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Hi there,
coming from the kyrillos/apocalypse remix thread I have a question for the devs here. Since Android is GPL software and so the resulting roms, changes etc. have to be published under the same license, why are people not allowed to remix roms as long as they release the sources again under GPL? I thought this was the spirit of open source: share and remix? Someone please enlighten me.
Thanks
Ben
Benjamin_L said:
Hi there,
coming from the kyrillos/apocalypse remix thread I have a question for the devs here. Since Android is GPL software and so the resulting roms, changes etc. have to be published under the same license, why are people not allowed to remix roms as long as they release the sources again under GPL? I thought this was the spirit of open source: share and remix? Someone please enlighten me.
Thanks
Ben
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hi
pls im handling the issue pls dont create any more problems ok
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and to all no more talk on this subject the next person doing it will have to face some serious action from me
pls dont force me to do the same
This is an open question for all the mods. I just want to know what's the status of the INVESTIGATION on Andiroxu's kernel sources? His thread has been locked by @GermainZ for over a month and half and still no updates?
@justmpm mentioned that his sources are not available, but after checking I found that they are available here
https://github.com/ajaybhatia/canvas2
So please let us know any update that you have..
ibshar said:
This is an open question for all the mods. I just want to know what's the status of the INVESTIGATION on Andiroxu's kernel sources? His thread has been locked by @GermainZ for over a month and half and still no updates?
@justmpm mentioned that his sources are not available, but after checking I found that they are available here
https://github.com/ajaybhatia/canvas2
So please let us know any update that you have..
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Mutiny,
M with you @ibshar...
Vote for @andiroxu .. vote for @andiroxu ...
Is this investigation being done by Indian police? Coz if its taking time than must be our police..
Edit :what: I edited the tag
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jaunty said:
Mutiny,
M with you @ibshar...
Vote for @Abdiroxu.. vote for @Abdiroxu...
Is this investigation being done by Indian police? Coz if its taking time than must be our police..
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dude you tagged the wrong guy... it's Vote for @andiroxu
Yes Bro @ibshar M With U, @jaunty & @andiroxu Too . Great Thinking By You Bro Really @ibshar.
I Also Wanted To Know The Investigation Status But Wasn't Able To Know Mods Please Answer Our Question.
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ibshar said:
This is an open question for all the mods. I just want to know what's the status of the INVESTIGATION on Andiroxu's kernel sources? His thread has been locked by @GermainZ for over a month and half and still no updates?
@justmpm mentioned that his sources are not available, but after checking I found that they are available here
https://github.com/ajaybhatia/canvas2
So please let us know any update that you have..
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Agree man. Mods are making me sick.
Reopen @andiroxu's thread :good:
I'm sorry but I can not comment on the state of the investigation and neither can GermainZ. Thanks for pointing out those sources, I will check to see if there is anything new and exciting .
I have always done my best to help all the developers get their work done and I am really proud of the ROM developers for this device, because your OEM has been less than 0% helpful. However, please be aware that a kernel that is not GPL compliant is warez and because xda was built by developers, xda takes a very strict stance on warez and on upholding the tenants and spirit of the GPL. That means that posting links, PMing, opening support threads, or even just asking some one to give it to you are all against xda rule #6.
justmpm said:
I'm sorry but I can not comment on the state of the investigation and neither can GermainZ. Thanks for pointing out those sources, I will check to see if there is anything new and exciting .
I have always done my best to help all the developers get their work done and I am really proud of the ROM developers for this device, because your OEM has been less than 0% helpful. However, please be aware that a kernel that is not GPL compliant is warez and because xda was built by developers, xda takes a very strict stance on warez and on upholding the tenants and spirit of the GPL. That means that posting links, PMing, opening support threads, or even just asking some one to give it to you are all against xda rule #6.
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@justmpm bro I know you are the most developer friendly mod for our Canvas 2 and I respect you a lot and appreciate all your support in our development threads.. :good:
But I think your are mistaken. The reason why Andiroxu's kernel thread was closed is because Varun Chitre suspected that his Thunderzap 2.0 kernels code had been used without his permission.
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Dear Ajay Bhatia,
I need to sound a bit rude here now.
First of all the kernel sources you posted DO NOT reflect your kernel build. This makes a huge violation to the GPL terms. You are trying to cheat the XDA Moderation Committee and all other developers. Simply uploading some other sources and altering the Makefile to reflect the kernel version number does not make it a 3.4.5 kernel. You are either fooling users here under the name of an upgraded kernel OR you are tricking the complete GPL system and the moderators here by uploading some other sources
2. Most important thing now, I never came into public like this for such purposes because I never met people like you. YOU ARE USING various patches from my kernel repository without proper acknowledgment and credits. The most important here is the vermagic hack which I author right from ThunderZap for ICS days. Without that fix you cannot change a DARN thing in kernel. You cannot set a name for your kernel, you cannot upgrade it to upstream levels due to vermagic string mismatches in the kernel which results into an unbootable build.
Now I am beginning to doubt that you are using COMPLETE ThunderZap 3.4.5 upgraded commitbase, if this is not the case, come-on tell me how many conflicts did you face while upgrading? How did you fix the dev_unlock issue while making a transition from 3.4.2-->3.4.3 ? Prove it.
GPL allows everyone's code to be used and modified for free but that doesn't mean no work was spent to do that. Till now you were just violating GPL by uploading only directories that had modified files but now when you are found to be using patches that I author without properly acknowledging it then this is a thing which I do NOT tolerate. I straight way call this stealing.
I require transparency in everything dealing with GPL, but in this case neither your kernel nor your sources are so.
REPORTED
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Now whether this is true or not it does not make this kernel a warez as there is no PAID version of this kernel in the market.! I am just going by the XDA Rules definition of warez listed in Rule 6
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, then pay for it. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to request, promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained. This is a site of developers, i.e. the sort of people who create such software. When you cheat a software developer, you cheat us as a community
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I beleive the rule that you think was broken by Andiroxu is XDA Rule #12 - Using the work of others
But if this is so, then please confirm it and let us know... :angel::fingers-crossed:
I am all in for GPL compliance and open source, but I would request you to be as open as possible about this investigation as well.
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@justmpm bro I know you are the most developer friendly mod for our Canvas 2 and I respect you a lot and appreciate all your support in our development threads.. :good:
But I think your are mistaken. The reason why Andiroxu's kernel thread was closed is because Varun Chitre suspected that his Thunderzap 2.0 kernels code had been used without his permission.
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Now whether this is true or not it does not make this kernel a warez as there is no PAID version of this kernel in the market.! I am just going by the XDA Rules definition of warez listed in Rule 6
I beleive the rule that you think was broken by Andiroxu is XDA Rule #12 - Using the work of others
But if this is so, then please confirm it and let us know... :angel::fingers-crossed:
I am all in for GPL compliance and open source, but I would request you to be as open as possible about this investigation as well.
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Sorry for any confusion. As I said, I can't really talk about what is going on with that kernel. I mentioned rule #6 in regards to all the people posting down load links, or offering to PM people, or asking for people to PM them a copy of a non GPL compliant kernel. It is considered warez, because the GPL requires that anybody who works on the the linux kernel (or other GPL protected code) to share the developments that they have made. This is the "price" you pay for being able to use the work of all the previous kernel developers.
Originally Posted by ibshar<br />
@justmpm bro I know you are the most developer friendly mod for our Canvas 2 and I respect you a lot and appreciate all your support in our development threads.. :good:<br />
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But I think your are mistaken. The reason why <b>Andiroxu's </b>kernel thread was <b>closed </b>is because <b>Varun Chitre</b> suspected that his <b>Thunderzap 2.0 kernels code</b> had been used without his permission. <br />
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<b>Now whether this is true or not it does not make this kernel a <font color="DarkRed">warez </font>as there is no PAID version of this kernel in the market.! I am just going by the XDA Rules definition of warez listed in Rule 6</b><br />
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I beleive the rule that you think was broken by Andiroxu is XDA Rule #12 - Using the work of others<br />
But if this is so, then please confirm it and let us know... :angel::fingers-crossed:<br />
<b>I am all in for GPL compliance and open source, but I would request you to be as open as possible about this investigation as well.</b>
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Sorry for any confusion. As I said, I can't really talk about what is going on with that kernel. I mentioned rule #6 in regards to all the people posting down load links, or offering to PM people, or asking for people to PM them a copy of a non GPL compliant kernel. It is considered warez, because the GPL requires that anybody who works on the the linux kernel (or other GPL protected code) to share the developments that they have made. This is the "price" you pay for being able to use the work of all the previous kernel developers.
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But code is in front of you. I even PM you about it about a month ago and you told me that you will compile it to know whether its fake or not. But you never turned back. Now this is thing of prestige.
You are spreading a wrong about me labeling me as a "CHEATER". Just tell me everything is in front of you with all source code and you are telling I am cheater. How come?
Kindly explain if the submission of source code on a public website as public repo doesn't make it open source? Due this behaviour sometimes I even feel not to make further commits. Now you tell me whether you want to curb the development or help it to continue?
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Yes, please solve this matter coz its very unpleasant to flash a rom without kernel,
Now, it's like drunk driving We getting boot loops, force closes, app installing issues, some get 3G call issue, OTG issue and many more coz we can't have Change log of kernel and issues related to. It and at one place.
Allegations by varun have took us to the past when we were asking for link to same.
A kernel developer who is working hard has to spread his work like this it's embarrassing, for himself and his dedication.
I seriously respect @andiroxu and I can't see his work to be called by some other words than appreciation.
I want to use my RIGHT TO INFORMATION, if it's available on XDA :what: to know about the results of investigation or the state of investigation.
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I will only say this.
Give proper credits, and you will have my respect
yeah im talking to you @andiroxu
There is no way you could compile that kernel, without varun.chitre15 commits, and patches.
Im not saying you didnt added some work on that Kernel, but saying It's all your work, it's just lying
As for the rest of you guys, this is just an HUGE disrespected of varun's work, im very ofended with this.
The guy that worked so hard for the last couple years for the development of YOUR phone, and this is how you pay him back?
I have reported SO MANY threads, where people where posting links to ""andiroxu's"" Kernel.
andiroxu on his thread, posted FALSE sources, thinking everybody is an noob.
Thread got closed of course, as those sources where indeed false
@justmpm , @GermainZ You guys have been doing an great job, cleaning all the threads
THANKS !
superdragonpt said:
I will only say this.
Give proper credits, and you will have my respect
yeah im talking to you @andiroxu
There is no way you could compile that kernel, without varun.chitre15 commits, and patches.
Im not saying you didnt added some work on that Kernel, but saying It's all your work, it's just lying
As for the rest of you guys, this is just an HUGE disrespected of varun's work, im very ofended with this.
The guy that worked so hard for the last couple years for the development of YOUR phone, and this is how you pay him back?
I have reported SO MANY threads, where people where posting links to ""andiroxu's"" Kernel.
andiroxu on his thread, posted FALSE sources, thinking everybody is an noob.
Thread got closed of course, as those sources where indeed false
@justmpm , @GermainZ You guys have been doing an great job, cleaning all the threads
THANKS !
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Brother for your kind information I released my kernel before varun and it was compiled successfully and used by people. @tri_zet has aware everybody about the dirty xonfigs to be removed before compilation. He is the one who released first and inspired everyone and help me too. If you still have any doubt that without varun it was impossible than you can visit OP and check the dates of the posts. Regarding patches by varun then my source code is still available on github and anybody is welcome to investigate it. Anyone can compile to check whether it will or not. You could be a big fan or Fowler of varun but that doesn't mean that you have not to listen others.
Thank you
superdragonpt said:
I will only say this.
Give proper credits, and you will have my respect
yeah im talking to you @andiroxu
There is no way you could compile that kernel, without varun.chitre15 commits, and patches.
Im not saying you didnt added some work on that Kernel, but saying It's all your work, it's just lying
As for the rest of you guys, this is just an HUGE disrespected of varun's work, im very ofended with this.
The guy that worked so hard for the last couple years for the development of YOUR phone, and this is how you pay him back?
I have reported SO MANY threads, where people where posting links to ""andiroxu's"" Kernel.
andiroxu on his thread, posted FALSE sources, thinking everybody is an noob.
Thread got closed of course, as those sources where indeed false
@justmpm , @GermainZ You guys have been doing an great job, cleaning all the threads
THANKS !
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All I am saying is, don't make such big allegations without any proof!!
Everybody in this forum respects Varun Chitre.
This thread is not intended to disrespect Varun or anybody else, this thread is here to get an UPDATE on the Investigations status on Andiroxu's kernel! It has been over a month since he has posted his source code on github and still NO ONE has checked or concluded that the source code is copied or anything., If you or anybody else here is saying we should not even ask about the status, then YOU are going against the OPEN SOURCE policy!
For your kind information, Andiroxu is the one whose kernel make Android 4.2 POSSIBLE for our device.! So ofcourse we will respect and support him!
superdragonpt said:
I will only say this.
Give proper credits, and you will have my respect
yeah im talking to you @andiroxu
There is no way you could compile that kernel, without varun.chitre15 commits, and patches.
Im not saying you didnt added some work on that Kernel, but saying It's all your work, it's just lying
As for the rest of you guys, this is just an HUGE disrespected of varun's work, im very ofended with this.
The guy that worked so hard for the last couple years for the development of YOUR phone, and this is how you pay him back?
I have reported SO MANY threads, where people where posting links to ""andiroxu's"" Kernel.
andiroxu on his thread, posted FALSE sources, thinking everybody is an noob.
Thread got closed of course, as those sources where indeed false
@justmpm , @GermainZ You guys have been doing an great job, cleaning all the threads
THANKS !
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Bro first don't it wrong....
but this matter (about copying) is between varun bro and andiroxu bro....
why not you leave this to them.. because I saw your all your comment you only support varun bro..
andiroxu bro uploaded his new source and doesn't get any reply back from mod...
that why this thread is created and you start about copying...
so it will be great if we left this to both of them...
superdragonpt said:
I will only say this.
Give proper credits, and you will have my respect
yeah im talking to you @andiroxu
There is no way you could compile that kernel, without varun.chitre15 commits, and patches.
Im not saying you didnt added some work on that Kernel, but saying It's all your work, it's just lying
As for the rest of you guys, this is just an HUGE disrespected of varun's work, im very i with this.
The guy that worked so hard for the last couple years for the development of YOUR phone, and this is how you pay him back?
I have reported SO MANY threads, where people where posting links to ""andiroxu's"" Kernel.
andiroxu on his thread, posted FALSE sources, thinking everybody is an noob.
Thread got closed of course, as those sources where indeed false
@justmpm , @GermainZ You guys have been doing an great job, cleaning all the threads
THANKS !
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Bro, let's take it as a neutral person.
I have used kernel by varun and andiroxu both.
But when I see a single post of yours anywhere on the A110 thread its completely against andiroxu, completely against. Is this fair?
If someone call you cheater how does this feel? Baseless allegations?
How cheap is this to call someone with bad words? And why to take it personal, how can you call him cheater?
It's embarrassing bro, please.
Non a single person disrespect varun here, non have even quoted his post on the kernel thread.
We are graceful to him and whenever he post something on our community, everyone feels blessed.
You always take side of varun sir and disrespect andiroxu, but why?
He is a human, working same as varun for us.
I didn't wanted to post any reply against you but I have seen your posts earlier which included same content.
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I think it is time for this thread to be closed. I don't think it is serving the purpose of the OP and some things have been said that are unfair to everyone.
I left this thread open, not so that people can point the finger of blame at each other, but to try and make it clear that this hasn't been forgotten or is being swept under the rug.
I also wanted to try and make you guys understand why ANY kernel with out GPL compliant source can not be linked, supported, talked about etc. This doesn't mean that the kernel developer is a bad guy, it is just the way that it has to be because of xda's rules on sharing and following the GPL.
Please, if you have any more issues or concerns, feel free to PM me and I will answer them as best I can.
Thanks!
justmpm
khan_frd2002 said:
Bro first don't it wrong....
but this matter (about copying) is between varun bro and andiroxu bro....
why not you leave this to them.. because I saw your all your comment you only support varun bro..
andiroxu bro uploaded his new source and doesn't get any reply back from mod...
that why this thread is created and you start about copying...
so it will be great if we left this to both of them...
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What about the question asked here? Why not to reply anything openly now because everything is open now?
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It is pretty funny that mods cant even investigate a single kernel in more then a month duration.lol....
I'm sorry but I can not comment on the state of the investigation and neither can GermainZ.
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If you cant even give us status then you guys must NOT lock the thread. Just some blah blah blah and diverting answer of our questions to some other crap.
First I am not here opposing anyone.
I have due respect for @andiroxu for making his awesome kernels, @varunchitre.15 for all his works and @justmpm for being so supportive and friendly :thumbup:
NOW COMING TO MY VIEWS REGARDING THIS DISCUSSION.
I am still thinking that was andiroxu sources really improper? Well I really cannot comment on this......
BUT if yes than why there is no update in his thread by @GermainZ that investigation is over and thread and thread closed due to improper sources and non-GPL complaint kernel.
(THOUGH I DONT THINK THIS.)
Also I think that the thread was made just to know status of investigation and by no means target at any allegations or stating who is right @superdragonpt. Also pls respect everyone. Atleast I think that results of investigation is not out yet. So pls....
And @justmpm....just a little thing ....------>(not asking about results of investigation)BUT IN WHOLE THREAD YOU SAID THAT I CANNOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE STATE OF INVESTIGATION AND NEITHER GERMAINZ CAN.
I hope atleast we could get the status.
And if status is not possible than pls any reason behind even hiding the state of investigation?
Also andiroxu said that he have uploaded the new sources. Pls atleast (if possible) a little hint about status. Also andiroxu said that even he didn't received ant reply after the new sources. Atleast if possible pls reply him.
Also I request everyone to be polite... @UnNaMeD__ just making sarcastic remark on maderators investigation is not at all grceful.
@justmpm brother....pls don't close this thread. It is just a simpe question thread(though related to some deep matters.) And is fully supporting OP too.
******b/w andiroxu brother.....really no one (except one or two) calls you cheater. Instead we all have a due reapect for you. Also everyone always praises and appreciates your works.*******
Also I am against everyone who disrespect anyone....you are at xda and not at fb. So pls give respect to everyone and everyone or else you are going straightway against xda rules.
Gentlemen...
There is a reason why the whole situation takes so much time. The kernel development is covered under GNU GPL v2 license. It means that all necessary information should be available to every person interesting in compiling a kernel.
For example the informations about toolchain, defconfig etc. etc. The last thing is that the source is pushed as a one big commit, which makes things incredibly hard to investigate. It's like finding a needle in haystack. If you want an update, so be it. Our requirements were presented to andiroxu and we gave him plenty of time to fix his repositories. The perfect solution would be merging kernel sources from kernel.org with those available for you, but I understand that it's not an easy process but doable nonetheless.
I'm not going to attack anyone, but derailing this thread to talk issues between two developers is wrong and won't be tolerated. We are not My Little Pony and don't have to love each other, but respect to other's work was a ground on which XDA was built. I understand that varun can be upset and despite the fact that releasing a kernel = accepting the GPL license = allowing everybody to use every piece of code, credits should be given. It's not hard to type 2 lines of text and thank someone. Not to mention that it's one of XDA rules.
About non compliant kernel being warez. Technically you don't have to pay for kernel, but violating the GPL license means that kernel is illegal and can't be shared. Like warez, hence the comparison.
We need the evidence and unless we get it, the thread will remain closed.
Do not post "Thank you" type responses.[SIZE=+3]ALL ROMS EVER (Intro to be added)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2][INDEX][/SIZE]
[SIZE=+2]Helpful Information[/SIZE][SIZE=+1]Welcome, this thread has been created to encompass everything you may need for your android device. Please only post in this thread with feedback on how to improve this document. Do not post "Thank you" type responses. If you have additional questions or require more help, try to find an existing thread, or create your own thread in the Q&A forum. Do not use this as a general help thread.
Since most ROMs are MM now I will split ROMs in this thread into 2 sections, MM and EOL.
This thread probably isn't going to help anyone. If it does help you, however, please tell me the usage in a post!
Please tell me if I made any mistakes in the categorization, and add on new ROMs as they come out/those which I forgotten to add.
Lastly, Stock-Based ROMs will not be added unless it is being ported to other devices eg. Xperia ROM ported to XOSP to other devices[/SIZE]Click on a Link below for More Info
MM ROMs
Toolchains
EOL ROMs
Kernels
Useful links any general index should have
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65849943&postcount=34
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If you would like to create an [INDEX] please Click Here.
A special thanks to everyone who contributed to the production of this INDEX
Please note: This is and will be, an ongoing WIP
MM ROMs
*Mainly* CM-Based:
CyanogenMod
Temasek's CM
PAC ROM (And their cute but old website copyrighted 2014)
AICP
BeanStalk ROM
BlissPop ROM
AOKP
Resurrection Remix
XOSP
crDroid
CyanPop
OctOS
Marsh
MoKee
LiquidSmooth (+Slim base)
FlexOS (This is relatively obsolete as compared to Team Flex's AOSP-based Flayr OS)
OwnRom
TeslaOS (Not to be confused with Tesla by GZR)
*Mainly* AOSP/CAF-Based:
Dirty Unicorns (And CAF)
Pure Nexus
Cyanide L MM (Apparently it isn't Cyanide M) (Un-merged with Fusion from VrToxin)
OmniROM
Tesla by GZR
Slim
YAOSP
SlimYAOSP (Repo Init THIS first)
Nameless ROM
Broken ROM
Chroma ROM
MoKee
UberMallow (Previously OptiPop)
CandySix
FlayrOS
Exodus ROM (Quite confused as to which manifest to link to)
Validus by GZR
TipsyOS
OrionOS
Screw'D AOSP
AOSiP
ZephyrOS
BenzoRom
Beltz Rom (AOSP with DUI)
Cardinal AOSP
Citrus CAF
Evervolv
CopperHead OS
Toxic OS
All Purenexus and Slim mods from the guys at http://forum.xda-developers.com/slimroms/general/rom-builders-collective-t2861778
Toolchains
Guide for using below TC
UberTC (And Github) (For Pre-Built TC refer to BitBucket)
Linaro
SaberMod (Pre-Built TC at their website)
Hyper Toolchains
DragonTC
Christopher83's custom TC builds
Archi's Toolchains (Change the branches to change TC)
EOL stuff
VrToxin (Apparently some internal strife)
Fusion (Merged with Cyanide to VrToxin, then VrToxin died)
Archidroid/Archikernel (Should be getting a revive soon since Archi got an OP2)
Perseus Kernel (IDK why it died, too long ago)
Minimal OS (IDK why it died. Wanted to build this in particular because LP Minimal is awesome but suddenly github activity stopped)
Paranoid Android (RIP will miss you guys. They got "bought over" by OnePlus to dev OxygenOS)
F-AOSP (IDK why it died.)
Yank Kernel (I think he just gave up or something)
[*]80% of Dirty Unicorn (Went over to some Russian company) (Hi Mazda/Alex Cruz)
Euphoria OS
RadonX
Nexus Experience
Custom Kernels
AK Kernel
Lightning Kernel
Agni kernel
Arter97's Kernels
Boeffla Kernel
Franco Kernel
ElementalX
Phasma Kernel
Kylo Kernel (Same as above...???)
Some random modded kernels mostly in Nexus forums I didn't bother to add
RIP people.
A filler and awareness post.
See you in heaven. I know you are in a better place now.
TonyStark
FlashVetrin
Please add on. So far I only know of those two ^^
Garbage Link Collector
Another Link Collector (But not structured so Garbagely)
A ROM Building Guide for you to build ANY ROM on this list
XDA New User Guide
How to shake off "n00b" status
How to get Moderator's attention (Don't waste their time unnecessarily though )
Requests to Mods (All users welcome)
Logcat (MEOW)
Commonly used acronyms on XDA
How to become RC/RT
Signature Code Sharing
Archi's Optimisations (And for MM)
Index Project
Ask Away Project
Anti-Piracy/ContentGuard
NEED-TO-READ 1
NEED-TO-READ 2
Special thanks to:
@Trafalgar Square
@sd_shadow
@kuzibri
@zelendel
And everyone else at the Index Thread!!
Temporary to-do:
CarbonROM
others?
limjh16 said:
Last one
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I would add descriptions and differences between rom types
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_firmware
http://android.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Custom_ROMs
http://lifehacker.com/5915093/five-best-android-roms
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CM
AOSP
Others
Kernels
Dead ROM/Kernels
Useful links any general index should have
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Hi,
sofar, so good. Would it be an idea to also add an item which devices are supported and which not? I would remove the item "Dead ROM/Kernels", they are of no use for your thread and may cause confusion.
kindest regards,kuzibri
Here is a big list of porting and compiling rom guides
[Guides][Updated] All Guides @ One Place By Hpsgill by Hpsgill
kuzibri said:
Hi,
sofar, so good. Would it be an idea to also add an item which devices are supported and which not? I would remove the item "Dead ROM/Kernels", they are of no use for your thread and may cause confusion.
kindest regards,kuzibri
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That item is meant for stuff like AOKP where its dead, but for those who want kitkat then they can refer.
sd_shadow said:
Here is a big list of porting and compiling rom guides
[Guides][Updated] All Guides @ One Place By Hpsgill by Hpsgill
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Will have a look and add to useful links section.
This thread is gonna take really long to get updated I am very busy with school haha...
limjh16 said:
This thread is gonna take really long to get updated I am very busy with school haha...
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Why did you choose to start such a thread, which is very time consuming, when you are so busy with school? If I were you, I would restrict your available time to make an index thread of your own devices (i9305 or SGS3-LTE). I can understand your wish of creating the thread that's in your mind, but you do need/have the time to create and maintain it, which is IMHO almost impossible when you are also at school. If you still want to create this ALL ROM EVER thread, ask help from other members to help you, cause you cannot do it on your own. Nevertheless, if you still want to continue with this ALL ROM Ever thread, I'm willing to help you where ever I can. :good:
kindest regards, kuzibri
kuzibri said:
Why did you choose to start such a thread, which is very time consuming, when you are so busy with school? If I were you, I would restrict your available time to make an index thread of your own devices (i9305 or SGS3-LTE). I can understand your wish of creating the thread that's in your mind, but you do need/have the time to create and maintain it, which is IMHO almost impossible when you are also at school. If you still want to create this ALL ROM EVER thread, ask help from other members to help you, cause you cannot do it on your own. Nevertheless, if you still want to continue with this ALL ROM Ever thread, I'm willing to help you where ever I can. :good:
kindest regards, kuzibri
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I didn't expect my first term of school to be so hectic, I created this before my term started. It's alright, I'll just leave this here. Not like anyone except you and sd_shadow comes here... but I'll try to update once a week.
To be honest most won't bother as not all roms are available for all devices.
Also don't put any fair in what someone else thinks of a rom. Their opinion almost never really matters.
zelendel said:
To be honest most won't bother as not all roms are available for all devices.
Also don't put any fair in what someone else thinks of a rom. Their opinion almost never really matters.
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Hmm true... But I created mostly for me cuz I was just going around xda finding a ROM to build so I thought this thread would help.
limjh16 said:
Hmm true... But I created mostly for me cuz I was just going around xda finding a ROM to build so I thought this thread would help.
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No sure where it would help but ok. Going around building roms from other groups will not last long. More and more teams are closing their source and not letting others use it.
So if your worried about building then I would start my own project and start from scratch with it. Aosp not CM
zelendel said:
No sure where it would help but ok. Going around building roms from other groups will not last long. More and more teams are closing their source and not letting others use it.
So if your worried about building then I would start my own project and start from scratch with it. Aosp not CM
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Well I just started learning how to build so idk how to start off my own ROM project... But I am interested...... Teach me please...?
limjh16 said:
I didn't expect my first term of school to be so hectic, I created this before my term started. It's alright, I'll just leave this here. Not like anyone except you and sd_shadow comes here... but I'll try to update once a week.
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Hi,
it's no problem that it will take longer that you thought initially. I agree with @zelendel regarding this: "So if your worried about building then I would start my own project and start from scratch with it. Aosp not CM" Cyogen Mod is a world on it's own and accepted as a fully functional OS. Regarding the fact that only sd_shadow and I, besides zelendel now, only visit your thread, is logical because it's a WIP.
kindest regards, kuzibri
Introduction
Hello everyone, this is a thread to introduce both users and kernel developers to the concept of linux-stable as well as give developers some tips and a tree to either merge into their own, use as a base, or just as a reference. Feel free to ask questions and enjoy!
What is it?
linux-stable is, as the name implies, the stable branch of the Linux kernel, the base of Android. The phone could not run without the Linux kernel (at least not without reworking a lot of stuff). The Android kernels are based on the longterm stable trees:
Longterm
There are usually several "longterm maintenance" kernel releases provided for the purposes of backporting bugfixes for older kernel trees. Only important bugfixes are applied to such kernels and they don't usually see very frequent releases, especially for older trees.
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Source: https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html
All Linux development happens on the master branch, which is governed by Linus Torvalds. When issues are discovered there, the fixes are applied then backported to these various stable trees for consumption. It is not uncommon for a fix to need to go back a few years.
There is a LOT more information available in the notes repo in the android-linux-stable organization if you care to learn more in-depth: https://github.com/android-linux-stable/notes
What does this mean for me?
If you are a developer, this means you should be merging these changes into your own tree. These are vetted, stable fixes to real world problems and they are being handed out for free. It does not take long to get up to date (as you can just merge this tree directly into your own or do it yourself using the tree as a reference) and once you are up to date, there is usually a release once every two weeks, give or take. I provide a rebuttal to a lot of various complaints here. If you still feel like there is a good reason not to do this, please let me know, I'll be happy to try and debate on it!
If you are a user, it means that you should be looking for and using kernels that have these fixes, as it shows the developers care for your security and stability. The current version for this device is either 3.18.66 (OxygenOS) or 3.18.71 (LineageOS and most likely all other custom ROMs) and the current version upstream is 3.18.124 so all you need to do is go into Settings > About phone and look at the kernel version to know if you are up to date.
How do I use?
If you are a developer, the reference tree is located in the android-linux-stable organization: https://github.com/android-linux-stable/op3
There are three branches: one for OxygenOS stable, one for OxygenOS beta, and one for Lineage 15.1.
This can either be merged into your existing kernel tree if you have one or be used as a fresh base. You do not need my permission to use it nor do you need to give me credit (although it would be appreciated).
If you are a user, use a kernel that has the changes added in!
Getting notified about updates
There are a few ways to get notified of linux-stable updates:
The linux-kernel-announce mailing list: http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-kernel-announce
The android-linux-stable Telegram channel: https://t.me/alsupdates
Subscribe to this thread
Follow me on Google+ or Twitter
Getting help
If you have any issues with getting these changes into your tree or want to ask a question, there are a few different ways to do it:
Post in this thread
Join the linux-stable support chat on Telegram: https://t.me/joinchat/C1UAJ1EMSX31PCFdwLnOSg
File an issue either in the android-linux-stable notes repo or the android-linux-stable repo for this device
When requesting help, please give some solid details as to what you are struggling with, as I am happy to provide assistant and clarity but not to do something for you (unless I screwed up).
hmm this helps a lot bro. Thanks for opening this thread. So, here comes my first question - how can we make a kernal compatible with most of the Oreo roms which we have at present like nos, Z, Pixel, Aosip or omni or others as they all use different.
mady51 said:
hmm this helps a lot bro. Thanks for opening this thread. So, here comes my first question - how can we make a kernal compatible with most of the Oreo roms which we have at present like nos, Z, Pixel, Aosip or omni or others as they all use different.
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Well that's not exactly a topic for this thread but it depends on what makes them different. Some things can co-exist, others can't. I know that's a generic response but I don't really have anything more descriptive I can give.
3.18.93 has been merged in.
3.18.94 has been merged in (conflict notes).
3.18.95 has been merged in.
The OP has been updated, including some more information for users as well as some more ways of getting help and notified of updates! Enjoy
v3.18.96
https://github.com/nvertigo/android_kernel_oneplus_msm8996/tree/linux-stable/merge-15.1
This is current lineageos/lineage-15.1 merged with https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tag/?h=v3.18.96.
3.18.96 has been merged in.
nathanchance said:
3.18.96 has been merged in.
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Sir! it's a flashable kernel for 1+3T?
acultr said:
Sir! it's a flashable kernel for 1+3T?
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Umm.. no. Might wanna read a bit more before asking. It's just the kernel sources.
acultr said:
Sir! it's a flashable kernel for 1+3T?
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No, it's for peoples who want build upstreamed kernel, like sources to build.
3.18.97 has been merged in.
3.18.98 has been merged in.
My apologies to the custom ROM users for breaking MTP and adb many thanks to @martinusbe and @nvertigo67 for reporting the issue to me and helping me fix it! The change has been pushed, please pull to update!
https://github.com/android-linux-stable/op3/commit/180f737979e7f81b7e650fbff11dcc437d358142
nathanchance said:
My apologies to the custom ROM users for breaking MTP and adb many thanks to @martinusbe and @nvertigo67 for reporting the issue to me and helping me fix it! The change has been pushed, please pull to update!
https://github.com/android-linux-stable/op3/commit/180f737979e7f81b7e650fbff11dcc437d358142
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No reason to apologies. Thanx to you and @martinusbe for fixing this. Without you I would still search in ffs commits...
nathanchance said:
My apologies to the custom ROM users for breaking MTP and adb many thanks to @martinusbe and @nvertigo67 for reporting the issue to me and helping me fix it! The change has been pushed, please pull to update!
https://github.com/android-linux-stable/op3/commit/180f737979e7f81b7e650fbff11dcc437d358142
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Yay its fixed. I'm sure people against upstreaming will use this as an argument to say upstreaming is bad. I'm not a dev so I really have no idea what's right. In my book, higher version = good lol xD
knpk13 said:
Yay its fixed. I'm sure people against upstreaming will use this as an argument to say upstreaming is bad. I'm not a dev so I really have no idea what's right. In my book, higher version = good lol xD
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Well it wasn't stable that broke this, it was a CAF merge I still should have dug deeper into the conflict, I definitely rushed it. I don't do that with the stable merges.
3.18.99 has been merged in.
3.18.100 has been merged in.
Mi 8/Mi 8 Explorer Edition/Poco F1 Same Branch
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/dipper-o-oss
najjurocks619 said:
Mi 8/Mi 8 Explorer Edition/Poco F1 Same Branch
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/dipper-o-oss
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Blimey! That's a very good sign!
Hopefully they're intact and usable
thesoupthief said:
Blimey! That's a very good sign!
Hopefully they're intact and usable
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Indeed, Hoping for great future and development for this device, The cheapest SD 845 yet.
isnt this a security lapse
prabaharanaece said:
isnt this a security lapse
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Lol are you joking? Xiaomi have themselves released the kernel sources. How does that make it a security lapse when they themselves announced this during the phone launch?
Great news! Hope to see LineageOS soon for this phone.
kishore1998 said:
Lol are you joking? Xiaomi have themselves released the kernel sources. How does that make it a security lapse when they themselves announced this during the phone launch?
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It is rather a question from me, I know mi released the codes but question is can it be used by someone for hacking this phone. I guess it would be more easier for the hackers now.
prabaharanaece said:
It is rather a question from me, I know mi released the codes but question is can it be used by someone for hacking this phone. I guess it would be more easier for the hackers now.
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POCO F1 is not the only phone with it's kernel source released. You will find kernel sources released for many phones by different brands (Sony, Samsung, LG, OnePlus and so many more). The purpose of releasing the source is to accommodate custom ROM and Kernel development by developer community (like XDA) and find out vulnerability (if any) in the process. Any vulnerability found is usually patched in updates. Yes the source can be used to compile a kernel or ROM with malicious code or an app which'd try to exploit the vulnerability but it will only affect those who'd install any such app/kernel/ROM. Now any flashaholic you'd meet will tell you how they'd only install apps from trusted sources and flash ROMs/Kernels available on XDA etc. In nutshell, I don't think trying to hack a phone using kernel source is worth it as it targets very limited people who are cautious enough on what to install on their phones making it more difficult to hack. Any developer can enlighten you more on the issue as I might be totally wrong on the issue too.
P.S. It's because of such source code releases that community like XDA is thriving.
prabaharanaece said:
isnt this a security lapse
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All linux based kernels are open source
Also it is mandatory for OEMs to release kernel sources per GPL license rules.
I got my phone today, waiting for some awesome development..
Thank you everyone for comments :good:. I got my phone today as well
Will only buy it if any rom(i wish for Omni) is built from sources(not ported rom) and officially supports Treble <3
Otherwise simply useless phone for me :X
Would suggest the same for others too
xuser_ said:
Will only buy it if any rom(i wish for Omni) is built from sources(not ported rom) and officially supports Treble <3
Otherwise simply useless phone for me :X
Would suggest the same for others too
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All roms are build from aosp and other sources, this is not 2012 where ported roms exists here. What are you talking about? Also, the phone is launched with 8.1 so it officially supports treble out of the box. You high or what?
Btw: good to see early release of kernel source but on the other hand, the unlocking of bootloader showing me 30 days (720hours). How will I live for 30 days using MIUI?