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Alright, where do I start?
So I'm not really and expert on flashing stuff on Android. I was pretty comfy not rooting my phone for more than a year. TBH, I didn't really need it, because I was not a power user, but I've recently installed a root app called King User (King Root, etc.). Before you say anything... YES! I know it is the lazy way to do it. It made things easy for the very few apps I could not use without root permission. However, when I received the latest OTA (5.1.1. security update) I had to disable root authorization in order to install it. So I disabled it using the app's built in authorization setting.
The OTA update failed and gave me the error with the opened up android and the red exclamation mark. So I thought that the app messed something up. Disabling in house did nothing. Uninstalling it did nothing. So I decided to replace it with SuperSU using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/replace-kinguser-supersu-t2903003. I bet I'm not the only one who had problems after doing this. This, obviously, made things even worse. After SuperSU deleted KingUser and updated itself the phone remained stuck inside a bootloop. So I figured this replacement process messed up permissions.
Here is where it gets tricky, or rather stupid... My bootloader is locked and I have no custom recovery (because like I said, I just needed temporary root access for a couple of apps and wanted to avoid the hassle). When I enter Recovery mode in default fastboot it gives me the "No command" error (probably because of SuperSU permission). Now I don't even know if the phone is rooted or not. USB debugging was not enabled last time the phone was on and now I think I'm stuck in this point where nothing works without something else. I've been reading a couple of threads around here and elsewhere and I don't know what to do next... Doing a full recovery now would probably be asking for a lot, but right now, I would be happy if I could just do a factory reset or something...
Anyone?
val3nteen said:
Alright, where do I start?
So I'm not really and expert on flashing stuff on Android. I was pretty comfy not rooting my phone for more than a year. TBH, I didn't really need it, because I was not a power user, but I've recently installed a root app called King User (King Root, etc.). Before you say anything... YES! I know it is the lazy way to do it. It made things easy for the very few apps I could not use without root permission. However, when I received the latest OTA (5.1.1. security update) I had to disable root authorization in order to install it. So I disabled it using the app's built in authorization setting.
The OTA update failed and gave me the error with the opened up android and the red exclamation mark. So I thought that the app messed something up. Disabling in house did nothing. Uninstalling it did nothing. So I decided to replace it with SuperSU using this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/replace-kinguser-supersu-t2903003. I bet I'm not the only one who had problems after doing this. This, obviously, made things even worse. After SuperSU deleted KingUser and updated itself the phone remained stuck inside a bootloop. So I figured this replacement process messed up permissions.
Here is where it gets tricky, or rather stupid... My bootloader is locked and I have no custom recovery (because like I said, I just needed temporary root access for a couple of apps and wanted to avoid the hassle). When I enter Recovery mode in default fastboot it gives me the "No command" error (probably because of SuperSU permission). Now I don't even know if the phone is rooted or not. USB debugging was not enabled last time the phone was on and now I think I'm stuck in this point where nothing works without something else. I've been reading a couple of threads around here and elsewhere and I don't know what to do next... Doing a full recovery now would probably be asking for a lot, but right now, I would be happy if I could just do a factory reset or something...
Anyone?
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Start here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53439068. I'd return to stock and start all over, it will wipe your device, see the return to stock thread linked there. Then don't be lazy and read some more in the thread I linked you to. The n5 is one of the easiest devices to work with and you don't need kingroot, tool kits and junk like that
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You should flash TWRP custom recovery on your phone that way you can copy your personal data to your pc first, then you should flash the factory image
deelan_chan said:
You should flash TWRP custom recovery on your phone that way you can copy your personal data to your pc first, then you should flash the factory image
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Thanks, but that is not possible, as I have not enabled USB debugging before bootloop. I need to unlock the bootloader (wipe) to install TWRP and backup data.
Can you get into fastboot mode? You can flash twrp from there no USB debugging needed
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Problem is his bootloader is locked, so follow fastboot for unlocking bootloader and then clean install latest factory image. Also, flash twrp after everything is working (and relock bootloader if you want) so this does not happen again.
wangdaning said:
Problem is his bootloader is locked, so follow fastboot for unlocking bootloader and then clean install latest factory image. Also, flash twrp after everything is working (and relock bootloader if you want) so this does not happen again.
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Did just that. All fine now. However, I had to flash all .img files separately in fastboot (system, boot, cache, etc.), because adb was not working. Had some problems with the drivers. The device did not show up correctly within device manager. Fortunately, I did not loose anything. Had all my contacts and apps backed up with Google.
Thanks for all advice! I appreciate everyone's guidance.
val3nteen said:
Did just that. All fine now. However, I had to flash all .img files separately in fastboot (system, boot, cache, etc.), because adb was not working. Had some problems with the drivers. The device did not show up correctly within device manager. Fortunately, I did not loose anything. Had all my contacts and apps backed up with Google.
Thanks for all advice! I appreciate everyone's guidance.
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But it is so fun to use fastboot. I remember almost dunking my wife's G2 until I got it to fastboot. Pain in the butt, but the command prompt does not lie
Hello all,
I got my Oneplus6 recently, for the first time using android. I've had an old iPhone for forever.
I like the phone but I'm so far not really happy with the android version (Oreo).
For example: I pick the dark theme from the settings, and my notification tray will stay bright white. I really don't like this. Then I went ahead to try a couple of apps to dim the screen more than the default will allow (it's too bright for my taste). They worked fine, untill I pulled down the notification tray. The contrast feels like staring directly into the sun!
After learning that google now apparently blocks overlays on the notification tray, I figured my only option is to root. Also I would like to use a systemwide adblock and YT Vanced, and maybe some other cool (beginner friendly) things that require a root. However, I would very much like to keep basic functionality, mobile signal, using banking apps, and so on. I don't watch netflix or amazon, only youtube and sometimes twitch, so the L1 and L3 things are not something I worry about.
For the past 5 days or so I've been reading these forums, reddit, and researching the web for information about unlocking,rooting and so on. But I still have a couple of questions, hopefully you experienced users can help a noobie out! I really want to learn.
Currently on these forums, as far as I can see, there are ways of rooting with Magisk and (unofficial) TWRP, the latter also making a custom recovery.
Is this TWRP custom recovery something I need, when I want to keep using OxygenOS? Keep in mind I'm only really looking to apply a black theme on it all, including that blasted notification tray.
If I go with the Magisk root ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-magisk-root-oos-5-1-5-t3794440 ), do I still need a custom recovery? I think that is what TWRP is for. Say I want to remove my root and go back to factory default. Can I do that with the stock recovery?
Is it good to go with the guide I linked, or is it better to use the TWRP method described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3792643
What are the major differences between them?
Should I wait until an official TWRP is released and unlock/root then?
I'm sorry if these are very silly things to ask. Keep in mind I've only been using an android device for the first time, ever, since a couple of days. I'm okay with tinkering with it while following a guide to make sure I don't brick or anything. Also I've been looking for a complete beginner guide to unlocking and rooting, but all I can seem to find are very outdated guides.
Thank you for taking the time to read!
DampDeceiver said:
Hello all,
I got my Oneplus6 recently, for the first time using android. I've had an old iPhone for forever.
I like the phone but I'm so far not really happy with the android version (Oreo).
For example: I pick the dark theme from the settings, and my notification tray will stay bright white. I really don't like this. Then I went ahead to try a couple of apps to dim the screen more than the default will allow (it's too bright for my taste). They worked fine, untill I pulled down the notification tray. The contrast feels like staring directly into the sun!
After learning that google now apparently blocks overlays on the notification tray, I figured my only option is to root. Also I would like to use a systemwide adblock and YT Vanced, and maybe some other cool (beginner friendly) things that require a root. However, I would very much like to keep basic functionality, mobile signal, using banking apps, and so on. I don't watch netflix or amazon, only youtube and sometimes twitch, so the L1 and L3 things are not something I worry about.
For the past 5 days or so I've been reading these forums, reddit, and researching the web for information about unlocking,rooting and so on. But I still have a couple of questions, hopefully you experienced users can help a noobie out! I really want to learn.
Currently on these forums, as far as I can see, there are ways of rooting with Magisk and (unofficial) TWRP, the latter also making a custom recovery.
Is this TWRP custom recovery something I need, when I want to keep using OxygenOS? Keep in mind I'm only really looking to apply a black theme on it all, including that blasted notification tray.
If I go with the Magisk root ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-magisk-root-oos-5-1-5-t3794440 ), do I still need a custom recovery? I think that is what TWRP is for. Say I want to remove my root and go back to factory default. Can I do that with the stock recovery?
Is it good to go with the guide I linked, or is it better to use the TWRP method described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3792643
What are the major differences between them?
Should I wait until an official TWRP is released and unlock/root then?
I'm sorry if these are very silly things to ask. Keep in mind I've only been using an android device for the first time, ever, since a couple of days. I'm okay with tinkering with it while following a guide to make sure I don't brick or anything. Also I've been looking for a complete beginner guide to unlocking and rooting, but all I can seem to find are very outdated guides.
Thank you for taking the time to read!
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Look in the forums of how to unlock, root and install TWRP recovery. I actually enjoy system wide black themes so this is what I would recommend.
You need to unlock your bootloader if you had not done so already. In the forum I suggested, under the rooting section, you need to grab the bootable Magisk file. You will have to put your OP6 into fastboot mode and open up a command prompt and type- fastboot boot "name of img file" to boot using that img file.
All these instructions are in the forum regarding unlocking and rooting the device. If you are only interested in obtaining a system wide black theme while also keeping everything in good shape, you need to unlock your bootloader and root with Magisk. Do not worry about installing TWRP as you do not need this for your certain needs. After you root with Magisk, you can use an app call Adaway to block ads. To obtain a system wide black/dark theme, you need to go to the Google Play Store and download an app called "Substratum" after you obtain root. It will only work with root. Also download an app called "Swift Black". This is the theme you will be applying.
I would look at the forums again, the one I am talking about is up there at the top of the page when you look at the OP6 forums. It is clearly labeled for unlocking, rooting and installing TWRP recovery. You are only interested in unlocking your bootloader and installing Magisk, that's it. It has all the instructions you need. Once you are there, install the apps above from the Google Play Store and apply the theme using Substratum. Hope this helps!
DampDeceiver said:
Hello all,
I got my Oneplus6 recently, for the first time using android. I've had an old iPhone for forever.
I like the phone but I'm so far not really happy with the android version (Oreo).
For example: I pick the dark theme from the settings, and my notification tray will stay bright white. I really don't like this. Then I went ahead to try a couple of apps to dim the screen more than the default will allow (it's too bright for my taste). They worked fine, untill I pulled down the notification tray. The contrast feels like staring directly into the sun!
After learning that google now apparently blocks overlays on the notification tray, I figured my only option is to root. Also I would like to use a systemwide adblock and YT Vanced, and maybe some other cool (beginner friendly) things that require a root. However, I would very much like to keep basic functionality, mobile signal, using banking apps, and so on. I don't watch netflix or amazon, only youtube and sometimes twitch, so the L1 and L3 things are not something I worry about.
For the past 5 days or so I've been reading these forums, reddit, and researching the web for information about unlocking,rooting and so on. But I still have a couple of questions, hopefully you experienced users can help a noobie out! I really want to learn.
Currently on these forums, as far as I can see, there are ways of rooting with Magisk and (unofficial) TWRP, the latter also making a custom recovery.
Is this TWRP custom recovery something I need, when I want to keep using OxygenOS? Keep in mind I'm only really looking to apply a black theme on it all, including that blasted notification tray.
If I go with the Magisk root ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-magisk-root-oos-5-1-5-t3794440 ), do I still need a custom recovery? I think that is what TWRP is for. Say I want to remove my root and go back to factory default. Can I do that with the stock recovery?
Is it good to go with the guide I linked, or is it better to use the TWRP method described here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/oneplus-6-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3792643
What are the major differences between them?
Should I wait until an official TWRP is released and unlock/root then?
I'm sorry if these are very silly things to ask. Keep in mind I've only been using an android device for the first time, ever, since a couple of days. I'm okay with tinkering with it while following a guide to make sure I don't brick or anything. Also I've been looking for a complete beginner guide to unlocking and rooting, but all I can seem to find are very outdated guides.
Thank you for taking the time to read!
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you should totally root it!
This is how I did it!
Note u will break warranty, and unlocking bootloader will completely wipe ur phone(even the storage memory)
Download the following:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...ol-tool-one-driversunlocktwrpfactory-t3791316 (install this on computer)
and https://drive.google.com/open?id=15mXZz4OrwRGXz5JCKeYjwukQf0raWnOb
in your phone go to settings> about phone>Select "Build number" 4 times.
Then in Settings>Developer Options> turn on "OEM unlocking", "USB debugging" and for convenience "Advanced rooting".
Click reboot and Select "Bootloader"
Plug your phone to your computer and open the software you installed and click "check device" Then unlock, on your phone you will have to use volume buttons to go up and down and then the power button to select.
(Note, never relock with custom firmware or root on it, recommend u only lock it when 100% stock or u can permanently brick if something happens when ur rooted.)
Now on that software, you had click advanced options and click "Open a free terminal with adb and fastboot privileges".
Extract that zip file and move it to your desktop.
Type: cd "C:\Users\Bradley Gregory\Desktop" or if its in the folder: cd "C:\Users\Bradley Gregory\Desktop\All files for TWRP"
Then type: fastboot flash boot_a twrp.img , (Your using the same twrp.img)
Then again: fastboot flash boot_b twrp.img
After this look at your phone and use the volume buttons till it says recovery and press power button.
If it asks for a password type ur pin in from phone, and change language before pressing checkmark.
Then copy everything from that zip onto ur phone(when ur in the temporary recovery)
Then click install, find file location of where u put your stuff on. bottom right button click (img file) then click "boot.img" then select boot.
Now click the bottom right button to change back to zips.
Flash zips in this order
1. Flash TWRPWorkingInstaller.zip
2. Flash TWRP-BLUE-FIX.zip
3. Flash Root.zip or you will bootloop
after you can reboot your phone. Open magdisk app >settings and under update settings change update channel to beta. then you can go to the app home and install directly the new update.
(optional) in magisk select download and search busybox and click install
Hope this helps!
PM me for any questions!
(don't factory reset with custom boot. also in recovery, u can now make backups of your entire phone if error happens)
I recommend u download this file:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-6-t3796665
if u ever hard brick this will wipe ur phone and make it normal again(wipes internal memory)
Personally, I would hold off on doing anything until we have an official twrp and more development. Right now, the solutions we've got are unforgiving. People are bricking their phones right and left because they missed a step, and the unbricking process is more involved than other android phones at the moment.
Also, before you do anything, I would take a moment to assess your computer literacy and comfort with mucking around in the system files of your devices. If you're used to things that "just work" like on iOS, you may not like what you find once you cross over into modding. If you do enjoy that kind of stuff, good, but the tradeoff for greater freedom is more work in keeping your phone updated and operational.
Don't do it!! Hold off,. I am an old hat, since 2005, and I spent the whole day yesterday fixing the brick that I turned my OnePlus 6 into. It's a pain and very easy to do.
Just wait two weeks.
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Personally, I would hold off on doing anything until we have an official twrp and more development. Right now, the solutions we've got are unforgiving. People are bricking their phones right and left because they missed a step, and the unbricking process is more involved than other android phones at the moment.
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Agree. I've been rooting and modding devices (mostly Oneplus) the last couple of years, but with the OP6 things have changed. A/B partitioning have made it somehow more complicated, at least compared to what I'm used to.
Personally I pulled the trigger anyway, i.e. not waiting for an official version of TWRP. I got TWRP and root with the method described in post 70 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76633618&postcount=70
If and when you do that too I recommend you to install:
* Adaway (from XDA forum) to get rid of ads
* Substratum theme engine (from Play Store)
And then some Substratum themes:
* Ozone (from Play store) to theme Oneplus OS and apps
* Swift Black (from Play store) to theme other apps
And finally some Magisk modules:
* Youtube Vanced Magisk black themed (from Magisk repo) to get themed You tube, adfree and with picture-in-picture
* Viper4Android FX (from Magisk repo) to get much better audio
* OP_AlwaysOnDisplay_enabler (from OP5T XDA forum) to enable settings for Always On Display (if you want that)
https://www.xda-developers.com/enable-always-on-display-oneplus-6-oneplus-5-5t/
Is this TWRP custom recovery something I need, when I want to keep using OxygenOS? Keep in mind I'm only really looking to apply a black theme on it all, including that blasted notification tray.
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I strongly recommend you to use a custom recovery (TWRP) if you root and install rooted apps. If you don't it will be difficult or impossible to recover if you get in trouble. For example, it is easy to uninstall Magisk modules or Substratum themes from the recovery in case they cause bootloops. And additionaly you can make full backups of your system in TWRP. A small hint for backups is to copy them to a safe place (computer or USB stick) in case you get into trouble with the internal storage on your phone.
The A/B partitioning has definitely made things more complicated, especially with respect to flashing. I've been rooting and modding here for 5+ years, and I'm taking it very slowly so far. Right now, you can't just fix things with a quick reflash of your rom. Even factory resets can brick you. This is not a phone for noobs at the moment.
iElvis said:
The A/B partitioning has definitely made things more complicated, especially with respect to flashing. I've been rooting and modding here for 5+ years, and I'm taking it very slowly so far. Right now, you can't just fix things with a quick reflash of your rom. Even factory resets can brick you. This is not a phone for noobs at the moment.
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There is an unbrick tool and fastboot ROMs to recover, but u r right, u just can't screw around with things like we used to due to u need a computer avail even if u bootloop
That, and there are some conflicting instructions flying around and some disagreements amongst the devs about how to do things. I would not want to be starting out with rooting on this phone tbh.
I agree with most posts here.
I've been flashing ever since the HD2 back in the days. I've really spend alot of nights fixing my phones from hard/soft bricks, never actually really broke one though.
But untill there are some stable recovery/root methods, I wouldn't want to start my android rooting experience with this phone right now. As some said, wait a couple of weeks.
Thank you everyone for replying! You've been a great help.
I figure I will wait for the official TWRP and a guide to install it by that time.
Until then I'll keep a close eye on these forums to keep learning. Cheers!
All of these guys are spot on with advice. I too have been doing this for awhile, however this is my first A/B partition phone. You definitely want TWRP. I can't count how many times I've installed a root program or tweaked a system file and messed up my device. Recovery is your friend! Make backups often!! (Once you get TWRP installed of course)
I will wait for TWRP official for sure now, but one last question.
It is possible to unlock the bootloader (that wipes all my data) right now, and not root, right? So I will just unlock it for the future when TWRP official is released and I can root w/o losing all my data?
It's safe to follow a guide to just unlock the bootloader as of right now?
Thanks again! Very much appreciated!!
DampDeceiver said:
I will wait for TWRP official for sure now, but one last question.
It is possible to unlock the bootloader (that wipes all my data) right now, and not root, right? So I will just unlock it for the future when TWRP official is released and I can root w/o losing all my data?
It's safe to follow a guide to just unlock the bootloader as of right now?
Thanks again! Very much appreciated!!
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This is what I did. Unlock the bootloader to save from data loss later, but no recovery or root until things are a little more understood.
DampDeceiver said:
I will wait for TWRP official for sure now, but one last question.
It is possible to unlock the bootloader (that wipes all my data) right now, and not root, right? So I will just unlock it for the future when TWRP official is released and I can root w/o losing all my data?
It's safe to follow a guide to just unlock the bootloader as of right now?
Thanks again! Very much appreciated!!
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Yes, you can unlock your bootloader and not root. You're correct that it will erase your data, but once it's unlocked you will be ready to root once official twrp and magisk root comes out.
You'll want to use Magisk because it keeps you compatible with Safety net, has root hide and really good modules as well to add stuff.
If you want a dark theme for now you can download Andromeda from the Play store, and hen substratum. It doesn't need root just some commands from your pc and adb. However it is a few dollars, so if you don't want to pay for that then you can just wait to root. The theme you'll want is swift black, but I use ozone as well. Swift black for some apps to be black theme, but ozone to get a custom accent color and dark theme for OOS quick settings, settings app, etc.
NateDev said:
Yes, you can unlock your bootloader and not root. You're correct that it will erase your data, but once it's unlocked you will be ready to root once official twrp and magisk root comes out.
You'll want to use Magisk because it keeps you compatible with Safety net, has root hide and really good modules as well to add stuff.
If you want a dark theme for now you can download Andromeda from the Play store, and hen substratum. It doesn't need root just some commands from your pc and adb. However it is a few dollars, so if you don't want to pay for that then you can just wait to root. The theme you'll want is swift black, but I use ozone as well. Swift black for some apps to be black theme, but ozone to get a custom accent color and dark theme for OOS quick settings, settings app, etc.
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That is what i was about to type, use andromeda from play store and use substratum to theme whatever you like.
Unlocking the bootloader is required if you want root and/or custom recovery(TWRP).
Custom recovery is optional and root does not depend on it, nor does custom recovery depend on root either. What custom recovery gives you are mainly two things:
1. More features than a stock recovery.
2. Able to flash unsigned zip.
So if neither of these two really means something to you then you can stay with stock recovery.
The root procedure could be a bit different depends on whether you use a customer recovery or not.
If you do, then the root procedure usually is just as simple as flash a Magisk installation zip.
If you do not use a custom recovery, stay on the stock recovery, then the root procedure is different because the stock recovery does not allow you to flash an unsigned zip. The procedure is:
1. Obtain the stock boot image.
2. Install Magisk Manager and use it to patch the boot image.
3. Boot the phone with the patched boot image(fastboot boot patched_boot.img command), thus you get a temporarily rooted phone. Temporarily means you lost root after reboot because the patched boot image is not actually written to the ROM of your phone.
4. Now on the (temporarily) rooted phone, you have all the power to install the root permanently, by Magisk Manager.
Hello,
I've been out of the rooting scene for a while now (last phone had a damn permalocked bootloader!) and wanted to be clear on a few things before rooting this phone.
1. I am aware that doing any sorts of modifications to the system will disable OTA updates and those have to be done manually, the question is when I restore my phone (removing root, going back to stock recovery, etc) will automatic OTA updates be re-enabled? Is the stock recovery image even available, or is this even possible? because...
2. When I am looking to sell the phone in the future, I want to be sure that the phone doesn't show any signs of tampering. I am wondering this because the last phone I rooted was the Motorola z2 force, which was the first phone I've ever seen with that "unlocked bootloader" warning when powering on. And with that phone even after all the images were returned to stock, there was still a "your device has loaded a different os" warning, even if it was the stock image. The CTS system functioned similarly to Samsung's knoxs system, where once it was tripped, there was no going back and I wasn't aware of this...
TL;DR: If I ever wish to sell the phone to completely stock (relocked bootloader, stock recovery img, etc), will the phone be permanently tainted with a message like with the image attached? thanks!
PhantomSoul said:
Hello,
I've been out of the rooting scene for a while now (last phone had a damn permalocked bootloader!) and wanted to be clear on a few things before rooting this phone.
1. I am aware that doing any sorts of modifications to the system will disable OTA updates and those have to be done manually, the question is when I restore my phone (removing root, going back to stock recovery, etc) will automatic OTA updates be re-enabled? Is the stock recovery image even available, or is this even possible? because...
2. When I am looking to sell the phone in the future, I want to be sure that the phone doesn't show any signs of tampering. I am wondering this because the last phone I rooted was the Motorola z2 force, which was the first phone I've ever seen with that "unlocked bootloader" warning when powering on. And with that phone even after all the images were returned to stock, there was still a "your device has loaded a different os" warning, even if it was the stock image. The CTS system functioned similarly to Samsung's knoxs system, where once it was tripped, there was no going back and I wasn't aware of this...
TL;DR: If I ever wish to sell the phone to completely stock (relocked bootloader, stock recovery img, etc), will the phone be permanently tainted with a message like with the image attached? thanks!
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If you flash stock image and relock bootloader no one will ever know.
As far as otas while rooted, this device will allow you to accept, it will just overwrite root.
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In your image it's because it's a Motorola, not a good manufacturer with bootloader (but not the worst).
There is 3 big ways with bootloader:
#1 (the best) : The unlock method is 100% in the "code" and you can unlock and relock it yourself (Google with Nexus and Pixel)
#2 (good but not the best) : The unlock method is in the code BUT the manufacturer has a part of the method (an unique code) and you can't do it without register your IMEI on the website, so the manufacturer know it, you lose the warranty... (Motorola, Sony).
#3 (the worst) : You just can't because the manufacturer doesn't want. (Nokia)
jmtjr278 said:
If you flash stock image and relock bootloader no one will ever know.
As far as otas while rooted, this device will allow you to accept, it will just overwrite root.
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@jmtjr278
Thank you for your informative post. I just got my 3a and am very happy with it. I rooted via pbanj's recommended procedure and changed out some apps. Except for loading his patched image that allows Magisk I have made no changes to the basic pie room.
Your reply suggests I can install an ota, lose root, but I can reinstall root via panbj's procedure.
alliance1975 said:
@jmtjr278
Thank you for your informative post. I just got my 3a and am very happy with it. I rooted via pbanj's recommended procedure and changed out some apps. Except for loading his patched image that allows Magisk I have made no changes to the basic pie room.
Your reply suggests I can install an ota, lose root, but I can reinstall root via panbj's procedure.
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Yes, sir. I'm not sure what method you used other than flashing the rooted boot.img but if am update comes out either patch the new kernel or wait for pbanj to post the modified img. That's it. Easy peasy
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alliance1975 said:
@jmtjr278
Thank you for your informative post. I just got my 3a and am very happy with it. I rooted via pbanj's recommended procedure and changed out some apps. Except for loading his patched image that allows Magisk I have made no changes to the basic pie room.
Your reply suggests I can install an ota, lose root, but I can reinstall root via panbj's procedure.
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You can't install ota on rooted phone. It will fail in recovery.
The steps you need to do is as follows:
1. boot to bootloader, use fast boot to flash stock boot.img
2. go to recovery, apply ota.zip using adb sideload
3. boot back to bootloader, flash the patched boot.img with root
4. reboot and enjoy with root and all your apps/data intact.
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You can't install ota on rooted phone. It will fail in recovery.
The steps you need to do is as follows:
1. boot to bootloader, use fast boot to flash stock boot.img
2. go to recovery, apply ota.zip using adb sideload
3. boot back to bootloader, flash the patched boot.img with root
4. reboot and enjoy with root and all your apps/data intact.
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Wow a slightly different procedure. So it would appear I need the stock boot image when I want to do an OTA. Thanks.
There have been lots of issues with Google pay and securehub (if you work at a big company and want company email on your phone) and unlocked bootloader. Yes, magisk does eventually find workarounds, just depends on how much time you want to spend screwing around knowing it'll break relatively often. Also, we don't have many developers on board yet, so as far as custom roms and kernels go, it's slim pickings.
All that being said, rooted stock is great as long as you don't mind resetting everything to unlock the bootloader.
As you have noted, if you unlock the bootloader you will get the warning when booting. However, unlike your previous phone, you can reflash to stock and relock your bootloader very easily.
Obtaining root and then accepting OTA updates is also much easier with the Pixel phones (and really any phone that is now using A/B partitions). Here is a to some magisk tutorials that show you how easy it is to take an OTA update. https://topjohnwu.github.io/Magisk/tutorials.html
Also as noted previously, it can be tricky to get Google Pay set up with a rooted device. It is possible, but it takes some effort. Personally I don't use Google Pay, so it's no loss to me and I haven't bothered trying to get it to work. Otherwise root is very important to me. I use several mods/apps that are very important to me. Viper4Android, Advanced Charging Control, Ad blocking, Youtube Vanced, and Active Edge Mod (a unique mod for Pixel devices with the active edge gesture) as well as root explorer, tasker (and related apps like secure settings) and titanium backup.
To me, having access to those mods and apps are well worth seeing the warning message and having to manually accept a OTA update and having an extra step or two in the update process.
Hi,
I'm quite new to rooting. I've jailbroken many iPhones but it's been much easier than rooting Android.
Either way, I have an app to connect my PS3 controller to my OP7pro. This app requires the phone to be rooted. I'm wondering if I have to do everything in the tutorials or just something simple like unlocking the bootloader. I'm also curious if after the root I will be able to install the backup from my pc and keep the root. I do not need nor want Magisk or TWRP at the moment, I will install it at some point.
What do I need to do to make a root-critical app work as simply as possible?
is very simple to root just follow one of the multiples guides in this forum, if you have a T-mobile variant you need to sim unlock first then convert it to intl.
it all sounds complicated but is very easy
piotrekkrzewi said:
Hi,
I'm quite new to rooting. I've jailbroken many iPhones but it's been much easier than rooting Android.
Either way, I have an app to connect my PS3 controller to my OP7pro. This app requires the phone to be rooted. I'm wondering if I have to do everything in the tutorials or just something simple like unlocking the bootloader. I'm also curious if after the root I will be able to install the backup from my pc and keep the root. I do not need nor want Magisk or TWRP at the moment, I will install it at some point.
What do I need to do to make a root-critical app work as simply as possible?
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If you NEED root then at the moment you NEED magisk
Unlock bootloader first for you need to and it'll wipe all your data...
Twrp is not necessary however it makes things easier such as backing up, flashing from recovery, etc.
HtcOnekid said:
is very simple to root just follow one of the multiples guides in this forum, if you have a T-mobile variant you need to sim unlock first then convert it to intl.
it all sounds complicated but is very easy
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Aight, but will I be able to restore my backup and keep the root?
What's this app you are using to use your ps3/4 controller?
No point in trying to avoid Magisk. I reckon the same applies to TWRP as well. They're extremely simple to install. Connect your phone to a PC, reboot to bootloader/fastboot mode, then run
fastboot boot TWRP.img (either rename the twrp image or change the filename the command refers to), then in the temporary twrp you flash 2 zip files (twrp installer + Magisk). Done. Rooted with twrp and magisk (After you unlock your bootloader, of course).
Trying to root without Magisk or TWRP will not only be more difficult, but also likely cause you issues (such as no Google Pay).
Magisk is your best XDA friend! Cheers
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What's this app you are using to use your ps3/4 controller?
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Sixaxis controller is the app
I'd like to thank you all for clarifying the topic. It seems like a really nice forum. But what I need to know is will I be able to restore my OnePlus Switch backup from the app and will i keep the root? The last thing I want is to reinstall all the apps.
Why would you need root to use a bluetooth device?
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Why would you need root to use a bluetooth device?
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You can not pair a ps3 controller with the phone and just make it work. It need some sort of a driver, and this app is one. But for some reason it needs root to show the local bluetooth adress and connect.
piotrekkrzewi said:
I'm wondering if I have to do everything in the tutorials or just something simple like unlocking the bootloader.
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Unlocked bootloader is just an unlocked bootloader. It is not root.
As other have touched upon, Magisk is the root method for this device. I'm not aware of any other root method. Only different variations on flashing Magisk. It's awesome, works great, reliable, and well supported by the developer. So I see no reason to avoid it. Yes, Magisk has some features you may not need. But you can simply opt not to use them. My opinion, it still is a lightweight and unbloated root solution.
You can root using Magisk, without TWRP. But you need to flash a patched boot image (and the correct one for your OOS version, or you will have problems). So you would really be making the process harder for no good reason. And in my opinion, having a modded device (root) without a custom recovery (TWRP) is not a good idea. It is called "recovery" for a reason, as it allows you a lot of options to recover the device if things go wrong. Much more so than the stock recovery (which is nearly useless, really only good for installing stock OTA updates on stock devices).
I don't personally use Oneplus Switch backup app. But I don't see any reason why it would not work once rooted. If you downloaded the apps from the Google Play store, they should just automatically reinstall anyway (after root, and starting up the phone again)?
In any case, losing data (having to setup the phone again, etc.) is always a possibility when unlocking the bootloader and rooting these devices. If you choose to mod the phone, it's just a possibility we all live with.
After leaving Samsung, I did not root my phone as never felt the need for it, as I used root for battery mods and roms.
So can anyone tell me that what interesting mods I can do after rooting my phone?
You can install custom ROMs which have extended features for your phone like changing what buttons do, having an always on display show different things, have shortcuts mapped etc. Custom kernels can manage your phone better whether you like more battery or more performance. Then you have magisk modules come in that can add further functionality and then Edxposed, F-droid the list goes on and on.
You can get rid of ads in your apps.
You can have modded youtube without any ads and other stuff.
Tons of stuff
i root because a few mods:
Viper4android
Call Recorder - not available in my country.
EdXposed with gravitybox - for little customizing
Youtube Vanced
i also root because i had oneplus 5 before which was not rooted and one day i messed up and couldnt get it to work again. i really tried everything - if i was rooted i probably could have fixed my op5.
How do you install new updates then?
Once the updates are out you can install them directly with your phone as you have been doing with any other phone.
The only thing is that after every update you have to root again your phone as the update 'delete' the root.
Nothing major, don't worry. Trust me, us, once you root you won't be able to have your phone unrooted anymore ?
If you are in doubt I suggest you to root it once and then, after a new update you can decide if root it again or not ?
If ur not willing to walk the mile of getting knowledge, dont root
You can use it to teleport to another dimension.
Jk jokes aside you have full control of your system and can do all kinds of modification which how you modify will make it awesome or perform worse.
@bibop80 @chintu1234 @whizeguy
I have rooted my phones for years when I used Samsung devices.
Samsung had issues with battery and performance so that time I had rooted my device.
But since I am using op6 I am so satisfied with the performance and battery, that's why I never rooted my device.
Now I am bored and want to try few mods, so I will root my phone.
I have never used magisk root method, and as I said it's been almost 2 years I rooted device, so I'll be happy if someone can guide me in detail and best root method, I am currently on latest fw android 10.
Thanks in advance!
I do agree with you about Samsung, that is why I passed to oneplus few years ago, the only thing I do miss is the camera quality.
A part of that, you'll be happy to have your phone rooted (Magisk is amazing!)
I suggest you the section of this forum GUIDES, NEWS AND DISCUSSION; once there you'll find the guide titled "OnePlus 6: Unlock Bootloader | Flash TWRP | Root | Nandroid & EFS Backup !!"
It looks more difficult than with Samsung but it isn't at all!
Good luck man and welcome to the Dark side
bebop80 said:
I do agree with you about Samsung, that is why I passed to oneplus few years ago, the only thing I do miss is the camera quality.
A part of that, you'll be happy to have your phone rooted (Magisk is amazing!)
I suggest you the section of this forum GUIDES, NEWS AND DISCUSSION; once there you'll find the guide titled "OnePlus 6: Unlock Bootloader | Flash TWRP | Root | Nandroid & EFS Backup !!"
It looks more difficult than with Samsung but it isn't at all!
Good luck man and welcome to the Dark side
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Thanks for the info, I checked the forum.
Kindly help me to understand few things -
Do I need to install Twrp tp install Magisk?
Will I lose any apps like snapchat?
You can root your phone also without installing the twrp (if you are not intended to deep mod your phone). I'd suggest anyway to install the twrp.
Yes, magisk is needed it can be compared as the supersu but with extended feautures.
If I don't mistake (I did unlock my bootloader on my 1st day I owned the oneplus) all data will be wiped and yes... You might loose your data.
If you can make a backup of your photos, videos and any extra file on a PC and after the unlock and root procedure you can restore them.
All other app can just be downloaded again.... ???
for people mentioning about adfree & background youtube, this can be done in a virgin phone also. just install the vanced apk.
JerryGoyal said:
for people mentioning about adfree & background youtube, this can be done in a virgin phone also. just install the vanced apk.
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I am already using YouTube vanced, it's great.
bebop80 said:
You can root your phone also without installing the twrp (if you are not intended to deep mod your phone). I'd suggest anyway to install the twrp.
Yes, magisk is needed it can be compared as the supersu but with extended feautures.
If I don't mistake (I did unlock my bootloader on my 1st day I owned the oneplus) all data will be wiped and yes... You might loose your data.
If you can make a backup of your photos, videos and any extra file on a PC and after the unlock and root procedure you can restore them.
All other app can just be downloaded again.... ???
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I guess I'll be doing this on next weekend. I'll post query if I have any doubts. Thanks!
I find that making phone calls with this device seem to be the thing that most people do
bebop80 said:
You can root your phone also without installing the twrp (if you are not intended to deep mod your phone). I'd suggest anyway to install the twrp.
Yes, magisk is needed it can be compared as the supersu but with extended feautures.
If I don't mistake (I did unlock my bootloader on my 1st day I owned the oneplus) all data will be wiped and yes... You might loose your data.
If you can make a backup of your photos, videos and any extra file on a PC and after the unlock and root procedure you can restore them.
All other app can just be downloaded again.... ???
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I am unable to flash twrp from adb,i ve unlocked the bootloader.any help?
nvrmndryo said:
I am unable to flash twrp from adb,i ve unlocked the bootloader.any help?
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Follow this guide
h***s://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-twrp/
Double check all the adb instructions before confirming them and check that you have all the right files necessary for the operation. (start your pc terminal as administrator)
bebop80 said:
Follow this guide
h***s://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-install-twrp/
Double check all the adb instructions before confirming them and check that you have all the right files necessary for the operation. (start your pc terminal as administrator)
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Thanks. successfully rooted my phone.