Hi, i am currently using syberia os latest version and is facing a lot of freezing issues. I have several multi authentication apps which is needed for official purposes and cant do a complete wipe of data! How can i install a new rom on top of it? Will a dirty flash of another custom rom will help it? What should be wiped inorder to avoid losing of apps/data of them mainly data inside MFA apps?
Adil22jaleel said:
Hi, i am currently using syberia os latest version and is facing a lot of freezing issues. I have several multi authentication apps which is needed for official purposes and cant do a complete wipe of data! How can i install a new rom on top of it? Will a dirty flash of another custom rom will help it? What should be wiped inorder to avoid losing of apps/data of them mainly data inside MFA apps?
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Can't you just backup your mfa? They usually have export options. If not, maybe apps like titanium backup.
Even dirty flashing on top of working roms is discouraged. Dirty flashing on top of a broken rom will probably leave you with a still broken rom
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Hi, I am currently running stock TouchWiz 4.1.2 ROM, using CWM Recovery, I tried to install the Pac-Man Rom, but after phone rebooted it kept hanging on the PAC-MAN image with the ghosts, phone hung there for a bit, tried to reboot "removed the battery", went back to CWM Recovery, reflashed the Pac-Pam ROM and latest gaps, rebooted phone and the same thing happened,at some point it wiped out my CWM recovery, so I got fed up and reinstalled the TouchWiz factory 4.1.2 image using ODIN, had to reload all my apps and what not.
I want to give this one more try, but do not want to go through all this trouble again. I did a casche wipe and devlick cache wipe, but no data/factory wipe "heard people had success with a dirty flash routine", do I need to do a factory/data wipe for this to work.
I am not new to flashing, but have not flashed a non stock ROM yet, kind of leary after the PAC-Man fiasco, by the way what do you guys think of Cynogenmod or AOKP. Do I have to wipe all my data every time I try a new ROM. Is there a stock, pure android JB 4.2.2 ROM out there. Thanks again.
You have to wipe data/factory reset before flashing. Two different bases. One heavily nodded framework to stock(ish) won't work. Also, if you use something like titanium backup, you don't have to worry about losing things as much.
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tylerlawhon said:
You have to wipe data/factory reset before flashing. Two different bases. One heavily nodded framework to stock(ish) won't work. Also, if you use something like titanium backup, you don't have to worry about losing things as much.
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So you are saying I can not flash this ROM do to it beign a 4.2.2 fro stock 4.1.2. So what ROM should I try before trying PAC-Man, I love PAC-Man
cybertec69 said:
So you are saying I can not flash this ROM do to it beign a 4.2.2 fro stock 4.1.2. So what ROM should I try before trying PAC-Man, I love PAC-Man
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He is saying do not dirty flash ROMs you MUST do a factory reset as none of these ROMs are the same. By dirty flashing you are flashing one ROM over another which is a boneheaded move as you are likely to be stuck on the bootloader. The ONLY time you should dirty flash is when you are flashing a newer version of the same ROM.
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He is saying do not dirty flash ROMs you MUST do a factory reset as none of these ROMs are the same. By dirty flashing you are flashing one ROM over another which is a boneheaded move as you are likely to be stuck on the bootloader. The ONLY time you should dirty flash is when you are flashing a newer version of the same ROM.
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Thank you sir, don't be angry at me, by the way it is much appreciated.
Basically. Don't dirty flash an aosp ROM over a touchwiz and vice versa
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Also don't dirty flash if the Android version is different.
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My advice is to do a clean flash every time, and also a full backup. Here's what I do -
- backup all apps using your choice of app - I use MyBackup, there's also Titanium, Rom Toolbox and many others
- backup all sms, call logs
- backup launcher settings
- nandroid backup
- factory reset, wipe system/boot
- make sure you don't wipe internal or external sd card
- update to latest radio or rpm if needed
- flash rom
- flash kernel if needed
- flash gapps
- setup new rom, don't let google restore apps
- install your backup app and launcher
- restore apps, sms, calls etc
- restore launcher and android system
once you get comfortable with this procedure it doesn't take long. And it guarantees a clean phone with the latest apps and new rom with no issues.
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My advice is to do a clean flash every time, and also a full backup. Here's what I do -
- backup all apps using your choice of app - I use MyBackup, there's also Titanium, Rom Toolbox and many others
- backup all sms, call logs
- backup launcher settings
- nandroid backup
- factory reset, wipe system/boot
- make sure you don't wipe internal or external sd card
- update to latest radio or rpm if needed
- flash rom
- flash kernel if needed
- flash gapps
- setup new rom, don't let google restore apps
- install your backup app and launcher
- restore apps, sms, calls etc
- restore launcher and android system
once you get comfortable with this procedure it doesn't take long. And it guarantees a clean phone with the latest apps and new rom with no issues.
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Ok everything went fine, installed the Pac-Man ROM 4.2.2. seems much smoother and faster, my first question is how do I enable car mode where all my text messages are spoken out when received, including phone calls, my other question is now my screen is more cluttered by the on screen buttons at the bottom, the back home and systems button. The full clean wipe did help, thanks again.
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Hello everyone,
Currently, i'm using the 'HyperSensation' ROM which is based on CM 9. But now, i want to update to CM 10.1, and the only way i see to do this is to flash the original CM 10.1.
As known, if you update your ROM, it's possible without wipeing / loosing data.
But now, if i "update" to the original CM, is this possible without wipeing?
Greets Levin27
HyperSensation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610209
As it's a different base you should't flash CM10.1 over ICS
Just use titanium backup and Sms backup app then Do a wipe All except SD card in recovery and flash ROM & Gapps and PROFIT !!
xeloni said:
As it's a different base you should't flash CM10.1 over ICS
Just use titanium backup and Sms backup app then Do a wipe All except SD card in recovery and flash ROM & Gapps and PROFIT !!
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I don't know how this ROM is based, but since both are based upon CM (well, CM is CM, not based upon), This might be possible.
However, since you (might) want to flash CM10, it's advised to wipe. You can back up your apps and data with Titanium Backup.
Thank you 2, the tipp with Titanium Backup was worth it.
Glad it worked for you
Sorry, I recently posted this in the wrong section. Mods feel free to move/ erase as you see fit.
I am needing advice with backing up my Cyanogenmod 11 stuff. How do you guys do your backups, enabling you to flash a newer version etc and not lose your data and setup preferences?
I flashed CM11-0303 (and appropriate kernel), then did un update to 0307 and re-flashed the kernel again. This causes major issues and I had to reflash 0303 again from scratch. I was going to only start updating with official CM updates but apparently you can't install an official release update over a nightly install. Is this true?
Thanks, my phone is an S4 i9500. Hope you guys can help because I now want to reflash a new official release without losing my data and setup preferences :good:
Do you guys backup within the system recovery? Do you backup to your phones internal storage or to the SD card? I am using PhilZ Touch 6.19.2.
Thanks
I am running CM-11 Stable version, which means I am rooted as well as custom recovery. If I update my ROM, will I loose any of my application's data?
e.g. if I upgrade to CM-11 Nightly, will be there any loss of data. Or if I want to install some different ROM's will there be any loss of data.
Is it possible to switch back to Stock ROM (Rooted) without loss of data.
Actually managing phone's data is big pain once you reinstall whole OS, So I am really doubtful here.
anshumangoyal said:
I am running CM-11 Stable version, which means I am rooted as well as custom recovery. If I update my ROM, will I loose any of my application's data?
e.g. if I upgrade to CM-11 Nightly, will be there any loss of data. Or if I want to install some different ROM's will there be any loss of data.
Is it possible to switch back to Stock ROM (Rooted) without loss of data.
Actually managing phone's data is big pain once you reinstall whole OS, So I am really doubtful here.
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Do you mean with data your storage or your apps, settings? If you install a new rom you always need to wipe data (that is not your internal storage). If you update you only need to wipe cache and dalvik. You can backup apps easily with titanium backup for example
You should always nandroid backup before flashing roms and always keep a local copy of a titaniun backup.
Flashing custom roms dont wipe data. However, you may have to wipe data yourself to get it to boot.
Rule of thumb is:
Upgrading to a new version of the SAME custom ROM, no need to wipe. If you then find something doesnt work, wipe
Changing to a NEW rom, wipe.
This is all covered in the sticky threads. Please click the link in my signature and read the info threads.
I'm on a custom rom for redmi note 7 pro.
The rom has got great options with tons of settings to tweaks to every element.
I keep fiddling with my phone/rom by doing something or other.
What I want to know is can I simply take backup of the precious settings I had made to various elements of the phones using TWRP and restore it back after a full re-flash of the rom instead of again going through the pain of customizing/manually doing every tiny setting?
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I'm on a custom rom for redmi note 7 pro.
The rom has got great options with tons of settings to tweaks to every element.
I keep fiddling with my phone/rom by doing something or other.
What I want to know is can I simply take backup of the precious settings I had made to various elements of the phones using TWRP and restore it back after a full re-flash of the rom instead of again going through the pain of customizing/manually doing every tiny setting?
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Typically, trying to backup system data and system settings in one ROM then restore them in a new ROM doesn't work. ROMs don't like system data from other ROMs because it creates conflicts due to the ROMs not having the same setups or the same set of system settings, one ROM might have settings that the other doesn't, which is where the conflicts come from.
If the ROM you are flashing is an update to a ROM that you already have installed(i.e. if you have LOS 9.0 from March installed but you want to flash the newest build of LOS 9.0) you don't necessarily need to make a backup of your settings or restore them after flashing the new ROM. You can just flash the new ROM update without factory resetting and without wiping cache and dalvik, this is called a "dirty flash". Everything will be the same as it was after you flash the updated ROM.
This doesn't work if you are going from stock to LOS though, or from LOS 9.0 to Resurrection Remix, for example. It only works if the ROM you are flashing is a newer or older version of your ROM than the version you already have. In other words, you can flash LOS over LOS or Resurrection Remix over Resurrection Remix without wiping, but not LOS over Resurrection Remix or Resurrection Remix over LOS. In these scenarios, you will have to wipe, then flash the new ROM and manually set everything back up the way you want it.
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Typically, trying to backup system data and system settings in one ROM then restore them in a new ROM doesn't work. ROMs don't like system data from other ROMs because it creates conflicts due to the ROMs not having the same setups or the same set of system settings, one ROM might have settings that the other doesn't, which is where the conflicts come from.
If the ROM you are flashing is an update to a ROM that you already have installed(i.e. if you have LOS 9.0 from March installed but you want to flash the newest build of LOS 9.0) you don't necessarily need to make a backup of your settings or restore them after flashing the new ROM. You can just flash the new ROM update without factory resetting and without wiping cache and dalvik, this is called a "dirty flash". Everything will be the same as it was after you flash the updated ROM.
This doesn't work if you are going from stock to LOS though, or from LOS 9.0 to Resurrection Remix, for example. It only works if the ROM you are flashing is a newer or older version of your ROM than the version you already have. In other words, you can flash LOS over LOS or Resurrection Remix over Resurrection Remix without wiping, but not LOS over Resurrection Remix or Resurrection Remix over LOS. In these scenarios, you will have to wipe, then flash the new ROM and manually set everything back up the way you want it.
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One hell of an explanation!
I know Nandroid backups aren't cross compatible due to the obvious nature or various roms.
I will be just doing nandroid backup for system data and system settings just for one rom and will restore the same on same rom if anything goes messy.
nri_tech1183 said:
One hell of an explanation!
I know Nandroid backups aren't cross compatible due to the obvious nature or various roms.
I will be just doing nandroid backup for system data and system settings just for one rom and will restore the same on same rom if anything goes messy.
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Yes, that should work.
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nri_tech1183 said:
One hell of an explanation!
I know Nandroid backups aren't cross compatible due to the obvious nature or various roms.
I will be just doing nandroid backup for system data and system settings just for one rom and will restore the same on same rom if anything goes messy.
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It doesn't just apply to nandroid backups. What I posted is true even when using something like Titanium Backup or even adb backup, nothing system related can be backed up then restored in an OS that is different. Only user data and user related stuff can be backed up and restored across ROMs, but even that doesn't work 100% of the time.
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