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I'm looking for a dual sim phone which supports LTE, but with as close to stock AOSP as possible and also with reasonably hi specs.
I know I could go down the S5 or HTC M8 route and I guess they are options.
I have however been looking at some of the Chinese manufacturers which are presently offering some very good speced dual sim LTE phones, namely the Honor 6, Elephone P3000s and the Nubia Z7 mini. My biggest issue with these though is rom support and whether they contain GAPPS (and also how rootable they are).
Reading around it seems that the Nubia Z7 mini might be the best supported in terms of Rom (both officially and unofficially).
I am seriously tempted by the Elephone P3000s (when it comes in stock) mainly because of the price as well.
Any other thoughts, or options I'm missing out on?
Hey guys,
I would like to start a discussion that would aggregate meta-data available on the Chinese budget phones under £200 with mid-range specs, firstly in order to help me ,but also others to decide the correct one as there is scarcity of reviews and lots of them are paid for stubs and contain lots of misleading data.
I have spent last two weeks researching on my leisure the best possible option for the chinese budget mid-range purchase. I have been hoping to get a device priced well under £200 that would field a solid camera, 4G (800mhz) ,superb hardware perf. CPU, GPU and GPS, have solid battery 2700mh+ (ideally with quick charge function) have appealing design and ideally max up to 5" of display size with the Lollipop upgradeability.
I have seen and read lots of reviews including yours and concluded on following:
- Mediatek did really break out of its shackles and these new 64bit SoCs ARM A53 Cortex with 6732 and 6752 are real deal breakers, so I have found a plenty of quad core 5" phones that satisfy my hunger for the performance stuffed by features - >
- Kingzone N3 Plus , Elephone P6000 (and possibly P3000s) , Lenovo P70 and also a bit more expensive Zopo ZP920 magic.
--- > now from what I have seen about these devices they are united under one oblivious problem that I cannot simply overlook despite being on low budget. And that is the overall quality of their cameras. Here we can easily conclude that they generally suck, although Zopo Zp920 is one of the favourites together with ZTE Blade S6 ,but here had battery life really swept all my hopes into oblivion. One of the issues I ve found here is that almost every budget manufacturer simply loves to overstate the resolution capability of these phones, I have been digging deeper just to find out that Elephone and Kingzone simply equip their devices with a lower quality Omnivision or Sony (ElE has even issued two different sensors for the same phone due to shortage of stock) that are really just 8Mpx interpolated to 13 MPx. I have not seen many useful reviews for N3 Plus despite it's appealing design and functions comparable to P3000s, but I assume the camera problem will be exactly the same (as it is with the alleged overstated battery capacity). Despite this problematic, I have found out that the camera on P6000 is kind of controversial.
P6000 is slacked as most of the same priced phones for underperformance in low light situations., however, I have found several contrasting reviews that even claim that its low light/night images are even better that on the famous Xiaomi Mi4. From pics I ve seen I wonder whether the varying quality can be a result of different sensors used or for example that pictures have been taken on its native 8MPx res rather then extrapolated 13MPx . I am writing this really because, P6000 seems to be after all my best choice together with its 32bit brother P3000s. I have tried to look out for some comparison between these two especially camera wise (talking about rear cameras, as I am not really that concerned about the front ones), but I failed. Problem is that Ele nor reviewers really state what sensors are these phones using. But P6000 seems (at least from some outdoors pictures) quite sharper and with better dynamic range, but I am still undecided.
Is camera on these phones also fixable software wise as I am not really into vanilla camera apps.
Now first questions on you. Firstly, do you know about any device currently priced under £200 that would match my criteria or at least that would have really exceptional camera for this price range ? Is Elephone P6000 superior to P3000s in terms of performance and camera or are they pretty much comparable ? Also how much of difference we talking in terms of GPU between Mali T450-M4 and T760 M2 ? It seems that finding a solid camera that would boast at least with pretty standard Exmor 214 sensor with a solid battery life is almost impossible, or I have largely overlooked something.
I also understand that if camera wise my 5" quest would prove unsuccessful I will have to go phablet wise and I am although kinda reluctantly to do so. Here I have researched my field on comparable level.
My finalists are Jiayu S3 , Kingzone Z1 and Eco E04 Aurora (P7000 and M1 are excluded as they re not supporting my LTE band 20) On E04 side I am quite baffled as it initially looked as a superb device , but many responses pointed out its inaccurate GPS and also camera seems to be exaggerated as 16MPx with unknown sensor model. I have seen some really great shots, but also some not very good - again probably due to extrapolation perhaps. Also it only comes with 2GB at the moment and without NFC support. So in phablet side S3 seems to be the king - yet, I have seen some really crap videos took on this devices, where reviewer admitted that this is a firmware error and that fix is on its way, so the S3 leaves me with the only really big concern and that is the battery recharge time that is apparently the slowest around here (up to 4hrs !!! ) which again made my enthusiasm cease. And then we have here Kingzone Z1. Apart from only HD display, it is stuffed with features and seems to be a direct competitor for all 5.5s of its price range. However, despite being out there are no reviews that I can hold on, so for me this device also represents a great unknown.
Equally, I have been checking camera comparison for the upper-midrange flagships like Meizu Mx4 and OnePlusOne just to find out that not even these guys despite their renown are capable of great shots under low-light conditions.
Also I am in a preference of 64bit processors especially the new Mediatek 6732 and 6752. I am ready for your tips and advices, also if you can bring in links to some camera comparisons among these phones and more in depth reviews I d be glad. Also will happy if you bring up some real data about camera sensors and other modules that are under suspicion to be lies presented by manufacturers.
And if you own any of the phones mentioned, state a brief overview about their pro/cons.
Waiting forward to your responses
Thanks
Six
HUAWEI fanboy here. :thumbup:
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I recently discovered Xiaomi and think I will never go back! Good quality and low prices
I have RedMi Note 4G which is a fairly perfect phone for its price range. Never had a problem. It hasn't 800 MHz LTE though, but it's worth checking out other Xiaomi phones too.
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Also, I would reccomend avoid mediatek devices if you can. They are generally poorer in video performance than Qualcomm / Intel ones. I had a huawei G700, while specs say it's a great phone in my experience it was not. Lags and slowness was frequent issues.
Mediatek also has a bad reputation in open source community, modding/upgrading/installing recovery and custom ROMs would be impossible or at least harder.
I am very happy with my Xiaomi and maybe you could be too!
udda90 said:
I recently discovered Xiaomi and think I will never go back! Good quality and low prices
I have RedMi Note 4G which is a fairly perfect phone for its price range. Never had a problem. It hasn't 800 MHz LTE though, but it's worth checking out other Xiaomi phones too.
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Also, I would reccomend avoid mediatek devices if you can. They are generally poorer in video performance than Qualcomm / Intel ones. I had a huawei G700, while specs say it's a great phone in my experience it was not. Lags and slowness was frequent issues.
Mediatek also has a bad reputation in open source community, modding/upgrading/installing recovery and custom ROMs would be impossible or at least harder.
I am very happy with my Xiaomi and maybe you could be too!
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I got a Xiaomi Mi Note (Dual Sim and dual 4G) from China recently, which is fast (3G RAM), smooth (iphone style ROM) and good quality and just a little over £200.
But please bear in mind that it only supports FDD-LTE B3/B7, which means if your carrier is Vodafone UK (I'm in the UK by the way) you can not use LTE outside of London,Manchester and Birmingham.
(I don't have permission to post an outside link yet, but if wiki 'LTE-Advanced' you can see Vodafone UK is using B20 throughout the UK and B7 in 3 cities an the moment)
Only 3 and EE use LTE B3/B7.
GeorgeZZzz said:
I got a Xiaomi Mi Note (Dual Sim and dual 4G) from China recently, which is fast (3G RAM), smooth (iphone style ROM) and good quality and just a little over £200.
But please bear in mind that it only supports FDD-LTE B3/B7, which means if your carrier is Vodafone UK (I'm in the UK by the way) you can not use LTE outside of London,Manchester and Birmingham.
(I don't have permission to post an outside link yet, but if wiki 'LTE-Advanced' you can see Vodafone UK is using B20 throughout the UK and B7 in 3 cities an the moment)
Only 3 and EE use LTE B3/B7.
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In the end I went with Jiyau S3 Advanced, bout £160 and I cannot complain. Flashed it into Flyme OS and man this machine rocks the socks ! The resurrection of Mediatek - this 64bit M6752 Octacore smites Snapdragon 610 with an easy apparently.
Also camerawise - Sony Exmor IMAX 214 RS really delivers the promise - Removable battery makes it a dream. After 2 weeks of research, I am only happy I did not fell for anyother device, - plus supports Band 20 /800 Mhz @4G so it's GiffGaff & O2 ready.
Xiaomi phones are pretty good in many aspects. I'm planning on getting one in the near future. Some of my friends have Xiaomi devices and so far they haven't had any complaints.
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In the end I went with Jiyau S3 Advanced, bout £160 and I cannot complain. Flashed it into Flyme OS and man this machine rocks the socks ! The resurrection of Mediatek - this 64bit M6752 Octacore smites Snapdragon 610 with an easy apparently.
Also camerawise - Sony Exmor IMAX 214 RS really delivers the promise - Removable battery makes it a dream. After 2 weeks of research, I am only happy I did not fell for anyother device, - plus supports Band 20 /800 Mhz @4G so it's GiffGaff & O2 ready.
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Good for you. I'm still looking for the solution to unlcok LTE B20 on my Xiaomi MI Note LTE...
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yea, i'd look into the xiaomi options. it's surely gonna be my next purchase, although im also a bit of a lenovo fan.
now i have a jiayu g2f, i spent about 100 dollars on it at the time. i can say that it beats the quality of my previous(samsung) phones. In speed it is definately similar to my tab4 10.1. only thing is that it heats a bit more.
so like was mentioned, i'd also look into the jiayu s3 if i was you.
You can choose Huawei
I am a chinese and now i am in china ,I think Huawei is a good choice.Huawei have many patents and their devices is so good.Now i am using Huawei honor 6.(my english is so bad,if i had a misspelling,please pardon me)
I love big phones, so here are some with high specs. If you know one please say it here
AsusZenFone 3 Ultra (ZU680KL) - 6,8 inch:
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http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_3_ultra_zu680kl-8130.php
Honor Note 8 - 6,6 inch:
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_honor_note_8-8231.php
Lenovo Phab 2 Pro - 6,4 inch:
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_phab2_pro-8145.php
Xiaomi Mi Max - 6,44 inch:
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php
Xiaomi Mi Mix - 6,4 inch:
http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
Doogee Y6 Max (3D) - 6,5 inch
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-doogee-y6-max
The specs look really promising. The price is acceptable. But I prefer the design of the P8max.
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As stated by m00h above, whilst the specs look impressive, I think the P8 max is definitely good enough to last at least a year possibly more before we the diehard users will start to ask for QHD or 2K in our Phablets .
I really hope that Huawei or possibly Sony (lost all faith) or even Samsung will release a device that is at least as good as P8max but with the following issues addressed. (Still wondering if manufacturers actually read our posts/feedback:
-Dedicated Dual Sim + Dedicated Separate MicroSD Card Slot (it has been done by some cheap Chinese brand only recently why can't big brands perfect this). Very serious annoyance.
-2K Display on a 6.99 screen size which I think if the bezels are designed properly will be the absolute ideal Phablet size.)
-Physical Home Button + Dedicated Photo Camera Button
-IR Blaster and NFC
-DUAL Stereo Speakers (position on the top and bottom right sections to prevent accidental blockage of the chambers when in horizontal use)
-Curved screen like Samsung Galaxy Edge Plus- very nice looking on large screens,
-Stylus/Digitiser Pen (a must for all phablets)
-Touch Type Keyboard Cover similar to Surface Pro
-Advanced Tethering options to bypass data package restrictions to use device internet freely without third party apps or messy configurations,
-Huawei needs to remove the Firmware Customer Number lock so that an end user can flash the firmware of whichever country/region they want a long as the overall model name is matching i.e DAV-701L or DAV-703L. In a way similar to how Samsung deals with the matter as they allow custom firmware flashing of any country/operator/region the user wants or needs.
-FINALLY- Dedicated MHL Cable setup for wiredand wireless video viewing via the HDMI or USB Type C on TVs etc.....
Well it has a snapdragon processor, so there is more chance for custom roms. And i think Marshmallow wil never come for DAV-701. Support is very bad.
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Well it has a snapdragon processor, so there is more change for custom roms. And i think Marshmallow wil never come for DAV-701. Support is very bad.
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Totally agree. Huawei is officially the #3 Mobile Manufacturer in the world in volumes but their support is ABSOLUTELY NON-EXISTENT LET ALONE VERY BAD. It needs to sort this mess out. As for the Custom ROMs, thats a completely different issue and I think the developer community could do more but I am writing as a end user with no development experience. I think Huawei hardware does deserve the same attention as the Samsung, LG, Sony and HTC developers.
I am going to buy Zen 3 Ultra replace my P8 Max
Is the Zenfone 3 Ultra out yet? I'm buying it as soon as it comes out. I had to sell my P8 Max because I couldn't get LTE in Texas. I'm back on my OnePlus One until this phone comes out.
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Since I got my Huawei P8 Max (DAV-701L), I have been using it with great joy and the design is 100% better than the ZenFone 3 Ultra in my opinion. However, I have been patiently waiting for Huawei to update it to Android 6.01 and for the developer community to pay attention to the existence of this very well built handset with their quality ROMs such as the Resurrection Rom but I am getting really impatient with the situation so the fact that there is now a credible competitor WITH quality developer support makes me think that I should consider getting the ZenFone 3 Ultra-preferably 128GB version when it is released which may appear to be middle of July or August (lets see). Coming from Samsung and Sony devices with plenty of developer support, I think next time I and every enthusiast user should always read XDA to check for developer support prior to spending our hard earned cash on new phones. I also genuinely hope that someone from the leading brands is reading my previous post around what I want in a perfect Phablet (6.99"inches is the Ultimate Phablet Size for me-anything less is a compromise)
Phablet-Lover
WhySoSeriousJoKer said:
Specs looks good, and the front is finaly black Maybe this will replace my P8 max.
Those two phablets are pretty similar. The Zenfone 3 Ultra would be a nice upgrade.
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Too bad it doesn't have the LTE bands for the US. Unless they release a US version we are out of luck. Here are the bands it supports:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 800
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
Tmobile uses bands 2,4 and 12 for LTE.
AT&T uses bands 2,4,5 and 17 for LTE.
The Phab 2 Plus will be released and will support LTE in the US. It will have a 6.4" screen.
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Too bad it doesn't have the LTE bands for the US. Unless they release a US version we are out of luck. Here are the bands it supports:
2G bandsGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bandsHSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 / 800
4G bandsLTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500)
Tmobile uses bands 2,4 and 12 for LTE.
AT&T uses bands 2,4,5 and 17 for LTE.
The Phab 2 Plus will be released and will support LTE in the US. It will have a 6.4" screen.
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Ajsmsg78 you're right, that sucks. I guess the Phab 2 Plus is the only great hope I have to get a 6"+ phablet to work on LTE in the US.
I've been reading rumors of a P9 Max and according to XDA, LeEco may be sending a phone this way also...
If the Acer Predator 6 comes out before then, I'll be all over that one. I can sacrifice the screen for a while just to see what 10-cores feels like in my hand.
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next month i order the Xiaomi Mi max
My experience with huawei is now over. More then three huawei phones and always no good roms and cm or aosp is so far for my p8 max.
At this time my daily driver is my old HTC one max, it works always with no trouble, but i want a bigger phone. My Huawei p8 max i will
sell now and then the xiaomi will come.
Asus is not an option, the quality is the same like the asus notebooks, more then bad.
The Mi Max has the biggest akku of all phones (HTC One max, Huawei P8 Max, Asus Zenphone 3 Ultra) and i see here in xda has now
an own group:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max
and the phone is so new but the mi max has now CM13 ready ... this is support what i like !!!
6.4" is an good size, full-hd is also enough, no need more pixel, need only much battery and aluminium case
greets, Peter
greddy said:
next month i order the Xiaomi Mi max
My experience with huawei is now over. More then three huawei phones and always no good roms and cm or aosp is so far for my p8 max.
At this time my daily driver is my old HTC one max, it works always with no trouble, but i want a bigger phone. My Huawei p8 max i will
sell now and then the xiaomi will come.
Asus is not an option, the quality is the same like the asus notebooks, more then bad.
The Mi Max has the biggest akku of all phones (HTC One max, Huawei P8 Max, Asus Zenphone 3 Ultra) and i see here in xda has now
an own group:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max
and the phone is so new but the mi max has now CM13 ready ... this is support what i like !!!
6.4" is an good size, full-hd is also enough, no need more pixel, need only much battery and aluminium case
greets, Peter
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I would order a Mi Max as well but it doesn't support LTE in the US either. Le Eco says they are releasing phones with US LTE support this summer which is a good thing.
greddy said:
next month i order the Xiaomi Mi max
My experience with huawei is now over. More then three huawei phones and always no good roms and cm or aosp is so far for my p8 max.
At this time my daily driver is my old HTC one max, it works always with no trouble, but i want a bigger phone. My Huawei p8 max i will
sell now and then the xiaomi will come.
Asus is not an option, the quality is the same like the asus notebooks, more then bad.
The Mi Max has the biggest akku of all phones (HTC One max, Huawei P8 Max, Asus Zenphone 3 Ultra) and i see here in xda has now
an own group:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max
and the phone is so new but the mi max has now CM13 ready ... this is support what i like !!! [emoji14]
6.4" is an good size, full-hd is also enough, no need more pixel, need only much battery and aluminium case
greets, Peter
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Greddy is was also looking at the mi max, but just like he said, no LTE suppprt in the US. As of today, I dont have a "I must have it" phone...I do see a Vivo xplay5 leading the antutu benchmarks so maybe that brand will release a phablet with US LTE support also.
I still say...to date...I've never had a phone with such good battery life as the P8 Max. Hands down, best battery management device I've ever had!!
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The Mi Max is a nice phone, but a skip for me now because it has no 4G 800 mhz band 20 like all other Mi Phones and i don't like the white front color. I buy one if they make a black EU version
Someone here tried the Letv Max x900? I read that you can unlock the 4G 800 mhz band 20 with a code. The new Letv Max x910 is also comming.
New Lenovo has US bands.
Lenovo PB1-770N with 6.8-inch display, 3500mAh battery gets certified in China
rockky said:
New Lenovo has US bands.
Lenovo PB1-770N with 6.8-inch display, 3500mAh battery gets certified in China
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Do you know if it has the snapdragon 652 or 820 chip?
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I and many of you are still waiting for the Android 6.0 for our precious P8Max DAV-701L but if the rumours here are true then I am off to ASUS ZenFone 3 Ultra in no time......(Please Pay attention to the second paragraph in particular);
http://christiantimes.com/article/asus-zenfone-3-release-date-news-device-coming-soon-with-snapdragon-821-powered-deluxe-version/57648.htm
BECAUSE: I hate the fact that P8Max DAV-701L does not have any developer support (when I go into the ASUS forums on XDA, its like heaven-LoL), also Huawei support is really ****** call it whatever you like. I only wish somone could port Resurrection Remix ROM to P8 Max, thats all I am asking for to make my P8Max DAV-701L last for a long long time. They are officially the #3 phone maker in the world but I am not sure if they deserve it. Lets hope they read this angry statement and actually do the right thing for the end user.
AWFRONT said:
I and many of you are still waiting for the Android 6.0 for our precious P8Max DAV-701L but if the rumours here are true then I am off to ASUS ZenFone 3 Ultra in no time......(Please Pay attention to the second paragraph in particular);
http://christiantimes.com/article/a...apdragon-821-powered-deluxe-version/57648.htm
BECAUSE: I hate the fact that P8Max DAV-701L does not have any developer support (when I go into the ASUS forums on XDA, its like heaven-LoL), also Huawei support is really ****** call it whatever you like. I only wish somone could port Resurrection Remix ROM to P8 Max, thats all I am asking for to make my P8Max DAV-701L last for a long long time. They are officially the #3 phone maker in the world but I am not sure if they deserve it. Lets hope they read this angry statement and actually do the right thing for the end user.
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Relax, the lack of dev support isn't much Huawei related. P8max isn't a typical device, not many people want to wear a brick in their pockets, so the phone that large will probably never gain enough popularity and have a high attachment rate. The things with the Asus Zenfone won't be that different, a phone with such a small userbase will probably never get enough attention for a proper dev support.
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I am with WhySoSeriousJoker on the MiMax.
Too bad, that phone doesnt support band 20 LTE. I also dislike the white front. Just awful. In spite of these drawbacks i couldnt resist and ordered the 652/3GB version from china. Good to hear, that there is a CM13 available for this model.
I still love my P8Max. It is a pitty the DAV 701 is lacking support from Huawei but it is still running smooth and battery life is extraordinary. Will keep both phones
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Here you'll find specifications for Lenovo Phab 2 Pro provided by Gadgets NDTV.
General
Dimensions (mm): 179.80 x 88.60 x 10.70
Weight (g): 250.0
Battery capacity (mAh): 4050
Removable battery: No
Display
Screen size (inches): 6.40
Resolution: 1440 x 2560 pixels
Hardware
Processor: 1.8 GHz Octa-core
Processor make: Qualcomm Snapdragon 652
RAM: 4GB
Internal storage: 64GB
Expandable storage: Yes (via microSD)
Camera
Rear camera: 16-megapixel
Flash: Yes
Front camera: 8-megapixel
Software
Operating system: Android 6.0
Connectivity
Wi-Fi: Yes
Wi-Fi Standards supported: 802.11 a/ b/ g/ n/ ac
GPS: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
NFC: Yes
Infrared: No
USB OTG: No
Headphones: 3.5mm
FM: No
GSM/CDMA: GSM
3G: Yes
4G/LTE: Yes
Supports 4G in India (Band 40): No
Sensors: Compass/Magnetometer, Proximity, Accelometer, Ambient light, Gyroscope, Barometer
I'm very excited for about this phone. I hope there will be nice software development for it.
Definitely interested in the Plus and Pro versions of this device.
I've been using a Huawei Mate 7 for nearly a year now and I'm fine with the size factor of it, and I think I'd like the even larger size of the Phab 2. I can't wait to see some tests on the finished product and some camera samples. :fingers-crossed:
Good to know that it does have NFC, GsmArena doesn't have NFC listed for it, but not having USB OTG is a bummer. I also wonder if it has MHL and WiFi Direct.
I just signed up for when its going to be released, this might be my next new phone.
I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
thefinancemaster said:
I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
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I don't like it either. But unfortunately CDMA only takes up 15% of the market (mostly North America) while the GSM standard takes up 85% of the market share. So if I were a smartphone manufacturer, unless I had an exclusive contract with Verizon or Sprint, I'd put all my energy towards making my device compatible with the most broadly used standard.
CDMA is starting to make some inroads in other countries, so maybe that will spur more device manufacturers to include the CDMA frequencies in future phones.
Thanks for the insight Clarkson. I didn't realize that there was such a big difference, but I knew there was one. This may be extremely naive, but doesn't it seem like they could just include CDMA radios and charge an extra $20 or something? I have a Nexus 6P that I'm extremely happy with right now, but I'm always on the lookout for my next phone. This one is unlocked and I activated it on Verizon, so I know they can do it!
Phone doesn't have NFC I posted this on Lenovo site and got answer from "Lenovo"
Does it have NFC ?
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Lenovo · 3 hours ago
No it does not
Champagne Gold?
Any word on when champagne gold will be available? If I'm spending $500, why not be happy with the color?
The other disappointment for me is the micro USB. I suppose I can compromise on the lack of USB-C but I've been spoiled.
I currently use a ZTE Zmax Pro, a quick pick up after returning the Note 7. I discovered that I loved the 6-inch screen. Why not go for a 6.5 with higher screen resolution?
The camera and battery of the Phab 2 pro are much better. I'm a big OneNote stylus user so the screen real estate is more attractive to me than Tango.
[Queen OTE=H. Clarkson;67493220]Definitely interested in the Plus and Pro versions of this device.
I've been using a Huawei Mate 7 for nearly a year now and I'm fine with the size factor of it, and I think I'd like the even larger size of the Phab 2. I can't wait to see some tests on the finished product and some camera samples. :fingers-crossed:[/QUOTE]
I am glad the US is finally getting a phone this size with decent specs. I used to have the Z Ultra back in the past but their camera was dismal and had no flash but it was still a beast. I see the Phab 2 Pro as it's replacement for me as far as size, camera, screen resolution and full LTE support. I think Sony dropped the ball big time by not having a follow-up to the Z Ultra....I am currently using the Mate 8 but I have used the Mi Max and Honor Note 8 this year as well but the Mate 8 won me over and after I get this Phab 2 Pro..I will not get another phone for awhile
Z Ultra also had bezel from hell. Its touch screen eventually stopped working on me. I had the GPE.
4G LTE Verizon works
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I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
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This phone works on Verizon 4G
Does this phone get calls over VoLTE or drop to 3G like the Phab 2?
01/26/17 EDIT: I had to go buy one to find out for myself... YES this device uses VoLTE (HD) For Calls.
Hi everyone,
I chose this phone because I wanted high performance and awesome features at the lowest price. It is a capable device indeed in hardware perspective, but it has no future in custom ROM development. Originally, I said It doesn't matter, who is the manufacturer, performance and features matter, because I can install a likable custom ROM. I didn't know that MediaTek SoCs are out of question if it comes to custom ROMs. So I decided to sell it. I didn't use it for anything other than trying out the camera, speakers, and updating the system.
I want to buy a phone, which has the same capabilities, but custom ROMs are available for it, so it is most likely built on a Snapdragon SoC. My current candidate is OnePlus 9 Pro 8/128 GB, which is more expensive, but I will pay the price of good features now. I have the 12/256 GB version of GT Neo 3, so it would be a few steps backwards IMHO, but I'm still searching for other alternatives.
It feels bad to sell my first phone with a USB Type-C port. I moved back to my good-old Motorola G5 Plus with HavocOS, because the factory OS of GT Neo 3 makes me mad.
What are your thoughts on it? What phone do you recommend?
Xiaomi Poco F4 gt is good option
Maybe try to look for your preferred custom rom and then pick candidates from their supported devices.
Not all snadragon soc devices have a bunch of custom roms.
All i know though is that Xiaomi has a lot of devices with custom rom support.
Maybe their older devices.
Xiaomi 12X or Xiaomi 12 or Redmi k50 gaming (aka Poco F4 GT)
tigers2 said:
Hi everyone,
I chose this phone because I wanted high performance and awesome features at the lowest price. It is a capable device indeed in hardware perspective, but it has no future in custom ROM development. Originally, I said It doesn't matter, who is the manufacturer, performance and features matter, because I can install a likable custom ROM. I didn't know that MediaTek SoCs are out of question if it comes to custom ROMs. So I decided to sell it. I didn't use it for anything other than trying out the camera, speakers, and updating the system.
I want to buy a phone, which has the same capabilities, but custom ROMs are available for it, so it is most likely built on a Snapdragon SoC. My current candidate is OnePlus 9 Pro 8/128 GB, which is more expensive, but I will pay the price of good features now. I have the 12/256 GB version of GT Neo 3, so it would be a few steps backwards IMHO, but I'm still searching for other alternatives.
It feels bad to sell my first phone with a USB Type-C port. I moved back to my good-old Motorola G5 Plus with HavocOS, because the factory OS of GT Neo 3 makes me mad.
What are your thoughts on it? What phone do you recommend?
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U'r quite funny; why won't u do "research" before buying a new phone if u really need to "customize" like OS, camera, etc!
Oneplus, Xiaomi both are great because their bootloader can "unlockable" thus can customize to play with!
Im using Redmi K40 pro+ (MI11i/11X pro) which is already bootloader unlock and running "PE" OS and rooted, u can think about it becasue Redmi is even more price friendly than Oneplus wth same hardware~!
I only had phones with Snapdragon Socks before, there always were custom ROMs for them, it was natural. I didn't know that the case is different for MediaTek. I didn't think that the SoC manufacturer makes a difference in this question, so I didn't feel the need for research on modding and community support, especially when the phone wasn't even released on the global market.
I started using the phone BTW, global ROM has been installed and rooted.
The only vital deficiency of this phone is the lack of the 3.5mm jack port.
I bought 2 different adapters (USB-C to jack, and USB-C to jack + USB-C port for charging), but none of them work well. The first drops the signal every 2-40 seconds, the latter's jack port does the same + when charger is connected to it too, the phone switches back to it's speakers, and like the jack port didn't exist.
Good quality Bluetooth headsets are pricey, so I still use my Motorola for listening to music.