There are several other guides in this forum for debloating the “useless” apps off of the Fire. Unfortunately, none of them really met my goals, and left me wanting more. I had several goals that I wanted to accomplish with this project.
Goals:
1. Improve the responsiveness of the Fire by removing unwanted/needed services from RAM. I have four of these for my kids, and its painful to watch my kids wait 30, 45, 60 seconds for a game to load, as the Fire churns away trying to unload services from memory.
2. Maintain the battery life. Amazon did a great job with the battery management, and I did not want to see a regression in this area.
3. Keep/be able to use certain Amazon services. Everyone has different use scenarios for using the Fire, which is why some of the other guides did not work well for me. I needed to keep some of the Amazon services working, namely the following:
a. Prime Video
b. Kindle Books
c. Audible
4. Install Google Play Services for getting other apps. I did this 3 years ago right after I got the Fires, but did not need root at the time, so they still had all the Amazon bloat on them as well.
5. Get Google Family Link working in conjunction with the Amazon services. For Family Link to work, Google Play services must be installed as system apps, which presents another problem, as the smallest (relatively current) Open Google Apps is too large to flash in TWRP, so a manual approach was needed.
6. Install a different launcher, Fire Launcher is awful. I installed Nova Launcher as a system app to easily support widgets
7. Install a different keyboard. I installed GBoard as I use it on all my Android devices and am biased.
I was able to accomplish my goals without having to make any compromises, since we now have root for this Fire.
Thanks to all who spent so much time on that. I did try the two ROM ports that are available, but they were not stable enough for a device that my kids use.
I did needed to do this on four Fires, so I wrote a script, to make it faster after the first and to ensure that they are all exactly the same to start with.
Prerequisites:
1. Fire 8 HD (2017) – other models are going to be close, but packages and dependencies will almost certainly be a little different. YMMV
2. Firmware 5.3.7.0 – Same as above, earlier versions may be close, but dependencies may be different. If you are on an older version, upgrade to the latest. Download the firmware directly Amazon to have as a backup anyway. Version 5.3.7.0 is file update-kindle-50.6.5.0_user_650601220.bin. Rename the file from a “bin” to a “zip” to flash it from TWRP.
3. Rooted – I followed the instructions in this thread. Thanks to @k4y0z for the excellent work! See post #337 for exactly what steps I used to root 5.3.7.0
4. Magisk zip for installation from TWRP. I used version 20.4, which was the latest at the time. Please note the warnings in the rooting thread regarding updating Magisk from MagiskManager.
5. I’m going to assume some level of familiarity with use an android device, using ADB, booting to recovery, enabling ADB, etc. If you don’t, google is your friend. All of the assumed knowledge is easy to acquire with a little googling.
6. Windows computer with ADB drivers for the Fire. Sorry, I wrote the script as a BATCH file, and don’t want to take the time to re-write if for Linux/macOS
7. Download the files linked in this post. I’ve provided one download and also individual links if desired.
Steps:
1. Boot Fire to Recovery
2. Format Data from TWRP
3. Copy update-kindle-50.6.5.0_user_650601220.zip and Magisk-v20.4.zip to the Fire
4. Flash the 5.3.7.0, then Magisk. Select reboot after install if wanted
5. Allow Fire to boot. This will take about 10 minutes while the Fire is “Optimizing System Storage.”
6. Enable ADB without Registering with Amazon
a. Select Language and press "Continue"
b. Select any Wifi Access Point, then press "Cancel"
c. The press "Not Now"
d. The press "Skip"
e. Now you can go to Settings > Device Options > Click on the Serial Number 7 times to enable Developer Options > Go to Developer Options > Enable ADB
f. Select box to always allow USB Debugging from this computer and select allow7. Extract the download files, and run the “Debloat.bat” script. Script will check a couple things, print some warnings, and then do the following:
a. Remove Amazon Ecosystem with the exception to the following:
i. Prime Video
ii. Kindle Book Reader
iii. Audible Booksb. 136 packages are uninstalled or disabled and hidden.
c. Uninstalled packages will also be deleted from /system, with a few exceptions
d. Install Google Play services as system apps (four apks)
e. Install Nova Launcher as a system app
f. Install GBoard to replace the default keyboard
g. Cleanup misc Icons from bloat removal
h. Set Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017) host-name to a user supplied value
i. Additional user apps can be installed at this step if desired
i. See notes in batch file for instructions
ii. Look in section :install_Other8. After the script finishes, Go to Settings > My Account to register with Amazon
9. Open Google Play and sign in using Google Account. For Family Link, use the child’s account. The setup failed once out of four times. When it failed, I just re-opened Google Play and started again and it worked fine.
Additional Notes:
• With firmware 5.3.7.0, there was about 120M of free space in /system. Afterward, there is more than 600M of free space for installing other apps if desired.
• I spent a lot of time looking at the installed apks. I evaluated each and every apk to determine if it should be removed. I looked at as many other lists as possible to see what others had learned as well. I’ve attached the spreadsheet that I used. Hopefully it will be of some use to someone else. I used a couple spreadsheets I found in this forum as my starting point. Thanks to those authors for their work and for sharing!
• I left the package names long, so I could reference exactly which package had been installed at a later date if wanted.
• See this post on why I decided to disable and hide apks that have required libraries.
• A list of all the removed apks is created in a log file - debloat_log.txt
• Performing a factory reset will NOT restore all the Amazon apps/services as most were also deleted from system.
• Amazon Backup has been removed, but the Fire can be backup to a Google account.
• I intentionally wanted to remove as much of Alexa as possible. I have good notes in the spread sheet regarding what packages to keep to keep Alexa functional.
• I also did not want Google Assistant, so I did not pursue replacing/installing Assistant.
• Battery life remains great. With wifi on and connected, screen off, battery life dropped less than 1% every 24 hours.
Links:
• Google Account Manager
• Google Services Framework
• Google Play Services
• Google Play Store
• Nova Launcher
• GBoard
• Magisk
• Amazon Firmware - Version 5.3.7.0 - SHA-1 Hash - 1313424520A1346436147C1CE591E8E58FE59E18
• Spreadsheet List of Apps
• Debloat Script - Updated 7 May 2020, validates hostname entry
• Debloat Archive (Everything needed except Magisk and Amazon firmware) - Updated 7 May 2020 to include new batch script
Well done - should serve nicely as a general template for other device types. I especially appreciate the consideration you gave to each action vs taking a 'scorched earth' approach that often yields significant gaps in functionality/usability.
Is there a way to restore back to stock after this?
turbozapekanka said:
Is there a way to restore back to stock after this?
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Yes, just flash the zip from step 4. Flashing Magisk would be optional. If you wanted to restore the stock recovery, see the root thread for instructions.
After running this script, did your DHCP still work? I've ran this script on 3 separate tablets and on all three, DHCP no longer works. I've temporarily set the Kindles up with static IP addresses, but I'm trying to figure out which package I need to exclude from the script to allow DHCP to continue working.
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After running this script, did your DHCP still work? I've ran this script on 3 separate tablets and on all three, DHCP no longer works. I've temporarily set the Kindles up with static IP addresses, but I'm trying to figure out which package I need to exclude from the script to allow DHCP to continue working.
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Yes, DHCP still works in the all four of the tablets that I ran this on.
What version of FireOS did you start with?
The script renames the hostname of the tablet. You can comment that part out and see if the same thing happens. REM out the following lines:
Code:
echo.
echo ****** Set a hostname for the Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017) ******
echo.
echo Please type a hostname
set /P hname=
echo.
echo The host name will be set to "%hname%"
echo.
set /P host_answer="Is "%hname%" correct? (Y/N) "
if "%host_answer%"=="y" goto after_host
if "%host_answer%"=="n" cls & goto set_host
cls
echo.
echo Please only enter "y" or "n")
echo.
goto :set_host
REM ** Change Fire hostname **
echo.
echo Setting the Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017) hostname to %hname% ...
echo.
.\adb\adb pull /system/build.prop
echo net.hostname=%hname% >> build.prop
echo. >> build.prop
.\adb\adb push build.prop /sdcard/
.\adb\adb shell su -c mv /sdcard/build.prop /system/
.\adb\adb shell su -c chown 0:0 /system/build.prop
.\adb\adb shell su -c chmod 644 /system/build.prop
del -f build.prop
Note that the command to remount system as read/write is in between the two code blocks, and needs to stay.
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Yes, DHCP still works in the all four of the tablets that I ran this on.
What version of FireOS did you start with?
The script renames the hostname of the tablet. You can comment that part out and see if the same thing happens. REM out the following lines:
Code:
echo.
echo ****** Set a hostname for the Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017) ******
echo.
echo Please type a hostname
set /P hname=
echo.
echo The host name will be set to "%hname%"
echo.
set /P host_answer="Is "%hname%" correct? (Y/N) "
if "%host_answer%"=="y" goto after_host
if "%host_answer%"=="n" cls & goto set_host
cls
echo.
echo Please only enter "y" or "n")
echo.
goto :set_host
REM ** Change Fire hostname **
echo.
echo Setting the Amazon Fire HD 8 (2017) hostname to %hname% ...
echo.
.\adb\adb pull /system/build.prop
echo net.hostname=%hname% >> build.prop
echo. >> build.prop
.\adb\adb push build.prop /sdcard/
.\adb\adb shell su -c mv /sdcard/build.prop /system/
.\adb\adb shell su -c chown 0:0 /system/build.prop
.\adb\adb shell su -c chmod 644 /system/build.prop
del -f build.prop
Note that the command to remount system as read/write is in between the two code blocks, and needs to stay.
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All three started with 5.3.7.0. Remarking out the hostname lines let DHCP work. Without remarking out those lines, all three tablets would sit on Obtaining an IP address until it gave up and gave the DHCP error. Anyway, all is good now. In my case, I didn't need Amazon Video, Audible, or Kindle, so I was able to remove those packages as well with no ill effects. Thanks for doing all the leg work to make this happen.
Rayvis said:
All three started with 5.3.7.0. Remarking out the hostname lines let DHCP work. Without remarking out those lines, all three tablets would sit on Obtaining an IP address until it gave up and gave the DHCP error. Anyway, all is good now. In my case, I didn't need Amazon Video, Audible, or Kindle, so I was able to remove those packages as well with no ill effects. Thanks for doing all the leg work to make this happen.
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Glad you got it working. Thanks for the feedback and letting me know.
Two more questions.
1. Can you let me know exactly what additional packages you removed for Video, Audible and Kindle?
2. Did you by chance try and use a non valid hostname in the script? I did not think about validating this entry in my script.
Valid characters for hostnames are ASCII(7) letters from a to z, the digits from 0 to 9, and the hyphen (-). A hostname may not start with a hyphen.Thanks
scoutdriver73 said:
Glad you got it working. Thanks for the feedback and letting me know.
Two more questions.
1. Can you let me know exactly what additional packages you removed for Video, Audible and Kindle?
2. Did you by chance try and use a non valid hostname in the script? I did not think about validating this entry in my script.
Valid characters for hostnames are ASCII(7) letters from a to z, the digits from 0 to 9, and the hyphen (-). A hostname may not start with a hyphen.Thanks
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1. After some research and testing, I removed the following additional packages:
com.amazon.kindle
com.amazon.kindle.cms
com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
com.amazon.whisperlink.activityview.android
com.amazon.whisperlink.core.android
com.amazon.whisperplay.contracts
amazon.speech.sim
com.amazon.alta.h2clientservice
com.amazon.device.messaging
com.audible.application.kindle
com.amazon.avod
2. It's possible that I had an invalid character in testing with the hostname. I can't remember off the top of my head what I tried to set my kid's tablet's hostnames as initially. I will test the script again on my tablet and ensure that the hostname is valid and I will report back.
updated debloat script to check hostname
Rayvis said:
1. After some research and testing, I removed the following additional packages:
com.amazon.kindle
com.amazon.kindle.cms
com.amazon.settings.systemupdates
com.amazon.whisperlink.activityview.android
com.amazon.whisperlink.core.android
com.amazon.whisperplay.contracts
amazon.speech.sim
com.amazon.alta.h2clientservice
com.amazon.device.messaging
com.audible.application.kindle
com.amazon.avod
2. It's possible that I had an invalid character in testing with the hostname. I can't remember off the top of my head what I tried to set my kid's tablet's hostnames as initially. I will test the script again on my tablet and ensure that the hostname is valid and I will report back.
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I updated the script to check/force a valid hostname. Can you test it for me? I'll update the links in the first post once I hear back. Thanks
debloat-new.bat
scoutdriver73 said:
I updated the script to check/force a valid hostname. Can you test it for me? I'll update the links in the first post once I hear back. Thanks
debloat-new.bat
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I can confirm that I must have been entering an invalid hostname previously. I had ran the original script again last night ensuring that the hostname was valid and at the end, DHCP was working fine still.
I also tested the new batch script for you and it appears to be working fine as well, minus one thing it doesn't appear to be checking for in the hostname checker. It doesn't seem to kick back hostnames that contain spaces.
Rayvis said:
I can confirm that I must have been entering an invalid hostname previously. I had ran the original script again last night ensuring that the hostname was valid and at the end, DHCP was working fine still.
I also tested the new batch script for you and it appears to be working fine as well, minus one thing it doesn't appear to be checking for in the hostname checker. It doesn't seem to kick back hostnames that contain spaces.
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Thanks for testing - I fixed the issue with the spaces. I'm updating the links in the first post. Thanks for testing for me.
How to install Disney+, Netflix...
Hi and thanks very much for your post. It's exactly what I was looking for the tablet of my children. The script is awesome, I installed it yesterday with no problems at all. Now I have a problem that maybe it's a silly question... Disney+, Netflix and other apps available at Amazon appstore are not available from Google PlayStore but as the Amazon appstore was removed... how could I install them?
Thanks in advance
marcoant said:
Hi and thanks very much for your post. It's exactly what I was looking for the tablet of my children. The script is awesome, I installed it yesterday with no problems at all. Now I have a problem that maybe it's a silly question... Disney+, Netflix and other apps available at Amazon appstore are not available from Google PlayStore but as the Amazon appstore was removed... how could I install them?
Thanks in advance
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Glad you found the scrip useful.
You could try and edit the script to keep the Amazon appstore if you have a lot of apps that you need to get from Amazon. However, that kinda defeats the purpose of what I was trying to do with the script, so I don't have any desire to assist in troubleshooting if you have problems with this route.
If you only need a to install a couple apps, then those can easily be sideloaded. Lots of info out there about how to sideload an app.
For Disney+ and Netflix, an easy solution would be to install them via the Amazon Fire Tool Box. I installed both of the apps this way on one of my kids tablets and verified that both apps did start. See attached pictures.
I hope that helps.
scoutdriver73 said:
Glad you found the scrip useful.
You could try and edit the script to keep the Amazon appstore if you have a lot of apps that you need to get from Amazon. However, that kinda defeats the purpose of what I was trying to do with the script, so I don't have any desire to assist in troubleshooting if you have problems with this route.
If you only need a to install a couple apps, then those can easily be sideloaded. Lots of info out there about how to sideload an app.
For Disney+ and Netflix, an easy solution would be to install them via the Amazon Fire Tool Box. I installed both of the apps this way on one of my kids tablets and verified that both apps did start. See attached pictures.
I hope that helps.
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Thank you very much. I'll try the Amazon Fire Tool Box. Thanks again!!!
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5010 mediante Tapatalk
marcoant said:
Thank you very much. I'll try the Amazon Fire Tool Box. Thanks again!!!
Enviado desde mi ONEPLUS A5010 mediante Tapatalk
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Sure thing!
am considering getting a Fire tablet (seem well regarded)
Stumbled across this thread
1) OS Updates. if one uses your debloat, does that stop OTA updates?
i'm assuming Amazon updates its Fire OS to pick up google security fixes, etc?
2) Alexa monitoring. Maybe this is a misrepresentation but I thought Alexa monitors what you say, etc. I thought there have been some privacy concerns about it. You mentioned tweaking Alexa functionality with your debloat. What Alexa functions have you retained? Can I stop Alexa monitoring me altogether?
Thanks,
Gary
gazzawazza said:
am considering getting a Fire tablet (seem well regarded)
Stumbled across this thread
1) OS Updates. if one uses your debloat, does that stop OTA updates?
i'm assuming Amazon updates its Fire OS to pick up google security fixes, etc?
2) Alexa monitoring. Maybe this is a misrepresentation but I thought Alexa monitors what you say, etc. I thought there have been some privacy concerns about it. You mentioned tweaking Alexa functionality with your debloat. What Alexa functions have you retained? Can I stop Alexa monitoring me altogether?
Thanks,
Gary
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1. The OTA update service has been disabled/deleted. This included security updates as well. Although, I'm not aware of Amazon pushing out any security updates for these tablets. The android base on this is 5.1, which was released in 2014, and I do not believe any security updates have been released for 5.1 since 2018.
2. If you run my script as posted, if will disable and remove all Alexa services. This includes the service which listens for the Alexa keyword. You will still find Alexa in the settings, but enabling it will not actually change anything. If you look at my spreadsheet, I did a fairly detailed analysis of all the apps, and I believe I have marked all the "apps" needed for Alexa to work if you wanted to retain that functionality.
Also, please note that this thread is specifically for the the HD8 2017 (coming up on 4 years old) and this script will certainly not work on a new Fire.
scoutdriver73 said:
1. The OTA update service has been disabled/deleted. This included security updates as well. Although, I'm not aware of Amazon pushing out any security updates for these tablets. The android base on this is 5.1, which was released in 2014, and I do not believe any security updates have been released for 5.1 since 2018.
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thanks VERY much for taking the trouble to reply.
Crumbs. Oreo. That's pretty bad. I'd have thought the code will have been been updated and refined significantly by now, not to mention, i understand that Google's either finding or being alerted to vulnerabilities in ever increasing rates.
I have confirmed that later Fire hardware does have more up to date android versions (HD 10 is on fireOS 7x - i presume 7 may align to android 7). Even that though is some distance away from current security patches, if they don't patch for the monthly bulletins.
2. If you run my script as posted, if will disable and remove all Alexa services. This includes the service which listens for the Alexa keyword. You will still find Alexa in the settings, but enabling it will not actually change anything. If you look at my spreadsheet, I did a fairly detailed analysis of all the apps, and I believe I have marked all the "apps" needed for Alexa to work if you wanted to retain that functionality.
Also, please note that this thread is specifically for the the HD8 2017 (coming up on 4 years old) and this script will certainly not work on a new Fire.
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Sorry - tbh i didn't notice the spreadsheet or think to scrutinise by app.
Thanks also for the model support warning.
Cheers,
Gary
FireOS 7 is Android version 9 (Pie), so Google is still pushing out security updates. But Amazon would then have to take the security updates and push them out to FireOS, and I don't know if they are doing this (doubtful). Updates for Android, security or otherwise, have always been a problem as it requires support from both Google and the OEM.
If security updates are high on a list of priorities, don't buy a FireOS device.
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UPDATE: Unfortunately, this won't disable OTA and the Lockscreen ads. I had an amazing stroke of luck that somehow, the uninstall command for OTA and the ads was successful on 2 of the 3 tablets I bought. With the third, it didn't take long for the ads to come back after disabling, so I spent the $15 to remove the ads. This script will still work to install Google Play Store and Launcher Hijack. Thanks to @Gilly10 and @BaronKiko for their work.
I put together this tool for my own personal use, and thought it would be helpful to many, so I'm sharing it here. I tested it both on macOS 10.13 and Windows 10 x64. I have not tested on Linux, though it should work. The only additional step you may need for Linux is to have a Linux specific ADB executable, though I would think the macOS ADB is the same.
First, I take no credit for any of this, aside from writing the script and putting together this guide, as everything here was compiled from information I found on other threads. I hope you find this useful.
Just a quick note, I ordered a 3 pack of the 2017 HD 8 tablets, and on two of them, I was able to fully uninstall Amazon OTA and Lockscreen without root access. On the third, though, I could only disable them. The end result should be the same. Also, it might be necessary to complete the initial setup of the tablet, including connecting to the internet, for this to fully work. Though this will update to FireOS 5.6.0.0, the script should work just fine, as I did the initial update on all 3 of my tablets. There is one caveat to this, however: the script may not work to disable OTA for future updates beyond 5.6.0.0. Additionally, some are reporting that the OTA is still enabled, even after the script executes. This may very well be possible, though I'm not able to test it at the moment. As a precaution, it's recommended that you install NoRoot Firewall and block the following apps:
Code:
com.amazon.device.software.ota
com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
com.amazon.kindle.kso
When running this tool, the script will install the needed files for the Google Play Store, as well as Launcher Hijack. Then the script will disable the Amazon OTA and Lockscreen packages, followed by an attempt to uninstall OTA and Lockscreen. Also, I apologize for the image sizes, for some reason they're appearing larger than the actual size.
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First, you'll need to prepare your Fire tablet before doing anything else.
Step 0: If you're running Windows, you'll need to first in stall the ADB driver (Fire_Devices ADB drivers.exe) included in the zip file. For Mac and Linux, ADB should work without any other requirements.
Step 1: Enable Developer Options. To do this, in Settings, navigate to the Device Options menu, scroll down and tap Serial Number 7 times.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Step 2: Enable ADB. After enabling Developer Options on the Device Options menu, navigate to the Developer Options menu and tick the "Enable ADB" option.
Step 3: Enable Apps from Unknown Sources. In Settings, navigate to the Security menu and tick the "Apps from Unknown Sources" option.
Step 4: Run the install script. For Windows, simply double-click on "install.bat." For both macOS and Linux variants, in the terminal, navigate to the folder where you unziped the tool, and run the following command:
Code:
sh install.sh
After the script completes successfully (you will probably get an error when the script attempts to uninstall the Amazon OTA and Lockscreen apps), you may chose to reboot your Kindle Fire at this point, though it isn't absolutely necessary.
Step 5: Run Google Play Store. At first, it may take a little patience. If you get a blank white screen, exit the app and try again. Once Google Play Store is set up with your Google account, you're ready for the next step.
Step 6: Install Launcher. Before you're able to have the option to enable the Home Button, you'll need to install a launcher from the Play Store. I prefer Nova Launcher, but of course, you're free to use whatever launcher you prefer. After installing a launcher, you'll need to open the launcher. IF YOU DON'T OPEN THE LAUNCHER AFTER INSTALLING, THE OPTION TO DETECT THE HOME BUTTON WILL BE UNAVAILABLE.
Step 7: Enable Detect Home Button Press. Open Settings and navigate to the Accessibility menu. Scroll down to Services, and tap the option "To detect home button press."
Step 8: Set Home Launcher. This step may be unnecessary, depending on what launcher you choose. If Launcher Hijack doesn't redirect home button presses to the new launcher you installed, you may need to open the Launcher Hijack app and select your launcher.
If you've done everything correctly, your Kindle Fire HD should feel almost just like any other Android tablet.
This is super - thanks for the tool and post
Can we make this back? What if we want to get the amazon system/settings back?
And how we can change the Lock screen pics?
Third: Thank You very much! It works on HD 10 (2017).
gtrombitas said:
Can we make this back? What if we want to get the amazon system/settings back?
And how we can change the Lock screen pics?
Third: Thank You very much! It works on HD 10 (2017).
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Ok, answer myself:
1. To make this all back, simply restore factory defaults.
2. Lock screen: i made a factory restore, then didnt came the ads. So my lockscreen is now, what my wallpaper is.
3. Thanks again! Works perfect.
Glad it's working for you guys. Yes, to restore original apps, simply do a factory reset.
Just out of curiosity, did the tool successfully uninstall the apps for anyone else?
pastorbennett said:
Just out of curiosity, did the tool successfully uninstall the apps for anyone else?
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Yep, got it working on both a HD 10 and an HD 8, using Windows 7. Great script that should really be pinned, thanks.
This works great! Thanks so much. I do feel I've become victim of a problem others have reported before - I signed in to the playstore with my own account vs letting the friend I'm gifting my Fire to do this. Any idea how I can safely sign out without having to reset the device and redo this entire process over?
Sjado said:
This works great! Thanks so much. I do feel I've become victim of a problem others have reported before - I signed in to the playstore with my own account vs letting the friend I'm gifting my Fire to do this. Any idea how I can safely sign out without having to reset the device and redo this entire process over?
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I would install your preferred launcher so that Launcher Hijack can detect the home button, then simply go into settings and delete the data for all the Google apps. You shouldn't have to uninstall any of the apps or wipe the device. If you want to be sure that clearing the data on the Google apps worked, the next time you run the Play Store, it should ask you to login.
Did it this afternoon and was very happy to be able to avoid OTA Updates....until it just downloaded an update and installed it while charging. The command window said it was successful in disabling OTA updates but failed to delete. Up until today I have only connected it to a router with no internet access to avoid an update...too late now.
Yes I followed the instructions carefully and for clarification my 2017 HD8 (purchased black Friday) went form 5.4.0.1 to 5.6.0.0
braddubya said:
Did it this afternoon and was very happy to be able to avoid OTA Updates....until it just downloaded an update and installed it while charging. The command window said it was successful in disabling OTA updates but failed to delete. Up until today I have only connected it to a router with no internet access to avoid an update...too late now.
Yes I followed the instructions carefully and for clarification my 2017 HD8 (purchased black Friday) went form 5.4.0.1 to 5.6.0.0
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No worries, just run the script after the update. I should have clarified in the initial post that you need to complete initial setup via internet on the tablet before running the script. All 3 of my 2017 HD 8 tablets were updated to 5.6.0.0 before I put together this script.
I'm guessing that there's something in the initial setup app that triggered an update somehow once the tablet was connected to the internet. I don't know enough about the underlying architecture of the FireOS to explain how the update came through.
Figured as much so to be safe did a factory reset and went through the process again. I will keep updating this thread if more develops. If it stops the next update I will be very happy. It does still work fine at 5.6.0.0.
Thank you for the script, it was really easy. Working great now my new Fire HD 8 2017.
However, is there a way to disable/remove Amazon Bloatware?
Thanks for the script pastorbennett. For newbie like me it Kindle arena it was really helpful. Everyone are talking how to do this or that via abd shell, but I wasn't able to find the first steps where is explained what is abd and how to use it. With your script, you are making this whole process flawless, so thanks again.
Unfortunately, the script wasn't able to uninstall the OTA and the Lockscreen, and I can see offers on the lockscreen. I run the second part of the script one more time, but no success. So, is there a way to check if the OTA service is disabled?
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By the way, I just installed NoRoot Firewall and in Access Log I can see many DeviceSoftwareOTA, System Update network requests.
That makes me thinking that disablement of OTA via abd shell is not working. What is your experience guys? Is there any way to confirm?
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I would install your preferred launcher so that Launcher Hijack can detect the home button, then simply go into settings and delete the data for all the Google apps. You shouldn't have to uninstall any of the apps or wipe the device. If you want to be sure that clearing the data on the Google apps worked, the next time you run the Play Store, it should ask you to login.
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Unfortunately did this not work. The only thing this does is for me to see the pop-up box to accept/decline the Google Play store terms while still locked with my Google account I'll go and do a wipe before I gift this for Christmas, unless you have other suggestions?
beckoto said:
[/COLOR]By the way, I just installed NoRoot Firewall and in Access Log I can see many DeviceSoftwareOTA, System Update network requests.
That makes me thinking that disablement of OTA via abd shell is not working. What is your experience guys? Is there any way to confirm?
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This is what worries me. With OS 5.4.0.1 it said it successfully disabled OTA updates and it still updated. I am concerned it will just update again once they push a new version.
Checking the tablet again just now my lock screen ads returned so it seems only the Google play store worked successfully long term.
I don't mean to seem ungrateful to the OP as I appreciate the effort and script, but I feel that it is important to report when there is a problem so that it may be solved in the future.
I'll run the script again and cross my fingers but being the 4th or 5th time now it seems to only disable the Amazon junk temporarily.
beckoto said:
Thanks for the script pastorbennett. For newbie like me it Kindle arena it was really helpful. Everyone are talking how to do this or that via abd shell, but I wasn't able to find the first steps where is explained what is abd and how to use it. With your script, you are making this whole process flawless, so thanks again.
Unfortunately, the script wasn't able to uninstall the OTA and the Lockscreen, and I can see offers on the lockscreen. I run the second part of the script one more time, but no success. So, is there a way to check if the OTA service is disabled?
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By the way, I just installed NoRoot Firewall and in Access Log I can see many DeviceSoftwareOTA, System Update network requests.
That makes me thinking that disablement of OTA via abd shell is not working. What is your experience guys? Is there any way to confirm?
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Hmm, that's odd that you're still seeing offers on the lockscreen offers. Did the script show that it succeeded at disabling the lockscreen, and did the Google apps successfully install? If not, there's a chance your computer isn't seeing the tablet through adb. To check if adb is functioning, go to the folder where you unzipped the tool, and from the command line type adb devices (or ./adb devices for macOS and Linux). If it reports a device, the script should work, in theory. If adb doesn't report that it sees your device, I'll try to help you troubleshoot the problem as best I can.
This is a prime example of how difficult software development can be. I'm not a developer, just a tinkerer who's been around the block a few times, and for some reason, with some devices, the same process can be used on two identical devices with two separate results. Just as an example, with the 3 devices I got for my kids for Christmas, two of them actually uninstalled the Amazon OTA and Lockscreen apps, while on the third it didn't. Yet, with the third, it did indeed disable the lockscreen, and I even rebooted several times just to be sure. This is just one of those anomalies that can happen with Android devices.
The idea of using NoRoot Firewall is good advice for blocking the OTA. I'll add that recommendation to the OP.
braddubya said:
This is what worries me. With OS 5.4.0.1 it said it successfully disabled OTA updates and it still updated. I am concerned it will just update again once they push a new version.
Checking the tablet again just now my lock screen ads returned so it seems only the Google play store worked successfully long term.
I don't mean to seem ungrateful to the OP as I appreciate the effort and script, but I feel that it is important to report when there is a problem so that it may be solved in the future.
I'll run the script again and cross my fingers but being the 4th or 5th time now it seems to only disable the Amazon junk temporarily.
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I'm sorry to hear that. I haven't had any time to toy around with the tablets, they're waiting for final preparations before Christmas (they're for my kids). On two of the three, it completely uninstalled the lockscreen and OTA. On the third, it wouldn't for some reason. It's truly mind-boggling. I wonder if using NoRoot Firewall to block access to the three apps that the script attempts to disable/uninstall would rectify the problem with the lockscreen ads. Let me know if that does anything, or if again running the commands from the last half of the script does anything.
I think , the others did it a little bit wrong.
1 restore.
2 start, don't connect to internet (after one try, the skip button appears), and so you don't sign in to Amazon
3 there is no chance to become ads. Now, run the script from this site!
That's it.
gtrombitas said:
I think , the others did it a little bit wrong.
1 restore.
2 start, don't connect to internet (after one try, the skip button appears), and so you don't sign in to Amazon
3 there is no chance to become ads. Now, run the script from this site!
That's it.
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Yes, I think so.
I've received my HD8 pre-registered with stock 5.4.1.0 and have to turned-off the wi-fi connection before it completed the update procedure to brakes a download for a moment. Then I've de-registered the device.
Installation of Google features and Launcher on 5.4.1.0 with this scripts has sucess, but OTA was not disabled.
The device have completed self-update procedure after that, but Google features and Launcher still works, as a Morelocale feature i have installed before.
As for the ads, I have no ads on de-registered device, but I'm in Ukraine now, so it may affect the ads too.
Running the script on 5.6.0.0 again was partially success:
Code:
Disabling Amazon OTA and Lockscreen
Success
Success
Success
Attempting to Uninstall Amazon OTA and Lockscreen
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
Failure [DELETE_FAILED_INTERNAL_ERROR]
But I'm not sure, the OTA is actually disabled. Anyway, we still have no options yet.
i tried doing the install but kept getting adb not recognized installed the drivers 3 times and nothing changes?
Hi guys. Now that we have root for the 2017 fire tablet HD, let's share the best apps, tweaks, mods, modules, optimizations etc to get the most out of the tablet.
I just rooted my HD 10 and think this thread is a great idea.
The first thing I usually do after getting root is to install AdAway to block most ads:
https://f-droid.org/repo/org.adaway_56.apk
I want use Nova as the default launcher. Is there a way to disable or uninstall the Fire launcher completely with root? The Hijackthis utility kind of works, but once in a while the Fire launcher will still show when pressing the home button.
Update: I found out how to disable the Fire launcher following the instructions from this thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/development/tips-tricks-root-t3310569
It appears that many of the tips for the older gen HD 10 tablets also apply to the 2017 model. The thread I mentioned in my previous post has instructions on how to disable Fire launcher and Amazon service that are safe to disable via adb. Also I recommend installing Google Play and disabling OTA services using the script in this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tool-disables-ota-lockscreen-install-t3715320
I also installed some of my favorite root apps such as Titanium Backup and Kernel Adiutor. Also grabbed modded Youtube with no ads (non-root) here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71133073&postcount=3
How do we disable all Amazon apps that aren't necessary to get the fastest, smoothest user experience?
Is there a way to change the lock screen and replace it with one that supports pattern unlock instead of a PIN?
Is there a way to permanently disable all Amazon system apps that may launch at startup and run in the background? I want to disable them to get maximum speed and performance from the device. Maybe what we could do is find an app that shows us what's currently running in the background and using up ram, and then figure out a way to permanently disable and or Uninstall them.
These are the system processes that I found running. There are quite a few Amazon-related processes here. Have a look.
The Amazon-related process that I've identified are:
Wake Word Service
System UI
Amazon Metrics Server Application
Fire Content Manager Service
Here Positioning
Precog
Identity mobile platform
Fire Amazon platform
Fire Amazon communication services
Audio stream provider service
Amazon webview metric services
Whisperplay daemon
Documents
Content support manager
Amazon device settings
Crash monitor
Documents
Read the posts in this thread (started by DragonFire1024) to get an idea about what can (not) be uninstalled.
We just gained root, and we do not yet have a reliable method to backup/restore partitions. I would urge you to err on the side of caution and, if you really have to, just control the apps that autorun. You can use the startup manager in ROM Toolbox Lite or All-In-One Toolbox to find out what's running at boot.
Before you start, backup your apps+data using TiBu.
Have you tested the recovery procedure detailed in this post? What's your fallback option if your 10 HD gets bricked? All things considered, a reasonably snappy tablet running some bloat is better than a brick you can't recover from.
These are the apps that I currently have installed on my fire tablet. Feel free to share your apps, too!
Guys,
So I'm using the free version of nova launcher, and one thing that I don't like is that I don't get app notifications. For example, if I get a like on Facebook or a message on Facebook messenger, there's no notification alerting you. Usually you'd see like a "1" on the app icon signaling that there's one new message. Apparently that's because I'm using the free version of nova launcher and the paid version has this functionality built in. I don't want to buy the paid version only to have it not work. Can anyone confirm that the paid version of nova launcher will give me notifications on the app icons, or is this just not supported on fire OS?
*UPDATE*
I think these things are called "badges".
I have rooted my Fire HD 10 2017, installed SuperSU and now of course it does not pass safety net anymore
As I was playing some games from Google Play on the tab, this kind of annoys me, but is no dealbreaker at all.
Has anybody made some experience with hiding root / magisk or something else on the Fire HD 10?
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
androingo said:
i had posted this information on the main 'rooted fire hd 10 7th generation' thread already but thought it was quite useful regarding nova launcher, playstore and using a child profle:
if you want to use use widgets with nova launcher, just convert nova to a system app. the easiest way i found to achieve this is using the link2sd app.
to use google playstore in a different user profile (e.g. parent profile with child restrictions, as i don't like the freetime child profile) you can also convert playstore to a system app (and clear dalvik dalvik cache,also with link2sd). it showed up in the fire launcher on the other profile right after a reboot. just needed to log in again.
maybe you can use it on a freetime profile as well like that (launch it from GoToApp), but i won't try it out now.
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I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
Once I got root I put adaway, titanium backup, modded pandora. I also put on the viperaudio. Can do that by adding busybox via https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.busybox&hl=en
and you'll also need to use something to set selinux to passive for viper to work. I did this by installing Kernal Auditor https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=en
I used Kernel Adiutor to emulate init.d and used the below script and it works to make it permissive on boot and viper driver shows enabled to confirm it
#!/system/bin/sh
setenforce 0
razers7t8 said:
I will test this out today and let you know if I got it to work. The only thing is, I don't have a child profile, I have a secondary adult profile.
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The play store hack didn't work for me after following your instructions regarding link2sd. The play store doesn't appear on my other login account.
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
androingo said:
hm, that is strange. i did two other things before i had root:
trying to install the 4 apks on the other profile, but only the first 2 could be installed: com.google.android.gsf.login.apk and com.google.android.gsf.apk.
and i entered the following command via adb in the main profile:
adb shell pm grant com.google.android.gms android.permission.INTERACT_ACROSS_USERS
but ony after coverting all of the 4 required apks to system apps it worked. did you convert all 4?
if not, maybe one of the steps before make the difference?
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Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
razers7t8 said:
Oh. That must have been what I did wrong. I only converted the play store apk to a system file. I'll do the other three now.
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Well now the play store shows up on the other login, but when I tap on it, nothing happens. Also, in link2sd, there's no option to clear "dalvik cache." Only "clear cache" which I did.
I notice that ever since I turned the 4 Google apps into system apps with link2sd, my Facebook app no longer works. It gets stuck in the screen.:
*****UPDATE APRIL 5, 2018 - This guide will activate the FULL Google Assistant!***** USE THIS GOOGLE APP AS OF DECEMBER 8 2018, https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...oogle-app-8-33-6-21-arm-android-apk-download/
Many of you probably recall my last guide on getting 'ok Google' to work. Well Sort of: How to guide: Enable 'ok Google' to work from ANY screen. You may also recall it was a bit of work to get it working and the downside was the modifications didn't hold after a reboot, assuming the system didn't shut the service down first. So I put the project on hold until I could figure it out.
Well it's been 6 months and I am happy to report I have found a permanent solution which will activate the FULL Google Assistant on ANY non-rooted or rooted Amazon device. All we will do today is make a few small edits within the settings of FireOS. The modifications WILL survive reboots!
If you are using Alexa, you will Have to disable it and install the latest version of the Google App located at this link. Make sure to also have Google Play Services installed.
****WARNING: THE FOLLOWING APPLICATION IS VERY POWERFUL. MAKING THE WRONG EDITS CAN RESULT IN A POTENTIAL, UNRECOVERABLE BRICK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE YOU DO TO YOUR DEVICES.****
1. You can download Settings Database Editor, install it and make the edits within that application (not recommended) or you can follow along with me and we'll use ADB. But if you do choose the application, you need to grant it the proper permission. Please plug your tablet into your PC and open an ADB window and type the following line below:
Code:
adb shell pm grant by4a.setedit22 android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
2. Open Settings Database Editor. You will see three choices at the top: system, secure and global. Please, ONLY select 'secure'.
3. Scroll all the way to the bottom and you will see:
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voice_interaction_service
voice_recognition_service
4. Tap on voice_interaction_service. A window will pop up that says 'edit setting'. Delete any text currently in the window if there is any and type the text below into it with NO SPACES:
Code:
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voiceinteraction.GsaVoiceInteractionService
OR use ADB:
Code:
adb shell settings put secure voice_interaction_service com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voiceinteraction.GsaVoiceInteractionService
5. Tap on voice_recognition_service. A window will pop up that says 'edit setting'. Delete any text currently in the window if there is any and type the text below into it with NO SPACES:
Code:
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voicesearch.serviceapi.GoogleRecognitionService
OR use ADB:
Code:
adb shell settings put secure voice_recognition_service com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voicesearch.serviceapi.GoogleRecognitionService
6. Scroll all the way back to the top of Settings Database Editor. At the very top of the list, tap 'Add new setting'. For the first entry type:
Code:
assistant
and tap 'save changes.' Now type in in the second entry:
Code:
com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox/com.google.android.voiceinteraction.GsaVoiceInteractionService
and save changes.
7. In the list, locate the setting
Code:
alexa_enabled
and tap on it. Change the number from a 1 to 0 and save changes.
That's it. You should be done! Now reboot your tablet using ADB:
Code:
adb reboot
8. Now it's time to configure your Assistant. Open the Google App. > Tap three lines on bottom right corner > Settings > Voice > 'Ok Google Detection' > Set the preferences to your liking. You will have to train your voice model so make sure you do that first. When done, tap back twice. Make sure your search language is set to English and your search region is The United States. See the next step as to why.
9. Go here and download the Google Assistant APK, install it and open it. You will get a message saying your device isn't compatible with Assistant, but that's ok. Installing the APK will ensure your tablet receives the proper upgrades when Assistant is made available for 5.0 devices.
I hope everyone enjoys this! I am so excited to get this working
Thanks, great job! I can confirm it works great on Fire HD 8 OS 5.6.0.1. I even think the microphone is more responsive with this method. Yes, Google Assistant is somewhat more limited on Lollipop, but it's still useful anyway.
I used the Settings Database Editor app. It's not "scary" if you follow the directions. It makes me wonder what more can be done to this little tablet to make it more "root-like" with Settings Database Editor and ADB.
Thanks!
wcarlson40 said:
Thanks, great job! I can confirm it works great on Fire HD 8 OS 5.6.0.1. I even think the microphone is more responsive with this method. Yes, Google Assistant is somewhat more limited on Lollipop, but it's still useful anyway.
I used the Settings Database Editor app. It's not "scary" if you follow the directions. It makes me wonder what more can be done to this little tablet to make it more "root-like" with Settings Database Editor and ADB.
Thanks!
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I'll be making a thread sometime soon on the tweaks I've been able to come up with. For not having root, it's pretty impressive.
Awesome bro.
I'm using fire 8 in India, they have disabled Alexa based on location. If I change my Amazon account location to US, I get Alexa. But, changing back the location to India, disables Alexa again. Alexa option won't be visible in the settings menu.
Do you think, is there anything I can edit in settings app to get Alexa?
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DragonFire1024 said:
I'll be making a thread sometime soon on the tweaks I've been able to come up with. For not having root, it's pretty impressive.
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Can't wait
DragonFire1024 said:
I'll be making a thread sometime soon on the tweaks I've been able to come up with. For not having root, it's pretty impressive.
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That would be awesome, as I couldn't find much other info at all about this app and its uses.
There also seems to be a whole bunch of AOSP settings hidden in the software you obviously can't use, such as mobile networks, GPS, and the LED notification light.
Tweaks I have done so far:
Toggle either full or partial immersive mode in certain apps
Remove lockscreen ads (doesn't work in 5.6)
Nothing else I tried yet I couldn't already do in the regular settings app.
DragonFire1024 said:
I'll be making a thread sometime soon on the tweaks I've been able to come up with. For not having root, it's pretty impressive.
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You never fail to impress
This worked for me but some functionality is missing. If I say "Okay Google, set a timer for [x] minutes." It will just do a Google search for those words. It doesn't automatically open up the Clock app and start the timer. This is with the default Clock app disabled and the Google Clocl app installed.
autobulb said:
This worked for me but some functionality is missing. If I say "Okay Google, set a timer for [x] minutes." It will just do a Google search for those words. It doesn't automatically open up the Clock app and start the timer. This is with the default Clock app disabled and the Google Clocl app installed.
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In the past few weeks I learned that unless the app is actually uninstalled, the system still recognizes it as an app. THis will be as close to the assistant as we get, until it's rolled out to all of Lollipop devices. Also, without Gapps being part of /system/priv-app, a lot of the functionality won't be possible. However, I do see to recall the voice assistant working for the alarm, or basic system functions. It could be possible, that Google stopped that function to lollipop devices or it's just simply mucked by one, or Amazon patched it as well.
Assistant now fully working
Been checking daily whether launching the assistant shortcut would work. Yesterday night it went from assistant not available on this device to Google assistant is not your chosen assistant. After following this guide and rebooting now I have full Google assistant with home control etc!
xperia709 said:
Been checking daily whether launching the assistant shortcut would work. Yesterday night it went from assistant not available on this device to Google assistant is not your chosen assistant. After following this guide and rebooting now I have full Google assistant with home control etc!
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Does this include the full assistant you get in 6.0+?
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I also just got the full Google Assistant yesterday afternoon. It appears to be the same as what's on 6.0+ tablets.
lakitu47 said:
I also just got the full Google Assistant yesterday afternoon. It appears to be the same as what's on 6.0+ tablets.
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This is great. It looks like they likely finally rolled it out to Lollipop devices. Let's hope it isn't another mistake!
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DragonFire1024 said:
Does this include the full assistant you get in 6.0+?
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Yup, the full assistant experience. I have google's clock, play music, spotify installed, works with all of them just like on normal 6.0+
Bet they're enabling server side for all tablets now 5.1+ and above, even though the page still says 6.0+ on google's site. Wake word seems to work with screen on but not off. Still so much better than alexa. You also lose the long press home to activate, tried using a nav button app on xposed but that ended up breaking the framework and I almost couldn't use the tablet.
xperia709 said:
Yup, the full assistant experience. I have google's clock, play music, spotify installed, works with all of them just like on normal 6.0+
Bet they're enabling server side for all tablets now 5.1+ and above, even though the page still says 6.0+ on google's site. Wake word seems to work with screen on but not off. Still so much better than alexa. You also lose the long press home to activate, tried using a nav button app on xposed but that ended up breaking the framework and I almost couldn't use the tablet.
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There are a few edits in the framework that fix that and allow for the home button to long press to the Installed assistant app. I forget where though. When I get home I'll look through my notes and find it once I set this up again. With root it's a fairly easy fix.
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Confirmed. Appears the FULL assistant is now available using my original methods. However it requires only the first 2 ADB commands to get everything working. This also works on Fire Launcher which makes this even more glorious.
I haven't had luck with this for the 8" HD as far as the full functionality goes. Now that Alexa works hands-free for it, I don't see it as a big deal but it works great for the 10", though
dondraper23 said:
I haven't had luck with this for the 8" HD as far as the full functionality goes. Now that Alexa works hands-free for it, I don't see it as a big deal but it works great for the 10", though
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Tested it in HD 8 and worked perfectly. Haven't tried it on my HD 10 yet.
Side note: I've tried this on other 5.1 devices, not from Amazon, and it doesn't work. So this is likely a fluke from and update to the Google app. The other suggestion would be to try the beta APK. I started on a fresh FireOS 5.4.0.0 and downloaded play services and Google beta APK. Not sure if that makes a difference or not. None the less, get it while you can if you can
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DragonFire1024 said:
Tested it in HD 8 and worked perfectly. Haven't tried it on my HD 10 yet.
Side note: I've tried this on other 5.1 devices, not from Amazon, and it doesn't work. So this is likely a fluke from and update to the Google app. The other suggestion would be to try the beta APK. I started on a fresh FireOS 5.4.0.0 and downloaded play services and Google beta APK. Not sure if that makes a difference or not. None the less, get it while you can if you can
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I'm sure I just did something wrong then cuz all I was getting was a google search everytime I tried to get it to work with the 8HD. I'll give it another go on Sunday
keep getting this error at step 1... wish there was a bat or something I could download for this
C:\platform-tools>adb shell pm grant by4a.setedit22 android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
Bad argument: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unknown package: by4a.setedit22
lovemesomeandroidyo said:
keep getting this error at step 1... wish there was a bat or something I could download for this
C:\platform-tools>adb shell pm grant by4a.setedit22 android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
Bad argument: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unknown package: by4a.setedit22
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To use ADB, you MUST have USB debugging enabled in developer options.
If you're using Windows, make sure you use Command Prompt (cmd.exe) instead of PowerShell.
Open a command prompt window in the location of the Platform Tools. Type in "ADB shell" first, then wait for it to connect. You may need to allow debugging from your computer on your tablet from a pop-up dialog. Then type in the rest of the command starting at "pm grant" after [email protected][device codename].
EXTREME DEBLOAT
Code:
I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
thermonuclear war, asphyxiation due to lack of Oxygen,
ColorOS and OxygenOS migration,
existential crisis,
or you getting fired because the alarm app failed.
YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
Hi!
First of all, this debloat.txt is heavily based on the work of SirTAVARES, but since his thread is no longer available i thought i might improve it and share.
This debloat file will wipe out almost everything from your phone. I use this debloat for daily usage and i don't see any problems.
Android 11
Support for Android 11 is discontinued.Get the v1.4 list here for Android 11 if the attachment below does not work.
v1.4 - Tested with rooted OnePlus 9 running OxygenOS 11.2.9.9 LE25BA, Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 2 and crDroid 20210716 build.
Known issues:
- If you have a WiFi network saved, using this debloat will make your phone forget the network.
Fix: If you connect to the network after using these, it won't forget it again.
- Phone lags for 10 seconds and a message with "Settings isn't responding" shows up whenever you open/go back to Bluetooth & Device Connection setting. However if you tap on "Wait" it'll go away, the setting will open and no problem. AFAIK it does not affect the actual functionalities of the settings.
*Changelog*
v1.0 - Release
v1.1 - Added oemtcma, Factory Mode, and Factory Mode Specialtest to the list.
v1.2 - [Comptible with up to OOS 11.2.7.7] Added Cloud Services, Charging Pilar, OnePlus Roaming, Membership, Secure Payment (experimental), Work-Life Balance to the list.
v1.21 - [Comptible with Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 1] Added Abstruct from Paranoid Android.
v1.3 - [Comptible with Paranoid Android Ruby Alpha 2] Added Paranoid FaceSense to the list (experimental)
v1.4 - [Comptible with latest crDroid & OOS up to 11.2.9.9] Added LogCat, Jelly, Calendar, AudioFX, crDroid Music, Updater, Omni stuff, and some other apps to the list.
[DISCONTINUED]
Android 12v2.1 - Tested with rooted OnePlus 9 running OxygenOS 12.C60, LineageOS 19.1 (2022.06.12 build), and AOSPA Sapphire Beta (2022.06.11 build), and Pixel Extended 5.0 (2022.10.04 build)Get the list here if the attachment below does not work.
Yes, it's extreme. I use this for my liking, check the list before uninstalling!
Use at your own risk!
Features:
- Over 100 apps removed. Contains debloat for Google, OnePlus, and other apps
- Experimental Debloat:
GPS & Location
Always-on Display
- Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store if you accidentally removed something you didn't want to
(I recommend using the latest platform-tools for ADB)
Usage:
- Turn on USB Debugging
- In cmd type adb devices, and allow adb authorization on device
- Type adb shell
- (Optional) Type su
- Copy & paste the lines starting with "pm uninstall" to the cmd and press Enter. (You can select all or one-by-one too)
- Reboot & Enjoy
For reinstalling accidentally removed apps, try using
adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name>
To do list:
Find other apps to remove
Known issues:
- Same as Android 11, see above
*Changelog*
v2.0 - Update to Android / OOS 12
v2.1 - [Comptible with latest LineageOS, AOSPA & OOS up to 12.C60] Added apps for OOS, LOS and AOSPA debloat.
v2.11 - Removed DocumentsUI from the list. (Some app depends on it)
v2.2 - [Comptible with Pixel Extended Android 13] Added Security stuff from Google to the list (i find it annoying). Removed Styles & wallpaper as some ROM customization depends on it.
*This could work with other devices with OOS / PA / crDroid running. Try and let me know*
First bit of development for our beloved op9. Fantastic
why llist all those app in your other stuff section? samsung, omnirom, mii, and various other OEM apps not on any OP phone. did you forget to clean up from a list? that paired with using pm uninstall instead of disable doesn't scream "run my script with confidence"
you say "Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store " but , not only is thats not true. many are OEM, you extreme debloating almost everything google but keep play store and services?, GPS, AR core,, location services and even webviewer. uninstalling the webviewer will break a a few settings that rely on it, as well as any application that decides to call on it for web content. webviewer is something that should be replaced, not removed.
just root and use magisk moduals made just for desires like that. google replicates uninstalled apps to the secondary slot for reboots in A11, thats why terminal de-bloater tricks it by removing the program but keeping files in the place google checks before deciding to repair itself.
PS check out ADB AppControl with built in de bloating. even offers to backup the programs for you prior (not the data, just apk but its better than nothing)
lastly, i tried to address your flair usage of how-to guide and authoritive writing but re-reading what i said just made me sound like a jerk. i just see someone googling this in the future and getting screwed, by them. Dont be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure about something and workshop initial builds with other members before throwing it out there as a guide.
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why llist all those app in your other stuff section? samsung, omnirom, mii, and various other OEM apps not on any OP phone. did you forget to clean up from a list? that paired with using pm uninstall instead of disable doesn't scream "run my script with confidence"
you say "Almost everything can be downloaded from the Play Store " but , not only is thats not true. many are OEM, you extreme debloating almost everything google but keep play store and services?, GPS, AR core,, location services and even webviewer. uninstalling the webviewer will break a a few settings that rely on it, as well as any application that decides to call on it for web content. webviewer is something that should be replaced, not removed.
just root and use magisk moduals made just for desires like that. google replicates uninstalled apps to the secondary slot for reboots in A11, thats why terminal de-bloater tricks it by removing the program but keeping files in the place google checks before deciding to repair itself.
PS check out ADB AppControl with built in de bloating. even offers to backup the programs for you prior (not the data, just apk but its better than nothing)
lastly, i tried to address your flair usage of how-to guide and authoritive writing but re-reading what i said just made me sound like a jerk. i just see someone googling this in the future and getting screwed, by them. Dont be afraid to ask questions when you are unsure about something and workshop initial builds with other members before throwing it out there as a guide.
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1. You don't need to use it, all i can say is that because it works for me, i thought i'd share it.
2. "Almost" means most of them, of course there are some that cannot be downloaded.
3. I clearly state in the file that removing stuff can be risky, i didn't say that it can be used with confidence
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
AxelM said:
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
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The phone works normally without it, and because i don't use it this list will remove those apps.
You can try using adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name> to reinstall them.
AxelM said:
Mh, always, when I use it, the abdroid calendar storage is no longer available...any ideas? And my calendar app stopps working...
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this is the situation i was trying to show concern about arising. part of me sympathizes with users who just want better performance and what not and I still do feel OP should have worded this less vague and authoritative because I feel most replies will be from users who assume this is a fleshed out guide and not something slapped together hastily and contains some mis-truths, applicable situations and errors.
That all being said, OP did title it extreme debloat, which is a pretty clear and easy to comprehend so anyone just running this without a considerable understanding of what it does or how it does it is just shooting themselves on the foot.
Don't run extreme de-bloats blindly and don't assume what one user is fine with removing is what you'll be ok with. Also, dont run pm uninstall on anything unless you are 100% sure you know exactly what it is, you will never need it again and if so, know how to install it again. pm disable exists for a reason and more should be aware of it.
If you find yourself habitually dealing with situaitons of something you need or not working, you should probably reinstall the OS. this is a extreme debloat and removes many things that arent easy to just reinstall on their own. (cant state this enough, OP did title it extreme debloat)
If people still want to run this and arent 100% sure they want to commit to the same level of debloat as OP, do yourselves a favor and copy the commands into a word processor and find and replace pm uninstall with pm disable-user --user 0.
OP says "
For reinstall accidentally removed apps, use
adb shell cmd package install-existing <package_name>"
but did you make a copy of the apk before running the script? do you know where its located to point the command to? many of the apks this removes arent even accessible without root folder access. some also cant just be downloaded so if you need something back, you will more than likely be reinstalling the OS.
OP, unless you enjoy replying to people asking how to get "X" back or wondering why "Y" is gone, maybe re-word some things and clarify some of the comments you made. Im not out here trying to belittle you or make you feel any type of way. i guarantee theres millions of things you know and do better than i and thats amazing, thats what makes people coming together and working on outcomes so awesome. or if you are someone who sees anyone offering suggestions/corrections as a personal attack and just want to run a thread with you constantly on the defensive, thats fine too. I really am just trying to prevent people breaking their phones (regaurdless if they deserve it or not becuse, in the end, its titled extreme debloat, come on people lol)
@applyscience: I totally understand your concerns. I checked all the names of the the unistalled files beforehand, but misinterpreted this one. It costs me some time, but fortunatly I work with titanium and so I was able within 3h to get everything to normal.
@_MartyMan_ : I just change the code to my goals and now everything works fine.
Did you know the code, where the files are just frozen, because than you can try it out first and than delete them...
just use
[TOOL] ADB AppControl 1.8.0 🚀 Ultimate App Manager & Debloat Tool + Tweaks
ADB AppControl 🚀 Root is not required. Works with any Android device. Can do almost everything you dreamed about with applications. ADB AppControl - the desktop program, that will allow you to easily manage applications on your android device...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks for the list, OP. Always nice to have a breakdown of the debloat apps.
Just as a suggestion to those who do not want to uninstall and feel more comfortable just disabling the apps, you can replace the first part of the commands in the ADB script from:
Code:
pm uninstall --user 0
to:
Code:
pm disable-user
Doing this will also save the state of the app even after doing an OS update.
@_MartyMan
THANK YOU for this guide. I'm rocking the OP 9 5g Pro. My first Oneplus device I decided upon because Facebook does NOT ship with it. And the camera.
As a root enthusiast (Privacy concerns), removing the absolute trash apps embedded in carrier-sponsored Android in the U.S. MUST be done before my device gets it's data turned on.
And your delightful list (All Uninstall) is just what I needed. None of the apps I deleted are ever going to be needed in my life.
Slightly more privacy, and my battery idled on 100% for 5 hours.
I'm off to F-Droid for my usual lineup.
Thank You Again!!!
Updated for OOS 12
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
RonnieDoitch said:
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
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I'm unsure. Your correct looked it up it's Zen mode your probably fine. I uninstalled Zen mode through titanium it shows this now.
RonnieDoitch said:
Does this actually remove the package/application from the phone, i.e. I get the storage space back that the app was taking up? Or does it only disable the app from 'user 0' and the storage space is unnaffected? I want to permanently remove some packages and so far everything I have seen regarding ADB is that it doesnt remove the pacakge/app, it merely disables it from the primary user.
I am considering rooting and using TWRP or Magisk to permanently remove the packages, but if ADB actually removes them, and I get my storage space back, then I will stick to ADB.
Also, why not remove com.oneplus.brickmode? Its OnePlus's Zen Mode as far as I can tell and is completely worthless. If I am wrong please correct me so I can re-enable this package.
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It's still there, it's only removed for the current user. All i know is that is does not show up in Greenify so i think it's not running in the background.
What would be the command to delete red cable pro?
Updated with new apps for OOS, AOSP, and LOS. Enjoy
Can this be used for Oos 12 c62?
paz999 said:
Can this be used for Oos 12 c62?
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Very likely - not tested though. Not much changed since C60
My phone is forcing upon me an update that I wish to stave off, if possible, or stop altogether if possible.
The upcoming update will happen in a day if I don't figure out how to stop it.
How can we definitively tell if the baseband will be incremented with any given forced update?
And how can we tell if this is a security-only update, or if the baseband will be updated too?
Use Package Disabler or an adb edit to disable these two services. Stops it dead in its tracks.
blackhawk said:
Use Package Disabler or an adb edit to disable these two services. Stops it dead in its tracks.
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Ah. Too late! This time anyway.
But your information is good for next time.
I'll use this information in the future (and so can others, which is the point of my fleshing what you just had suggested as the answer) to disable the following two services on my T-Mobile Galaxy A32 5G (SM-326U) Android 12 setup...
<com.sec.android.soagent>
What is com.sec.android.soagent?
What is SOAgent in Samsung Galaxy?
What does com.sec.android.soagent do?
<com.ws.dm>
What is com.ws.dm?
What does com.ws.dm do in a Google Activity?
What does Com WS DS mean?
When I looked to disable those two services using my MuntashirAkon App Manager...
<https://github.com/MuntashirAkon/AppManager>
I found that perhaps that second service has a different name?
<com.sec.android.soagent>
<com.wssyncmldm>
What is com.wssyncmldm?
How to disable com.wssyncmldm
Step by step guide to disabling com.wssyncmldm
All you need to know about com.wssyncmldm
Why disable com.wssyncmldm
How to fix com ws sync mldm
Everything you need to know about com.wssyncmldm
As for "Package Disabler", I didn't even know you could disable system packages without being root (alas, my phone can't be rooted).
It's nice to know you can disable system apps without root.
So that others don't have to look for it, I think I found it here, at least with my first set of search terms.
Package Disabler
<https://www.packagedisabler.com>
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
You can disable apps with 1 click. Disabled application / package will not be uninstalled or updated using Google play or any other means.
This app also provides password / uninstall protection to avoid misuse.
When I searched on XDA-Developers forum threads for package disabler, I found a bunch of hits, but I don't know which are canonical updated threads.
Package Disabler Pro- De-Bloat & Remove Stock Apps For Better Ram-Battery Life
Package Disabler - Android 11?
which also suggests LADB(Kunal Adb) or PC adb
Package Disabler?
Package Disabler?
New package disabler,works!!!
Package Disabler
Package disabler pro
[GUIDE] [No Root] Disable System Apps & Bloatware: Package Disabler Pro - T-Mobile
Has anyone found an alternative apk to package disabler pro?
Need Help with my note 8 Bootloop caused by disabled Packages
What bloatware have you safely disabled/removed on the Galaxy Tab S3?
These non-forum articles showed up in a google search for more information about this useful "package disabler" tool which purports to disable system packages without needing to be root.
Debloat Galaxy Devices Without Root
Universal Android Debloater helps you get rid of unwanted apps and bloatware on your phone
How to disable any pre-installed system app bloatware on Android without root
Android Central Package Disabler
Regarding the adb commands, I use adb all day every day for a variety of things (see below) but I haven't used adb (or ladb) to disable a service which requires root as I didn't know you could do that.
How to duplicate what adb does to ad hoc open any given Activity on the Android phone?
[adb] [Wireless debugging] [Wi-Fi] Is there an updated XDA tutorial yet on setting up adb COMPLETELY wirelessly as of Android 11+ (no USB cable!)?
[adb] What is the adb syntax to connect wirelessly to Android by unique serial number (instead of by Wi-Fi LAN IP address & random port assignment)?
[adb] [Wireless debugging] [Wi-Fi] Is there an updated XDA tutorial yet on setting up adb COMPLETELY wirelessly as of Android 11+ (no USB cable!)?
(PSA) Using the new Android 12 TILE for 'Developer options' 'Wireless debugging' to establish adb connection over Wi-Fi without USB
[adb,scrcpy,vysor] What ports does Android 12 randomly set when Wi-Fi connecting via Wireless debugging adb "pair" or "connect" commands?
Android 12 Developer options adb "Wireless debugging" option keeps turning off
For any given trusted computer, can we make an adb usb debugging connection on day one & then SAVE adbkey.pub authentication keys for use years later?
As for how to use either local adb (ladb) to disable packages (without needing the PC and without needing to be rooted), my first task was to look up what the ladb commands might be...
Say hello to LADB, a local ADB shell without needing root or a computer!
How to debloat your phone (and more) without connecting to a PC
And then let's look up some of the adb commands to figure out what they are to disable the two services using a PC but without needing to be rooted.
XDA-Developers guide to ADB
ADB Tips & Tricks: ADB commands that every power user should know about!
Obviously I have some homework to do before I can successfully disable the two services listed above without needing to be rooted (as my phone can't be rooted) using just adb (which seems like the easiest way to approach this task)...
Since I'm always connected to my phone via adb anyway (as I mirror my screen and audio onto my PC) I may as well use the adb commands to disable the two update services, where might these be the related necessary adb commands to employ for that task?
C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr /i soagent
That should find "package:com.sec.android.soagent"
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -d | findstr /i soagent
That should find the disabled packages & then grep for "com.sec.android.soagent" which shouldn't (yet) be in that list
C:\> adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.sec.android.soagent
That should (I hope) disable the listed package (is that correct?)
C:\> adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.sec.android.soagent
That should (if desired), re-enable the listed package (is that right?)Likewise, these are likely the related steps for com.wssyncmldm:
C:\> adb shell pm list packages | findstr /i wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm list packages -d | findstr /i wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.wssyncmldm
C:\> adb shell pm enable --user 0 com.wssyncmldm
But first, may I confirm that my two services are of a different name than that which was initially suggested?
And may I confirm the adb commands to disable those two services?
You can probably roll it back from 12 to 11 if you want provided the boot loader wasn't upgraded too.
This stock Samsung N10+ hasn't been updated in over 3 years; still running on Pie. Current load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Security simply isn't an issue with its current configuration... screw the Google scare hype. This is what Android is capable of... if you leave it be.
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You can probably roll it back from 12 to 11 if you want provided the boot loader wasn't upgraded too.
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Thank you for that suggestion, where I really don't know that much about Android, which I openly admit. I can research if pointed in the right direction though.
I am told the bootloader for the T-Mobile A32-5G needs to be version 5 or below (maybe even 3 or below) in order to root the Samsung Galaxy A32-5G, and mine is currently version 8.
I don't know how to roll back a bootloader, but even so, I'm not sure I understand your suggestion of rolling back the Android version from 12 to 11.
How would changing the OS change the bootloader version?
blackhawk said:
This stock Samsung N10+ hasn't been updated in over 3 years; still running on Pie. Current load is over 2.5 yo, still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Security simply isn't an issue with its current configuration... screw the Google scare hype. This is what Android is capable of... if you leave it be.
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I very much appreciate your kind and thoughtful advice that pointed me in the direction of the two packages that I needed to disable, which is what I needed to research in the right direction.
I also much appreciate that you mentioned adb will do the job of disabling those packages without me being rooted, as that too was a required datapoint that I didn't know until you told me.
Thank you very much for your kind advice, where I do agree with you this hype about having the latest security patches isn't something I'm all that worried about.
However....
There is this "nagging concern" that, as of Google's Project Mainline and Project Treble (both since renamed), the way that the 25 core modules update is no longer via carrier updates but over the air with Google Framework Services updates (not to be confused with Google Play Services updates).
AdServices multi-package multi-type Android 13
adbd com.android.adbd APEX Android 11
AppSearch com.android.appsearch APEX Android 13
ART com.android.art APEX Android 12
Bluetooth APEX Android 13
CellBroadcast com.android.cellbroadcast APEX Android 11
Conscrypt com.android.conscrypt APEX Android 10
Device Scheduling com.android.scheduling APEX Android 12
DNS Resolver com.android.resolv APEX Android 10
DocumentsUI com.android.documentsui APK Android 10
ExtServices com.android.ext.services APK (Android 10)
ExtServices com.android.ext.services APEX (Android 11)
IPsec/IKEv2 Library com.android.ipsec APEX Android 11
Media Media: com.android.media Android 10 (extractors)
Media Codecs: com.android.media.swcodec APEX Android 10 (extractors, MediaSession API) Android 11 (MediaParser API)
MediaProvider com.android.mediaprovider APEX Android 11
ModuleMetadata com.android.modulemetadata APK Android 10
Network Stack Network Stack Permission Configuration: com.android.networkstack.permissionconfig
Captive Portal Login: com.android.captiveportallogin
Network Components: com.android.networkstack APK Android 10
NNAPI Runtime com.android.neuralnetworks APK Android 11
OnDevicePersonalization Runtime Multiple Multiple Android 13
PermissionController com.android.permissioncontroller APK Android 10
SDK Extensions com.android.sdkext APEX Android 11
Statsd com.android.os.statsd APEX Android 11
Tethering com.android.tethering APK Android 11
Time Zone Data com.android.tzdata APEX Android 10
UWB com.android.uwb APEX Android 13
Wi-Fi com.android.wifi APEX Android 11
It's all very confusing HOW Android updates nowadays.
Some updates are over the air by the carrier
Other updates are done separately for the 25 core modules
Still others are done over a Google Play Store app Activity
(These last app updates are not really part of the Google Play Store app but the Activity for app updates appears in the settings for the Google Play Store app so a lot of people associate those app updates with the Google Play Store app).
In short, does this method of disabling two packages "really" work to stop all updates?
Or does it just work for the Project Mainline updates?
Or just the carrier supplied security updates?
I don't know.
You're welcome.
The bootloader version can be upgraded but not rolled back on a Snapdragon. If just the rom was upgraded from 11 to 12 it can be rolled back by flashing Android 11 if the bootloader wasn't upgraded too. I think this is the case for you but check it to be sure. Personally I don't muck with the firmware. A Samsung Experience center at a Best Buy can also flash it back to 11.
I really don't worry about updating any apps unless there's a improvement I need, so I don't.
It leads to a more stable platform since everything is already running well, more importantly it's fulfilling its mission. In the end that's all that counts. This is my solution; it may not be what others do but it works very well for me. I send almost zero time now troubleshooting... it just runs.
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Without you, I wouldn't have known the name of the two packages, nor that adb can disable them without me being rooted. Thanks.
What I don't know, yet anyway, is which of the following software versions those two packages above facilitated the updates for...
Android version [e.g., Android 12]
Baseband version [e.g., A326USQS8BVL3]
Security update [e.g., Dec. 1, 2022]
Google Play System [e.g., March 1, 2022]
Google Play Services [e.g., 22.42.12 (190400-481949630]
Google Play Store [e.g., 33.5.16-21 [0][PR] 4933219047]
Firmware (such as the Qualcomm modem firmware)
25 Core modules in Project Mainline
These are apparently updated either over Google Play Services on the net or OTA by partners.
Default/original apps (such as Chrome, YouTube, etc.)
User apps (of which there may be hundreds)
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The bootloader version can be upgraded but not rolled back on a Snapdragon.
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I didn't think it was going to be easy to unlock the bootloader, let alone roll it backward a notch or two.
BTW, it's not a Snapdragon I don't think.
DevCheck (see attached screenshot) shows it to be a "Mediatek Dimensity 720" powering this SM-A326U Galaxy A32 5G.
blackhawk said:
If just the rom was upgraded from 11 to 12 it can be rolled back by flashing Android 11 if the bootloader wasn't upgraded too. I think this is the case for you but check it to be sure. Personally I don't muck with the firmware. A Samsung Experience center at a Best Buy can also flash it back to 11.
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I've seen that link, and I found it fantastic, where I think I'm stuck in not being able to root unless something new comes up - which is my main purpose here in at least freezing the bootloader version at 8.
The main lack of information I have at the moment is I don't know WHAT PROCESS updates the bootloader.
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I really don't worry about updating any apps unless there's a improvement I need, so I don't.
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I'm with you 100% in that I don't update ANY apps unless I KNOW it has something I want (which almost never happens).
That's good that neither of us worries about app updates because most people don't realize what a MESS app updates truly are!
I've found out most people THINK that the Google Play Store does a check for new apps for ALL your installed apps - but I've tested it and it doesn't even come close (see attached screenshot proof).
The Google Play Store app update section isn't even part of the Google Play Store (it's an Activity within it but it's independent of the Google Play Store app itself) - but what's worse is the fact it updates barely any apps.
Maybe a dozen. Maybe even two dozen.
But the Google Play Store app update Activity MISSES hundreds upon hundreds of apps, which the screenshots below prove to be the case.
Luckily, as a result of that opinion which we both share that we don't update apps unless we need to, this whole app update mess isn't an issue for either one of us, but bear in mind that a LOT of people "think" the Google Play Store app "updates" all their apps.
It's not even close.
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It leads to a more stable platform since everything is already running well, more importantly it's fulfilling its mission. In the end that's all that counts. This is my solution; it may not be what others do but it works very well for me. I send almost zero time now troubleshooting... it just runs.
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I'm like you in that I don't update the hundreds of apps unless any one of them needs to be updated, which almost never happens.
But what is driving me nuts is the CONFUSION about what process updates what part of the Android operating system.
For example, I'm currently at:
The Google Play System = March 1, 2022
Settings > About phone > Software information
The Google Play Services = Version 22.42.12 (190400-481949630)
Settings > Apps > Your apps > Google Play Services
The Google Play Store = 33.5.16-21 [0][PR] 4933219047
Settings > Apps > Your apps > Google Play Services
But what is the process that updates those three entities?
It behooves us to nail this down as I'm confused what is updated when & how.
While there are at least a half dozen important layers of Android which are updated on a variety of schedules, I think the fundamental updated layers may be:
The Android OS version, baseband & security patch levels
The Google Play {System,Services,Store} system update levels
The versions of the 25 core modules of Project Mainline
The versions of the firmware in Project Treble
The versions of all the apps supplied with the native OS
I'm embarrassed, for example, to state that I have no idea whatsoever what updates the BASEBAND, for example.
Worse, I have no idea what process updates the 25 core modules of the Project Mainline modules (which is the core of Android).
Project Mainline core modules in Android 10
Project Mainline core modules in Android 11
Project Mainline core modules in Android 12
Project Mainline core modules in Android 13
What process updates those two dozen critical core modules?
com.wssyncmldm is what does all OTA firmware updates for the phone including the bootloader as far as I know. To stop OTA upgrades only it needs to be disabled. It's the only one that can permanently screw you up.
I'm not familiar with the MediaTek chipsets. Galaxy store updates it's apps as well, I firewall block it unless I need to use it.
I keep installable backup copies of all my apps including system. That way on a reload or if they get an unwanted update, I'm ready.
Worksv on Android 9,10, not sure about higher. Newer versions are on Playstore.
blackhawk said:
com.wssyncmldm is what does all OTA firmware updates for the phone including the bootloader as far as I know. To stop OTA upgrades only it needs to be disabled. It's the only one that can permanently screw you up.
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Thank you for confirming com.wssyncmldm does the over-the-air firmware updates, and, particularly the caveat that it's the only updater package that can permanently screw the ability to root up.
Android is broken into so many components that I am going nuts trying to figure out what updates what - so that helps (a little).
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I'm not familiar with the MediaTek chipsets. Galaxy store updates it's apps as well, I firewall block it unless I need to use it.
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Thank you for bringing up the Galaxy App update mechanism, which I had omitted in my description of what updates apps above.
The OTA update often updates default system apps
The Google Play Store Activity Updater updates "some" apps
The FOSS Google Play Store clients also update "many" apps
The Samsung Galaxy Store updater updates its own apps
There are app updaters I've tested which update ALL apps
(Of course, these assume an update is available.)
Just so that you know, I never create ANY login on my phone, so I can't log into the galaxy store even if I had wanted to do so.
Is there any app in the Samsung Galaxy Store worth the login requirements?
That means I don't have a Google Account set up on my phone either (even as I have a Google Account), so I've learned empirically that if you log into the GMail app even once, it CREATES a Google Account on your phone.
The phone works better WITHOUT the Google Account setup.
Likewise if you log into the Google Maps app, or Google Voice, etc., but luckily ALL the Google apps have equivalent apps which generally work better than the Google apps do anyway.
GMail === FairMail mail client
Chrome === Ungoogled Chromium web client
YouTube === NewPipe YouTube client
Google Play Store === Aurora Google Play Store client
Google Maps === works fine w/o a login
Google Calendar === Etar
Google Messages === Pulse SMS (before Klinker sold to Maple Media)
Google launcher === Nova Launcher (before they sold out)
etc.
Note a good reason for SAVING all the APKs you install is shown in the case of Nova and Pulse where both went over to the dark side.
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I keep installable backup copies of all my apps including system. That way on a reload or if they get an unwanted update, I'm ready.
Worksv on Android 9,10, not sure about higher. Newer versions are on Playstore.
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Like you, I maintain all my APKs independently OUTSIDE of the current daily drive phone, where it's all completely automatic.
The FOSS Google Play Store clients have an option to NOT DELETE the APK when you install any app off the Google Play Store repository.
That fact bears repeating.
When you install an app off the Google Play store, presumably this sequence occurs:
1. The client finds the app & then you download the APK
2. The client initiates the installation of the APK
3. Then the client always DELETES the downloaded APK
But when you install that same app off that same repository using the FOSS Google Play Store clients, and if you check the box to NOT DELETE the APK after installation, then THIS sequence happens.
1. The client finds the app & then you download the APK
2. The client initiates the installation of the APK
3. Then the client always DOES NOT DELETE the downloaded APK
In addition, my Android file system and my Windows file systems are exactly the same (so to speak) since I use free WebDAV servers to mount my entire Android filesystem onto Windows as a drive letter over Wi-Fi (no cables necessary).
Can you mount BOTH Android internal & external storage onto Windows as a drive letter over Wi-Fi using a SINGLE WebDAV server?
That way, when I need to re-populate a new phone, I first bring over the homescreen and all the icon locations (which Nova does nicely), and then, one by one, I populate the apps by SLIDING them over using my mouse to slide from Windows to the mirrored Android.
See the screenshots below proving all that I say above.
BTW, I have one WARNING about extracting APKs, where I've tested ALL the free extractors extent, and where I've had some bad experiences where the extracted APK doesn't work on a different model phone (generally it's different in every way, hardware & software).
I've had MUCH BETTER experience just NOT DELETING the APK when it's downloaded off the Google Play Store repository, or the F-Droid repository, or the GitHub/Sourceforge/Guardian/etc., repositories.
This problem, I think, will only get worse as of the August 2022 decree by Google regarding APEX files (instead of APK files) on the Google Play Store repository.
In summary, Android UPDATES are complex, and I do NOT profess to understand what updates what - so any help anyone can provide is welcome as I am confused as to what updates what.
Since my credibility matters, screenshots below prove all I say above.
I use whatever comes in handy and don't go more nuts than I need to in order to get the job done.
The reason to be able to access the Samsung Galaxy store are the free icon packs and themes.
Edge add ons and certain other apps like Sound Assistant. The Good Lock family of apps are of particular interest for a Samsung user.
Nova isn't as fast or efficient as One UI. One UI is a very stable launcher and very customizable.
My stock N10+ homescreen running on One UI, modified with various Good Lock apps and One handed Operation plus. Digi Clock and Energy Ring are 3rd party apps.
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Nova isn't as fast or efficient as One UI.
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Nova free went over to the dark side as of the Branch acquisition.
Nova Launcher and Sesame Search have been acquired by Branch, an analytics company
As a direct result of the Branch acquisition, my Nova free is the last known good version (namely the pre-branch 7.0.57 version):
<https://novalauncher.com/beta>
<https://novalauncher.com/apk/NovaLauncher_7.0.57.apk>
Name: NovaLauncher_7.0.57.apk
Size: 8687535 bytes (8483 KiB)
SHA256: 05AE72221D8D4F3D6A111A3220A0C87040806AF4E53053EF64F2DE426990893E
Mostly what I like(d) about Nova free is the ability to save the homescreen (and all the folders, shortcuts, and icons) EXACTLY and then re-load it on any number of phones, no matter what make/model of that phone.
Another feature I really liked about Nova free is its ability to put icons on any grid and in any location whatsoever.
Last summer I had opened a thread seeking a replacement app launcher...
Nova launcher used to be the best free Android launcher - until now - so what's better?
We discussed the merits at that time...
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One UI is a very stable launcher and very customizable.
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I'm happy with my last-known-good-version of Nova free, but because they went over to the dark side, I have to find another app launcher.
If OneUI does those things, I might consider it.
Save homescreen/folders/icons & re-use later
Put icons on any grid (or no grid) whatsoever
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Mostly what I like(d) about Nova free is the ability to save the homescreen (and all the folders, shortcuts, and icons) EXACTLY and then re-load it on any number of phones, no matter what make/model of that phone.
The only other thing I really liked about Nova free is its ability to put icons on any grid and in any location whatsoever.
I'm happy with my last-known-good-version of Nova free, but because they went over to the dark side, I have to find another app launcher.
If OneUI does those two things, I might consider it.
Save homescreen/folders/icons & re-use later
Put icons on any grid (or no grid) whatsoever
Does it?
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SmartSwitch can save icons and homescreen, however on a clean load I wouldn't use SmartSwitch other than to save homescreen settings so you'll need to rebuild the icons and apps although Goodlock apps and homepage settings remain in effect. So it's not like you just landed on mars and everything looks unworldly with no button navigation
Other than folders you're locked into the grid pattern.
One UI is faster, more efficient and very stable. In fact in 3 years I've never had it crash and force a reboot. Let me put this way, one of the most surefire ways to boot loop a Samsung is a 3rd party launcher. Been there, done that twice, back to back full reloads That convinced me to live with the white page indicators. That's my only real criticism of One UI.
Pick your poison wisely...
I didn't read the whole thread, but for instance it's already enough to freeze the "Software-Update" package to stop "Software-Update" notifications.
In my S8 with Android 9 it's located in /system/priv-app/FotaAgent/FotaAgent.apk. Just rename to "FotaAgent.apk.bak" and that's it!