommended to switch off screen lock. But this is impossible with the new phone now.
I have tried several times and gave up.
I have tried Holo Backup, but no backup was created.
I have tried Super Backup. Seemed to work fine. No app data transfered.
I have tried Samsung cloud. Seemed to work fine. No app data transfered.
Any suggestions please?
Thanks!
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You can do an ADB Backup and restore it on the new phone, it's what Helium does except it does it app by app instead of all at once (it will only backup apps for which backup is allowed but that's the max you can do without root). Another way is Google backup which should backup app data (same as ADB but easier)

What's the best solution for transferring data from a note 10 plus

Hi Friends,
What is the best way to transfer your files and apps?
At present I just want to test use the Fold 2, so I would like my files and apps on there but not use my sim card or WhatsApp ect ect just yet as I will use the Note 10 plus for the next two weeks.
Would ideally want all the logins transfering over as well, as seamless or painless as possible..
Blessings.

Use the Smart Switch app and a USB Type C cable between the phones for the quickest transfer.
This was a blessing when moving from my OnePlus 7 Pro. Transferred all my apps, video's and music on top of the usual stuff.

Just done mine with smart switch over bluetooth from the fold 1, took no more than ten minutes all in

yetiweston said:
Just done mine with smart switch over bluetooth from the fold 1, took no more than ten minutes all in
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If you aren't transferring much information (just basic apps, settings and a few files) then Bluetooth is fine but if transferring lots of big apps/games, music and videos the USB-C cable transfer is recommended, you can use the cable that came with the Fold 2, otherwise it will take a long time. - I transferred over 100GB.

It's Smart switch the built in 'transfer" software and the beginning of the starting from scratch system. Or do I get the phone up and running then start smart switch after?

Either. I did it when first setting the phone up but if you've already started you can run the app manually.

dealstokie1972 said:
Hi Friends,
What is the best way to transfer your files and apps?
At present I just want to test use the Fold 2, so I would like my files and apps on there but not use my sim card or WhatsApp ect ect just yet as I will use the Note 10 plus for the next two weeks.
Would ideally want all the logins transfering over as well, as seamless or painless as possible..
Blessings.
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Echoing what others have said here, using Smart Switch and a USB cable with male USB-C both ends is the easiest and fastest way.
There will be many who claim this is the worst way, and that you should always set up your new phone from scratch to avoid issues. But I have used this method for several years now and on the odd occasion an app does misbehave, I simply uninstall it and re-install from the Play Store, no more issues!
Also, if you restore from an online backup instead, you will find many apps data missing. It's best to use a cable from the donor device to your new device if possible.
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Are you saying with a cable app data should move over? I can't seem to get the app data to restore, all apps are restored, but I am going to need to set each one up again.

djsaad1 said:
Are you saying with a cable app data should move over? I can't seem to get the app data to restore, all apps are restored, but I am going to need to set each one up again.
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That's what I'm getting, having to re login all my banking apps, cards, passwords, accounts ect

dealstokie1972 said:
That's what I'm getting, having to re login all my banking apps, cards, passwords, accounts ect
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It doesn't work with all apps, but that's a limitation of the app, not Smart Switch. This is mainly apps that have a level of security like banking apps or are password protected. But even if just 50% of your apps transferred their data over, that's a fair few apps you don't have to set up again. It's not perfect but I think it's still the quickest way to get your phone set up from new.
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Question Transferring app data?

Hello,
I'm having difficulty finding a way to transfer app data from my old s9+ to my s22u. I have data such as locally-stored high scores, log-ins, etc on many apps, but Smart Switch is the only way it gives me when setting up the phone to transfer data, which doesn't back up nor transfer app data. The only way would be to use a Google backup, but the s22u doesn't give me the option to restore from Google backup at any point during setup. I also have tried Google One, but there is no option whatsoever to restore from my other devices.
Is there any way to transfer app data (without rooting)?

In my opinion, there is no way without root.

qood said:
Hello,
I'm having difficulty finding a way to transfer app data from my old s9+ to my s22u. I have data such as locally-stored high scores, log-ins, etc on many apps, but Samsung Switch is the only way it gives me when setting up the phone to transfer data, which doesn't back up nor transfer app data. The only way would be to use a Google backup, but the s22u doesn't give me the option to restore from Google backup at any point during setup. I also have tried Google One, but there is no option whatsoever to restore from my other devices.
Is there any way to transfer app data (without rooting)?
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I think Samsung Switch is your best bet. It's getting better at transferring as much app data as possible without infringing on legal and security issues. You can use it at any time to transfer data, not just at phone set up. I used it just recently to transfer my data from my Z Fold 3 to my S22u and I was impressed with how good of a job it did. It also gives you a good bit of choices on what you want/don't want to transfer. I recommend that you use wifi and not a usb cable as wifi is much faster if you have a good network. Lots of YouTube videos you can watch and get more information.

Rubby1025 said:
I think Samsung Switch is your best bet. It's getting better at transferring as much app data as possible without infringing on legal and security issues. You can use it at any time to transfer data, not just at phone set up. I used it just recently to transfer my data from my Z Fold 3 to my S22u and I was impressed with how good of a job it did. It also gives you a good bit of choices on what you want/don't want to transfer. I recommend that you use wifi and not a usb cable as wifi is much faster if you have a good network. Lots of YouTube videos you can watch and get more information.
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samsung switch? I guess you mean Smart switch. And no, this app does not transfer app data. All applications need to be set up. And wifi is definitely not faster than cable.

efkosk said:
samsung switch? I guess you mean Smart switch. And no, this app does not transfer app data. All applications need to be set up. And wifi is definitely not faster than cable.
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Yes, I meant Samsung Smart Switch, apologies. I can attest from my recent experience that with some apps the data is definitely transferred. The one I'm specifically remembering is the app for my b-hyve smart lawn irrigation controller as I was dreading going through the process of reconnecting with the controller in my garage. After using Smart Switch, when I fired up the app I was happy to learn I was connected and didn't even have to re-log onto the server side. That clearly shows app data was transferred.

I also recently used a smartswitch with exactly the same reasons.
No application has been transferred to me and I will carefully set up applications for lawn irrigation controller, pool heating, alarm, tv .. Just everything. It doesn't even transfer my "high score" in the simple offline game "Water Sort Puzzle"

I used smart switch...I did notice that some apps get transferred with settings of the app etc...but some apps get transferred without any data regarding the app...when opening the app, all must be setup/logged in again etc...

Question Have I lost my data or what

Hello. My Pixel 7 pro had some dust under the selfie camera, so I had to send it back to google for RMA, I then got a Samsung A03 as a loner phone, really low end, but I got a loaner and that was better than nothing, I then proceeded to erase my Pixel 7 pro as I knew everything was backed up by default as I had sync on in the settings under account and they said I had to do that so they could test the phone, now when I logged into the samsung phone after starting it, it did not restore my data, I just tought the phone was too low-end, but now I was looking to restore SMS messages and saw a bunch of internet post mentioned about google drive backup for phones and now when I look at google drive on my phone I see an option to start backup and I have never seen that before, so now I am wondering if I really did not do a backup on my Pixel phone and some data is lost or not.

Think that's sort of typical on Samsung's. Even when you turn off Google Google backup Transport it seems to retain the data it previously saved.
That said I don't trust it and back up everything redundantly to multiple drives. I don't use cloud in part because it's a huge resource hog.
In your case I be tempted to error on the side of caution and wait to restore the data on the original phone... and hope it works.
That's one reason I keep a backup phone, ready to go in case my primary phone needs service or whatever. In addition to backups to flash and hdds I also use my phone's unencrypted SD card as a data drive. All critical data goes there. That way I can do a full reload using just the card. Not having or properly using expandable storage is a handicap.

blackhawk said:
Think that's sort of typical on Samsung's. Even when you turn off Google Google backup Transport it seems to retain the data it previously saved.
That said I don't trust it and back up everything redundantly to multiple drives. I don't use cloud in part because it's a huge resource hog.
In your case I be tempted to error on the side of caution and wait to restore the data on the original phone... and hope it works.
That's one reason I keep a backup phone, ready to go in case my primary phone needs service or whatever. In addition to backups to flash and hdds I also use my phone's unencrypted SD card as a data drive. All critical data goes there. That way I can do a full reload using just the card. Not having or properly using expandable storage is a handicap.
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No I dont think you understand me, I am wondering if the data on my google phone is lost or not, when I switched from my Samsung Galaxy S10 to my Pixel 7 Pro all the data came back including the apps and so on, so I tought ok, when sync settings is turn on in account settings then I am all good and also tught that google had all thease backup things on automatically, but now when I switched to the loaner Samsung Galaxy A03 non of the data came back and even the apps did not restore, on all my other phone (they have been high end tho compared to this one) there was the nromal google menu when you started the phone for the first time and it logged in and presented me with my apps list and asked if I wanted to restore them.
Now the problems is that I see in google drive that there is a backup option that I Have never used before and did not know that it was there, so I am wondering if the data on my Pixel 7 Pro is lost like SMS, apps list and so on.
When I started the Samsung A03 there was an option to use the Samsung Smart transfer, but skipped that and now that I think of it, that might have been the method to transfer things, tho I have never used that on any of my other samsung phones that I have owned.

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No I dont think you understand me, I am wondering if the data on my google phone is lost or not, when I switched from my Samsung Galaxy S10 to my Pixel 7 Pro all the data came back including the apps and so on, so I tought ok, when sync settings is turn on in account settings then I am all good and also tught that google had all thease backup things on automatically, but now when I switched to the loaner Samsung Galaxy A03 non of the data came back and even the apps did not restore, on all my other phone (they have been high end tho compared to this one) there was the nromal google menu when you started the phone for the first time and it logged in and presented me with my apps list and asked if I wanted to restore them.
Now the problems is that I see in google drive that there is a backup option that I Have never used before and did not know that it was there, so I am wondering if the data on my Pixel 7 Pro is lost like SMS, apps list and so on.
When I started the Samsung A03 there was an option to use the Samsung Smart transfer, but skipped that and now that I think of it, that might have been the method to transfer things, tho I have never used that on any of my other samsung phones that I have owned.
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I do understand. I would avoid switching the data from phone to loaner phone with Google backup Transport if there's any doubt. SmartSwitch has it's own issues and can lose data. I don't trust either.
Try this...

blackhawk said:
I do understand. I would avoid switching the data from phone to loaner phone with Google backup Transport if there's any doubt. SmartSwitch has it's own issues and can lose data. I don't trust either.
Try this...
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ok, but my question is still there is my data lost from my Pixel 7 Pro as I did not use any specific backup funktion other than the standard account sync options on my google phone, but yes only time will tell when I get the phone back from repair.

thomashacked said:
ok, but my question is still there is my data lost from my Pixel 7 Pro as I did not use any specific backup funktion other than the standard account sync options on my google phone, but yes only time will tell when I get the phone back from repair.
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It looks like some of the backup functions are limited to Pixel phones. Since I only use Samsung's I may not be aware of some of Google backup's advanced functions. Maybe they should of given you a Pixel loaner...

blackhawk said:
It looks like some of the backup functions are limited to Pixel phones. Since I only use Samsung's I may not be aware of some of Google backup's advanced functions. Maybe they should of given you a Pixel loaner...
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I was looking at this site https://support.google.com/drive/answer/6305834?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Android and that was what got me concerned that I had lost a lot of stuff as I had never seen that backup funktion before.
Yes they only had that Samsung phone in the electronic store that I went to.

thomashacked said:
I was looking at this site https://support.google.com/drive/answer/6305834?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform=Android and that was what got me concerned that I had lost a lot of stuff as I had never seen that backup funktion before.
Yes they only had that Samsung phone in the electronic store that I went to.
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Time will tell. If you value your data in the future always backup critical data redundantly and regularly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. OTG flashsticks can also be used but if they fail there's no tangible recovery option unlike hdds.

blackhawk said:
Time will tell. If you value your data in the future always backup critical data redundantly and regularly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. OTG flashsticks can also be used but if they fail there's no tangible recovery option unlike hdds.
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Yes time will tell, I will see when I get the phone back.

You can look to see if you still have a backup(s), by going to drive.google.com, click Storage on the left, and then Backups, in the upper right. This will show you a list of whats-what, at the given time point (backups expire after 2 months if the phone isn't (cloud) connected).
I use SMS-backup-and-restore (app), before I do ANY phone migration, or similar (any reset, root or wonky adb things that are iffy, on recovery), at least that saves all your SMS and call history, which you can restore to any phone, using the same (app).
Additionally, if you backup your pics (Gdrive, OneDrive, whatever...), and other non-replaceable data, then if the backup isn't usable, you have most of what you'd want, it's just a hassle to sift-sort.
There are tools to restore your installed apps (list, XML), but this is almost more of a hassle then just doing it, IME/IMHO.
On the A3 restore, was it running Android 13, BEFORE you went to restore? Down-level restores generally don't work. If this is the case, you should see your backup in the first suggestion, above, and it should be there, as long as you get your P7P back, before it expires (or you restore it to an equivalent or up-level device).

pgrey2 said:
You can look to see if you still have a backup(s), by going to drive.google.com, click Storage on the left, and then Backups, in the upper right. This will show you a list of whats-what, at the given time point (backups expire after 2 months if the phone isn't (cloud) connected).
I use SMS-backup-and-restore (app), before I do ANY phone migration, or similar (any reset, root or wonky adb things that are iffy, on recovery), at least that saves all your SMS and call history, which you can restore to any phone, using the same (app).
Additionally, if you backup your pics (Gdrive, OneDrive, whatever...), and other non-replaceable data, then if the backup isn't usable, you have most of what you'd want, it's just a hassle to sift-sort.
There are tools to restore your installed apps (list, XML), but this is almost more of a hassle then just doing it, IME/IMHO.
On the A3 restore, was it running Android 13, BEFORE you went to restore? Down-level restores generally don't work. If this is the case, you should see your backup in the first suggestion, above, and it should be there, as long as you get your P7P back, before it expires (or you restore it to an equivalent or up-level device).
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Ok yes I can see some backup in there, so I think I am all right, lets hope it worked.
The A03 was running android 13, so I dont know if it should work or not, I was not presneted with the normal android menu with all my apps and if I wanted to restore them, but that might be due to the phone having the samsung skin on it.
I will see once I get the phone back, it should only take 2 weeks max they said.