For those of you who have had this phone for over a year, how is your battery?
Mine has degraded more than I thought it would, especially considering I'm fairly careful to not let the charge get below 20% or above 90% Then again, I'm using the phone as if I'm a teenager (I'm 55), especially during the pandemic. Lots of scrolling through news, Instagram, etc. No FaceBook though.
The phone still holds enough charge to be useful, but according to Accubattery, it's down to about 67-70% overall health. Those are preliminary results, having just installed the app a few days ago.
After 577 sessions by battery health is at 87%
I'm at 84% health based on 243 sessions 11,300% charged.
It started with ~95% health when I bought it "refurbished" on eBay May, 2019.
My problem is it doesn't quick charge, 0.5A max. And probably related I can't connect to PC for data transfer anymore.
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wondered if people have an opinion on the best way to charge the XDA.
With my current mobile (samsung N500) I always used the policy of charge until full, then run until flat, then charge until full again etc.
ie, never recharging until it was flat. This is a bit of a throwback to when I used to use nicads a lot about 15 years ago.
the methodology being that if you did it this way the batteries remembered how much charge they were supposed to hold.
however, these new lithium polymer batteries in PDA's aren't supposed to have this issue are they?
On my samsung it's been fine, it's held charge well and never really gotten less, even after a years worth of charging and discharging.
A chap at work does the complete opposite, he puts his on charge whenever he can, whether it's flat or not, and usually before it falls below 80%, his reasoning being that he read somewhere that if you trickle charge it a lot it lasts longer.
as you can see, two conflicting methods of working.
what should I be doing to make my battery last as long and as well as possible
The "memory effect" issue is known for the N.MH battaries only ... and it's true that u have to drain it each time ... the XDA has L.Polymer type which doesn't have this issue ... u can charge it each night.
so I can charge it each night whether it's flat or not? sorry if this sounds dumb but I just want to make sure I understand this right,
don't fell like sending it off to have the battery replaced every few months because I abuse it.
yes ... u can actually leave it powered in the cradle the whole time
I knew the Nicads had the memory problem, but the NiMh aren't supposed to be as bad. Most new types of batteries don't have the memory problem, just increased capacities and less harmful to the environment.
discharge almost fully then recharge
I used to own a iPAQ 3630 and now I own an O2 XDA. Both the iPAQ and the XDA have a Li-Po battery, and with both devices I have the same charge/discharge experience. The battery lasts longer if you discharge it almost fully, till say 20-30% and then charge, not sooner. Constantly recharging decreases battery life considerably, as if the battery gets "lazy". My XDA's battery now lasts 5-6 hours usage with backlight on plus some 48hrs on standby. My 2 cents.
well after one days use I'm impressed by the battery life
fully charged and went off charge at 5pm
10 mins talk time
3 hours farting around with it in the evening
went to bed at 11pm
backlight off
no switch off set
phone switched off
by 7.30 am this morning, still had 30% battery left
nice.
Saving battery while listening to music
I have never had a problem keeping a battery charge until recently. I normally have my sx56 on standby and talk for about an hour a day and maybe spend half an hour checking appointments. I just recently got a 512 card and when I'm walking somewhere I listen to music. Maybe another hour out of my day. For whatever reason I used to end a 12 hour day with 40-50% battery and now I'm down to 10-20. I currently use wm player and keep the screen off when music is on. Do other softwares use less battery and is this drain in 12 hours normal. It sounds excessive to me.
doesn't sound out of the ordinary.
playing of MP3's really drains the batteries. quite a few reviews use draining the batteries by playing MP3's as some sort of yardstick.
I've seen reviews that quote the XDa as running down flat after 3 .5 hours from playing MP3's.
Can someone help me out here this is for an Orbit 2 less than 1 week old. I charged the device this morning so by 09:00 it was on full power. By 14:00 its down to 75%. Usage below:
10 minutes phone calls
I have my email set to retrieve from Yahoo every 15 minutes
On battery the screen is set to 50% - 75% brightness
Co-pilot has live function and traffic updates, but I presume that is only when its actually turned on and running Co-Pilot
What is going wrong?
Firstly, did you give it 3 charges of 16 hours plus? I didn't, and don't have as good a battery life of some others that did.
Also, have you got Windows Live connected and checking your hotmail constantly? That killed my battery.
Finally, I leave HSDPA switched off, as I find it chews juice without being THAT much faster; 3G is fast enough browsing and downloading for me.
Good luck, keep us posted.
I've got a HTC TyTN (hermes) and i get the same problem: my battery wears off in maximum 3 hours after i fully charge it. all the connections are turned off,except for the phone function. also, while it's charging, no matter if it's charging through the usb or the AC charger, the battery gets very hot. PLEASE can anyone help
(i have the black satin normal rom, with the 1.43.00.00 radio version installed)
I all so have battery questions. This devise was advertised as an 7 hour talk time on GSM. Compare to my T-Mobile wing witch was only 5 hour talk time.
I don't use phone a lot during day only 5-10 min phone calls and every 60 min e-mail check. And T-mobile Wing (p4350) was going for 3 days no charge no problem. And This I have to charge every day. At the end of the day i have only 60% And T-Mobile USA don't have 3G eat.
I don't get it this phone supposed have one of the best battery life out of HTC phones. And I did charge it wan i first got it for long time before i tern it on.
About chargin and discharge our phones, whe have to remember that we do not use NiCd/NiMh batteries any more.
I have some facts about Li-ion batteries!!!
Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life!
Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%.
Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate any external electronic "fuel gauge" (e.g. State Of Charge meter). This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.
Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to below their minimum voltage, 2.4v to 3.0v per cell.
Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
According to one book,[35] lithium-ion batteries should not be frozen (most lithium-ion battery electrolytes freeze at approximately −40 °C; however, this is much colder than the lowest temperature reached by household freezers).
Li-ion batteries should be bought only when needed, because the aging process begins as soon as the battery is manufactured.[13]
When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed, and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
/Krypto
BadTasteUK said:
Firstly, did you give it 3 charges of 16 hours plus? I didn't, and don't have as good a battery life of some others that did.
Also, have you got Windows Live connected and checking your hotmail constantly? That killed my battery.
Finally, I leave HSDPA switched off, as I find it chews juice without being THAT much faster; 3G is fast enough browsing and downloading for me.
Good luck, keep us posted.
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16 hours?!?!?!!?
It's a highly debated point, but it seems some who have done the old "3 charges of 16 hours" have a longer lasting battery than certainly I do.
In fact the O2 shop I bought the phone from advised the same, although I didn't actually do it!
Who knows the real best thing to do, all I know is I only get a day out of it, with light to medium use and HSDPA turned off.
Personally, I'm a little speculative of the 16 hour charge times.
I'm not gonna try to be an expert here, but aren't Li-Ion charge circuits designed such that when the battery reaches capacity, the charge cycle is complete? Ie. There is no further trickle charge to the battery? In that case, the 16 hour charge is not doing any good.
But in any case, I myself get 2 days fairly easily with about 1.5-2 hours of phone calls in an Edge area.
I am a firm believer a big difference comes from using of Standby and your signal strength. I've noticed where I go ski'in there is a very weak signal and my battery life drops to 40% or less in one day. So I think this is one major characteristic that will vary between all of us and will dramatically affect the battery life test results.
DaRacerz, you are absolutly right!
No trickle charge is applied because the Li-ion is unable to absorb overcharge. Trickle charge could cause plating of metallic lithium, a condition that renders the cell unstable.
So charging for 16 hours won't do anything.
What battery health does it report for you?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery
Had my Pixel 2 since Nov and tend to try and look after the battery with the now popular wisdom of not charging beyond about 80% when I don't need to. AccuBattery already now reporting 87% battery capacity (2362mAh total), even when benchmarking 0-100% charge. I can't recall what it reported when I first used AccuBattery - maybe mid 90's?
So perhaps I have a low capacity battery, or maybe AccuBattery should not be trusted anyway. Most users seem to get good and believable results from it. In use the Pixel's battery life seems reasonable and consistent with what many folk see, but we're only talking about a 13% margin and usage models and thus battery life change much more than that from person to person. It's just a 13% of extra capacity/life between charges that I'd quite like to have!
But how on earth do I prove reduced/poor battery capacity to get a RMA? I can't say "an app on the Play Store claimed XYZ". Phone was purchased from Google. Maybe I have to RMA based on some other fault I can cite that I can prove?!
Any ideas/experience of any of this?
I've had my pixel 1 for about 5 months (I got a warranty replacement because my previous battery would die in half a day), and AccuBattery shows my battery capacity health at 2087 mAH
My original Pixel 2 actually and genuinely stopped charging intermittently and I had no trouble getting it RMA'd. AccuBattery performs the same on the replacement.
I have now found with my Pixel 2 that AccuBattery under-reports capacity almost always whenever the phone is partially charged. It reports higher capacity when the phone is fully charged - the state it gets to beyond a reported 100% and when it actually stops charging. I put this down to a non-linear battery gauge on the phone - probably by design
I've had mine since October, never bothered with anything fussy like stopping charging at 80%, mostly used the supplied (fast) charger overnight (occasionally other chargers/power banks/USB). Today it's saying my capacity is 93%, but yesterday it was 89% and a few days ago it was 85%. The main thing I take from that is that it fluctuates by several % day to day.
Anyway I'd be amazed if they accepted 13% battery wear over 11 months usage as grounds for an RMA.
I asked this exact thing on Reddit and got nowhere. It's got to be some issue with pie and accubattery. All three of my pixel phones suddenly lost 15-25% battery capacity after pie. 2 pixel 2 and one og pixel XL. Right after a factory reset my pixel 2 shows 99% capacity and then slowly drains down after some charge drain cycles . Perviously it was always above 95%
Almost a month since purchasing (Amazon return window coming up fast). Here's my experience given that I walked right into this battery-gate issue.
Disclaimer: I'm a heavy user. I get A LOT of email notifications, WhatsApp and keep the screen fairly bright (never less than 7 out of 10). It has Verizon LTE service. Verizon said this would not affect my battery life....
Week one. On a full charge I could only get about 5 hours. Off the charger 9 am and by 2pm it was back on the charger for a one hour re-charge that got me home until it was back on the charger for the night.
I had to purchase a second charger for my desk during the day. I picked up a third for $8 just to keep in my bag for when on the go.
Week 2. Same 20% drain per hour.
Week 3. I switched off diagnostic notifications, and switched from vibrate alerts to sound alerts. Big improvement. I went from 5 hours to about 9 hours. Battery drain is now 11% per hour.
Zero Lemon needs to make an S3 case...
And it needs a fast charging port. A Battery this small would charge quickly with a cord. 2 hours for 0% to 90% is pretty ridiculous in this era. My Note 3 charged to 100% in an hour 4 years ago.. And yes I know it's for waterproofing but other makers like Garmin and Polar use charging ports with waterproof gaskets.
I was getting about 2 to 3 percent per hour until a few days ago when the battery drain bug hit. At that time, it was almost 12% per hour.
I did a factory reset and I'm sitting at about 1.6 to 2 percent per hour.
I get about 1-2% but I don't need the fitness tracking stuff so i usually have Samsung health disabled and AOD off but location on and wake gestures on. I also have the diagnostic option off since the day I got it. I read somewhere the current battery bug can be averted by turning the diagnostic option off. I get 20+ emails a day and about 30+ texts and WhatsApp each. So I generally use my watch for texts, WhatsApp, emails, weather and Samsung Pay
With AOD ON and use for many things : cheklist, note, memo, notification, alarm, timer, stopwatch.... I have average drain of 3.5% at 4.5% by hour. I'm happy when I have 3.5% but it grow quicly to 4%-4.5% if I use a little. Just but can live with this.
For those who have serious battery drain on v3.0.0.2 (and even have broken sensors such as heart rate detection like me) can go for repair, if still covered by warranty.
I have recently the same behavior as described by many after upgraded to v3.0.0.2, battery drain 20%/hr and it become worse when I found out wake up gesture is not working at all, so is the heart rate sensor as well as steps tracker.
I hesitated whether to send it back to repair, but in the end so glad I did, it only took 1 day and they informed me they have changed the motherboard and replace with new battery (as I told them about bad battery drain issue as well). And guess what, I got back my gear s3 frontier with everything working but on old enough firmware 2.3.2.3 (which is working pretty good, just that battery usage around 5%/hr not that great).
After that I decided to take the risk to upgrade my firmware to 3.0.0.2 again, and whoa, everything still works perfect and battery drain has gone! Battery usage is now around 1%/hour which is acceptable I think.
I got my p7p back in December,. I noticed that the battery health is around 97% using FKM and accubattery .. Is there any way to calibrate the battery ? And is it normal to loose 3% over 4 months ?
Do you really think after 3 months of use, your battery health would still be 100%?
Actually I kinda would. Or at least not a hard reduction of 3%.
With a capacity drop up to 20% over 2 to 3 years I would expect 1.5% - 2% in the first couple of months if your phone is in use 24x7.
I'm actually seeing less reduction as I switch off my phone every night and keep ik relatively cool (no gaming). This behavior slows down the formation of dendrites and I have reported drop of 0%. ccu battery reports that I'm still at max capacity and so do several other health checkers. Probably due to rounding off number, realistically my p7p is probably also a bit <100%
Those apps are just rough estimates anyways and it even lists that in Franco. Not sure about Accubattery. I wouldn't worry about it and just use your phone.