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What is the general consensus on what is the best format for playing audio files on Android phones? File size, battery-life and audio quality are all factors where a compromise that has to be made somewhere I imagine, so which format gives the best balance between those three?
I'd say go for 320kbps mp3s. Everything more than that is probably just a waste on phone hardware anyway, even tho there are some (rare) exceptions.
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Just looked this up a bit more and found out this about my phone (Samsung Galaxy S3)
"100dB SNR Class W Headphone amp output" If that's a proper 100dB then I think I might have to look at dropping FLAC files on to this mother-trucker.
that's just marketing speak when used on such devices, something you need to be careful about is the cleaver use of cut offs, you can make it 100db SNR on a blank file (often how its measured) by having it cut off all audio
If you have zero noise music file at standard volume id be Impressed, if you have a music that's so clean that you can crank it up to 100dB before noise and distortion is introduced id be speechless. So if noise is in the original input it will be output as well
Fact is, unless you crank up music to room size functions you wouldn't notice the difference between a 320bps mp3 and lossless wav
Ahhh there we go. No FLAC on my mobile for me in that case. Thanks for the help.
320kbps mp3 is best for me
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Ahhh there we go. No FLAC on my mobile for me in that case. Thanks for the help.
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No prob mate
Audio files of 320 kbps preferably mp3 would be real good.
192k is already a good quality but the best is 320k
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192k is already a good quality but the best is 320k
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Yeah.... the best is 320 KBps
Got my Z3 Saturday and love it so far, though I did have to exchange it within a few hours as the camera wouldn't focus at all.
Anyway coming from the HTC One m8 the output volume is quite low, I used to have the m8 at about 75% because anything louder would be deafening! This seems the same output volume of the Z1, on my commute to work in have to have this at 90/100% to drain out the sound of the train, I'm somewhat a bit disappointed.
I use Spotify and download my playlists at extreme (320kbps) and I've been tempted to try Sony Music Unlimited as it supports the High Res audio which the Z3 supports, however cannot find anything online about this high res audio support.
Does anyone know of any links?
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Keep in mind it's waterproof and dustproof. They need to seal it far more then Htc on M8.
Some sacrifice must be made, that ls why it's "low" for you
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Keep in mind it's waterproof and dustproof. They need to seal it far more then Htc on M8.
Some sacrifice must be made, that ls why it's "low" for you
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You make a fair point.
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I use Spotify and download my playlists at extreme (320kbps) and I've been tempted to try Sony Music Unlimited as it supports the High Res audio which the Z3 supports, however cannot find anything online about this high res audio support.
Does anyone know of any links?
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The high res audio support is USB audio out. This means that the output signal is digital and in order to make use of it you would need an external USB DAC/amp in conjunction with a USB OTG cable. I've been using such a combination on my Galaxy S3 for years now (I use the HRT Microstreamer). Of course, you'd also need a high end set of headphones that are capable of resolving the higher quality signal.
Various high res music file formats are also supported, including DSD, FLAC, WAV, ALAC.
Clarification: high res audio is the ability to read the high res audio file format as well as the ability to output a 24bit/96kHz (or higher) signal. For the former, the Z3 should be able to output via the headphone socket. For the latter you'll need the USB DAC.
The dsee near high res upscale is found in headphone options, high res over usb is a different menu altogether. It takes mp3's etc, upscales them and outputs over headphone.
Dsee is only an option when using Walkman.
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The high res audio support is USB audio out. This means that the output signal is digital and in order to make use of it you would need an external USB DAC/amp in conjunction with a USB OTG cable. I've been using such a combination on my Galaxy S3 for years now (I use the HRT Microstreamer). Of course, you'd also need a high end set of headphones that are capable of resolving the higher quality signal.
Various high res music file formats are also supported, including DSD, FLAC, WAV, ALAC.
Clarification: high res audio is the ability to read the high res audio file format as well as the ability to output a 24bit/96kHz (or higher) signal. For the former, the Z3 should be able to output via the headphone socket. For the latter you'll need the USB DAC.
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Thanks for that explanation.
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The dsee near high res upscale is found in headphone options, high res over usb is a different menu altogether. It takes mp3's etc, upscales them and outputs over headphone.
Dsee is only an option when using Walkman.
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I cannot see the option you speak of, I have looked in the Headphones option but no option for HSEE. I have been told by a Sony rep that the HSEE also works with the Sony Unlimited Music app.
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I cannot see the option you speak of, I have looked in the Headphones option but no option for HSEE. I have been told by a Sony rep that the HSEE also works with the Sony Unlimited Music app.
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Maverick,
I think you're referring to DSEE HX. It's upscales mp3s (lossy music files) using a special algorithm in the same basic way a blu-ray player upscales old DVDs from standard definition (480p) to high definition (1080p). Per Sony's official video mentioning it and corallus' post, you have to go through the WALKMAN app's settings, not the phone's sound settings, in order to reach the DSEE HX option. I think it's really stupid of Sony to put it there instead of in the phone's sound settings because then you're limited to using only the Walkman app if you want to have upscaling (which might've been intentional actually).
Here's the video to access it in the Walkman app on the Xperia Z3 phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjRAQ6AlmII
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So here's my dilemma......... I am a big fan of PowerAmp. But the one thing PowerAmp doesn't do is upscale mp3s the way the Harman/Kardon mod for the HTC One M8 or DSEE HX on the Z3 does. But now it's known that on the Z3, if you want to upscale mp3s, you apparently have to use the Walkman app b/c THAT is where the DSEE HX upscaling option is (stupidly) located. I dunno why Sony didn't just put it in the phone's sound settings itself.
So how do I get around this? Are there other music playing apps that also upscale as well as the H/K and the Walkman apps do? Are there any good apps I can download that upscale mp3s? How good is the Walkman app compared to PowerAmp? I checked and the Walkman app apparently only has a 4-band EQ vs PowerAmp's 10-band EQ, which worries me. lol
Any suggestions or solutions to this dilemma are extremely welcome!
RockStar2005
Iam coming from a htc one and this undoubtedly louder although when the volume is up full the sound is horrible, phone vibrates and the sound is very thin! Turn it down a bit and the sound quality is alot better and possibly still a little louder then the htc one! although i personally never found the htc one to be loud by any means,it just sounded nicer then most mobile phone audio
I felt this too, gonna try one of these, don't want to spend that much on a amp. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005HJWWW8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I cannot see the option you speak of, I have looked in the Headphones option but no option for HSEE. I have been told by a Sony rep that the HSEE also works with the Sony Unlimited Music app.
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Maverick,
I think you're referring to DSEE HX. It's upscales mp3s (lossy music files) using a special algorithm in the same basic way a blu-ray player upscales old DVDs from standard definition (480p) to high definition (1080p). Per Sony's official video mentioning it and corallus' post, you have to go through the WALKMAN app's settings, not the phone's sound settings, in order to reach the DSEE HX option. I think it's really stupid of Sony to put it there instead of in the phone's sound settings because then you're limited to using only the Walkman app if you want to have upscaling (which might've been intentional actually).
Here's the video to access it in the Walkman app on the Xperia Z3 phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjRAQ6AlmII
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So here's my dilemma......... I am a big fan of PowerAmp. But the one thing PowerAmp doesn't do is upscale mp3s the way the Harman/Kardon mod for the HTC One M8 or DSEE HX on the Z3 does. But now it's known that on the Z3, if you want to upscale mp3s, you apparently have to use the Walkman app b/c THAT is where the DSEE HX upscaling option is (stupidly) located. I dunno why Sony didn't just put it in the phone's sound settings itself.
So how do I get around this? Are there other music playing apps that also upscale as well as the H/K and the Walkman apps do? Are there any good apps I can download that upscale mp3s? How good is the Walkman app compared to PowerAmp? I checked and the Walkman app apparently only has a 4-band EQ vs PowerAmp's 10-band EQ, which worries me. lol
Any suggestions or solutions to this dilemma are extremely welcome!
RockStar2005
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I've found the setting now and thanks for the explanation too!
I believe this HSEE and High Res is not quite what I thought, but the Sony Rep explained to me that the HSEE also works with Music unlimited app, however I don't see an option like I do in the walkman app... If it does support it I'll switch from Spotify in a flash!
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I've found the setting now and thanks for the explanation too!
I believe this HSEE and High Res is not quite what I thought, but the Sony Rep explained to me that the HSEE also works with Music unlimited app, however I don't see an option like I do in the walkman app... If it does support it I'll switch from Spotify in a flash!
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YW Maverick!
Again, it's DSEE HX not HSEE.
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YW Maverick!
Again, it's DSEE HX not HSEE.
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Oh my! That'll be not having enough coffee today!
I've just found out how to get the music unlimited working with DSEE HX, you use it in the walkman app, can't believe I didn't think of that first. I'm going to try it tomorrow on my commute and see if it is worth it.
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I think Z3's headphone output is quiet worse than M8,and hi-res only works when your phone plug into a external dac such as pha-3
So I suggest you use M8 with headphone jack
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I think Z3's headphone output is quiet worse than M8,and hi-res only works when your phone plug into a external dac such as pha-3
So I suggest you use M8 with headphone jack
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I've heard various things, and one of the videos I saw showed that the Z3's headphone output was sometimes greater than the M8's too. You can always increase the pre-amp volume in like PowerAmp to raise the volume more if you need to.
That's only true on the pre-Z3 phones. They (from what I just read last night) were Hi-Res compatible, but unable to convert tracks to Hi-Res on their own. The Z3 however has a BUILT-IN Hi-Res converter, so there's no need for special Hi-Res headphones or hardware. The sound the earphones or headphones get from the Z3 will automatically be Hi-Res if the tracks themselves are of that quality.
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Use music unlimited via Walkman app to get the higher res audio stream
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You will still need high res headphones, most headphones output at a peak of 25-40k high res need 80k
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Hey corallus,
Oh really? Ok. So do the headphones have to actually SAY "Hi-Res" on them? Do you know of any good earphones/earbuds that can play Hi-Res content?
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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Hey corralus,
I was looking at some Hi-Res headphones/earphones, and I came across this one by Sony:
http://store.sony.com/hi-res-stereo-headphones-zid27-MDR10R//cat-27-catid-All-Headphones-Earbuds
It says under Specs that the max output for this pair is 40k Hz, but it also says that this pair is Hi-Res. I was just curious to see where you saw that said that you need 80k Hz to be considered Hi-Res? I have seen ones labeled Hi-Res that are 80k HZ too (http://store.sony.com/premium-hi-re...d27-MDR1R/cat-27-catid-All-Headphones-Earbuds), but Sony apparently considers 40k to be Hi-Res too.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
It's like hd tvs, hi res @ 40k is like 720i and at a push 720p, so not full HD
80k are closer to what most "true" hi res audio is sampled at, which is 96k up to 192k so 80k headphones are like 1080p, full HD
full acoustic headphones capable of close to 192k being like 4k tvs
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I think Z3's headphone output is quiet worse than M8,and hi-res only works when your phone plug into a external dac such as pha-3
So I suggest you use M8 with headphone jack
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Not true, the hi res audio amp is now built into the unit.
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It's like hd tvs, hi res @ 40k is like 720i and at a push 720p, so not full HD
80k are closer to what most "true" hi res audio is sampled at, which is 96k up to 192k so 80k headphones are like 1080p, full HD
full acoustic headphones capable of close to 192k being like 4k tvs
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Not true, the hi res audio amp is now built into the unit.
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corallus,
Ok thanks. But I'm wondering, will I be able to tell the difference b/t 40k & 80k? I listened to a couple videos on youtube that played those frequencies and once it went past 20k I couldn't hear anything. I think from what I've read that it's more about the bit rate (16 vs 24) and sampling rate (44.1 vs 96 or 192). Even when I see sites that sell Hi-Res FLAC files they don't even mention the frequency rate, but the last 2 are always mentioned. So are you basically saying they come as a "packaged deal" essentially?
Any suggestions on a good pair for around $200? I've been looking at Sonys, Sennheisers, and Bowers & Wilkins. The Sony ones actually do hit 80k (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009A6CZ30...olid=1A8RN6F641F1I&coliid=I8GCDERDPVO8F&psc=1) and are well-rated. The Sennheiser one is too (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042A8CW2...TF8&colid=1A8RN6F641F1I&coliid=I35QT7Z8LDB7EC), as is the Bowers & Wilkins one (http://www.amazon.com/Bowers-Wilkin...412735787&sr=1-1&keywords=bowers+&+wilkins+p3).
Thanks,
RockStar2005
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I agree. It's built-in so you just need a good pair of headphones to hear it. Good doesn't necessarily mean expensive either.
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corallus said:
It's like hd tvs, hi res @ 40k is like 720i and at a push 720p, so not full HD
80k are closer to what most "true" hi res audio is sampled at, which is 96k up to 192k so 80k headphones are like 1080p, full HD
full acoustic headphones capable of close to 192k being like 4k tvs
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Corallus,
So I downloaded some Hi-Res FLAC tracks from this site over the last couple days (www.hdtracks.com). So far I've listened to like the 1st Zeppelin (remastered) album on there which is a cool 24/96. I compared to my 320 kbps mp3 version of the same album. Even on my $30 V-Moda in-ear headphones, I could still hear a difference! So imagine what I'd hear on a $200 pair of headphones! lol Since my M8 has the Harman/Kardon mod on it, it was able to process the songs in Hi-Res just like the Z3 can. Songs were louder & less muddied up on the Hi-Res ones..... the vocals and instruments didn't sound like they were stepping over each other like on the mp3 versions of the same songs, but were more separate, distinct, & clear. I could hear lil things like guitar fills more clearly too, etc. The Hi-Res tracks aren't cheap, so I'm only buying albums of which I truly love. So thanks again for your input which helped me understand the Hi-Res option a lot better!
I recommend anyone who has or is planning on buying the Z3 to check out the site I just posted above in order to take advantage of the Hi-Res feature. (Make sure if you get anything that you set your format to "FLAC". Even though it's supposed to, PA can't play ALAC, that's only for iTunes. The other two are also lossless too but take up way more space, and these files are HUGE to begin with lol). Click on "Genres" to find what you like. They also have a free sampler too that you can download, but you may or may not really hear a difference until you download FLAC versions of songs you already have & then compare them like I did.
And yes, Walkman can play FLAC too.
RockStar2005
Well it says that it supports Hi-Fi audio. But how Hi-Fi is it? What DAC is inside? In particular, I would like to know how the sound quality is from the 3.5mm audio jack compared to Hi-Fi mode of LG v30, my current phone. I simply cannot get a phone that downgrades my audio experience, you know?
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Well it says that it supports Hi-Fi audio. But how Hi-Fi is it? What DAC is inside? In particular, I would like to know how the sound quality is from the 3.5mm audio jack compared to Hi-Fi mode of LG v30, my current phone. I simply cannot get a phone that downgrades my audio experience, you know?
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Go for htc u12 plus
It jas the same impressive sound like v30
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Go for htc u12 plus
It jas the same impressive sound like v30
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It doesn't even have 3.5 jack. HTC makes my heart hurt...
Anyone else?
You find your answer here :
http://eng.soomal.com/edoc/10100000237.htm
Cirrus Logic CS43199
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It doesn't even have 3.5 jack. HTC makes my heart hurt...
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Its mind blowing through wired headset. I have used Lg G4 and V20 (both had dac) , Nex's sound output is at par with them or maybe even more.
Noticed that Nex plays the hifi and dsd mode only if played in imusic app and with DSD format file....tried all other formats including FLAC but the DSD nor HIFI modes get enabled...
The V30 gets way louder, I have headphones that trigger the Quad DAC on the V30 and I used volume at 70%, on the nex I use it at 100% and still wish that it would go a bit louder, sound quality is about the same, but V30 is superior no doubt, I compare the DAC on the Nex with the Note 8 or S8.
Vivo has always excelled in the audio side. They implement it very well
Louder is not better always . Please understand. Unless your earphones don't need that much output then activating quad dac is no use. A quote from respectable audiophile member from head-fi who used to test a lots of phone
"Listening to nex s is sweeter mid than lg v30. NexS provides better Imaging and fuller soundstage. Nex S is warmer than lg v30 thus making music more natural. Nex S provides more bass detail while lg v30 focus on treble and character brighter."
If you have heavy or high impedance headphones only then quad dac makes a sense. Low impedance heavy headphones don't drive enough well on LG cos of not activating quad dac
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Louder is not better always . Please understand. Unless your earphones don't need that much output then activating quad dac is no use. A quote from respectable audiophile member from head-fi who used to test a lots of phone
"Listening to nex s is sweeter mid than lg v30. NexS provides better Imaging and fuller soundstage. Nex S is warmer than lg v30 thus making music more natural. Nex S provides more bass detail while lg v30 focus on treble and character brighter."
If you have heavy or high impedance headphones only then quad dac makes a sense. Low impedance heavy headphones don't drive enough well on LG cos of not activating quad dac
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Could you tell me some high impedance headphones will work great with my vivo nex ?
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Could you tell me some high impedance headphones will work great with my vivo nex ?
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Beyerdynamics DT 880 250ohms version, Sennheiser HD 600series(600,650) . It doesn't need to be always high impedance headphones. You should choose headphones according to your music taste. Even the most rated headphones doesn't always have high impedance but generally around 32-80ohms. So don't make impedance as a deciding factor for buying headphones. I know it because i was thinking same as you did now.
using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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Does it support hi fif dac?
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Does it support hi fif dac?
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I have not compared with V30, but I am an audiophile and my AKG 240STUDIO sounds amazing with these headphones I agree what someone else said its a balanced sound with focus on midrange, high end is just enough detailed, I really love this sound, it sound even better then My Mi MIX that sounded wonderful in headphones too. The reason why phones dont include headphone jack is just lazyness they dont want to put effort into the art of creating a good sound. **** wireless audio! and long live the headphone jack with its superior sound quality.
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using vivo next s with Beyerdynamics DT 990 pro 250ohms . sound great but use it with app named poweramp. it takes volume and quality to the next level( you can control gain in it and allmost everything)
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Honestly... to just a high ohm headphones with a smartphone is just stupid to me.... Beyerdynamics are known to be some of the most hard to drive headphones, they really need a good headphone amp to sound good, and that is little but too much to ask for a smartphone. I own the Beyerdynamics DT1350 they are more suitable for smasrtphone since its low ohm and more easy to drive, with higher ohm headphones you will hear more sound artifacts because they are hard to drive for a smartphone amp.
By the way, have you tried the app AIMP ? From what I knew this is the best sounding media player on android. And its free, feel free to compare them if you want in terms of sound quality.
and to use any kind of volume boost is a no no, then you just need a stronger amp.. for podcast etc you can use volume boost but not for music then you will just destroy the sound.
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I have not compared with V30, but I am an audiophile and my AKG 240STUDIO sounds amazing with these headphones I agree what someone else said its a balanced sound with focus on midrange, high end is just enough detailed, I really love this sound, it sound even better then My Mi MIX that sounded wonderful in headphones too. The reason why phones dont include headphone jack is just lazyness they dont want to put effort into the art of creating a good sound. **** wireless audio! and long live the headphone jack with its superior sound quality.
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Honestly... to just a high ohm headphones with a smartphone is just stupid to me.... Beyerdynamics are known to be some of the most hard to drive headphones, they really need a good headphone amp to sound good, and that is little but too much to ask for a smartphone. I own the Beyerdynamics DT1350 they are more suitable for smasrtphone since its low ohm and more easy to drive, with higher ohm headphones you will hear more sound artifacts because they are hard to drive for a smartphone amp.
By the way, have you tried the app AIMP ? From what I knew this is the best sounding media player on android. And its free, feel free to compare them if you want in terms of sound quality.
and to use any kind of volume boost is a no no, then you just need a stronger amp.. for podcast etc you can use volume boost but not for music then you will just destroy the sound.
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yea i know its better to have powerfull amp for them , I think I'll get some portable amp if i find some good one and no so expensive. i bought 250 ohm version beucase i use it with pc too, not only with phone. ok i try that app.
Does Nex's Amp need to be triggered like V30's?
Just a fast and easy question: does Nex's Amp need to be triggered in High Gain mode like the one on LG V30? Maybe using an adapter first and then plugging your headphones and playing music to enjoy it at the best it can gives. This is a well-know trick to trigger Hi Gain on LG and Meizu phones with dedicated DAC.
Please let me know
Which phone has a better LG v30 audio codec from Saber or VIVO Nex S Cirrus Logic?
a qualcuno può interessare https://www.evosmart.it/recensioni/...ex-s-potenza-sopita-scottante-sorpresa/18116/
I think the weakness of the amplifier is it output kind of low volume however, its still very clean even at 100% so other manufactures my get higher volume but probably not as clean..
Anyway it defintely would need more power, considering I use kind of easy to drive headphones AKG 240Studio the volume should be able to boost louder.
I would say it is not a problem with my headphones but if you get any more higher ohm headphones it wil not be enough jucie.
Can anyone confirm the codecs supported?
My HTC 11+ supported all, SBC, AAC, aptx, aptx-hd and Ldac.
I know the Nex supports aptx and Ldac but does it support AAC? I"m tempted by the Bose qc35s but not if I"m limited to SBC.
Any assistance appreciated.
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All I can say is that AAC is listed under developer options/bluetooth codecs.
When I am using the Bose Soundsport the chosen codec is the SBC and AptX for the Sennheiser Momentum.
Cheers
Has any of you had the chance to compare Vivo Nex S audio chipset to other great DAC's like for example... The Axon7?
How would you put it, headphone jack plugged, sound wise quality?
Thank you.
Haven't had the opportunity to compare with the axon 7 but have compared to Galaxy Note 9. With the HiFi turned on in the Vivo Nex settings and the adjustting the equalizer settings, the Vivo blows the Note 9 away. (using Bose qc35 plugged in by the way). Also... When using headphones that are plugged in, you have access to more audio settings that are not available when using headphones via Bluetooth.
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All I can say is that AAC is listed under developer options/bluetooth codecs.
When I am using the Bose Soundsport the chosen codec is the SBC and AptX for the Sennheiser Momentum.
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Thanks, I tested with a friends beats and my 66 Audio BTS and they both used SBC but used AAC on my HTC U11+.
Its a pity.
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Has any of you had the chance to compare Vivo Nex S audio chipset to other great DAC's like for example... The Axon7?
How would you put it, headphone jack plugged, sound wise quality?
Thank you.
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I'd put it comparable with the Axon 7 but behind the LG G6's quad dac.
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Thank you guys so much for the feedback!
That's exactly what I needed to know. ?
I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
Nihonno said:
I was always a huge proponent of LG's DACs. The ESS Sabre DAC gives manufacturers a lot of range when it comes to distinct sound signatures. I was always big on the Galaxy Notes up until my 7 was damn near ripped from my hands. lol. I remember the last time Samsung really focused on sound quality was (I believe) the Note 4 when they used a tuned Wolfson DAC.
With that said, USB-C audio is pretty new to me and I'm learning as I go. I bought two dongle DACs for my two cars. Sonata's HIDIZS for the Acura and the SpectraX (which uses a newer version of LG's ESS Sabre) for the Honda (aftermarket system). For around the house I use the packaged AKGs which seem to do a good enough job. On occasion I steal the HIDIZS dongle from the car and use my 1More Quad Drivers.
I recently subscribed to Amazon's new HD music service which I read can reach a ridiculous bit range (32bit @ UltraHD setting). So here comes my question considering the hardware I use;
Lets say you have a phone that is capable of X-output... does/can the dongle DAC supersede the capability of the phone? For instance, my HIDIZS dongle DAC is capable of 24bit/192KHz and respectively, the SpectraX is capable of 32bit/384KHz. If my source file (music) is compressed at that level, will the dongle DAC actually decode at that level, regarless of the phone's capability? Or is the phone a bottleneck?
With that said... do we have any information on the capabilities of the Note10?
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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If your dongle does work then its outputting at it whatever resolution it says on screen. there is no analog signal thru the usb c only digital. The conversion takes place at the dac, so whatever your dac's capabilities are, that is the max you can go. For what its worth, the audio is **** on the note 10's included akg's compared to the lg v40 or even the s9+ with the 3.5mm variant of the same akg's .the note 10's speakers are really good though. Do you use usb audio player pro? Its pretty good for hi res audio .though i don't think it supports prime music yet.
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Thanks for the clarification. I haven't used the USB audio player yet. I'm really enjoying Amazon Music HD. Some of the remastered u
UHD songs are good but some of the more recent UHD content like Chainsmokers' albums sound phenomenal. I'll check out the audio player to see how it works.