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After what I've read about Lollipop so far I'm getting kind of ambivalent about updating. Here are two of my concerns in regards to notifications:
1) Heads-up notifications. Apparently developers are the ones that are now in control of whether notifications are important enough to completely blot out a piece of the top of the screen, including the ability to access the notification tray, until the notification is handled. So whereas before I could remain completely immersed in whatever app and wait until I decide I'm ready to pull down the shade, now I am forcibly blocked from accessing part of the app and user interface until I first interact with the notification. As far as I can tell users are unable to do anything about this intrusion.
2) Silent mode - it sounds like a lot of users are really upset already about this screw-up. The old silent mode allowed alarms through which was just perfect for the use case of alarms. You go to bed and you want your phone to shut up completely until the alarm that is supposed to wake you up. Now apparently the only real silent mode also silences alarms. "Priority mode", the feature that is used for so-called quiet hours, still lets through all sorts of vibrations from apps that many users cannot sleep through.
Are these accurate descriptions of the current state of affairs in Lollipop? If so I think it'll drive me nuts and I won't be able to switch until I can take control of these flaws. And with Xposed unavailable for the foreseeable future it means having to figure out how else to hammer a broken OS into respecting the functionality that used to "just work". Does this bother anyone enough that they'll just avoid upgrading for now?
I don't think so at all, it takes some getting used to because the system is alot more iphone-Esq in nature but it definitely works well. There is alot of few features that just bring the whole system up to date, feels very very modern now. Like when you plug the phone into the charger it tells you how much time is remaining until the phone is full, for instance my phone says 47 minutes until full right now in the charger. It can predict how much battery life remains based on typical usage. Having notifications on the lock screen so you don't have to go through the lock screen and then the pull down menu to see whats going on is very convenient. As far as silent mode goes, there is plenty of settings that allow alarms and events to still work even though calls and messages are silent, I like how they ditched the stereotypical "vibrate" or "silent" modes and went with "all" priority and "none". There are always going to be people that are very resistant to change and claim that its awful, but I feel this was a much needed update to the android system.
Nonetheless if I'm given only the choice now between either intrusive or useless notifications, it's not very appealing.
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but you are given a choice
Spawne32 said:
but you are given a choice
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The choice I am looking for is:
1) Completely disable heads-up notifications and keep them all in the notification tray, because if I'm doing something on my device I damn well want to stay in what I'm doing instead of other apps getting to choose if they can block part of my screen.
Can I do this on Lollipop?
2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
Can't say I've noticed any vibrations from apps.
cmstlist said:
The choice I am looking for is:
1) Completely disable heads-up notifications and keep them all in the notification tray, because if I'm doing something on my device I damn well want to stay in what I'm doing instead of other apps getting to choose if they can block part of my screen.
Can I do this on Lollipop?
2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
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I use 'None' at night and it stops everything, as designed, but I've not tried an alarm as I have a clock for that. Turning on 'Priority' alerts, but turning calls/messages/Events off, should only allow alarms through but, again, I've not tried this.
As for notifications, I've been watching videos on YouTube full screen and the notification hasn't popped up unless I drag down to view the bar so doesn't seem to be an issue
Best thing to do? Back up your phone, flash 5.0 and if you don't like it go back to 4.4.4 and restore your backup
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2) At night, silence everything, *never* vibrate for anything ever, but allow alarms (and possibly voice calls) to ring.
Can priority mode do this?
From what I am reading, people are complaining that vibrate notifications are still leaking through in priority mode.
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THIS.
Audio management is just a pain in the ass. I got the same need, when I go sleep I don't want ANY sounds from the phone except wake up alarm and calls coming from a whitelist.
Actually this is not possible. If I set interruption mode, it doesn't silence any other sounds (eg: try to put the charger in and you'll hear the sound/vibration), and If I set the completely silent mode it doesn't allow interruptions.
I used to use a third party app named Nights Keeper, it was perfect running on KitKat, but now it is not on Lollipop, as it can't set the phone on totally silent mode except calls from whitelist.
Dunno if it's a bug or a "feature", the fact is that i'm not satisfied with this, and i can't "fix" it with 3rd party apps.
I always recommend that one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antonc.phone_schedule
Works like charm for the father of 2 year old - mute from 21 to 6:40 am, all alarms always on proper volume.
unster said:
I always recommend that one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.antonc.phone_schedule
Works like charm for the father of 2 year old - mute from 21 to 6:40 am, all alarms always on proper volume.
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does it work properly on Lollipop?
'cause this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nightskeeper&hl=en is supposed to do the same, but it actually doesn't works with L
I think so. Just tested it briefly and seems to work on me.
just to say that i've created a new Enhancement request here: if this means something for you here having the same needs of me, please partecipate.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79334&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
I've noticed some issues with notifications in lollipop aswell.
Most disturbing is that notifications just pop up as icon in the status bar, except the app is heads up supported (like hangouts) than you get the heads up notification of course.
Before you had at least something like a banner. Even if it was only one line, at least you knew from whom your eg. message or email was and the subject or the first words.
It's seriously just the icon now
That devs have to implement things like buttons or a textbox is obvious, but just the text???
Come on google...
In regards to that app - I have read that when pre Lollipop apps try to put the device into Silent mode, instead it goes into Priority mode. Including Tasker. This may explain observations noted upthread.
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With HeadsOff lollipop heads-up notifications can now be disabled!
No root needed.
You can also restore the ticker text in the statusbar!
Give it a try:
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Lollipop seems to be the worst update I've had in years. I was in the UK and suing the Vodafone network (a mistake in itself), and it kept hassling me to update. In the end I did, and the patch that followed. I am not at all happy. I am on 5.0, and not 5.1, but I have read that 5.1 does not fix much.
My main grips are:
No actual benefits?
Alerts are silly, especially with the lock screen. They have mad a mess of this.
Removal of the privacy mode, which is vital to me as I use the phone as an alarm (even in 5.1 you can't allow the alarm and stop calls etc AFAIK)
Email alerts all show blank and are not removed when viewing the mail unless you click on the (useless) notification itself.
Connections with my Gear 2 are lost, and it does not connect again. The Gear thinks it is, so refuses connections
Task list is awful. I struggle to pick out which app is which. The old was was far simpler.
No longer a media controller on the lock screen unless you have notifications set on.
Automatic brightness stuff up, and makes the screen flicker.
? Can't think of more now (but there are), these are the most annoying to me.
This weekend I'll be doing a factory reset and re-installing the available Kit-Kat here in Oz. I'll refuse Lollipop until all these issues are fixed, which probably means never.
• Yes. The actual benefit is that since the launch of Android it is the first iteration which changed the way Android works, by moving to ART from Dalvik. Now I don't know how much better is ART than Dalvik, so don't ask.
• Yes. I hate that too. You mean the persistent notifications on lock screen right? Well you gotta deal with that it seems. I have tried to find an app or an Xposed module, but I haven't found any. If you do find something then please let me know. And I am sure you know how to disable that bloody irritating Headsup notifications.
• I have never used Privacy mode of Samsung, but my phone is almost always on Silent. But I have noticed that the Do Not Disturb mode is reintroduced in last update, OF3. In any case we should be thankful to Samsung that they have brought back the actual Silent mode of KitKat. Shame Google.
• I use AquaMail, and I don't notice any problem at all.
• No idea, no wear units.
• Disagree with you. I really like the new task switcher. Yes, you need to be a bit picky, but not to any extent of causing any annoyance. Personal preference though.
• No idea! God work life is killing me, haven't listened to music in months!
• Yes, this is a really irritating issue, however for me the auto brightness doesn't increase, but decrease actually. And no the screen doesn't flicker, at least haven't noticed that so far on OF3.
• .............
If you were happy with KK, then simply switch back. At initial stage I was anger with Lollipop too, but mainly because of disappearance of Silent mode and then those damn notifications on lock screen, but as the former is solved now, and I simple love Light backgrounds than darkish ones, I can't think about moving back to KK. And now when Xposed is all but working I can't even think it
Best of luck.
you should have posted this on samsungs forum, not on a hacking forum that has no affiliation with samsung
If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
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If I disable Voice Match, Google Now disables everywhere unless I re-enable the Voice Match. Then saying "Hey Google" while the screen is locked and off triggers it.
I need the good old way of Google Assistant only working when I am on Home Screen, not when I am in any app, not when the phone is locked or screen is off, only when I am either on home screen or app drawer.
Any way to do it? Any magisk module or anything?
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I would love to know this as well as I have Google/Nest hubs in almost every room of my house and hate that it turns on my screen every time.
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Not all functionality is available when locked such as I can turn my WiFi connected lights on without unlocking but need to use the fingerprint scanner to interact with apps most apps.
It's funny that I wanted my previous OnePlus 5 to be able to do this particularly with AutoVoice Tasker scripts but now that I have this feature with my OP7Pro but I'm not so comfortable with the phone and potentially Google always being the fly on my wall.
Sorry but I've not spend any time trying to address the issue as you described as I'm still deciding if the convenience is worth the voluntary surveillance.
I regularly watch the Daily Pocket now YouTube show and have seen him toss his spying Amazon Echo as he hates that it listens and then inundates him with adds related to what he was talking about. At least Google has only done that after I've done web searches although I'm sure this is just a ticking clock from changing.
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That is one of my main concerns, apart from battery drain that'd be there with constantly on mic (though have heard that newer QC chips have minimized that drain), google will always be on the listening mode, no matter if the phone is locked and in the pocket.
And I know that not much could be done from the lock screen, but it's annoying, my phone was on the table, and I was discussing something with my friend. I might have said something that would have sounded like hey google, and suddenly I hear "Here are the search results". Picked up the phone to see that it picked up certain words from the conversation, and had searched for it. As we were in a quiet room and the media volume was full, it wasn't very pleasing to suddenly hear that.
My dudes, I'm looking for two things to ease my sanity.
1) I would love every single app on my phone to notify me once, and only once. I'm about to roundhouse kick my phone into the future because all my apps just bing bing bing all day. I need to hear when I get a new text message, but I do NOT need to hear 50 replies to a text message.
2) My phone needs to not make a noise when I'm talking on the phone. I don't care if my motion sensor is going off in my garage, I'll see it when I'm done talking.
Any recommendations? My google-fu is weak on this one. I'll buy anything or install any ROM I don't care. My blood pressure thanks you.
wait for notification to show and hold notification so it shows that certain app notification setting then from there just disable it
Hello, has anyone had problems with the watch notifications?
The problem I have is that the notifications do not appear on the clock screen, nor do they vibrate, nor do they sound; only until I swipe from bottom to top I see that there are notifications.
I already spoke to Huawei support and they ask me to activate special notification permissions that I cannot find in the settings.
I hope someone can help me.
Have you already attempted to enable any available permissions from the app details under Apps in Settings?
Hello, thank you very much for answering.
I have already managed to get the notifications to work for a few hours, but after a few hours the same thing happens again. I have activated all accesses of the Health application, such as access to notifications (In the menu "special access to apps"), permissions to contacts, phone, etc. The Health app is also out of battery optimization.
Huawei's support asks me to activate this:
Settings> Privacy> Management> Special app permissions> Notifications> Huawei Health.
I hope I have explained myself well.
If it consistently seems to work until the phone is idle for a couple hours, you should check all of the different settings for battery and background data throughout the phone and see if one of them is to blame. There are quite a few different settings for this, including some also in Developer Options if you enabled those.
Hi.
When it worked for a while and then no longer, it was the first thing I thought. Something is killing some service or task and that's why they stop coming. But it is nothing like that, the notifications do reach the clock, but it does not vibrate or sound. I already put the application without battery optimization, which starts automatically, blocked in tasks, application services the same. I can not think of anything else.
Thanks for the help.
After doing more research, I came to a huawei forum in Chinese and found the answer. The watch can detect that it is not being used, that you are not wearing it and tattoos can make the watch think that it is not being used. I have my entire left arm tattooed, change the wristwatch and it works perfectly. But I don't know how this leaves me a little unsatisfied, I don't know.
It doesn't have a way to disable that? Might want to suggest it to them. Usually features like that aren't hardcoded because such situations exist.
No, the GT2 series has a sensor dedicated specifically to that. I can only return it, change the hand to the one that is not tattooed or erase the tattoo.