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I would like to root my sensation, but before, I want to backup my stock rom, so, in case of problems, I can go back.
But, if I have understood well, in order to perform a Nandroid backup (with ROM Manager, right?), I need to root my phone: it's completely absurd!
If I root my phone, which backup can I do? The stock Rom will gone away and the guarantee too!
Do I miss something?
Another question: I read about some problems with Rom Manager, which are the other methods to do a nandroid backup?
Thanks and sorry for the noob question, but I am a noob and this is my first android phone.
bye!
you will still have stock roms after you have rooted so this is what you have to make a backup from.
Have no issue with rom manager- dont know where u heard that from.
Dont know of any other method other than nandroid to backup rom etc
u can use titanium backup / my backup for apps etc
hth
j.
Well, if i have understood correctly, I root my phone following the step 3 here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300), then with ROM Manager I make a Nandroid backup and finally, if I want, I can install another ROM, am I right?
If u wanna go back 2 stock that's what the ruu's are for
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Here's a guide created by alphadog32 to go back to your specified ROM and s-off or s-on. 10 people said it worked for them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201773
rive-noob said:
Well, if i have understood correctly, I root my phone following the step 3 here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300), then with ROM Manager I make a Nandroid backup and finally, if I want, I can install another ROM, am I right?
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do a backup before you root
so sequence is (after CWM step is complete)
backup
root
backup (not 100% necessary but saves u having to reroot if u restore a pre root backup)
install custom rom (not necessary - u can stick with stock)
the guide u linked to is great - follow it step by step and u wont go wrong
and enjoy ur unrestricted device
That 'guide' tells you to root but you should only root if you want Stock ROM + Root
If you want a custom ROM (which automatically have root) then you don't need to root your Stock ROM
So you'd want to do this
-Revolutionary- S-OFF > Custom Recovery (but flash it through HBOOT) > Nandroid Backup
Then you have a backup of your stock ROM, unrooted.
You can now manually root your stock ROM if you like.
That 'guide' should really state that root is NOT obligatory if you don't want to stick with your stock ROM.
I've flashed lots and lots of ROMs and played about with my phone so much, but not once have I ever manually rooted.
And don't bother with ROM Manager, just flash the fixed recovery provided in that 'guide' through HBOOT and you should be fine.
All the recovery options, including Nandroid Backup/Restore can be accessed by loading up the bootloader and choosing 'recovery'. No need to do anything through ROM Manager
I want to confirm; we do need to make nandroid for every custom kernal, right? Cause if I remember correctly, if something goes wrong, you cant restore a nandroid that was made from a different kernal than you presently have installed. Correct or incorrect??
asapelectric said:
I want to confirm; we do need to make nandroid for every custom kernal, right? Cause if I remember correctly, if something goes wrong, you cant restore a nandroid that was made from a different kernal than you presently have installed. Correct or incorrect??
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Anyone, please?
asapelectric said:
Anyone, please?
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Never read about this anywhere, but I installed InsertCoin hours ago, and got kernel 2.6.35.14
When I restored a nandoird backup, I got again 2.6.25.10.
Maybe those numbers didn't change? I don't really remember, I hardly remember what I ate 10 mins ago xD
Good luck
claudenegm said:
Never read about this anywhere, but I installed InsertCoin hours ago, and got kernel 2.6.35.14
When I restored a nandoird backup, I got again 2.6.25.10.
Maybe those numbers didn't change? I don't really remember, I hardly remember what I ate 10 mins ago xD
Good luck
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So, maybe what Im remembering is, you can't restore a 2.3.3 backup, if you have rom with 2.3.4 installed, for example.
Shouldn't you be able to access nandroid recovery on a stock out of the box sensation by turning off fastboot and holding volume down and power when turning it on?
I tried on a friends stock sensation but it gave me an error and couldn't find a recovery image....
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.
jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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You could convert it... but you would have to write an updater-script, and get an updater-binary (you can basically steal it from any flashable zip.)
rob219 said:
after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.
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Should I remove the patch for CWM on every boot? Or i just download the recovery with rom manager ?
farshad525hou said:
You could convert it... but you would have to write an updater-script, and get an updater-binary (you can basically steal it from any flashable zip.)
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mmmm... interesting, i will try first the rom manager option and then look this. Thankyou all.
rob219 said:
after you apply the atrix bootstrap use rom manager and install the recovery for the droid bionic and you will be able to back up and restore roms. advance restore also works incase you do a wipe, install a rom, and then want your data restored.
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Well I tried this with no success , I installed the recovery for the droid bionic and then I reboot into recovery with rom manager and make a cwm backup, the result was an error when generating the md5Sum and my battery went from 60% to 3%, that kinda surprise me it's the second time that happens, the first time was when i was updating from stock 2.3.5 to 2.3.6.
Worth the shot i guess but until i can fix this i guess i'm screwed :'( .
jfrank1485 said:
Well I tried this with no success , I installed the recovery for the droid bionic and then I reboot into recovery with rom manager and make a cwm backup, the result was an error when generating the md5Sum and my battery went from 60% to 3%, that kinda surprise me it's the second time that happens, the first time was when i was updating from stock 2.3.5 to 2.3.6.
Worth the shot i guess but until i can fix this i guess i'm screwed :'( .
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Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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That is an interesting point because everything I've done, the rooted, the atrix bootstrap recovery and the CWM on boot patch has been with version stock rom 2.3.6 I never tried do it with the 2.3.5 so i guess i'll be downgrading tonigth to stock 2.3.5.
thank's, when i'm done i will inform of my result.
cheers.
farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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Follow what he said and you will be ok. I've messed this phone up more times than i can count trying to mod and theme stuff and the fkz is a life saver.
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farshad525hou said:
Try flashing the 2.3.5 fkz...
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It works!!!! it was the stock 2.3.6 update that was stopping me from backup or restore in CWM maybe it changes something in the bootloader that screw the CWM, but now i'm testing the Lithium rom 1.2 . Thank you all for your help and tips.
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Sorry for bringing this up again but I need the answer to the
original question on converting a CWM backup to flashable zip...
my question:
My CWM Backup consistes of 7 files:
boot.img
recovery.img
system.yaffs2.img
data.yaffs2.img
cache.yaffs2.img
nandroid.md5
.android_secure.vfat.tar
my guess is that the first two go directly into the update.zip
then What about the other three yaffs2 files and the .android_secure.vfat.tar file
how are they extracted/combined into the zip file??
ps.about the updater-script and updater-binary, can I take them both from any flashable zip?
hosamn said:
Sorry for bringing this up again but I need the answer to the
original question on converting a CWM backup to flashable zip...
my question:
My CWM Backup consistes of 7 files:
boot.img
recovery.img
system.yaffs2.img
data.yaffs2.img
cache.yaffs2.img
nandroid.md5
.android_secure.vfat.tar
my guess is that the first two go directly into the update.zip
then What about the other three yaffs2 files and the .android_secure.vfat.tar file
how are they extracted/combined into the zip file??
ps.about the updater-script and updater-binary, can I take them both from any flashable zip?
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Its possible, I have done it, and the only foders you need are system and data...
It will be a pain, tho, your gonna wanna do it through Linux, updater script needs to have the right commands in it to do this, so its def not a drag and drop process, even tho some of it is..
Sent from my MB865 using xda app-developers app
jfrank1485 said:
Hi everyone! I aware that maybe this is a stupid question, but i have to ask...Is there a way to convert a CWM backup to a flash zip to use with the CWM install zip option??? I'm asking this because I have a particular problem and is that I can't do backups or restore with my CWM so i can't install almost any custom rom that is in the developers forum.
I don't know why i have this problem, even I posted a thread asking for help about this, but I guess I'm the only one experiencing this issue and the only rom I successfully installed is the Victory Rom and is a flashing zip.
By the way I installed the CWM with the Atrix Bootstrap and I applied the patch RAZR-CWMOnBoot-Global-J.Y.Daddy.zip to have the CWM on every boot and I don't experience any GPS issue (I guess i don't know exactly what is the issue) and for the record when I'm trying to do a CWM backup i get the "check sum error" when the CWM tried to finish the backup process, and when i'm attemping to restore a backup the CWM starts without problem but then I get the "Error while restoring /system".
I hope you can helpme with this problem.
Thank's in advanced.
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I had experience this yesterday when restore using PhilZ v3.81 recovery in my Note 2.. Basically the folder name is critical.. It must remain same as per when the backup folder is created. Else u will got md5 checksum error, if bypass md5 check, than error in /system recovery part. After renam the backup folder to the orig name, the restore is running smooth...
machang said:
I had experience this yesterday when restore using PhilZ v3.81 recovery in my Note 2.. Basically the folder name is critical.. It must remain same as per when the backup folder is created. Else u will got md5 checksum error, if bypass md5 check, than error in /system recovery part. After renam the backup folder to the orig name, the restore is running smooth...
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all you need to do is use unyaffs on the system.img and optionally data.img and if will unarchive them, then back it into a zip with the boot.img and build the updater-script!
Hi out there! First should say im new on Android, and want to learn at least to a medium level user (flashing diferents ROMS, testing them, setting my phone how i like to, etc). Im now learning the basic vocabulary, looking and reserching about my android model and software. And the question is the next one:
I want to root my phone(SGS2/GT-I9100) by this method because i read the whole 44 pages of the thread and sounds safe, easy and all the people talks great about it (except one user that brick his phone ).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501719
And i have read too that the first thing you should do after rooting is an nandroid backup, so you can get to this point in a future if something doesn´t work rigth.
Usually the nandroid backups are made with CWM or Titanium backup. I would like to use CWM, and my question is:
When I follow below rooting guide, the CWM isn´t permanent no? it just used to flash de SU-Busybox. So should i download and install it to make the "holy" nandroid backup?? I found this other thread where is explained how to make this nandroid backup, with RM and then using CWM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592104
So after rooting, i should follow those steps no?( i mean, getting RM) Because my doubt is that the first CWM (the one i use for rooting) is the same i can use for de nandroid backup?? or this one its just to flash the SU intaller and i need to download and install it (CWM)? So i can follow both guides without any problem? im not doing the same thing 2 times no?
Thanks, and sorry for my english, it´s a little rusty... Im a noob and hate my self (xD), but want to learn
Edited: Wrong tittle before, now is right
1. 1st rooting isn't cause your phone damage
2. nandroid backup is usefull, if u wanna flash u'r phone to custom rom, if custom rom that u'r use isn't stable u can back to u'r rom earlier using back up rom from nandroid backup
3. nandroid backup is fitur over the CWM (permanent use)
i'm only use CWM for backup, Titanium Backup is used to backup u'r app+data only. to backup with CWM just enter CWM mode & then choose backup rom, then CWM will build folder backup to u'r sdcard, if anything happen with u'r rom just enter CWM mode & then restore the backup that've u made. it's simple
Hi, i have an issue restoring my Galaxy tab 10.1 gt-n8000 region switzerland... before flashing with a cm rom i did a backup with CWM 6.0.1.1, then after flash i could not see my backup in CWM... so i then found it with Astro file manager in : sdcard0/0/0/0/clockworkmod/backup.. (by the way what are all these 0?) so i could copy it to sdcard/0/clockworkmod... so that i could see it in CWM but when restoring it i get an error while restoring system... please help, i have searched this forum but did not find a suitable solution, i have seen that 4ext recovery could help, or by installing original stock rom but where can i find it`?
Another thing i just noticed, when i plug my tab on computer i have the message : windows cannot identify your device... is it bad?
Please help me, as you can understand i am a noob... with android.
Thanks in advance !
Bollecito
please help! anybody knowing that if there ara any ways to backup/restore the rom of my device via adb and without cmw installed?a nandroid backup i would meant
Tb-7014504e Stock 4.1.2 rooted , no cwm :'(
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