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Non thread SMS, deleted contacts and some other issues

Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum and have tried searching it but its a bit overwhelming. I am not a software developer, nor am i in the IT for what its worth. I consider myself to be a power user in the PC world so I believe I can handle the solution you may give me
Id like to have non threaded SMS. If its threaded I cannot erase my SENT messages (I dont need those) as I also delete RECEIVED this way. I wish to keep some of them and maybe save them into some personal folder or something. On my old p990i this was really easy to do.
Also, today I erased one contact and the phone erased the messages I received earlier from this person! No other phone has ever done that; they all simply left the messages with the phone nr they were sent from....
Lastly, the phone is very slow in switching touch flo and win interface; it is often possible to "see under" the win interface and see parts of touch flo showing through and vice versa. THis happens especialy in the messaging.
Please help.
Many greetings from Croatia!
Alex

astrbac said:
Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum and have tried searching it but its a bit overwhelming. I am not a software developer, nor am i in the IT for what its worth. I consider myself to be a power user in the PC world so I believe I can handle the solution you may give me
Id like to have non threaded SMS. If its threaded I cannot erase my SENT messages (I dont need those) as I also delete RECEIVED this way. I wish to keep some of them and maybe save them into some personal folder or something. On my old p990i this was really easy to do.
Also, today I erased one contact and the phone erased the messages I received earlier from this person! No other phone has ever done that; they all simply left the messages with the phone nr they were sent from....
Lastly, the phone is very slow in switching touch flo and win interface; it is often possible to "see under" the win interface and see parts of touch flo showing through and vice versa. THis happens especialy in the messaging.
Please help.
Many greetings from Croatia!
Alex
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As for changing from threaded to classic.
Start --> Settings --> System --> Text Messaging --> Drop down choose classic
I'm not sure about deleting messages associated with a contact, when you delete contact?
Your phone comes with tons of "bloat ware". My advice is to read up on how to flash a custom rom. I could never use my phone if I had to use it strait out of the box. Thats the beauty of these phones, you can customize to your exact needs. Its not that hard, just do some research. If you get stuck, pm me and I'll help you out.
Good luck, and welcome.
PS, this site is GREAT. Also try http://ppcgeeks.com

Asurion Mobile AddressBook for Android

Hello XDA,
I am one of the developers of the Asurion Mobile AddressBook and I would like to get some feedback on our product from the users here. I have been using this forum for some thine now for Winmo and respect the opinions of the developers here. It would be great to see what everyone thinks of the application. It is available in the Android Marketplace, just search Asurion. Or you can go to our site at http://www.getaddressbook.com/.
A little about AddressBook, it is a socially connected address book that allows you to get information about your contacts from different social sites like Facebook and Twitter right in the address book, through mini programs called Mixins.
Soon we will have an APK for developers to develop their own Mixins for AddressBook. When its ready I will post more information if anyone would like to beta for us.
AddressBook is still in a beta form and is available for 1.6 and 2.0 and above. Please try it out and let me know what you think. AddressBook is new and we are open to positive and negative feedback.
Thanks,
Peter

Just installed
Main app + all MixIn
It's a nice app, just a bit slow on my HTC Sapphire Magic Vodafone 32B with 2.1 Eclair Rom
I don't like "MixIn solution", why not a full app with all modules inside ?
I've launched main app, then I gone to market and installed Facebook MixIn for first.
After a lot of privacy authorization with some screen not well fitted I did a little war with Matching People, cause a lot of them were not matched nice.
I need Photos compare, cause I've some cases with two or more people with the exact name... like my cousins =)
I had some Facebook MixIn Force close Crashes and some com.google.process.gapps crashes too, right now...
I installed flickr and associate it with some of my contacts and no problems at all.
at last I tried Twitter and no probs with it...
I think it's a good app, but a bit slow...
last thing:
Support for all languages (I could translate it in Italian if you need)
I don't like number in this format 000-000-0000
or 00-000-0000
I know it's a developing app and I will wait for next releases of this.
Well Done
Good Job

This is some great feedback, thanks for taking the time to try it out and post back.

Just wondering
Is this ultimately going to be a paid application?
You know like:
5.99/mo
4.79/mo
1.99/mo
What's our deductible? :0

Haven't tried the app, but if you could spread the QR codes apart it will ease their reading.

Thanks for your app!
played with it 30mins.
1. got the main app
2. started a new a/c in www.getaddressbook.com
3. got the MixIn: Facebook
4. start the MixIn app, input Facebook a/c
5. click Allow buttons 3 times
6. MixIn starts to get contacts from FB
7. Auto Match
8. Manual adjust Auto Match results
9. Launch main app
The above steps took about 25mins (330 FB contacts; 300 gmail contacts; Auto Matched 180; manual picked out... haven't counted >_< i believe picked out 30 - 50).
Cool:
-Auto Match tried to best match FB | Local contacts even they are not perfect match.
e.g. Shirley Lam | Salei Lam (it matches)
-Facebook photos can replace local as well as sync. to Gmail Contacts
-Consolidated activities log (SMS, voice call, etc) for individual contact
Not:
-[MixIn: FB] Say you have some contacts named Peter Chan, you will get confused without some other hints like Organization.
I picked those contacts out in Auto Match to prevent mis-matching as Org is not displayed in Auto Match results
-[main app] Contact list won't remember the last viewed location.
I scrolled from top to Carol, click twice to view details, click Return and the contact list scrolls back to top.
-[main app] Slow. Maybe it's my outdated HTC Magic... (it's CyanogenMod 4.2.13 w/ EBI1 mod]
For me:
Keep and waiting for updates!

looks cool..will try this later when i get home for work..
speed is defiantely something that can be worked on.

thebluecoat said:
Is this ultimately going to be a paid application?
You know like:
5.99/mo
4.79/mo
1.99/mo
What's our deductible? :0
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No, the application will be free. And no deductible that I know of

It looks interesting but what you should definitely not miss is the T9 dialer. The way you can find contact by typing their name directly from the dialer is the only feature that makes me stay on 1.5. I tried other apps from the Market but nothing could match HTC's Sense UI dialer. If you can bring something clean similar to this I'm sold!

Another question for the community. Are there any features you are not seeing in the AddressBook that you would like to see, things that would make this app a must have?

Great work on the app. After using the app for a few days the main reason I stopped us using it was the user interface. Its not horrible but compared to everything else on the phone, it looks a bit outdated (quality wise). Other then the ui, it can be sluggish at times but nice work.

DesertWolf1971 said:
Another question for the community. Are there any features you are not seeing in the AddressBook that you would like to see, things that would make this app a must have?
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Darvo is absolutely correct. The T9 dialer is something that is sorely missing from most builds. I think it would especially appeal to stock users as well as those running cooked roms. I have been searching for a reliable answer to this outside of a Sense UI but haven't found anything that I'll stand by 100%.

Thank you .........

I appreciate your effort with AddressBook; however:
I find it extremely inappropriate and invasive that the app immediately syncs my contacts upon install to -- where? your servers?
There should be a clear warning that this is about to happen!
Please delete my data from your servers!
Also, the 'delete all' function on your site does not work, at least not with Safari. I 'moved' all to the 'delete' column on right, but clicking on 'delete selected' does nothing.
And with Chrome I couldn't even log in. Got some error about 'src' and try the support page.

I am sorry that app is frustrating you. There is a screen during setup that lets you know about the backup. This function can be turned off in the app. If you give me your user name I will delete your account from the database. The back up is meant to protect your contacts in the case that you loose your phone or get a new one. As for browser support, right now we are only supporting IE and Firefox. Again sorry the app is frustrating for you.

Great app!
I really like and appreciate this app. The 2 biggest features that drew me to waste countless hours playing w/ hero roms on my mytouch were hero's T9 dialer, and the social integration. I'll 3rd the motion for a T9 dialer in your app. No complaints otherwise. Bravo - and thanks for the great app.
P.S. Backup to server is a bit redundant in my opinion, because your contacts already sync w/ your Google acct - but, to each is own. I might be missing an advantage to it anyway. I just opted not to use it.
And props for soliciting feedback here in the forum - where the REAL users are.

DesertWolf1971 said:
There is a screen during setup that lets you know about the backup. This function can be turned off in the app.
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Really? Because I can see in the options where to change the time and frequency of the sync, but I don't see how to disable syncing altogether. Maybe I'm just missing something?

Good catch, looks like there is a bug, you should be able to set it to not backup. We will work to get that fix in.

I have been playing around with the Hero, but I am not sure I have found the T9 dialer, what does it do?

Feedback
I've been following this app since it first arrived, and I must say bravo for doing what only HTC dared to attempt. It works well, too, except for a few things.
1. It may SEEM that scrolling smoothness isn't that important. Ask Apple, they'll tell you the truth: Its the only thing the masses give a Sh&% about, how something looks. So imitate the apple or hero contact style, because the one here is rough but needs only an easy fix! Smooth scrolling and better "sleek" colors. Same for the dialer.
2. It seems to run too often in the background, which slows my phone seemingly, no matter how often i taskiller it.
Eagerly awaiting the next release...

[Request] Chrome to phone-like app for finding phone

Hi guys!
I know there is a way to create a Chrome extension which, when clicked, launches an app on the phone that vibrates the phone and plays a sound file at the loudest volume, so I can find it. Like Chrome to phone but with a different purpose.
This would be a great app for those times when you need to go but just can't find your phone even though you know it is somewhere in the home. With just the press of a button you could hear (or feel, if it's very close to you) where it is! No need to use another phone to call yours or run around the apartment getting all tired and angry!
Personally I would have used it like eight times since I came up with the idea, but I don't know Android programming or HTML (for the extension) so I can't create it myself.

where's my droid
and a couple of other apps already do this. They take a sms message and crank up the volume.

arw01 said:
and a couple of other apps already do this. They take a sms message and crank up the volume.
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That's great for some people (with unlimited SMS), but unfortunately I haven't got unlimited SMS (nor do I always have access to a second phone. If I did though I would probably call my phone instead as this request is for finding the phone when you know it is somewhere near but don't have the patience to run around and search for it)
The app I want doesn't use SMS messages for launching the app but the Cloud-to-device service introduced with Android 2.2 and at the moment only available to a small but growing number of devices.
I use the Chrome to phone app & ext (code dot google dot com/p/chrometophone) on my Nexus and although it doesn't work every time when it does work it feels like magic!
I thought it would feel as much if not even more like magic if you could use this new service to find your phone with ease. I don't need it to have all the (for some) great features like showing where the phone is on a Google map or wiping important data if it's lost, I've got other apps for that.
I want this app to be as simple as it possibly can be, again like Chrome to phone:
Setting up: Download, Register phone, Be logged into Google account, done!
Use: Be logged into Google account, click extension button, wait a sec, phone rings, done!
Now does anyone here know how to create this app or where to request it to increase the chances of it getting past the idea stage and into something usable? It would surely make my day!

[Q] Maximum number of messages/sms?

Hji
Is there a maximum number of messages per conversation?
I've got 179 conversations holding ~20k messages. The longest thread is 5,5k and it doesn't work. The loading takes more than 10 minutes. The second longest thread is nearly 2,5k and loads completely fine.
I googled a bit but didn't find a solution for this though 5k was mentioned in many places. Is that true?
I'm using the Sense 4.0 default messaging app.
If 5k is the limit, how can I easily delete messages from beginning of the thread? Or are there any other solutions?
Thanks a lot in advance!

check apps settings, I think there was possible to set "limit". Dont have my S now, cant tell u where it was.

Stiflerlv said:
check apps settings, I think there was possible to set "limit". Dont have my S now, cant tell u where it was.
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General settings of SMS has "Delete old messages" option which gives you possibility to delete messages per conversation. When it's tapped and you try to set the limit, it gives you range of 10-5000.
So according to this, 5000 is the ultimate limit which the phone/ICS/Sense can hold comfortably? Is that right or are there any solutionts [to keep the messages in the conversation, they're of course backed up]?

If the limit is 5k per thread you might want to look at SMS Backup and Restore. You can export the messages to XML and maybe modify the XML with a text editor to hold the "oldest" 5k messages of a particular thread in a different thread.
1. You make a XML backup with the app
2. Edit the backup on your computer to replace the phone number in the overflowing thread to a different one
3. Wipe the entire message contents off the phone or even just selectively the thread in question
4. Restore the messages through the app and that way they should be put into the new thread you modified the XML with.
That way you could hold all the messages on the device at all times, but not in the same single thread I think.

Thanks psych0t1c! That sounds like a good idea and will surely work.
But I just came up with this third-party SMS app GoSMS Pro. Weirdly it does NOT have the problem of conversations longer than 5k messages. It loads them as fast as all the other, shorter ones.
So the limit must be in HTC Sense's messaging app. Or is it the default ICS app in One S?
Anyway, problem solved! Lets see if I stick to GoSMS as it got pretty nice other features too or if I follow your suggestion.

Sorry to bump a slightly old thread, but having the same problem with my sensation, 8k on one thread and seems it can't open the thread, and screws up all the others until I restart the phone, though handcent works fine. Probably something to do with being a port!
A develops input to this would be cool! Is there any way of hacking the apk to allow more messages to be stored? it's obviously not a problem with loading them as the sensation loads 3k conversations as quick as 1k ones...

Sorry to bump this old thread, but is there a solution to this? Or do we have to actually back it up and start a new thread?
Thanks

The Definitive Guide to Threaded MMS Group Chat on Android

So I got bombarded with 2 different sets of group texts from 2 different sets of friends who are iphone users and after the frustrating ordeal I decided to do some serious research.
Here's what I found (mods please move this if its in the wrong place) :
The state of affairs and summary aka the Short Version:
A couple of people are working on an OS level version for ASOP (not the Google core team frustringly and unfortunately).
Use Go SMS Pro or Handcent whichever one works better for you now.
I'm writing this post as a cry for help for those working on this though I'm not affiliated, just somewhat of an informed spectator.
Resource links:
Link of thread from person who has made the most progress:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve.../207431-group-text-messaging-jb-achieved.html
And their github: https://github.com/vivekvasani
Google Groups Discussion:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-contrib/Oh254kDdCas
Google Code Feature Request:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
background xda threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441941
(if you don't want to read about the whole process and my rant you can stop here...)
The Long Journey Version:
The quest to get this done as far as I can tell began with this xda thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774990
And 2 years later a member of our commmunity (who join specically to post about this as you can see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21539987#post21539987 )
Created a Google Code Feature Request: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
though many had questions about it before. This was probably what really set things in motion for a solution.
The standard answer to those with desire to have group / threaded mms chat on android has been to use Handcent or Go Sms...
No matter where you look be it here on xda, andriodcentral, droidforums, you name it.
Handcent was the first on the the scene with this working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559824
Go Sms a few months later: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680704
And to prempt all the use <GroupMe/Whatsapp/etc.> posts... I tried to get my friends to do that and they weren't having it. Immediately just started sending new mms group chats :/
And I mean can you blame them? Why install a new app when it just works for you by default?
And I'm an old school smartphone hacker (talking flashing windows mobile 5 roms) who loves a good dig into this kind of stuff; so here was a shiny new thing to hack
My personal story:
For reference I had started this journey on a Sprint HTC Evo 4G and more recently got the Evo 4G LTE which I am on now.
Handcent
I had been using handcent since their inital 4.0 release with the feature but then it started screwing up on me in a number of ways which I reported to them in an email.
the just of which is this:
So I would send messages to the thread and one of several things would happen:
1) it would just eat the message (that is to say it I would press send the message would disappear from the text box like it was going to send and then just do nothing. My friends would say they never got the message)
2) it would work flawlessly (messages disappears from textbox. shows up in green in the thread. friends respond normally)
3) it would wait a while and then finally show up in the original thread
4) it would wait a while then open a new thread to send the message (friends would be confused about new thread, but since they aren't as technical as me about software just carry on with convo in original thread. Confusing us all. It would show up as a new thread on their phones too though )
5) it would wait a while then give up (message would show back up in text box as if I had saved it as a draft)
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But the problems were only on the sending side. All messages sent to the group would show up in a group thread prorperly.
Go SMS
So I decided to try out Go Sms. And with it sending works flawless for me but... threading not at all. Every message that is supposed to be in the thread would show up in each indivudual sender's thread...
So I had an epiphany. I could have handcent do the downloading and threading... and have Go Sms do the sending. Which worked like a charm for about a day...
The Event or the reason you are reading this long post
Then the phone crashed... and after a restart things looked fine but then it happened.
I have two 2 different groups threads going one with 6 people in and one with 8.
They all had stuff they wanted to talk about today. Here was the ultimate test for the system right? Failed miserably.
Right now I've got about 8 threads with varying texts that should only be in 2 threads.
I was furious. Its crazy annoying when a conversation is going on and you can't figure out the context properly with that many people. Luckily I had the old threads that had worked to respond in but the new messages were all over the place.
I think uninstalling and then reisntalling first Handcent then Go SMS got it back working again but if I have to do that alot it will get annoying because these groups aren't going anywhere.
And this whole mess is a band aid. Not a solution.
Research time.
I need to know why this isn't working.
I mean long press one of those messages. Long story short it is an mms with extra numbers in the to: field.
Or even simpler all an MMS is a text file with some xml tags tossed in there for metadata. Your carrier sends you an sms with a link in it for where to download the text file from.
This cannot be that hard to fix and if it is I want to know why.
Google (search) time.
I searched for the Google Code thread I had seen a while back first. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24468
843 stars. Many comments by people just as baffled as me this isn't done already.
I even have a post there asking about where the code is so I could try to poke around.
Then I remembered I had just had a good conversation with one of the chrome developer tools devs on Google Groups so I decided to look there too
More info: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-contrib/Oh254kDdCas
Apparently a guy tweeted the person who is the lead Google Employee over AOSP and he told him to post there. Then the thread got closed because they had no soultion...
BUT wait! There is hope!
Shortly after that, a guy started working on a solution. Check his stuff out here.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...07431-group-text-messaging-jb-achieved-2.html
And this person is freaking amazing because he has gotten this far with little prior knowledge of the project, java, android, git or gerrit to begin with.
Here is also the github where he is working on his stuff https://github.com/vivekvasani
And the trails ends there.
His last commit was about 2 weeks ago and he was asked to contribute it to master a 3 days ago
I'm posting all this to say if there is anyone out there listening who cares and can help this guy get this done please do.
Its ludicrous that we don't have this completely solved yet.
Thanks for you time,
Will

Same problem here. A good portion of my friends are iPhone users, and they love to group text. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. Thanks for doing the research!

Talamor said:
Same problem here. A good portion of my friends are iPhone users, and they love to group text. I'll have to keep my eye on this one. Thanks for doing the research!
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You're welcome. Thanks for appreciating it.
And I've got it pretty stably working now.
Here's my setup:
1) Install Handcent first.
2) Make it default sms provider.
3) Turn on threading (it does this really well)
4) Install Go Sms
5) Set it's (Go Sms) option to send group mms in the send settings (its sending works well)
6) disable notifications in handcent if you don't want double notifications
7) MAKE SURE to disable popups in both programs
- I think this is what was causing the fc's and the crashing. They both try to access the sender's thread and download the mms to get the text but have to fight over access.

Just as a side note the MMS app on recent Motorola phones does group messaging perfectly. On my RAZR MAXX both the GB and now the ICS version is great. My iPhone friends use it all the time and it does it perfectly. No issues with lost messages or miss-threaded messages. Same for my friend using an Atrix 2 (on AT&T)
Perhaps someone can rip the APK for other people to use?
Also Verizon wireless in the US offers a SMS/MMS app for free on Google Play that also does group messages. I used to use this on my older phone which didn't naively support it.... sadly it won't install on non Verizon phones but perhaps someone can port that? I'm quite sure this is nothing but an artificial limitation.

williscool said:
You're welcome. Thanks for appreciating it.
And I've got it pretty stably working now.
Here's my setup:
1) Install Handcent first.
2) Make it default sms provider.
3) Turn on threading (it does this really well)
4) Install Go Sms
5) Set it's (Go Sms) option to send group mms in the send settings (its sending works well)
6) disable notifications in handcent if you don't want double notifications
7) MAKE SURE to disable popups in both programs
- I think this is what was causing the fc's and the crashing. They both try to access the sender's thread and download the mms to get the text but have to fight over access.
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:/ I'd really rather use the default android messaging app. I'd just like it to be able to do group texts. I'd love it if this enhancement ended up in CM10 or something. Did I misunderstand your original post? I thought you were saying that someone was working on a modified version of the default messaging app that would be able to handle group texts.
And adrianblack, you're saying that the default messaging app handles SMS/MMS group texts? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I'm looking for. Only issue is that I think a lot of the apps on the stock roms (i.e. non AOSP) are pretty tied in to those particular roms. Which is why they can't just port the camera or contacts from sense and put it on the Galaxy Nexus. Without the rom behind it, the apps won't run. Hopefully the messaging app on the RAZR MAXX isn't like that. Or, at the very least, it'll give someone something to reverse engineer in order to get the AOSP messaging app working with group texts.

Nope no misunderstanding.
Its just not done yet.
You can check out those threads I linked to.
The guy got it working but it hasn't been merged in anywhere.
Which means nobody in any of the release teams has tested it which means it will probably be a while before you could just download or flash it.
I was just sharing my, admittedly kludgy, way of having it work now
Talamor said:
:/ I'd really rather use the default android messaging app. I'd just like it to be able to do group texts. I'd love it if this enhancement ended up in CM10 or something. Did I misunderstand your original post? I thought you were saying that someone was working on a modified version of the default messaging app that would be able to handle group texts.
And adrianblack, you're saying that the default messaging app handles SMS/MMS group texts? That sounds pretty much exactly like what I'm looking for. Only issue is that I think a lot of the apps on the stock roms (i.e. non AOSP) are pretty tied in to those particular roms. Which is why they can't just port the camera or contacts from sense and put it on the Galaxy Nexus. Without the rom behind it, the apps won't run. Hopefully the messaging app on the RAZR MAXX isn't like that. Or, at the very least, it'll give someone something to reverse engineer in order to get the AOSP messaging app working with group texts.
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I hope it gets merged with CM soon. Both Go SMS and Handcent suck.

just recently found out about handcent working with group MMS, cannot wait to have this in CM10!

From the androidcentral thread linked in op, there are at least two CM10 nightly based ROMs with Vivek Vasani's (playa1257) changes included:
One from invisiblek and the other by euroskank

I've seen some threads thath this has been added to the AOSP JB 4.2 messaging app (sorry for no links. I'm a new user).
Can anyone confirm?

Has this issue been fixed yet? I do a lot of group texts with several different people (for my job mainly) and have been using GO SMS on an EVO3D for some time now. It doesn't work terribly (still slow though) when it is only 1 or 2 messages at a time (as long as I am in a good service area or else it doesn't work for ****) but when the messages come flying in (or god forbid I have more than 1 text chain going at once) the phone lags so badly that it is unusable. I can't see the messages and can't even get a message out because the phone is so busy processing the incoming messages. It freezes the phone until the activity settles down.
Is this a problem on ALL Android phones or is it because I have an older EVO3D? I am going to be purchasing a new phone in the near future and if group texting isn't even working on the flagship phones I am afraid I am going to have to jump ship to the iphone. Can anyone provide an update as to the status of group text on Android flagship phones?