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No Smartphones bigger than 5.7 inches in the U.S?

Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?

cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.

But Why?
mikkej2k said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed this. It seems to be a coordinated effort - almost a conspiracy that phones bigger than 5.7 inches don't make it to the USA and/or receive little to zero promotion and/or support.
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nathanotis and mikkej2k,
And if the reviewers do review the phablet many say that the phone is way too big. I am convinced that the people that say that have abnormally small hands. LOL.
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?

cryingthug said:
nathanotis and mikkej2k,
My question now is, why do you think that there is nothing over 5.7 available in the U.S?
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No risk takers in the American market?
Or,
Simple supply and demand. There's not enough demand. Just stick with what's most profitable.

As more people mature ( grow older ) carriers will be forced to sell/allow larger smartphones on their networks. I believe that Sprint , T-Mobile , Verizon , and AT&T are the biggest stumbling blocks to larger phones. After the carriers I think the manufacturers don't want to go big - if they can charge more for less , why not?
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*

Better For The Eyes
mikkej2k said:
*Older people would want larger screens because they are easier to read.*
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I am not old and my eyes are excellent but I agree with the larger screens are easier to read 100%. I very much dislike trying to look at a web page on a sub 6 inch screen. What a horrible experience. If the web page is not designed for mobile you are just scrolling all the time. People are paying all this money to have data on their phones and then having to look at all that tiny font. No thank you. Plus videos and movies look so awesome on the larger size screens.

cryingthug said:
Seems like this cell phone will not be released in the U.S.
Why is there no smartphones that is bigger than 5.7 inches available in the United States Of America?
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there is, one that i know for sure is huawei mate 8, a 6 incher, it supports ATT and T-Mo LTE bands in USA.
only gripe - the Kirin 950 SoC, not the performance side of it, but the no source code side of it, meaning no 3rd party roms, OS upgrade and security patches are at mercy of huawei, they are not known to be diligent when it comes to that ..
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review

nathanotis said:
It's nice to know I'm not the only one whose been clamoring for a 7" phone since the first Samsung Tab was released! PUT A CELLULAR RADIO IN IT, I said.
I'll be bringing the Zenfone 3 Ultra into the states in a couple of months. Might even have a go at opening up the US LTE bands with the post at the top of this forum.
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The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....

omniphil said:
The Samsung Tab S 8.4 certainly had a cellular radio in it, that was my last cell phone...
I like big phone and I can not lie....
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How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)

nathanotis said:
How did it work as a phone? Was the size ever a hindrance?
(Just realized you also posted to the other thread I'm watching)
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I doesn't easily fit in your pocket, but that's really the only size hindrance. I actually still have it and use it in my car as a navigation device. It still preforms quite well..
It was cheap too under $500 when new, which is quite a bit cheaper than any flagship phone at the time.

It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.

cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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It's priced high because it just came out, if you wait a month it should come down to normal pricing....

cryingthug said:
It seems that the Zenfone 3 Ultra (International version & no warranty) is being sold on a large Internet website but it costs several hundred more than they said it would be. It is priced out of reach at almost $700 it is not worth the money. I am not buying.
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The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.

There is a market for the plus 5.7 phones. Everytime one these phones are announced , people that like smaller phones complain as if they'll be forced to switch. Most of those that prefer smaller phones act as though they don't want the larger phones released.
Why does this bother people that like smaller phones? When the original Galaxy Note came out it was groundbreaking for a mainstream company to release a phone that big. Now it's commonplace ( I'm looking at you Apple - iPhone Plus )

shdwphnx said:
The 4GB/64GB model runs for $630 or so for first hand retail (IE: direct from the original seller). The $700 you mentioned is from a reseller (IE: they paid $630 and are reselling it for a small profit).
The 3GB/32GB model runs for about $460, and is probably more in line with the pricing you had heard announced.
The real trick is finding either model in stock at a first hand retailer, as the resellers are buying them up as quickly as they can.
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Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.

Slbtrb79 said:
Just a little I formation for ones that might be looking to purchase the Asus Zenfone ultra (ZU680KL), with 4gb of ram and 64gb internal memory.
I purchased mine new, from EBay with a one year warranty. Purchase price was 593.00, factory unlocked, with free shipping and handling (still higher than originally advertised). Device came from Never-Msrp, out of Houston, Texas.
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What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )

mikkej2k said:
What carrier are you using your phone on? What type of bands will the phone let you access? What type of factory support do you get? ( if any? )
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Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Slbtrb79 said:
Cricket, which is owned by AT&T, also speeds are capped by them at 4Mbps on 4G and 8Mbps on LTE. I get Hsdpa bands and Gsm bands. The phone has LTE bands, but can't be accessed here. I'm hoping to root soon, not sure if the LTE bands can be accessed then. This however is not real important to me or I would have not purchased the phone anyway. I'm getting 3Mbps on download speeds. Was getting 4-5Mbps on my HTC 10, thru Cricket. Have had no problems to ask for any factory support yet. Asus sent paperwork with phone for a one year warranty against defects and workmanship (standard for most phones). I have something thru eBay, not sure for how long. The warranty really does you no good if you root the phone though. I had a one year warranty on my HTC One M8 and have a one year on my HTC 10, but they are rooted, so their warranties we're voided anyway. Never had to ask for factory support on them either. Asus has a website devoted to their phones, with various types of information, even including how to's on bootloader unlocking on many models (including the zenfone 3 deluxe), source codes, etc.
I guess it's a matter of what you want out of a phone. If you want a faster processor and LTE in the US, this is not the phone for you. It's not the phone my HTC 10 was (gave to my wife), because of the processor, and LTE. But I was essentially looking for a 7 inch tablet with 4gb of ram, great camera, video player with a very good sounding dual speakers, external SD card, and has phone ability. Very hard to find many 7 inch tablets with all the above specs together. I get all of the above with this 6.8 screen Ultra phablet. Also the build quality of this phone has really improved over the previous Asus phones. Realy like the metal workmanship. Not quite as good as HTC 10, but getting there. So far very happy with it and hoping they will unlock the bootloader like they did for the Deluxe.
Thanks for the questions. Never knew how to answer in short sentences. I answer this way in person also. Hope it wasn't to long winded for you.
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Also, as a side note. There is a factory rom and source code for the Ultra ZU680KL on Asus site for download, in case you would have a problem.

Motorola nexus 6 is 5.96 inches FYI.
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If you want to know why manufacturers are not shipping as much to the US lately, look at the patent system in the US. Once you ship any products to the US, you are counting down the time until you get sued by someone in east Texas...
Not worth the money to sell things in the US market until this situation gets under control.

Is carphonewarehouse version free of bloat? How is warranty and return service?

Thinking of getting contract for a pixel on whether O2 or EE.
What is your experience with returns, faults and warranty?
Is it free of branding and any network bloat?
This phone is expensive and better be good if I pay that much. I already red many reviews and I am very happy about general performance being very fast and fluid combined with excelent camera.
I also looked into oneplus 3T but costumer service is the only thing that stops me from opting for that phone.
I also read its worth getting XL since the battery is really good but i am not sure i will be able to contain its size one handed.
Biggest phone I owned was OPO1 while ussualy i do use 5-5'2" inchers. Moto g3 huawei p9.
Thanks

I bought from CPWH last week with Vodafone contract. There is no bloatwares included. It is pure stock. I never like a phone more than 5.2" screen. I like this Pixel so far. I rooted and also removed all google apps like video, music etc as I do not use them and also want to freeup some system ROM.

I'd like to point out that ID Mobile do quite a good deal on 2gb data (and this includes using your calls/text/data abroad) at £31.50 per month with £50 upfront.
I just ordered with them based on this (order direct with ID, carphone warehouse have inflated their prices) and am looking forward to ditching my Honor 4X!
I can update on if there is any bloat when I get it tomorrow or Saturday. I doubt it though as they all just use the standard pixel rom?

went for 32gb version. I ussually keep it minimal stuff on my phone and on the other hand i could not justify price jump for more storage. It is almost insanity I noticed the more storage I have on my phone the more junk i have too.
And yes I was confirmed all updates come from Google just like nexus 5x i bought at cpw on o2 contract some 1.5 year ago.
Can't wait until Monday when I play with that beast of the phones.
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nebulaoperator said:
Thinking of getting contract for a pixel on whether O2 or EE.
What is your experience with returns, faults and warranty?
Is it free of branding and any network bloat?
This phone is expensive and better be good if I pay that much. I already red many reviews and I am very happy about general performance being very fast and fluid combined with excelent camera.
I also looked into oneplus 3T but costumer service is the only thing that stops me from opting for that phone.
I also read its worth getting XL since the battery is really good but i am not sure i will be able to contain its size one handed.
Biggest phone I owned was OPO1 while ussualy i do use 5-5'2" inchers. Moto g3 huawei p9.
Thanks
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Google t&cs say warranty only covers original buyer with proof of purchase (I assume from a proper retailer if not Google Store UK).
They will tell you to go back to the place/person you got it from for warranty repairs/exchanges.. if you cannot prove you are the original purchaser.
This was the main reason I had to pass up on an amazing used XL deal (£500 for a good as new Quite Black 32gb) in November.. and reluctantly paid for a normal Pixel direct from Google.
However.. when you buy a handset direct from Google the customer service experience is equivalent to Apples.. it only falls of the cliff if you purchase from a third party.
That is why I decided to pay full price.. for the full comprehensive hassle-free warranty (note, this is the first time in ages I have paid RRP for one of my gadgets.. just for the peace of mind)!
Nevertheless, I have had a Pixel replaced (with a brand new one) recently due to a screen issue (please see my other threads for info if curious).. and that was smooth and pretty quick given the current stock shortages.

kkh786 said:
Google t&cs say warranty only covers original buyer with proof of purchase (I assume from a proper retailer if not Google Store UK).
They will tell you to go back to the place/person you got it from for warranty repairs/exchanges.. if you cannot prove you are the original purchaser.
This was the main reason I had to pass up on an amazing used XL deal (£500 for a good as new Quite Black 32gb) in November.. and reluctantly paid for a normal Pixel direct from Google.
However.. when you buy a handset direct from Google the customer service experience is equivalent to Apples.. it only falls of the cliff if you purchase from a third party.
That is why I decided to pay full price.. for the full comprehensive hassle-free warranty (note, this is the first time in ages I have paid RRP for one of my gadgets.. just for the peace of mind)!
Nevertheless, I have had a Pixel replaced (with a brand new one) recently due to a screen issue (please see my other threads for info if curious).. and that was smooth and pretty quick given the current stock shortages.
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Carephonewarehouse is a proper retailer here in UK. I spoke to them and they told me they would be dealing with me in case of any fault, repair.
I just wonder if I be still able to use google 24/7 support line that Google advertise with every Pixel phone. Any idea?
I am still a little sceptical about amoled technology nevertheless I felt more confident going with google. I twill be my first non-IPS based smartphone Pretty much excited.

nebulaoperator said:
Carephonewarehouse is a proper retailer here in UK. I spoke to them and they told me they would be dealing with me in case of any fault, repair.
I just wonder if I be still able to use google 24/7 support line that Google advertise with every Pixel phone. Any idea?
I am still a little sceptical about amoled technology nevertheless I felt more confident going with google. I twill be my first non-IPS based smartphone Pretty much excited.
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I have experience with CPW customer service.. I am from the UK as well.
What I was implying was.. if something goes wrong with your Pixel.. CPW will ask to you to send it away for repair etc (can take weeks).. before they issue a replacement (this is after diagnosis).
But when purchased via Google.. they will send you a replacement then ask for the faulty device back (this is after contacting them about the issue.. I have experience of this.. just like Apple normally would do).
Also, the 24/7 support is for all Pixel users (such as technical queries, trouble shooting etc). However, when the issue is deemed warranty related the 24/7 support team will tell you to contact the original the seller i.e. CPW.
Hope that makes sense.

kkh786 said:
I have experience with CPW customer service.. I am from the UK as well.
What I was implying was.. if something goes wrong with your Pixel.. CPW will ask to you to send it away for repair etc (can take weeks).. before they issue a replacement (this is after diagnosis).
But when purchased via Google.. they will send you a replacement then ask for the faulty device back (this is after contacting them about the issue.. I have experience of this.. just like Apple normally would do).
Also, the 24/7 support is for all Pixel users (such as technical queries, trouble shooting etc). However, when the issue is deemed warranty related the 24/7 support team will tell you to contact the original the seller i.e. CPW.
Hope that makes sense.
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Oh I see. That is fine with me. If I had lump sump I would opt for google store purchase too. That is excellent choice you made .
What phone did you have prior to Pixel? Are you happy with your choice?

nebulaoperator said:
Oh I see. That is fine with me. If I had lump sump I would opt for google store purchase too. That is excellent choice you made .
What phone did you have prior to Pixel? Are you happy with your choice?
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I have had all the iPhones since the iPhone 5 (no plus szie models though) and have just come off an iPhone 7 to the Pixel.
Android wise I have had all the Nexii bar the first One, 6 and 6P.
I like to try most new phones out.. especially the iOS and pure Android ones.. but never been too keen on in Samsungs/LGs/HTCs etc although have tried them all.

Tell me about your experience Iphone 7 vs Pixel? Which one? I have had Iphone 6 though and can tell you I did like too it's reliability which I expect from Pixel phone . It has to simply work.

OnePlus 6 worth it in 2019?

Hey, i am currently discussing with myself if OnePlus 6 is still a worth buy in 2019? Going to buy it from Gearbest. (Have bought there before)
Want your guys opinions!! If you are going to say no, please write why.
Thank you.

rawimagee said:
Hey, i am currently discussing with myself if OnePlus 6 is still a worth buy in 2019? Going to buy it from Gearbest. (Have bought there before)
Want your guys opinions!! If you are going to say no, please write why.
Thank you.
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Just sold mine(8/256) on Swappa for, I thing , very reasonable price - my backup is moto X4 and now I have a clear view on what's coming up for 2019.

Depends on your budget and if your patient. Personally at this point I would wait for the 7. But personally I still love my 6. Seems to get better with time

I don't see why not. Manufacturers aren't making huge advances these days in mobile tech as far as performance. It's all about gadget features now. Well start seeing cool folding tech this year, but I don't well see anything at all that is going to severely out perform what we have. I won't go and pay big bucks any time soon for anything else unless it's foldable.

qbanlinxx said:
Depends on your budget and if your patient. Personally at this point I would wait for the 7. But personally I still love my 6. Seems to get better with time
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Definitely, OP6 is a great phone. I realized that I could still describe my phone's condition as "mint", no blemishes whatsoever and so it went.
As for OP7, it could be another big hit for OP and not just because of the new 855 SoC, but it might also have a new UFS 3.0 storage as the rumor goes:
https://bgr.com/2019/01/07/oneplus-7-vs-galaxy-s10-speed-ufs-3-0-benchmark-leaked/

Great phone. Best phone I have ever owned. I hope to get at least two years out of it. Maybe upgrade when 5g is widespread.
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If theres a nice discount and you don't care about the headphone jack (OP7 may not have it) then it'll still be a great buy. I'm planning to use this phone until the battery dies out on me or some other kind of failure if any.

I got mine couple months ago and would buy again. Headphone jack and hardware fingerprint scanner are great to have.

Just bought one. Very good deals at the moment and like has been mentioned, 5g is on it's way.
Best phone I have had so far.

Got mine in November, no regrets at all.
Check out Gearbest, purchased it for around 360$ brand new, it came with OxygenOS out of the box, but if it doesn't, rebranding is easy as just it just requires the installation of the ROM via the system updater !

for around 400$ is a great deal. (8/128).

Serious Question...

I'm really on the fence about ordering a OnePlus 7 Pro. I have a 512gb Note9 with an encrypted bootloader now and I'm bored out of my freaking mind.
I've been watching Swappa closely, just to see what is trending. I actually started watching Swappa for a deal on a Pixel 3XL and kinda ended up in the OnePlus 7 Pro section too. If I order a Oneplus 7 Pro I will get it direct from OnePlus just for warranty peace of mind.
But I see a disturbing trend of all the OnePlus 7 Pro's going up for sale rather quickly. Pretty common to see "only used for 2 days" or even "used once or twice" and then boxed back up promptly for resale..... WHY?
Why is everybody using this device once or twice and then immediately trying to sell if off? Got me pretty concerned about making a $782.19 purchase. It was a lot easier to stomach when a OnePlus was only $500.

Why don't you ask them? There could be many reasons. I'm very happy with mine, I would have no idea why someone else isn't.

I guess the best you can do is watch some YouTube reviews,read about common issues and concerns,I don't use swappa but maybe you could message a seller there and ask,
Id imagine people just find the phone too big,don't like the curved display,most likely something to do with the design I'd say.

djsubterrain said:
Why don't you ask them? There could be many reasons. I'm very happy with mine, I would have no idea why someone else isn't.
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I try not to spam their listing with questions when I have no intention of actually purchasing the item. I also couldn't expect them to answer candidly on the same page they are tying to recoup $700 on.
Whenever possible I follow their XDA names/links and send a PM asking. No responses so far. I did see one guy state he was selling because he was just to "entrenched in the Apple Ecosystem" but if he was going to keep an Android the OnePlus 7 Pro is "the phone to have". Then an hour later he purchased a Pixel 3XL in another listing I was also watching. :silly:

Pretty stupid on their part. They just return the phone in the first 14 days and not lose $250 from the resale cost. I have patience for stupidity.

Eric214 said:
Pretty stupid on their part. They just return the phone in the first 14 days and not lose $250 from the resale cost. I have patience for stupidity.
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I did see one of the sellers say he was trying to sell it on Swappa because OnePlus charges a 15% restocking fee. If that is true its news to me.
manus31 said:
I guess the best you can do is watch some YouTube reviews,read about common issues and concerns,I don't use swappa but maybe you could message a seller there and ask,
Id imagine people just find the phone too big,don't like the curved display,most likely something to do with the design I'd say.
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I've been watching YouTube videos and reviews and unboxings and scouring the internet pretty much nonstop since the release. I'm not worried about ghost touches as I never use NFC. Size, weight and curved edges are all the bees knees to me. I'm an HTC Max user from way back and always buy the biggest screen available in any line.
The only real deal breaker problem I could see is if the camera produced literally unusable pictures. I take LOTS of pictures daily. They don't have to be better than the Samsung's or the Pixels (I've had both). But they do need to be worth keeping. I'm afraid the only way I will be able to answer that question is to see for myself in person ie order one.
I will say I am pretty picky about the color though. I don't really care for the Nebula Blue much but I REALLY want that 12GB ram...

Namolas said:
I try not to spam their listing with questions when I have no intention of actually purchasing the item. I also couldn't expect them to answer candidly on the same page they are tying to recoup $700 on.
Whenever possible I follow their XDA names/links and send a PM asking. No responses so far. I did see one guy state he was selling because he was just to "entrenched in the Apple Ecosystem" but if he was going to keep an Android the OnePlus 7 Pro is "the phone to have". Then an hour later he purchased a Pixel 3XL in another listing I was also watching. :silly:
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Due to the number of people who have tried unlocks, etc and had issues I would be, at least, looking for photos or video of the device working before you stump over the cash but yeah, it's a great phone so watch some reviews and if you like what you see, go for it

The 12gb ram model was the one OnePlus sent out as review units/influencers/promoters. They could just be u loading. Also people buy phones without checking compatibility, maybe not for their carrier. If not on T-Mobile there's always some issue, i.e. Sprint not working at all, att not WiFi calling, Verizon cdma_less issues. Could be any number of issues but don't let that worry you. Same thing happens with every phone that is released. I personally sold my s10e after 3 days just because, there was no "I need to keep tilhis phone" feeling. My op7 pro gives me that feeling , it's one of the best phones I've ever used, and I replaced my pixel 3 xl with it.

strictlyphat said:
The 12gb ram model was the one OnePlus sent out as review units/influencers/promoters. They could just be u loading. Also people buy phones without checking compatibility, maybe not for their carrier. If not on T-Mobile there's always some issue, i.e. Sprint not working at all, att not WiFi calling, Verizon cdma_less issues. Could be any number of issues but don't let that worry you. Same thing happens with every phone that is released. I personally sold my s10e after 3 days just because, there was no "I need to keep tilhis phone" feeling. My op7 pro gives me that feeling , it's one of the best phones I've ever used, and I replaced my pixel 3 xl with it.
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Well, that's the big decision I've been trying to make. Its between the Pixel 3XL or the OnePlus 7 Pro. I just feel you are getting so much more with the 7 Pro. No regrets leaving the 3XL?
djsubterrain said:
Due to the number of people who have tried unlocks, etc and had issues I would be, at least, looking for photos or video of the device working before you stump over the cash but yeah, it's a great phone so watch some reviews and if you like what you see, go for it
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Think I'm gonna pull the trigger! If you don't mind me asking what color/variant did you guys get? Anything you would change now that you've had it a while?

Namolas said:
Well, that's the big decision I've been trying to make. Its between the Pixel 3XL or the OnePlus 7 Pro. I just feel you are getting so much more with the 7 Pro. No regrets leaving the 3XL?
Think I'm gonna pull the trigger! If you don't mind me asking what color/variant did you guys get? Anything you would change now that you've had it a while?
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None at all. Pixel 3xl performance is garbage. Hiccups, stuttering was terribly annoying. Only good things were camera and software day 1. I'm like those swappa sellers you're skeptical about, I change my phone monthly sometimes. In 4 years I've made 90 sales, 60 were my personal use device. The longest I've kept a phone was OnePlus 6 for 6 months. Ill never fo back to iOS, and in Android world OnePlus is my favorite. I don't use camera just for pics of the kids. I NEVER take selfies.
I ended up with the 8gb blue direct from oneplus. I wanted the 12gb but it was 14 days until shipping and couldn't wait. I got the T-Mobile gray on lau ch day but hated the software/sim lock/ single sim, but the 12gb would have gotten here after my return period was up with T-Mobile. Still no regrets, I don't think it would have bee. Any big change in performance. I'm still surprised to how many apps are still where I left them even several hours later.

Namolas said:
Well, that's the big decision I've been trying to make. Its between the Pixel 3XL or the OnePlus 7 Pro. I just feel you are getting so much more with the 7 Pro. No regrets leaving the 3XL?
Think I'm gonna pull the trigger! If you don't mind me asking what color/variant did you guys get? Anything you would change now that you've had it a while?
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Just do it. My sequence was Pixel 3XL > S10+> OnePlus 7 pro
I just gave one UI other chance as you see, but stock Android and OOS(near stock) are way better, especially together with a hardware top of the line (OnePlus 7pro).

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None at all. Pixel 3xl performance is garbage. Hiccups, stuttering was terribly annoying. Only good things were camera and software day 1. I'm like those swappa sellers you're skeptical about, I change my phone monthly sometimes. In 4 years I've made 90 sales, 60 were my personal use device. The longest I've kept a phone was OnePlus 6 for 6 months. Ill never fo back to iOS, and in Android world OnePlus is my favorite. I don't use camera just for pics of the kids. I NEVER take selfies.
I ended up with the 8gb blue direct from oneplus. I wanted the 12gb but it was 14 days until shipping and couldn't wait. I got the T-Mobile gray on lau ch day but hated the software/sim lock/ single sim, but the 12gb would have gotten here after my return period was up with T-Mobile. Still no regrets, I don't think it would have bee. Any big change in performance. I'm still surprised to how many apps are still where I left them even several hours later.
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Wow you really got that Swappa ? down!
So I guess I need to decide if I go with 12GB and wait 12 days for delivery and then have to try to cover up that nebula blue with a skin or something. Or go with Grey , get it in 2 days and don't have to worry about covering up that blue. Decisions decisions....

strictlyphat said:
None at all. Pixel 3xl performance is garbage. Hiccups, stuttering was terribly annoying. Only good things were camera and software day 1. I'm like those swappa sellers you're skeptical about, I change my phone monthly sometimes. In 4 years I've made 90 sales, 60 were my personal use device. The longest I've kept a phone was OnePlus 6 for 6 months. Ill never fo back to iOS, and in Android world OnePlus is my favorite. I don't use camera just for pics of the kids. I NEVER take selfies.
I ended up with the 8gb blue direct from oneplus. I wanted the 12gb but it was 14 days until shipping and couldn't wait. I got the T-Mobile gray on lau ch day but hated the software/sim lock/ single sim, but the 12gb would have gotten here after my return period was up with T-Mobile. Still no regrets, I don't think it would have bee. Any big change in performance. I'm still surprised to how many apps are still where I left them even several hours later.
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I completely agree about the Pixel 3 XL performance, complete garbage. At the time I had the Pixel 3 XL, T-Mobile OnePlus 6t, and unlocked OnePlus 6t from OnePlus. I sold the Pixel. The only thing that phone has going for it was the camera, and like you said day one software updates, but the performance is horrible on that phone.

Namolas said:
I'm really on the fence about ordering a OnePlus 7 Pro. I have a 512gb Note9 with an encrypted bootloader now and I'm bored out of my freaking mind.
I've been watching Swappa closely, just to see what is trending. I actually started watching Swappa for a deal on a Pixel 3XL and kinda ended up in the OnePlus 7 Pro section too. If I order a Oneplus 7 Pro I will get it direct from OnePlus just for warranty peace of mind.
But I see a disturbing trend of all the OnePlus 7 Pro's going up for sale rather quickly. Pretty common to see "only used for 2 days" or even "used once or twice" and then boxed back up promptly for resale..... WHY?
Why is everybody using this device once or twice and then immediately trying to sell if off? Got me pretty concerned about making a $782.19 purchase. It was a lot easier to stomach when a OnePlus was only $500.
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I see this with every phone that comes out. Samsung etc.. it's what people do

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I did see one of the sellers say he was trying to sell it on Swappa because OnePlus charges a 15% restocking fee. If that is true its news to me.
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They only do that in the US... frustrating yeah but 15% of the most expensive phone at $750 is just $112 so I still ask, why sell it on swappa and take a $200 hit? I think you said he was selling for $500? Doesn't make much sense to me, he'd still get more money back just returning it.
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Wow you really got that Swappa down!
So I guess I need to decide if I go with 12GB and wait 12 days for delivery and then have to try to cover up that nebula blue with a skin or something. Or go with Grey , get it in 2 days and don't have to worry about covering up that blue. Decisions decisions....
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Your going to have to cover either phone. They are WAY too slippery to really use naked. I used to use my phones naked (I've never dropped a phone) but I don't trust these phones sine teh OP5 and OP6 and not OP 7Pro.

I've always had black or grey phones but the blue is amazing. I agree it is so slippery being olephobic gorilla glass. I hate to cover it. It like a minimal perimeter case.
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I got the blue one
Why not use the included case? It's a perfect fit and doesn't cover up the beautiful back or the light around the edge. I've always put a case on my phones and have never cracked or broken a phone in any way. This bad boy is slippery and I have no problem or issue using the clear case!!

Eric214 said:
Pretty stupid on their part. They just return the phone in the first 14 days and not lose $250 from the resale cost. I have patience for stupidity.
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Exactly. I too have no patience for stupidity.
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Namolas said:
Well, that's the big decision I've been trying to make. Its between the Pixel 3XL or the OnePlus 7 Pro. I just feel you are getting so much more with the 7 Pro. No regrets leaving the 3XL?
Think I'm gonna pull the trigger! If you don't mind me asking what color/variant did you guys get? Anything you would change now that you've had it a while?
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I got the blue one from T-mobile, I always get blue if it's available for the phone I am interested in since it's my favorite color. I too sometimes switch phones monthly which I have the option of doing if I want since I am a Jump On Demand customer with T-Mobile and have that option. Longest I have kept a phone in the last year is almost 2.5 months.

I switched from the Note 9. 90hz screen made it a keeper for me. Camera is not bad as some ppl make it seem but of course the Note 9 camera is better. Haptic feedback is also better but still not on the same level like on the iPhone and Pixel yet. I've also bought the Nillkin Type C Wireless Charging USB C Receiver for wireless charging and Elevation Lab USB-C CordDock as a secondary even though honestly I really didn't need to purchase that as the wireless reciever works. Battery is the same as on the Note 9. The only thing I miss is one handed mode. Stock android and or Oxygen OS should really develop a one handed mode since these phones are getting larger each year.

Pop up camera risk

Hi, this might sound silly but I found the camera pop up when there is incoming WhatsApp video call. Is there a way to disable this? I find it dangerous if I get an incoming call when the phone is in my pocket. Might damage the pop-up mechanism?
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spicediablo said:
Hi, this might sound silly but I found the camera pop up when there is incoming WhatsApp video call. Is there a way to disable this? I find it dangerous if I get an incoming call when the phone is in my pocket. Might damage the pop-up mechanism?
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Remove camera permissions maybe from whatsapp?

reliot said:
Remove camera permissions maybe from whatsapp?
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Yes I was thinking to automate this with Tasker. Managed to create task but have no way of automating it as I do not know how to write script to detect WhatsApp end call to trigger revoke of camera permission
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mine is already broken, I didn't even use it 10 times since I got the phone. I live in UK but I bought it from Spain, Xiaomi won't fix it even if I pay. the link is the video showing the issue.

Do the calibration.
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raycon said:
mine is already broken, I didn't even use it 10 times since I got the phone. I live in UK but I bought it from Spain, Xiaomi won't fix it even if I pay. the link is the video showing the issue.
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That doesn't look good. Where did you buy it from. I also bought one form Spain but mine hasn't been delivered yet. Can you not send it back? This should be a manufacturing fault.

we are beyond the calibration phase ? I bought it from powerplanetonline. I don't want to send it to Spain because the seller told me it would take around 2-3 month untill they have the parts ? I asked xiaomi UK to fix it and they told me to go away and next time to buy it from them, although on their website says that I can claim warranty anywhere in EU if it was bought from EU. I asked xiaomi UK to fix it with money they told me nope and recommend me to go to a local repair shop(not authorised repair because they don't have any in UK). the repair shop opened it and the pop up camera motor is fried, and there is no spare parts at the moment.
So this phone got me thinking about the fake nature of Xiaomi, like saying on their website I can claim warranty but on the email said fu*k off.
I still can't believe that a manufacturer refuses to fix even with money what is their fault to begin with. ?
that should be illegal.

raycon said:
we are beyond the calibration phase I bought it from powerplanetonline. I don't want to send it to Spain because the seller told me it would take around 2-3 month untill they have the parts ? I asked xiaomi UK to fix it and they told me to go away and next time to buy it from them, although on their website says that I can claim warranty anywhere in EU if it was bought from EU. I asked xiaomi UK to fix it with money they told me nope and recommend me to go to a local repair shop(not authorised repair because they don't have any in UK). the repair shop opened it and the pop up camera motor is fried, and there is no spare parts at the moment.
So this phone got me thinking about the fake nature of Xiaomi, like saying on their website I can claim warranty but on the email said fu*k off.
I still can't believe that a manufacturer refuses to fix even with money what is their fault to begin with. ?
that should be illegal.
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I totally agree with you. Xiaomi UK should provide you support as UK is still part of EU till the end of the year..
I used the same source but my shipping has been stuck. Can I ask how long did it take for you to get yours? Mine is now on a week stuck on in-transit but didn't get any closer. I already regret my decision buying from them. (sorry for the off topic)
What if you search for the motor online and try to order it from china? Aliexpress is a good source. I have seen on youtube its not hard to open and change the motor. On the other hand powerplanetonline has 2 years of warranty. Worst case I would use them.

I had the same issue as you did. it took them 10 days to arrive, because of Nacex. beware on what date they're gonna say it was delivered. I got mine on june 1st but the courier said it was delivered on 29 May. that difference cost me the return period and I couldn't return it because when I noticed the issue 2 weeks passed from 29 May, but I could've return it if they said it was delivered on june 1st like it happened. Please cancel your order. if you'll need warranty you are screwed. I thought that if I buy it from Spain, xiaomi uk will fix it but no. If anything will happen with the phone you will be stuck as I am. The motor isn't available anywhere, I looked everywhere, it's similar with the k20 pro motor but with different contact points.
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shadow78 said:
I totally agree with you. Xiaomi UK should provide you support as UK is still part of EU till the end of the year..
I used the same source but my shipping has been stuck. Can I ask how long did it take for you to get yours? Mine is now on a week stuck on in-transit but didn't get any closer. I already regret my decision buying from them. (sorry for the off topic)
What if you search for the motor online and try to order it from china? Aliexpress is a good source. I have seen on youtube its not hard to open and change the motor. On the other hand powerplanetonline has 2 years of warranty. Worst case I would use them.
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I opened a warranty claim on powerplanet website and they said they can't fix it untill they get their parts. I was like whaaaat? it's warranty, I don't care. it's gonna take a long time if you use warranty from them. because they need to send it to xiaomi and then xiaomi will fix it or not if they have the parts and then send it back to powerplanet and then powerplanet will send it back to you. And you see how long it takes only to get an order directly from them, not to mention al this back and forth. I now voided the warranty anyway, opening the device to see what's wrong with it.
Another thing that you should keep in mind is, I think the storage or ram has some problems, like it always forgets settings, at system level, sometime I get an animation, next time I get another one, wallpapers, icons, dark mode, wifi passwords, background apps.
Not to mention that after the pop up camera issue, the phone starts to heat up like crazy, every component from CPU to battery is above 43c hot, from 10h of SoT now I get maximum 5h. I understand it's a defective unit and it may not affect everyone, but when you have problems with the phone and Xiaomi tells you they will not fix it even if you pay.. it's crazy
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shadow78 said:
I totally agree with you. Xiaomi UK should provide you support as UK is still part of EU till the end of the year..
I used the same source but my shipping has been stuck. Can I ask how long did it take for you to get yours? Mine is now on a week stuck on in-transit but didn't get any closer. I already regret my decision buying from them. (sorry for the off topic)
What if you search for the motor online and try to order it from china? Aliexpress is a good source. I have seen on youtube its not hard to open and change the motor. On the other hand powerplanetonline has 2 years of warranty. Worst case I would use them.
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One more thing: Xiaomi told me they can't fix it because it's not the european version. Powerplanet says it is the European version. I don't know who to believe at this point. ?

maybe you have only chinese device with global rom,thats problem. please link where you buy poco f2 pro

raycon said:
I had the same issue as you did. it took them 10 days to arrive, because of Nacex. beware on what date they're gonna say it was delivered. I got mine on june 1st but the courier said it was delivered on 29 May. that difference cost me the return period and I couldn't return it because when I noticed the issue 2 weeks passed from 29 May, but I could've return it if they said it was delivered on june 1st like it happened. Please cancel your order. if you'll need warranty you are screwed. I thought that if I buy it from Spain, xiaomi uk will fix it but no. If anything will happen with the phone you will be stuck as I am. The motor isn't available anywhere, I looked everywhere, it's similar with the k20 pro motor but with different contact points.
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I opened a warranty claim on powerplanet website and they said they can't fix it untill they get their parts. I was like whaaaat? it's warranty, I don't care. it's gonna take a long time if you use warranty from them. because they need to send it to xiaomi and then xiaomi will fix it or not if they have the parts and then send it back to powerplanet and then powerplanet will send it back to you. And you see how long it takes only to get an order directly from them, not to mention al this back and forth. I now voided the warranty anyway, opening the device to see what's wrong with it.
Another thing that you should keep in mind is, I think the storage or ram has some problems, like it always forgets settings, at system level, sometime I get an animation, next time I get another one, wallpapers, icons, dark mode, wifi passwords, background apps.
Not to mention that after the pop up camera issue, the phone starts to heat up like crazy, every component from CPU to battery is above 43c hot, from 10h of SoT now I get maximum 5h. I understand it's a defective unit and it may not affect everyone, but when you have problems with the phone and Xiaomi tells you they will not fix it even if you pay.. it's crazy
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One more thing: Xiaomi told me they can't fix it because it's not the european version. Powerplanet says it is the European version. I don't know who to believe at this point. ?
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You can easily determinate what version it is. If the bootloader still locked you can check the firmware version. Here //c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1900380 you can see what version the global or the eeu has and check what you have. (put https: infront of the link)
I dont think I can cancel my order. I will probably wait for now and see what happens but I may send it back right away its arrived and claim for refund. I have the mi 9t pro potentially with the same motor and working fine.
Even if I would buy one form ebay or amazon could end up with the same result. I have a few days to think about it I guess.
I ordered the 8gb version not sure what you get but potentially the Ram should be better then on the 6gb. What you describe is more like a firmware issue not hardware but its hard make statement as it has a faulty part, which may cause most of your problems.

I have the EU rom on it. but they might have sideload it. imei checker from xiaomi website sais it's international version but I don't understand what that actually means, it might just mean that it's not china version . Anyway xiaomi doesn't want to deal with it anyway.
I applied for unlocking the bootloader so I can install the global rom maybe this is what causes the issues, being an international version but with a EU rom, I don't know, I'll update you once I'll unlock the bootloader

raycon said:
I have the EU rom on it. but they might have sideload it. imei checker from xiaomi website sais it's international version but I don't understand what that actually means, it might just mean that it's not china version . Anyway xiaomi doesn't want to deal with it anyway.
I applied for unlocking the bootloader so I can install the global rom maybe this is what causes the issues, being an international version but with a EU rom, I don't know, I'll update you once I'll unlock the bootloader
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Was the box open? If not I don't think they loaded a different firmware. Shame to Xiaomi for the lack of support. You can try to flash the global rom on it once the BL unlocked. I have the global mi9t pro and flashed the eea rom on it and was able to lock the BL after. Normally if you flash a different region firmware on a device and try to lock the BL would cause brick. Not sure if this would be the same with the poco.

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Was the box open? If not I don't think they loaded a different firmware. Shame to Xiaomi for the lack of support. You can try to flash the global rom on it once the BL unlocked. I have the global mi9t pro and flashed the eea rom on it and was able to lock the BL after. Normally if you flash a different region firmware on a device and try to lock the BL would cause brick. Not sure if this would be the same with the poco.
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the box was sealed in that plastic thing, I don't remember if it had a warranty sticker between the box and the lid.
If they didn't sideload it it means that Xiaomi is lying through their teeth.
Anyway I think xiaomi might refer to the fact that if you buy it from them you can claim warranty anywhere in EU, I don't know.
The thing is I'm not even mad about the camera anymore, I wasn't using it anyway, but what drives me crazy is the heating issue ? I'm typing here only with xda app opened and it hot like crazy.
sometimes when I disable and enable MIUI optimisation in developer options it cools itself. but I think it forgets after a half an hour and start to heat up again ???

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You can easily determinate what version it is. If the bootloader still locked you can check the firmware version. Here //c.mi.com/oc/miuidownload/detail?device=1900380 you can see what version the global or the eeu has and check what you have. (put https: infront of the link)
I dont think I can cancel my order. I will probably wait for now and see what happens but I may send it back right away its arrived and claim for refund. I have the mi 9t pro potentially with the same motor and working fine.
Even if I would buy one form ebay or amazon could end up with the same result. I have a few days to think about it I guess.
I ordered the 8gb version not sure what you get but potentially the Ram should be better then on the 6gb. What you describe is more like a firmware issue not hardware but its hard make statement as it has a faulty part, which may cause most of your problems.
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I checked to see where is from, check this out: ???
I checked the imei and it says:
Sales region: Cambodia
Activation country: China
Nice one, so they did side load the EU rom, and that's why xiaomi refuses to fix it

raycon said:
I checked to see where is from, check this out: ???
I checked the imei and it says:
Sales region: Cambodia
Activation country: China
Nice one, so they did side load the EU rom, and that's why xiaomi refuses to fix it
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I dont think this this is relevant. The poco is not for the chinese market they have the k30 pro there. I doubt they would have side loaded anything specially if the bootloader is locked. They would have leave it unlocked. This was the case with the k20 pro sales last year.
Why it has Cambodia ?? :silly:
When you requested a repair from xiaomi uk they asked the imei and the serial? Did you question why they saying this isn't an eu version?

the sales region is Cambodia, this is something I discovered on Imei.info
Xiaomi uk said only that they can't help me because in their database my phone appears as no warranty supported ? although it came with warranty card stating that xiaomi is legally obligated to repair my phone ?
If it was an european version I think xiaomi would've consider my warranty

You can try buying a K20 Pro motor a solder some wires to fix your camera, it should work, they seem the same

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we are beyond the calibration phase [emoji23] I bought it from powerplanetonline. I don't want to send it to Spain because the seller told me it would take around 2-3 month untill they have the parts [emoji849] I asked xiaomi UK to fix it and they told me to go away and next time to buy it from them, although on their website says that I can claim warranty anywhere in EU if it was bought from EU. I asked xiaomi UK to fix it with money they told me nope and recommend me to go to a local repair shop(not authorised repair because they don't have any in UK). the repair shop opened it and the pop up camera motor is fried, and there is no spare parts at the moment.
So this phone got me thinking about the fake nature of Xiaomi, like saying on their website I can claim warranty but on the email said fu*k off.
I still can't believe that a manufacturer refuses to fix even with money what is their fault to begin with. [emoji848]
that should be illegal.
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Bring the case to your consumer association. Show them you mean business!
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raycon said:
the sales region is Cambodia, this is something I discovered on Imei.info
Xiaomi uk said only that they can't help me because in their database my phone appears as no warranty supported ? although it came with warranty card stating that xiaomi is legally obligated to repair my phone
If it was an european version I think xiaomi would've consider my warranty
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Right mine turned up this morning. There is still no update on NACEX website still shows in-transit. I have contacted powerplanet last week where they advised the package has been sent according to the service they advertise on the website. This clearly didn't happen, cause it has been posted with the economy service instead of the express service, which should have taken up to 3 days and what I have paid for. I wouldn't recommend anyone to go with them...
Haven't opened the box yet. It doesn't have any factory seal over the bottom just the foil wrap around the box. Where did you check those info regarding the imei please? Just want to check mine before open it.