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First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
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Dave
my handbreak video displays fine! Try it in rockplayer, not the original stock player and it will strech to aspect properly
The Transformer's aspect ratio is 1280x800px; the standard 16:9 widescreen videos will probably encode (or expand) to 1280x720px - which will leave 40 pixels of unused space (your black bars) at the top and bottom of your screen.
Many players allow you to stretch videos to fill the entire screen (moboPlayer allows this).
Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
daverod said:
First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave
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Depends on the movies. Some movies are 16:9 or (1.78), will others are Cinema Scope (2.35). The 2.35 will always have black bars, even on wide screen. Read the packaging, it should give you the aspect ratio. They are ultra wide. Personally I wish Hollywood would dump 2.35, but it appears to be the trending thing to do. Frankly, I just think they do it to give you a reason to go to a theater.
FYI: It appears the that Automatic crop doesn't work, at least on Blu-Ray mkvs.
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Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
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Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
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turbulent28 said:
Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
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You can stretch it but everything will look very tall and thin - If you like your movies about NBA basketball players that might be fun.
You can crop and then expand the frame but this will lose quality as you are essentially zooming in -- parts on the outside of the frame will be lost.
The black bars are not the fault of the device, they're the fault of the movie industry.
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i made some photo's in 3d on the o3d, but in gallery they wont show fullscreen. how can i fix this? i ofcource want to view the 3d on the full screen size.
What do you mean by not full screen? Pictures are taken in a 4:3 aspect ratio so you will always have black bars on the sides.
bioweb said:
What do you mean by not full screen? Pictures are taken in a 4:3 aspect ratio so you will always have black bars on the sides.
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Is there a way to change that aspect ratio then?
I dont know a way either, but i think it is ennoying and i would appreciate a solution as well!
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Can you explain whats the problem?
You will always have black bar on sides since the photos are cinverged to give stereoscopic 3d effect.
we stil do not have 3d steroscopic viewers in android market and until that happens we cant see the full screen you want.
Ofcourse O3D does not support portrait 3d.
However even if you take 2d photos they will have black bars on sides. So this is a viewer issue.
yahya.hamid said:
Can you explain whats the problem?
You will always have black bar on sides since the photos are cinverged to give stereoscopic 3d effect.
we stil do not have 3d steroscopic viewers in android market and until that happens we cant see the full screen you want.
Ofcourse O3D does not support portrait 3d.
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Ofcource? On the evo 3d portrait 3d works...although its not the greatest way.
And the black bars are not required for the 3d effect. I think its the camera app that does something with the photos made...wich makes it with black bars in the gallery.
Hmm.. I downloaded stereoscopic gallery from market. Has many options. Choose lg real 3d and it shows the pics with same effect. black bars.
Its the ratio factor of the camera.
photos are 4:3, the screen is nearer 16:9, the black bars are meant to be there, if they weren't you would have some of the picture cropped off from the top and bottom and it would be a lower resolution
I for one do not want this. Keep it as it is!
mmace said:
photos are 4:3, the screen is nearer 16:9, the black bars are meant to be there, if they weren't you would have some of the picture cropped off from the top and bottom and it would be a lower resolution
I for one do not want this. Keep it as it is!
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i dont understand...the evo 3d makes photo's with less megapixels and they fill the complete screen and resolution....
at least it could be modified so the image is zoomed in a bit?
i do not want those black bars even if the photo quality goes back a bit.
The aspect ratio is more relevant than the resolution. Photo's are taken in a standard 4:3 aspect ratio for printing purposes. Hell, if you take pictures in the native screen resolution they would be 16:9 and thus fullscreen but would only be 0.4 megapixel. The Evo3D either takes photo's in a 16:9 aspect ratio or crops pictures to fit the entire screen.
Since you can't change the aspect ratio and you can't zoom in the gallery your only options would be to find an app with which you can crop pictures on your phone or transfer them to your pc, crop them in something like Photoshop and put them back on your phone. You can use the built in image editor but the problem is you can't specify an exact ratio so you have to crop by sight which can be a bit tedious. Once you got the right spots though it's not that hard.
Take a picture, then choose Edit (Bewerken, bottom option in the left menu). When you're in the editor you choose Edit (Bewerk) again from the left menu (top option) and then pick the Choose (Kies) option (left option). Now you have a rectangle in the center of the image. Stretch the rectangle to fit the entire picture by touching a line and dragging it in the right direction. Then you take the top of the rectangle and drag it down five steps. Do the same with the bottom but drag it only four steps. Then choose Crop (Bijsnijden) from the right menu (middle option) and save the image. You should now have a perfect fullscreen image.
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The aspect ratio is more relevant than the resolution. Photo's are taken in a standard 4:3 aspect ratio for printing purposes. Hell, if you take pictures in the native screen resolution they would be 16:9 and thus fullscreen but would only be 0.4 megapixel. The Evo3D either takes photo's in a 16:9 aspect ratio or crops pictures to fit the entire screen.
Since you can't change the aspect ratio and you can't zoom in the gallery your only options would be to find an app with which you can crop pictures on your phone or transfer them to your pc, crop them in something like Photoshop and put them back on your phone. You can use the built in image editor but the problem is you can't specify an exact ratio so you have to crop by sight which can be a bit tedious. Once you got the right spots though it's not that hard.
Take a picture, then choose Edit (Bewerken, bottom option in the left menu). When you're in the editor you choose Edit (Bewerk) again from the left menu (top option) and then pick the Choose (Kies) option (left option). Now you have a rectangle in the center of the image. Stretch the rectangle to fit the entire picture by touching a line and dragging it in the right direction. Then you take the top of the rectangle and drag it down five steps. Do the same with the bottom but drag it only four steps. Then choose Crop (Bijsnijden) from the right menu (middle option) and save the image. You should now have a perfect fullscreen image.
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The image viewer is the real problem for watching 3D images. I have saved the 3D images as jpg in my computer and edited with photoshop increasing the height of the image to suite 16:9 resolution. To be precise the resolution I kept for the edited image was 4096 x 2304 and saved the image as jpg file again. Now when I watched the image in 3DTV (LG cinema 3D 47")it was perfectly filling the screen with good clarity as a side by side format. I opted the 3D option for side by side format. The 3D experience for the image was really nice with a full screen one 3d image. Now I tried to watch it with my handset Optimus3D. There when I opted for 3d side by side format, the instrument combined bothe left and right side images to a single images keeping 2 broad black borders on both the side. Now with the experiment I find that the 3d image viewing programme in the handset is not properley done for watching full screen mode. Camera is not at all a problem. I think LG will have to look in to this for rectifying the same in the forthcoming firmware updates...
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That's strange. When I crop the images on the phone to the same resolution as you they're displayed fullscreen in the image viewer.
What happens when you change the extension back to jps?
So, on a whim I googled CM10 16:9 camera and found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901917
I was expecting either camera doesn't work at all, or it would work with 16:9. I took the gallery2.apk and put it on my One S. Camera and gallery still worked but no 16:9 resolution
Maybe someone more capable than me can get 16:9 camera resolution on our One S
The CM10 camera already records in 16:9, but since the grey bar on the right takes up some of the screen real estate, there are black bars on the top and bottom. In fact, you will want to record in 4:3 so that those black bars are gone. Or you can try and make the grey bar on the right transparent somehow.
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The CM10 camera already records in 16:9, but since the grey bar on the right takes up some of the screen real estate, there are black bars on the top and bottom. In fact, you will want to record in 4:3 so that those black bars are gone. Or you can try and make the grey bar on the right transparent somehow.
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I was referring to taking pictures, not recording video. I don't mind the black bar because ultimately you end up with fullscreen 16:9 during playback. I guess something that would be relevant is whether the camera sensor is more suitable for 16:9 or 4:3 at 8MP? I don't know the answer to that.
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I was referring to taking pictures, not recording video. I don't mind the black bar because ultimately you end up with fullscreen 16:9 during playback. I guess something that would be relevant is whether the camera sensor is more suitable for 16:9 or 4:3 at 8MP? I don't know the answer to that.
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The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
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The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
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Thanks for the answer! I never noticed that the Sense camera only took 6 MP pictures. Talk about HTC screw ups after screw ups.
I guess at this point it doesn't really matter to me, though I can still see a desire for 16:9 photos just because they fill the display. I wouldn't mind having a 6 MP 16:9 mode.
There is a HD1080 option in camera settings if your looking for pictures to take up full screen in gallery.
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The Camera sensor is 4x3 so it just crops the top and bottom for 16x9 giving about 6MP, we could easily add this resolution to the camera if people want.
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That's exactly what I meant, just spoke about recording instead of images oops
Some fix for the exaggerated lateral margins that it makes in the videos to the screens of YouTube, Netflix, etc.? You can zoom and fill the screen but the video in its original format, has an excessive crop.
In other Xiaomi devices this does not happen.
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Some fix for the exaggerated lateral margins that it makes in the videos to the screens of YouTube, Netflix, etc.? You can zoom and fill the screen but the video in its original format, has an excessive crop.
In other Xiaomi devices this does not happen.
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First of all, I am pretty sure you posted in the wrong category. This should got to Questions & Answers.
Did you ever play GameBoy Color games on the GameBoy Advance?
If yes, you noticed, that all the games had black margins, except you were resizing the image with the L/R button.
The reason for that is that what is being displayed does not match the resolution of the screen. So if your video is 480*240p then it will have margins on a Full HD or 2k display.
Same goes for any device, like your phone. Previous phones did not have margins, because they probably had a screen resolution of precisely 1920x1080p. So most videos will fit perfectly, because that is a very common resolution for videos.
Now the POCO has a higher resolution: 1080 x 2400, which is not perfectly standard. Your video is guaranteed to not have this resolution, as can be seen from the screenshot. So of course there will be black margins. The only way to "remove" the margins would be to resize your video or get an older phone with a resolution of exactly Full HD.
Conclusively, that's not an issue with your phone or whatever. It's an issue regarding different resolutions, which happens to EVERY device on earth that has a display measured in pixels.
Although they are related it's more of the aspect ratio thing than resolution. Common aspect ratio for content on platforms OP has mentioned is 16:9 where our poco has 20:9 screen. 16:9 was the most popular on mobile devices before the "bezel less" era and still is the most popular for TV.
Try to do the pinch outwards gesture to stretch the video to full screen?
Use the Video Toolbox?
I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
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I bought a new phone (iqoo 7) after 3 years. I am not sure if this is an android issue/feature or a phone specific issue. I can't help but notice that while playing videos on twitch, prime, youtube etc. the display doesn't use the entire screen space. A significant part of both the edges is blank and it really bothers me and is not a very good experience while watching a video. If i pinch out and zoom the video to fit to the screen then it because it is zoomed, some parts/edges of the video can't be seen. I am not up to date with mobiles however i used android 8.0 in my previous phone and was always able to use the full screen while watching videos.
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Try to pinch in with your fingers.
svetius said:
Try to pinch in with your fingers.
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
Echoslam said:
As i mentioned, when i try to pinch in i lose some part of the video. As you can see in the attached screenshots. In this particular case after pinching the scoreboard disappears. Is there any way to be able to use entire screen with the help of an app/setting ?
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This happens with 2 different features
The one you're talking about is called fill screen and is specific per app and now a days specific to OEM which app they add in their OS release
The one you have right now is called stretch. It crops the area to fill the screen.
These both things occur differently as per phone as well since some phone screen ratios are 4:3, some have 16:9 and when any video is recorded it varies between these resolutions.
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4:3 is unknown of now. Did it ever exist? Idk. 16:9 is out there, but not with newer devices. Most common now for screen ratios is 18:9 and my Pixel 5 is 19.5:9.
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Yeah this is kind of a bummer since now a days companies are using different ratios cos of the notch or camera bump.
But this video resolution strictly depends upon the app that you are using to stretch the video.
I prefer mx player in this matter. Try it once if you'd like, it has both options.