I'm curious if anyone else waits a bit before rooting. Just in case the phone breaks early on and needs to be sent back.
I'm thinking maybe wait 1-2 months?
Am I paranoid, or does everyone else do this too?
.jond said:
I'm curious if anyone else waits a bit before rooting. Just in case the phone breaks early on and needs to be sent back.
I'm thinking maybe wait 1-2 months?
Am I paranoid, or does everyone else do this too?
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Personally I don't worry about that. I DO wait to give myself time to familiarize myself with how the phone functions and such before rooting so that I know when there is a problem, rather than second guessing.
It is also hard to tell if a Rom/kernel is running better when you have no base line to compare it to.
I rooted my phone almost immediately. I don't like using custom ROMs but I do like using apps and tweaks that require root.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
1-2 months??? I didn't even make it 1-2 hours. My phone was unlocked and rooted within 30 minutes of delivery.
I unlocked, installed TWRP, and rooted within 20 minutes of UPS delivering it.
I used to root and start flashing almost immediately. But as the years have passed and I've become more reliant on my phone for work and such, I've started pulling back a bit. I've reached a point where I just get too frustrated with even the slightest bugs so now I immediately unlock the bootloader (to prevent having to do a full factory restore later) and just use the phone as is until a fully stable ROM comes around that I feel comfortable flashing without losing any functionality at all.
This time around I'll probably stay stock with Nova Launcher (once the new 4.4 version is finalized) for another couple months. Time will tell though, I suppose.
.jond said:
I'm curious if anyone else waits a bit before rooting. Just in case the phone breaks early on and needs to be sent back.
I'm thinking maybe wait 1-2 months?
Am I paranoid, or does everyone else do this too?
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Seeing as I have a Nexus device, with factory images provided directly from Google that will return my phone completely back to stock (except lock the bootloader), I usually don't hesitate to root or flash custom ROMs. The only reasons I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet is because CWM isn't completely stable yet (I don't like TWRP for some reason), and because my brother is debating on a Nexus 5 for his new phone, and I wanted to show him complete stock because he won't be a tinkerer. He'll be using the unmodded, unrooted bare stock image.
I rooted it out of the box yesterday.
Waiting myself. Want to get a feel for this device as is. Maybe later I will root/flash. But for now I am happy as is. No rush.
The important thing is you learn about the phone and how to root it and potential issues before you do it. I'm still waiting for my phone but the first thing I'm going to do is put a custom recovery on and make a nandroid. Then I'll root it as I have apps I like to use that require root. I'm not worried about warranty issues as it's pretty straight forward to put the factory image back on it and relock it.
Also, remember that when you unlock it you'll lose all your data and apps. And you'll need to unlock it to root it.
I booted, took the ota, unlocked the bootloader, installed TWRP and Super SU as soon as the phone was in my grimy hands.
Rooted immediately after taking out of the box .. no point waiting...
I unlocked and rooted before activating. Not really planning on flashing any ROMs, but just wanted it done in case I needed to tweak cpu to increase battery life.
Just until you familiarize with your new device.
Just successfully rooting won't affect the end results when using the stock Rom. Everything should still work the same way but with more options for the user.
I jut waited until next day, but took time to play some games, make calls/texts, web browsing and tested all features. There I learned the battery life, Net speed and stock performance. Everything was the way should be Firmware/Hardware wise:good:. Then, unlocked/rooted/ & flashed its first Rom
and here we are!
I didn't even boot it. I powered it on in download mode, fastboot oem unlocked, flashed twrp and rooted. Then booted for the first time. I only rooted for tibu and adaway. Now just waiting on aokp.
I waited 4 days only and mainly because we have no stable recoveries yet. Twrp is a joke while cwm is not official yet.
caribouxda said:
I waited 4 days only and mainly because we have no stable recoveries yet. Twrp is a joke while cwm is not official yet.
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I'd say just the opposite, but then I like twrp
You can unroot, so....
hi,
firstly i'm unsure where to put this, it's not actually a question, but it may be seen as one.. so, if you prefered it in the Q&A then i'm sorry for getting it wrong.
i've got a lot of issues with the basic version of the software of my phone (huawei ascend y300-0000 is what is written on it, i think it's the chinese version, most of the base apps are chinese), till it died on me and even the recovery wouldn't solve anything, so i had to root, unlock bootloader, install an alternate recovery and finally put some mod roms;
well, i was wrong, since 3 days i can't use my phone, since apparently every rom is for "0100" version and on my phone some roms wouldn't start at all (it shows the first animation continuosly), while others works in everything but the local netwrok ! it totally don't want to recognize my sim (after the first time it also says to put in a sim, while mine is already in);
i also have been trying to install the custom chinese rom MIUI v5, but apparently this isn't booting at all, and forcing upgrade with a retail of B197 gives error while installing.
all this being said, could someone help me to:
if possible, modify a custom rom that is lighter and also has nice options like bluethoot tethering, if it's not.. find something that actually works on this version of the phone,
i'm really at a loss of what to do, i even have downloadeded this shuame program, but it's all in chinese and i'm trying to not break completely my phone
Thanks for your time
i found some chinese roms, just one seems to be working when flashed tho, and in this one the network don't seem to be working either (the phone searchs for a UIM card), is there any way to make it work? i tried flashing some european baseband, but it doesn't seem like it changed anything
hey all Im having constant niggly issues with A10 on my Oneplus7 pro and its starting to drive me nuts
things like dropping the wifi constantly even after resetting all wifi settings
google assistant suddenly stops working
fingerprint sensor becomes flaky
so i was thinking of installing a custom ROM if anyone can suggest one.
I assume I would need to root the phone to do so so would need some help witht that too
What do you recommend? I have a one plus 7 pro 5G EU version
TIA Bart
There are plenty of guides here on how to bootloader unlock, flash a custom recovery and then root your phone. Only 2 need to be done to flash a custom rom however that might not even be needed have you tried doing a full factory reset? Or doing a OnePlus recovery msm factory reload?
Edit: you hate nagging bugs don't go custom roms we got some great ones. Vibration and Haptics, Auto-Brightness and Vowifi issues but we tolerate them for customizability and improvements over other broken codes. So it's a duality.
Thanks for your reply
I've done a full factory reset about 6 times in the past 6 months.
Also OnePlus support did a full msm reset too
Which Rom would you recommend as there are so many to choose from?
And which 2 things are a must to flash a Rom?
You must be bootloader unlocked and you must have a custom recovery installed to flash a custom rom. There is no perfect custom rom it's all choices. Read the threads, listen to people. Read reviews, look at videos and pictures. Then take the leap and flash it, don't like it oh well flash a different one... WELCOME TO THE ADDICTION OF MODDING.
Thanks bud
Many moons ago I flashed a custom Rom for an s5 and used TWRP so hopefully proces not too different now.
First of all. I have a Poco X3 Pro with 8GB RAM and 256GB Storage. MIUI is v12.5.2.0 (RJUEUXM). Model says M2102J20SG. I Have bought my phone 8 months ago and yesterday I decided to unlock it, mistakenly thinking that would let me disable the Xiaomi apps I do not like.
TL; DR:
1) Can I root my phone with stock rom?
2) Can I disable Xiaomi apps on stock rom if I root it?
3) Any suggestions for me with priority on stability over performance?
I have not been involved in rooting a phone in many years. The last android phone I had and rooted was a ZTE Blade and I mean the first Blade, which was like over a decade ago. After that I did a mistake to go on iPhone and then on an LG G6, that never made me feel like I needed to root it honestly.
The main reason I want to root my phone is to debloat it safely, removing/freezing/disabling quite a lot of Xiaomi's extra software, that I just do not want on my phone. MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me, although I have to admit, due to how I am worried that updating it will make my phone more sluggy and will affect battery life, I have yet to ever update it, still being on version 12.5.2.0.
I honestly would not mind to use a custom rom, but my preference is always stability over performance, except if that would offer me extra battery life and the current MIUI's battery life is beyond excellent in my experience, but maybe because LG G6's battery life was never that good since the day I bought it. I am definitely open to suggestions, about the course of action you people think I should take.
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
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Popletenec said:
You can use adb commands to disable apps, but speaking from experience, you can only disable so much before things start to break, and some of the most annoying things (to me) cannot be disabled without breaking something. Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
If you like MIUI, uninstall apps that can be uninstalled normally and use it as it is, or (and I highly recommend it) install custom ROM. If you want stability, ArrowOS or Crdroid is what you should take a look at. ArrowOS comes with gapps, while Crdroid offers tons of customization and comes as Vanilla (you can flash gapps seperately, if you want).
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No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
aurocha said:
You sure can root your phone with stock Miui. However, you need to unlock the bootloader, first. It implies loosing all your current data. After that is done, I see no point in running stock miui, I'd go for xiaomi.eu's stable or any of the AOSP roms currently available.
I'm currently running latest crDRoid, which I'm quite enjoying. It's based of LineageOS with added tweaks and is shipped without gapps - you must installed after flashing the ROM.
Make sure you understand the process:
1. Unlock bootloader - you must wait for the 7 days to do so.
2. Flash a recovery. I suggest looking for a beta of a recovery that supports Android 12 decryption, try Nebrassy's TWRP
3. Flash your preferred ROM
4. Root it with Magisk+useful modules: safetynetfix, gms doze, etc.
Enjoy.
- Regards,
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I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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Also, when you update the system, all disabled things will most likely re-enable and you have to do the whole process all over again.
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If you uninstall them via ADB on the active user profile they will stay uninstalled even after an update. I did so with 12.5.5 and upgraded to 13.0.1 a while back and they stayed uninstalled.
weltall2 said:
No, adb commands is something I definitely do not want to do. I want the system to allow me to actually disable something, without any sort of "brute forcing", mostly cause like you mentioned, I am worried of breaking things. I do not per se dislike google apps, but honestly if I can have as less as possible, it would be better for me. I will look into both the custom roms you mentioned, thank you =)
I unlocked the bootloader just yesterday, so I am done with the first part. I will definitely be checking crDroid, since it seems I can't get rid of MIUI what annoys me the most, which is it's bloatware. I guess since you guys mention to try a custom rom, I should give it a try at least, since i went ahead and unlocked the bootloader anyway. Thank you for the suggestion!
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You could also try XiaomiEU rom, which is basically what you want: debloated MIUI. But to have true control over the apps and features you want, rom like Crdroid is the way to go.
Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Oh I have seen Xiaomi EU mentioned a lot, but I kept thinking it was just the European stock roms. I just looked it up thanks to you and it indeed looks exactly like what I was asking for. I wanted to stay on MIUI cause I really worry that if it is not vanilla, it might cause problems and most importantly battery life ones.
I probably will be trying to go for crDroid, but for now I am worried I might make a mistake. I would hate it if I ended up bricking my phone, since I love Poco X3 Pro.
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Don't worry, you won't brick your phone if you just follow instructions, even then, you would have to do some crazy **** to hard brick your phone, most likely you will just end up with bootloop, which is always fixable by just reflashing the rom.
Read carefully and everything will be fine. I am on ArrowOS since I got the phone, updating regularly, rooting, using magisk modules, zero problems so far. Most of the time, battery life is better since useless bloat won't drain it so much.
Purely for battery life reasons I would personally never suggest switching to a custom rom from MIUI, because with a few ADB commands you can get rid of most of the "useless" bloat. However, if you are concerned about your privacy and don't want to feed Xiaomi with your data, then Lineage would be a good choice as an alternative OS, since at least the official versions are heavily regulated.
The battery life of a debloated MIUI is fantastic, at least in my case.
Ok, this will probably be a bit of a dumb and final question before I jump into the whole custom rome in the next days when I have time. I have seen a lot of times people mentioning TWRP or in general recovery that should be android 12 compatible, rather than the normal v11 provided in the twrp site. crDroid even seems to offer it's own recovery for it's latest android 12.1 version. I am still on Android 11 (MIUI 12.5.2.0). Does that mean I need to first update my phone to the latest MIUI to upgrade my software to android 12, or the recovery is backwards compatible?
I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
Hi!! I'm on the same situation here, coming from a Poco 1 (which is being really hard to let go) to a Poco x3 Pro so this thread is being really useful to me cause I'm basically on the same dilemma, stock vs custom?
I always used custom but when I bought my Poco 1 there was an automated script that unbloated the phone so I did that and stayed with the stock with no issues at all in this 3 years of use.
Now, for the poco x3, the only way of doing the same is by going app by app and removing it through ADB which, as you mentioned, is not that good if you are not sure what to remove so that made me think of going to a custom rom. I mean, I just installed it and all that xiaomi junk is removed.
What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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I would definitely update to latest stock rom, then flash recovery and install ROM.
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Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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What I didn't know is that the EU version was debloated so that could be a good option for me but, here's my questionk besides de bloated apps, which is the diference between EU and Global roms? Are they target for the same version of the phone or I could have like NFC disable or radio issues? Cause I though there were different version of the stock roms cause the hardware was diferent between devices.
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Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
weltall2 said:
Ok, first I am going to let the updater do it's job finally and then the rest. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Just to point out, Xiaomi EU is in a way a custom rom. The Xiaomi.EU community taken the Chinese rom, that has less bloat and more features, translating it and sharing it to people. Just because it it called debloated, that does not mean it does not come with the same Xiaomi Apps. It is still MIUI and that means some Xiaomi apps will still be impossible to disable and also apps like the Xiaomi Security that will softbrick your phone if disabled, still is needed and will cause the same thing in the Xiaomi.EU rom.
It is the main reason I am thinking of trying crDroid, or else like you said, I would not mind just a debloated stock rom, since afar from all the needed Xiaomi apps, MIUI seems quite enjoyable to me. If you check their forums though, you will see even the Xiaomi.EU has it's own problems.
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Ohhhh I see! I think I'll try crDroid too and Arrow, as long as it's debloated, the IR works as long with the radio and the nfc, I'm happy.